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The government is officially shut down
as Republicans and Democrats cannot
agree on how to move forward. Trump
calls for the military to be used
domestically. Trump has also though put
forward a peace plan for Gaza. We'll see
how that goes. And Sora 2 has been
released and is absolutely melting the
brains of anyone paying attention to the
rate of improvement of AI. This one has
to be seen to be believed. Let's get
into the government shutdown. There's
going to be a whole lot of debate and
drama over exactly what is happening.
Why are we shutting this down right now?
Maxine Waters, uh, in her own words,
let's hear what she has to say, hit it.
>> Do Democrats want to prioritize the
healthcare of illegal aliens over a
government shutdown? Because if the
government does shut down,
>> Americans,
stop it right there. We're not
prioritizing.
what we're doing is saying simply we
want to keep the government open and we
want to work with the Republicans and
have a
>> Okay, so just setting the stage uh and I
will certainly let Maxine finish uh her
own statements here, but it's important
to understand that the resolution that
was being put forward by the Republicans
is what they're calling a clean
resolution. Meaning it's not there's no
change in any of the funding. It's the
funding that we have now. We're trying
to get ourselves till the 21st of
November, I believe, roughly there
within a couple days of that. Certainly,
that will give us more time to negotiate
all of the specifics of health care and
other topics. But we're not trying to
put anything in. We're not trying to
hijack the system. We're not trying to
force something into this. We just want
a continuing resolution that's going to
buy us the time to do the negotiations.
This was done 13 times when Biden was in
office. So, this is not uncommon at all.
Now, often times people will try to
shove something into the continuing
resolution, which is essentially what
the Democrats are trying to do now.
They're trying to say, "Nope, we're not
going to give you uh any extension
unless you include these things." And
the Democrats are spinning it, saying,
"Okay, the real problem that's happening
right now is that they didn't consult us
on this." But why should they need to
consult you to get a continuing
resolution that doesn't make any changes
that just says, "Hey, status quo until
we get ourselves the period that we're
going to need to negotiate this." Well,
now all of this is kabuki. All of this
is theater on both sides of the aisle.
Make no mistake about that. Uh,
everybody knew that this was coming up.
We had plenty of time to negotiate, but
nonetheless, this is a very typical
thing. Again, happened 13 times during
the Biden administration where they
requested and received a continuing
resolution. Uh, and so
this is like super common. It should be
very straightforward. And so for them to
act like this is a politics is madness.
All right, back to Maxine
>> agreement to keep this government open
and healthcare is at the top of our
agenda.
>> But are Democrats demanding healthc care
for illegal aliens?
>> That's right.
>> Democrats are demanding health care for
everybody.
We want to save lives. Well, she said
the quiet part out loud. She's in a
second here. She's going to not try to
backtrack it at all, but she's going to
go after the reporter for basically
continuing to ask a divisive question.
And fair enough, uh, this woman has an
agenda. She is there specifically to get
Maxine Waters to admit what she just
admitted, which is that this is about
getting healthc care for everybody. Uh,
there's a clip from 2019. In fact, we'll
we'll finish this and I'm going to play
a clip from 2019, which is uh pretty
shocking. All right, regarding this
exact topic, but let's let's let Maxine
Waters finish her statement about who we
want healthcare for.
>> Healthcare is available to those who
would die, but having the help of their
government.
>> So, you're good with a government
shutdown, even if it means giving
healthcare to people who aren't American
citizens?
>> Well, you can't. That's what you're
pushing on. What you're trying to do is
you're standing here and you're trying
to make me say that somehow we're going
to put non-citizens over Americans. Quit
it. Look, I'm sure the Republicans in
their desperate desire to play political
theater. Would love to hear anybody on
the Democratic side say that we're going
to put um illegal aliens above people
that are actual citizens. I don't think
I don't think that they necessarily even
want that. You don't have to go that far
for this to be something that is deeply
problematic to a nation that has buried
its young under a mountain of debt that
has made uh political violence as a
result of economic problems. Mark my
words, all of this goes back to the
economy. It never feels like political
violence when it's happening. But this
is why you can look at a spreadsheet of
what's going on in America and go, "Oh,
I bet there's political violence right
now." Okay? You don't have to look any
farther than that. Humans have a finite
number of personality traits. And this
is why history rhymes. And when you put
people in a position where they are
economically uncertain, where they have
all of this anxiety, where you as a
government are stealing their purchasing
power through inflation, you are going
to end up in a situation like this. And
so you don't have to put illegal aliens
above the American people to say we want
to create a bigger problem by saying we
want you to spend extra money, which is
what they want them to do. I believe the
number is something like an increase in
$1.5 trillion dollar.
This is also madness. Now, I don't want
to overly point fingers at the
Democrats. They're the problem in this
specific moment. Both sides are absolute
lunatics when it comes to the economy
and how much we're spending money. Let's
be very clear about that. The big
beautiful bill was an atrocity. That
puts us in an even worse position. We
are now in a situation where we have a
gun to our head and it's grow baby grow.
And if you don't grow, you are in such
catastrophic uh trouble that it is it is
terrifying to think how we're going to
back our way out of this. And the honest
answer is that I don't know that we are
in time to catch it. I fear that the
violence that we're seeing now is going
to continue to ratchet up. You are
almost certainly going to elect a
socialist uh mayor of New York City.
that socialist mayor of New York City is
almost certainly, excuse me, the real
face ideologically anyway, even if he's
not going to be the person of the um
energy in the Democratic party that
things are pushing that way. Uh and
that's going to make things worse. It's
going to sound good and make things
worse. And so, you're going to get this
flywheel that I I just don't know that
we're going to be able to interrupt.
This is so wild. Uh so again, you don't
need the problem to be that we're
putting illegal immigrants ahead of
American citizens. Simply including them
means that we are going to have to spend
more money. Entitlements are the
problem. Entitlements are where we're
spending the money. And if we don't
solve for entitlements, we're really
going to be in trouble. Okay? If they're
trying to shuck and jive, they're trying
to hide from the fact that this is what
they want. With every passing day, I
become more convinced that the real
problem is that what they are trying to
do is import voters. Uh it would
certainly make a lot of sense. So, with
that in mind, let's I'm going to let her
go. She's going to chastise her for a
second and then I want to play the clip
from 2019
uh where you've got people running for I
believe it's uh running for the uh
primary the Democratic primary for the
2020 election and they are asked a
question about whether illegal
immigrants should be covered uh with
healthcare and you will see for
yourselves what all of the candidates
said but let's let Maxine finish
journalism. We don't need. You are
divisive. No, you're not. You're being
divisive. No, please don't. You don't
need to ask that question. You're just
trying to get controversy here. You're
not going to get it from me. We
>> It's too late. It's too late. We already
got what we needed. Okay, you can pause
that. Now, let us go to
>> raise your hand if your government plan
would provide coverage for undocumented
immigrants.
Okay, for everybody watching at home,
every single hand uh was raised. So,
every candidate in the Democratic
debate, again, this is from 2019, but
every hand in the Democratic debate went
up. So, everybody that was going for, I
believe this is for president, um said,
"Yeah, my plan for healthcare would
include undocumented immigrants."
And listen, from just from a budgetary
standpoint, it is a non-starter. You are
in a position where you are burying the
young. I you don't have to care about
anybody other than the young. You are
burying the young
under a mountain of debt. You are making
it so that you have to print money to
meet the demands of that debt. And that
is one of the reasons why housing has
become so unaffordable.
And if you want to like oversimplify
this down to just what really matters,
as long as housing is inaccessible to
young people, there's no way for them to
escape the horrifying effects of
inflation. And if you keep adding to the
problem, no matter how big your heart
is, no matter even if I'm wrong and
they're not doing this to import voters
and they just want to be kind and
generous, you can't keep raising the
budget. You can't do it. You are making
matters worse. You you might get elected
but you are going to tear the country
apart because the country is based on a
set of physics economic physics that
lead to psychological physics that cause
every country that has ever existed with
the exception of Japan that goes over
130% debt to GDP ratio for any extended
length of time and I'm talking like 18
months. It tears itself apart via civil
war or revolution. Okay? It's not even
that it weakens itself and gets attacked
from the outside. It tears itself apart
from within. So there is no escaping
this trend and
people are largely ignorant to that and
so they keep pushing for these things.
Politicians only make sense if you map
them according to one simple idea. I'm
going to do and say whatever I need to
do and say in order to get reelected.
When you take them like that, then all
of a sudden all of their actions make
sense. But that is precisely what is
happening right now. The government is
shut down because the Democrats want
for everybody healthcare and they want
the taxpayers to pay for it. It's going
to cost I believe the estimate is 1.5
trillion extra dollars for and it may
not only be healthcare that they're
looking for, but that is uh what I've
seen in all the reporting that I've come
across. 1.5 trillion dollars extra
just for just to get a continuing
resolution. If people have things that
they think that they can actually get
pushed through the system that balance
the budget and they want to cut things
so that we can give healthcare for all,
great. Now, I would say the place to
focus on health care is to actually
lower the cost because we already spend
per person more than any country in the
industrialized world. So that's a
problem uh because we have terrible
outcomes. So yeah, I would say getting
the setup right there so that we can
negotiate well. Trump is certainly
taking some steps in that direction uh
with what he's doing. In fact, do we
have the Fizer uh commercial? Not
commercial. Do we have the clip Fiser
clip where uh Trump basically tells
Fizer you guys are going to give us most
favorite nations? Yes, we do. So it is
right there in row 12. So this is where
I think we need to be getting to. We
need to be negotiating drug prices. We
need to be getting our the way that we
deal with health care to stop being
ridiculous because the prices that we
pay for what we get are absolutely
absurd. All right, hit it.
>> Today, I'm thrilled to announce that one
of the world's largest pharmaceutical
manufacturers and one of the best
anywhere in the world, FISA, has agreed
to offer countless prescription
medications at major discounts in the
United States. is a result of the most
favored nation drug pricing order
>> that we established earlier this year.
As you know, uh the United States is
paying sometimes 10 times more than
other countries for drugs. And a lot of
excuses were made for that, but went on
for many years, many many years,
decades, and it's not going on any
longer. We're going to be paying the
lowest price now. We're going to be uh
paying whatever the lowest prices,
favored nations. This will save American
taxpayers and consumers hundreds of
millions of dollars.
>> All right. So if if we can approach the
health care system from that
perspective, I mean I I am a little
shocked at how little noise there has
been about the fact that America has
been asked to pay for the development of
drugs uh that are then sold worldwide at
these incredibly cheap rates. but
Americans because of the way that we've
structured our negotiating abilities
with the uh drug companies uh is wild.
So I'm glad to see that Trump is making
moves in that direction. I think that
there is going to be a lot more that we
are going to have to do there if we
really want to be successful. But
getting everybody to focus on the real
issue of this isn't about um tax more
tax more tax more benefits to more
people. This is about balance the
budget. Balance the budget. This is
trade-offs. This is the world that
people don't want to live in. They don't
want to live in a world where you have
to make tradeoffs. And the reality is
there's no utopia. There's only
trade-offs. There is only we do this
thing, but it has this consequence. We
do this thing and it has this
consequence. And I want to see people
debate the consequences. What are these
things over here that are the knock-on
effects of the policies, the second and
third order consequences
that we need to address if we want to
make all of this work? And I'm telling
you like there are a simple set of
things that we can know that we can just
look at and go we have to improve that
thing.
>> You said this is an economic problem
through and through.
>> What if we approached it from a first
principles perspective? Let's just blow
up the government start all over. Do you
think there is a system in which and I'm
not talking about capitalism socialism.
I'm talking about economic budgeting
where we can afford health care in a
right way. We can make sure education is
available to all citizens and we can
protect our borders both from domestic
um intrusion like uh immigration and
international like polit like
international military action. Do you
think if we started all over and you can
reset up the the government budget for
2028, would we be able to just say,
okay, maybe social security got to
leave. That's cool. Maybe we can't do um
US aid anymore. We got to pull out all
our uh a couple close a couple bases in
West Africa. Okay, cool. But do you
think the government can actually first
principles pay for healthare allow our
citizens to be educated and set up in a
way that the economic pressure isn't
there anymore?
>> You've got whatever $4.7 trillion that
you bring in in tax.
>> So yeah, it healthcare is less than
that, but you would have to cut a lot of
things in order to pay for it,
especially if you're trying to make it
bigger by including illegal immigrants
also. So yes, you can balance a budget.
It will come with a lot of pain. It is
not politically feasible right now.
>> So, I'm certainly hyper aware of that.
>> It's 100% the re-election game. We're
not even
>> 100% the re-election. But the thing that
I will say needs to be in this
discussion is what happens when you
create incentives for illegal immigrants
to come into the country. What do people
think will happen? They will come into
the country. They will find a way. So
that's where I'm like, hold on. What are
you doing? Like your own party, whatever
10 years ago was like, uh, we absolutely
cannot allow illegal immigrants in here.
Uh, they will come and defraud the
government. They will find ways to get
healthcare and so we got to keep them
out. Now they're saying open borders and
by the way, give everybody free
healthcare. This is wild.
>> Oh, we're talking about the government
shutdown uh healthcare. Yes, these are
about uh Okay, I have a link for this.
Um this is about um the ACA tax credits,
the Obamacare tax credits. So it was for
people who already are a part of a
Obamacare program that are then getting
tax credits back. It's not just free
elim like we're tripping over free
immigine Waters clip.
>> But even in the Maxine Waters clip, she
said it's healthcare for everybody. It's
not healthcare for illegals. And at the
end of the clip, she says that's this
journalism.
>> She No, no, no. What she said was this.
We want healthcare for everybody. She
did not say we want health care for
every citizen. I really do believe,
especially because we played another
clip from 2019, but from 2019, every
single candidate for uh fighting in the
primary for Democrat president
>> um said that part of their policy would
include free health care for illegal
immigrants. So, dude, I'm telling you,
this is where the left is right now. So,
I'm just saying they can pretend that
that's not what they're about, but as
far as I can tell, that is what they're
about. And I think that they really are
trying to bring people that are likely
to vote for them. We are finding more
and more people that are registered to
vote that are illegal. So, we know that
there's some percentage of illegals that
are coming in and registering to vote.
>> So, it that just seems very logical.
It's there there's this thing and you
were saying it earlier um again when I
was listening on the stream that there
is this pathological bleeding heart
Democrat. We need to do everything for
everybody. So by no means if it's on the
table to get something for a illegal
immigrant. Some people in the Democratic
party don't even think that the term
illegal is a right term. So I'm
conceding on that. I don't think that
they're stouch about the border. That's
not my argument here. Specifically for
what's happening after the big beautiful
bill where they cut a lot of those
Medicare cuts and stuff like that. There
is now something on the table that is
set to expire that wasn't a part of the
big beautiful bill new funding and
that's where Hakeim Jeff and Chuck
Schumer are going on. So this is from
the USA Today. More than 24 million uh
Americans receive subsidies to reduce
out-of- pocket costs for health
insurance obtained through the health
insurance marketplace. This is the
marketplace created by the affordable
care act. A
>> this is all stuff that was dealt with in
the big beautiful bill.
>> It's yes it's to run out. So big
beautiful bill starts next year. So this
right now is what they're arguing about
is saying don't let these credit these
tax credits expire. Don't restart. Um so
it's new legislation and that's the gut.
But if Republicans come out and say they
want us to cut, they want us to refund
health care subsidies, American people
like well it's healthcare subsidies. You
shouldn't. But if we say hey they want
free healthcare for illegals.
Everybody's going to say hell no. I hate
the Democrats. And the Democrats can't
say I'm doing this for Americans.
>> But you're saying there's a political
game that's being played for sure. There
always will be. Yes.
>> But what I'm saying is that they are
asking there was a clean resolution put
forward that says just keep government
funding as it is right now. Buy us
whatever until just before Thanksgiving
and that'll give us plenty of time to
negotiate this.
>> That's what they did before to get us to
this thing here. And on both times the
big beautiful bill passed and all that
all these executive orders. So Democrats
now are saying we can't fold again
because we have no more uh congressional
power. We can't if if Republicans really
bossed up, they can push all the
legislation they want because they have
control of all three houses. So that's
why now the Democrats are saying this is
the last bit of power we have. So we
have to say you can't tread this line.
Otherwise, if they say let's push it
back again, what happens? Trump could do
another series of uh executive orders.
They could just pass a separate
resolution in the House and in the
Senate. It could get the majority of
votes through that way and then
Democrats have no leg to stand on at
all. So, this is a political I'm trying
to grab power, but it's not about I'm
grabbing power for illegal immigrants.
It's this is just a one line. You know,
Obamacare is the one thing that the
Democrats did in the last 20 years. So,
they don't want that to go.
>> Yeah. So, when you put something
forward, it's my understanding, and
please correct me if I'm wrong, it's my
understanding that just to do the
continuing resolution, they are asking
for an additional $1.5 trillion in
spending. That to me is just hard stop.
Nope. Definitely not. Like that is
>> but you called this we we spend a
trillion dollars every 100 days. So to
extend we take on a trillion dollars in
debt every 100 days. This is going to
make that even worse.
>> So I'm saying you that to me is already
a non-starter. So for me Democrat
Republican to stand up and say yeah just
do a quick concession of 1.5 trillion is
absurd. So
>> hey what's what's what's 1.5 among
friends.
>> Oh bro this is getting so crazy
>> 37. What's what's another 1.5? Right.
>> This really is getting crazy. And so,
uh, listen, I have a feeling that what
we're going to see in the wash is that
what is really being fought over is
that obviously the Republicans want to
repeal they would probably repeal all of
Obamacare as much as they can. Yeah.
This is why they're this is the argument
>> for sure. For sure. And now, is that the
right way to deal with healthcare? I
haven't looked closely enough at it to
be honest. I would have to really do a
deep dive into healthcare, how it's set
up. The parts of healthare that I know
and understand are set up so
ridiculously as to maximize the cost of
healthare. Literally
>> to maximize the cost of healthcare. It
is absurd. The only person that I've
seen take any meaningful steps towards
reducing that in the last 20, 30, 40
years is Trump. So, you've got to
>> Mark Cuban with the good eyes.
>> He's not in government.
>> Okay. Mark Cuban is a G for that. And I
think Mark Cuban and I are uh we
disagree on a whole lot of stuff, but
boy oh boy do I love what he's doing
from a reduce the cost of uh healthcare
from the drugs perspective. Absolutely
brilliant using an entrepreneurial take
on it. That is sexy.
>> So shout out to Mark Cuban. That's
amazing. But now Trump is actually
getting Fizer to fold and say we're
going to give you
>> preferred nation pricing. Bro, that is
huge. So, it's clear that Trump isn't
trying to uh like he isn't uninterested
in making healthcare more affordable.
He's approaching it in a way that I
think is way better for the average
American who I'm terrified for because
they can't afford a house, their wages
aren't going up, cost of living is going
up. he's actually doing things that are
going to uh remove the systemic problems
that make this an ongoing issue. And so
my message is, okay, listen, trying to
get something slid into this bill and be
like, we're going to hold a gun to your
head by going offline when during the
Biden administration, we did 13
continuing resolutions just like the one
you guys are asking for. But we're gonna
deny that because this is our last bit
of political leverage. That's gross.
Like this is something big. Yeah, you're
gonna have to be in the dog fight.
You're gonna have to negotiate. You're
going to have to find out where your
point of leverage is. But their only
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enough willingness to push the absolute
limits of what he can get through the
court system and he loves himself some
emergency powers. Uh so yeah, could he
do something as absolutely horrifying as
declaring a uh domestic civil war based
on something going on inside of Chicago
or Seattle or something like that? Would
he try it? Yeah, I think he would try
it. And would he use that to say, "Ah,
we can't have elections at a time of an
emergency." Now, I don't know what the
standing laws are about that. Hopefully,
we've got some sort of protection. But
could I see him try something like that?
Oh, yes. Yes. Very aggressively, I could
see him try that.
>> We should use some of these dangerous
cities as training grounds for our
military. National Guard, but military,
because we're going into Chicago very
soon. That's a big city with an
incompetent governor. Stupid governor.
Stupid. That's horrifying. I hate
everything about that statement. So, I
love law and order. It's beautiful. It
is an absolute must. You are not going
to get anywhere as a country if you do
not have law and order. But boy oh boy
do I absolutely despise
the language of calling American cities
war zones of talking about sending in
the military. Talking about treating
those American cities as training
grounds for the military that you are
saying that your own citizens are
combatants that you can use as the
tutorial level for what exactly? when
you heard Hegsth talk in ways that
seem to be
pointing the military more and more at
domestic targets. And I'm not even
saying there aren't some of those to be
dealt with with cartels and things like
that. There are for sure, but the way
when when we speak, we cannot help but
reveal ourselves. Okay, I get it. I'm a
guy on a microphone. I know I am
revealing the way that my mind works
constantly. I'm just saying these guys
are also revealing how their mind works
and they have such a and I think all
politicians do again I am not uniquely
putting this on the right but
politicians in a populist moment see the
other side as an enemy combatant and
they treat them as such they don't sit
down they're not looking for compromise
they are not looking to understand uh
well I know I'm not 100% right I know
I'm only one piece of this and I know
from an evolutionary standpoint that we
have to have both the left and the
right. And so we have to find ways that
both want to move forward together. We
have to find ways to see each other as
human. We have to find ways to not other
the other side. We have to find ways to
see all of us as Americans. And so
there's an easy way to talk about all
this stuff that wouldn't uh be further
divisive. So hey, let let's role play.
And by the way, welcome Drew. We'll
we'll find out later, boys and girls.
Uh, why Drew? Wait, wait, hold on. We
don't know that he deserves applause.
Now, if he just escaped out of the
prison,
>> it's definitely booze.
>> He He deserves applause. If he overslept
his alarm,
>> it's definitely booze.
>> Yeah. So, okay. Um, I I want to go back
to that though cuz I think right now
government cities,
>> it's now a good idea. When two or three
weeks ago when he put people into DC,
half the country was split. Wait, this
is looking a little bit fascist. We
shouldn't be having people walk around
the cities. But then on the other side,
it was, what are you talking about? The
the crime was cleaned up. 57% reduction.
We should do this in all cities. Yep.
>> And now we're doing it in all cities. Is
this a indication of a slippery slope or
do you think it's more of an indication
of just, hey, it worked back there, so
I'm just going to copy and paste this
all around and fix the problem.
>> If you've got kids in the house, now is
where you're going to want to eject them
out. So it goes like this. Um,
you can have sex with your wife. Well,
and you can have sex with your wife in a
way that will end your marriage
instantly. And so, if you know that your
wife has rules and hey, these are the
things I like. These are the things I
consider disrespectful, and you come in
and you do all the disrespectful [ __ ] I
would expect her to be like, "Fuck you.
Who are you? I don't know you. You're a
monster."
>> Uh, or same act, but done in a totally
different way with different context,
fully respectful, wanting this to be a
shared experience. thinking about the
unity of the two of you, seeing yourself
as a couple. This isn't just about me.
This is about the two of us. And what
I'm saying is right now Trump is
treating it like he can just treat these
states, these cities, however he wants.
It doesn't matter whether it's good for
them. It's just a fits my agenda. And so
to roleplay this in a way where I would
have watched that speech and gone, this
is brilliant. We need more of this. Uh
is hey everybody, we're maximizing the
lethality of our military. This is
great. there's no more um unequal
standards. Everybody's going to be held.
I I'm cheering for all of it.
>> Uh getting into like the all this woke
[ __ ] like we're not here for it
anymore. Like, okay, you didn't need to
go that far. It's like just tell people,
listen, we're in a really tough time. We
are facing an adversary who controls our
military supply chain. We can't have
that. We made policy decisions. You
don't need to name them because that's
just going to inflame people. We made
policy decisions that made a different
trade-off, which was inclusivity. I get
it. It's a beautiful idea. But when it
comes to the military, you just need the
best of the best. You need people that
meet a physical standard that understand
that war is grueling, that it's often a
game of attrition. So, we need people to
be the most hardcore people on the
planet. And so, we're going to focus the
attention, literally saying it in the
way that I'm saying it.
>> And then Trump comes on and he says,
"Listen, uh, law and order is the
cornerstone of any thriving democracy.
It is absolutely critical that people
feel safe in their own homes, in their
own cities. And right now we have cities
where people don't feel safe and secure.
And so we are going to be deploying the
National Guard into these um cities to
help out to make sure that law and order
is maintained. Uh we did this in DC,
things got a lot better. Here are the
stats of the way that things improved.
Listen, we understand this is a delicate
dance and we certainly understand that
we're in a populist moment right now and
that there's going to be disagreements
between the leadership in Chicago or
Seattle and us and it's incumbent upon
us to when we leave the city again that
people felt okay maybe I didn't
originally want them to show up but we
were treated with respect their focus
was very clear on law and order that it
was these are the laws that are on the
books we're going to enforce the laws
that are on the books we're going to do
it in a humane fashion and we're going
to do it by the book, but that's it. And
now, even though I'd be like, listen,
the guy has authoritarian tendencies,
but he never crosses that line.
>> You like you have, in my opinion, you
have a responsibility as a um leader to
set the tone. And
once you understand that people set a
tone that's going to get them reelected,
it all makes sense. He's not setting a
tone based on what he believes. Well,
let me say this. Uh he is not acting in
a way that will function to unite the
country. Now,
I'm willing to grant that he believes
the things that he says. They're just
horribly divisive.
>> So now you're in a situation where it's
like in a populist moment, you are never
going to elect a leader that will talk
the way that I talk. They're not
enticing. I'm not enticing in this
moment as like even I know what I would
need to do if I wanted to like quintuple
the size of the channel over I could
probably do it in 3 months. Uh I would
pick a side and I would just go all in.
And because I'm so verbal, I would be
able to make the best arguments for
either [ __ ] side. I would be able to
go ham and people would be able to come
and watch and I would WWE it would be
huge like emotion. It would be for one
side. It would just be pure chumming the
waters and I would just say this is it.
I would constantly watch my feed. Do
people like what I'm saying? If they
don't like what I'm saying, I steer
towards what they like. I would
literally do something like what they do
on QVC. I would see how many people are
leaving in real time. When I talk in a
certain way, what makes the number go
up? When I talk in another way, what
makes it go down? I would map that so
cleanly. I would know everything that I
needed to say to lead from behind. And
so what I mean by that is I would figure
out what exactly they want to feel and I
would make them feel that. And so they
would feel like I was providing
leadership, but in reality I'm just
watching the numbers. I'm just seeing
where they want me to go and then I go
there.
>> I do it with bigger emotion. I do it
with better words. And over time I would
really crystallize my message to the
things that I would uh I know if I hit
those that were going to do well. You
and I would break down. Uh here are like
the five topics or whatever. when you
talk about this topic in this way, we
can expect these numbers and we would
just cycle through them. Okay? So, it's
so easy. I've been doing YouTube for 10
years. YouTube is one big human
psychological experiment. I know exactly
what I would need to do. The problem is
it's not real leadership. Leadership is
having a goal in mind and saying, "I'm
going to take us to that goal based on
cause and effect." And that's it. I'm
going to steer by cause and [ __ ]
effect. And that's why even though I
know it's boring to hear me talk about
endlessly this is an economic problem,
this is an economic problem. I don't
give a [ __ ] I don't care if people want
to hear that or not. The reality is it's
true. And because it's true, if we
actually want to get where we're going,
then we've got to do those things.
Remember, I've already [ __ ] won the
game of capitalism. I can piece the [ __ ]
out, go to [ __ ] Singapore or the UAE
and just make a whole lot of money
because I actually understand assets and
I'll make a [ __ ] fortune. I've made
millions of dollars off of assets in
like the last 18 months. Millions,
[ __ ] And I'm screaming into a
microphone every day telling you guys,
"Hey, do the same." Now, your total
receipts aren't going to match mine
because I had more money to start with
because I understand entrepreneurship
and the game of capitalism, how it
actually [ __ ] works that you add
value to people's lives, they will pay
you for it.
It's cause and effect, okay? The world
works on a series of physics and if you
understand those physics, you can
actually get somewhere. So real
leadership has physics and it is hey I
actually know what will be beneficial to
the biggest group possible and I'm going
to lead us down that path. Now
admittedly that right now happens to be
about being in the middle. It's about
mapping compromise. It's about showing
people hey even if you believe things
that I don't believe. I don't trust
myself to be right. I also don't trust
you to be right. So, I know this is
really going to come out in a balance
between hopefully well-meaning sides
that come together to debate and that
have as a foundational principle. We
have to move forward together. Now, that
means I'm going to move forward with
things that I think are worse because I
don't trust any one person. I don't
trust myself not to trend towards
tyranny. I think everybody trends
towards tyranny. There have been very
few people that have been given the ring
of power that actually gave it back. So,
I'm not even going to be arrogant
enough, even though I believe about
myself that I would give it back. I've
never held it. So, I'm not going to just
assume that I'm that guy. Um, IPSO
facto. Sheesh. I I loved everything you
just said right now. Trump and BB have
released a 20point plan to end the war
in Gaza. Um, before I go, you know,
point by point, what's your initial
reaction about this? Is it one of those
sound good till it's done or
>> No, it's never going to work.
>> It's never going to work. I love it. And
you have to do something like you've got
to try. You can't just accept defeat,
but the reality is that you have two
countries. I know they're not
technically a country. I will refer to
them as that for convenience sake. Uh
you have two countries that have
ideologies that are so different they
are forever going to kill each other and
they are locked in a tit fortat. Uh so
what you have is on the one side you've
got people of Jewish faith and even if
they're secular Jews they are still in
the way that I am not Christian but I
have my entire worldview built on
Christian ideology whether they're
religiously uh Jewish or not they are in
steeped in that culture
>> uh going against people who have a
totally different faith and they believe
that uh to be um in line with God that
you have to be prepared to kill the
infidels. And so, and by the way, that
you will be rewarded with paradise. So,
until you overcome that, uh, you're
going to have a problem. There's
actually a really interesting clip. I
didn't pull it. This, it's always hard
to tell what things are going to stick
to my ribs over time. But, uh, Barry
Weiss had somebody on recently that was
a journalism in Israel, a journalist in
Israel, and he was trying to do a
feel-good story. I call a little bit
[ __ ] on that. I have a feeling he
knew exactly how this is going to play
out. Anyway, he went to uh do a
feel-good story on a woman who Israel
had saved twice. And the first time uh
was she was like when she was 5 years
old, she pulled boiling water down on
herself. So, she had all these crazy
severe burns and Israel will bring in
gazins that are severely injured and
they treated her and released her back
and even I guess helped her get a
college degree. And then she gets
recruited into a terrorist cell to be a
suicide bomber. And because she has the
ability to go back and forth across the
border to get treatment and they gave
her three options of targets to hit, a
cafe, a bus, or the hospital that had
saved her life. And she chose the
hospital that had saved her life. She's
going back to the checkpoint. They
realize that she has a suicide vest on
and uh she tries to detonate, but it
doesn't go off. And they have this all
on camera. And so this journalist goes
to her and and she goes to prison, but
they keep treating her for her burns and
all of that. So they've treated her for
burns twice. That's what he's calling
saved her twice. Uh they educate her. Um
and but they do put her in prison for I
don't know how long. Anyway, she ends up
getting out of prison, I think, is one
of the swaps.
>> And so he goes to interview her in Gaza
and is like, you know, basically they've
been good to you twice. do you like
here's the video of you trying to
detonate the bomb and she's having this
big emotional reaction watching it and
he says um would you do it again and
she's like yes oh yes I would do it a
hundred times over and he was like why
like what do you feel when you watch
that and she said I almost tasted
paradise and so it's like if you've got
enough people and I'm not saying
everybody believes that but if you've
got enough people that are like that's
how you get right with God uh then
you're in trouble so I just don't see
how like all of the things that Trump is
trying to put forward are probably the
same kinds of things that I would put
forward. I've said from day one that if
you can't get
both sides to think about the future on
earth of their children, you've already
lost.
>> And the ideology is not on in this life,
how do I make things better for my kids?
>> And it's really interesting. And this is
starting to feel like, and I know if
people understood how I think about the
future of simulated worlds, they would
not think that I was cheapening this
stuff by likening it to video games, but
if you liken it to video games, this
person is in a loop of you keep amassing
resources that you use to destroy. And
because of that, you're never able to
build progression in the game of life.
You always think that basically I have
to lose this level and that sends me to
a better level. Now, maybe it does. I'm
willing to bet it doesn't. And so if
instead you went, hold on a second. I've
got to amass resources in a way that
make my children's life better and
that's how I move on to the next level,
it just changes the context and all of a
sudden it's like we do have to find
compromise. We do have to find a way to
build infrastructure. We have to find a
way to look at our own people and make
it beautiful for them. And yes, we've
been slighted and yes, we've been
wronged. And yes, there's been horrors
and tragedies and war crimes and all of
that. But at the same time, without
ignoring that, because you've got to
make sure that never happens again, but
you also have to find a way to propel
your people forward in this life on this
level of the game. And until we can get
people there, it just isn't going to
work. And so, I would love to find that
I'm wrong and that I'm being
propagandized and that the vast vast
vast majority of people uh do they just
want to make life better for their kids
right here, right now. uh and this time
around they're going to build schools
and they're going to think about
educating their kids and they're going
to get a thriving economy and they are
going to seek investment which by the
way is one of the 20 bullet points is to
make this place investable. Now, if you
have my uh belief system, my value
system, you hear that and you go, "Yeah,
exactly." Like, if you can get economics
to flood into this zone, now economics
creates opportunities. Creates
opportunities for people to what I was
saying earlier, if you want people to
live a good life, they have to work hard
to gain a set of skills that allows them
to make progress towards an honorable
goal. Progress is the like glowing red
thing. It is so baked into the
architecture of the human mind that if
people aren't making progress towards a
goal, they're going to be miserable.
Now, I say honorable goal on purpose
because if your goal is to tear somebody
else down, that is not an honorable
goal. Uh but if they can do that, man,
that'd be amazing. So, yeah, got to get
investment investment and that they then
have to turn that investment into making
things better, making them more
beautiful, making them uh more just.
man, you got to do it all.
>> All right. Uh, call me crazy if I'm if
I'm going off the rails here, but I I'm
seeing similarities in how you said that
this is more of an ideological debate
versus a territory debate versus a good
versus evil debate. It's my fundamental
belief is blue is red and your
fundamental belief is, you know, red is
blue. So, it doesn't m the all our
language, all our equating mechanisms
are all thrown off because we're just
calibrated fundamentally different hypo
hypothetically speaking, right? This
kind of gives me um a a sentiment of
like left versus right relations in
America right now where there are people
on the right that think it doesn't
matter what we do. It doesn't matter
what happens. The Democrats are too far
gone. Same thing for the Democrats. It
doesn't matter what we say. It doesn't
matter how much we show him. Trump's a
fascist and we're never going to save
him. Now we've removed the ability for
our kids to do better than our parents.
This generation is already acknowledging
that. So now think about the generation
coming up under us. Is it one of those
things where we are in effect going to
have a similar conflict to what we see
in the Middle East? But because we have
Starbucks and we have low-level
capitalism, we have something to do
every day. We haven't necessarily
radicalized as the people in the Middle
East who they wake up every day, they
don't have a lot of options. So then
they default to terrorism. you know,
over there if you don't have your own
business, if you don't have an
architecture, it's pretty much that's
70% of the econom the business is kind
of still going. That's why terrorism
quote unquote is a easier business
enterprise to recruit from. You know,
>> I think it's a little bit different than
that. So, that would make sense in a
country that's really struggling
financially. Uh whether it's piracy,
whether it's just outright threat theft,
corruption, whatever. Um, for sure if
that's the if culturally that's become
acceptable and now it's baked into just
the architecture of the way that your
country works,
>> um, then that's a huge pain in the ass
and you're going to have a very hard
time ever getting out from under that
because you you would have to address
the issue at the cultural level. Okay,
but let's set that aside for a second
>> and let's talk about the more profound
driver which is religion. So I think
that religion is an answer to an
evolutionary question. And the
evolutionary question is how do I get
150 people to cooperate flexibly
together and the way that you do that is
you give them something that's bigger
than themselves that will rally all of
them together. Now as humans we tend to
splinter off at around 150 people
because we can't really tell who they
are. And the way that we're able to
build something um even bigger that will
then go unify disperate people is by
having all these disperate groups still
be unified under the banner of we
believe in the same God. And so this
thing that's bigger than us tells us
this is what is true. This is what we
believe. This is how we worship. And so
when I find somebody that has all those
same things, what I'm really finding is
somebody that shares my values. And so
we can cooperate very easily because I
real, oh, you have the same like
representation of Zeus or you have the
you believe in Jesus or whatever,
Muhammad. And now it's like, oh, cool.
We're clicked up. We can cooperate
together against somebody that we
identify as an outsider. So it's it's
just another way of drawing these
circles. So the circle usually starts
with me, then it goes family, uh then it
might go like town, city, country,
religion, and then religion becomes the
biggest one that's really real without
an external threat that would make us
unify as humans.
>> That's about as big of a grouping as
you're going to get as religion. And so
when you've got that thing that is
anchored so deeply in evolution saying,
"Oh, this is an organizing mechanism and
that organizing mechanism carries these
these things that people are willing to
die for. Let's call them values." So
people have these values that they're
willing to die for and they are
transmitted through religion. Until you
reform the interpretation of the
religion, they're going to die for those
things. And so part of what we see, the
difference that we're seeing right now
is uh what Nichi said, the rough
paraphrase of the quote is um God is
dead and we have killed him and we will
never be able to wash the blood off of
our hands. Now the way I interpret that
and this maybe scholars disagree, but
the way that I interpret that that I
think is incredibly useful to
understanding this moment in time is God
conveyed a set of unified values. We
have killed off our unified values and
that is going to have such horrific
consequences that we'll never be able to
wash the blood of the people that we
will kill now that we no longer have
these values in place. There is a reason
that the most murderous regimes on
planet earth, the first thing they do is
eliminate religion. Because I can't have
you organized under anybody other than
me.
>> I can't have you believe that there's a
thing that's worth killing and dying for
other than me. And so now all of a
sudden, and in fact the this is why
people have to read the Goolog
Archipelago. First of all, break men and
women up as two separate groups. If I
asked you, one of these groups is likely
um to allow themselves to be tortured to
death, to be so tough, so gangster that
you can literally drill holes in them,
pull their fingernails out, [ __ ]
choke them, waterboard them, whatever.
And they will literally let you take
them all the way to death instead of
sign a confession of something they
didn't do. Do you think it'll be men or
women?
>> I feel like women are petty enough to do
that.
>> It's effectively exclusively women.
>> Wow.
>> Okay. So, you're chalking it up to
petty. I'll chalk up
>> to redefine being a [ __ ]
>> Hey.
>> All right. I'm done.
>> I I will chalk it up to um once women
like grab on to a belief, they believe
it so strongly like they're just going
to go all the way. So beliefs can impact
humans so deeply that they will
literally die for that thing. And once
you understand that, then suddenly the
world that we're living in right now as
it relates to um Jews and Palestinians
comes into relief pretty fast. So one
side clearly willing to kill everything.
Just kill kill kill kill kill. I can't
drop enough bombs. Uh so because we've
clicked over into their belief system
and then the other side is like yeah
we'll blow ourselves up if that's what
we need to do in order to advance our
cause and we will get people to live in
poverty no problem uh if that's what
gets us to advance our cause. And now in
the west where we've lost all of that we
don't stand for anything. So we'll fall
for anything. So we've got open borders
and immigration and dragging people into
poverty through inflation. Uh uh but all
of it tracks back to beliefs and values.
Period. End of story.
>> Uh okay, Chad is chat is kind of going
up right now and I want to kind of draw
some lines in the sand cuz a lot of
people are saying, "Well, Tom, it's not
different religions. It's the same
religion." Tom, it's not there's a
there's so many peaceful Muslims and
stuff like that. Of course.
>> Yes. So Tyler Robinson isn't the radical
left. Tyler Robinson is somebody who's
part of a specific ideologically that
may have stemmed from the left. Uh it's
the same kind of analogy in that way
that these quote unquote radical
Muslims, people who are so ideologically
captured they think that the death of
another human being is their salvation.
Those are the people that we're talking
about in this exclusive moment.
>> Hold on cuz I'm I'm not going to spend
uh a lifetime making this point clear.
you're a [ __ ] if you can't separate
somebody who is of a faith um but is all
about peace and doesn't want a religious
government and somebody who is of that
same religion but interprets the text
differently and is all for um
destruction attack murder like that
that's how religion works you look back
in history you had Christians
slaughtering people wholesale for not
believing in Christianity But that has
become very unpopular within current
interpretations of Christianity. Being
Muslim isn't the problem. Being a
radical who leverages Muslim doctrine in
order to justify by internally as much
as externally the murder of other
people. So you're uh I if you want to
take somebody who's like, "Hey, when a
person believes these things, that's
going to yield something bad as somebody
who's trying to slag off, as the Brits
would say, an entire religion, you're
[ __ ] dumb." So like, put your big boy
pants on, think through the problem. I'm
talking about cause and effect. The
cause and effect is no matter what
reason you believe it, if you believe
that my life will be better if I strap
on a suicide vest and I go kill a bunch
of people that don't believe what I
believe. If that's your belief set and
oh by the way, if I do that everything
in my life is going to be better. I'm
going to live eternity with a whole
bunch of virgins and everything is just
like the best thing ever. If you really
believe that, that's going to yield
outcomes where some percentage of those
people are like, "Well, I want my
rewards now, so I'm going to go blow
somebody up because I know that's what
you need to do." It doesn't matter how
they come to believe it. Believing it is
the problem. Now, if we go, "Oh, a lot
of people are using this religion to
radicalize people that way." That's
something to pay attention to. But it
would be equally stupid to say that
everybody that believes in that religion
is going to do that. That's just it
doesn't it's nonsensical. So, uh we're
we're trying to map cause and effect
everybody. And I know people just want
to be racist this, racist that. You hate
all this, you hate all that. That is
like the most Roblox simplistic thinking
I've ever heard in my [ __ ] life. Uh
so please don't be dumb.
>> Roblox thinking. That's that's a bar
right there. Uh all right, let's jump
into the actual plan. This is from Trump
and BB after he visited the White House
a few days ago. This is his
comprehensive plan to end the Gaza
conflict. Number one, Gaza will be
dradicalized terror-free zone that does
not pose a threat to its neighbors.
>> That'd be rad. Gaza will be
>> it's great. It's very important and it's
very unlikely for the reasons we just
talked about.
>> Gaza will be redeveloped for the benefit
of the people of Gaza who have suffered
more than enough.
>> That would be incredible. And I love
that they're putting these in. Uh making
Gaza a place that is economically
viable, that's beautiful, that you can
raise kids and feel safe would be
transformative.
Uh it's just a question of culturally
will we be able to get there? If both
sides agree to this proposal, the war
will immediately end. Israeli forces
will withdraw to the agreed upon line to
prepare for a hostage release. During
this time, all military operations,
including aerial and artillery bombard,
>> it's a stage withdrawal. Yep. You you
would have to
>> boom. 42. Uh number four. Within 72
hours of Israel publicly accepting this
agreement, all hostages alive and
deceased will be returned.
>> That would be wonderful. Once all
hostages are returned, Israel will
release 250 life sentence prisoners plus
1,700 gazins who were detained after
October 7, 2023, including all women and
children detained in this in that
context. For every every Israeli hostage
whose remains are released, Israel will
release the remains of 15 deceased
Gazins.
>> Yep. So, I I think pretty much every
time this happens, uh, Israelis release
I mean just some ridiculous ratio more
uh than they receive. But cool.
>> This might be a fractal. But isn't this
kind of telling on yourself that you
you've killed one of us, I'm killing 15.
Like it's a 1 to 15.
>> Well, no, because they don't have a
bunch of dead people like that in
custody. What they have is a bunch of
people that they arrested. But the
numbers that I don't think anybody
disputes are that they've killed 30,000
roughly, this was as of a couple weeks
ago, but 30,000 combatants with a 2:1
ratio.
>> So that gives you 60,000 more innocent
civilians.
>> Okay.
>> For a total of 90,000 dead. So um they
they have far and away Israelis have
killed way way more Palestinians. Even
on a pro ratta basis they've killed
more. Uh so
>> that's an entire entire college football
stadium.
>> Yeah, bro. War is horrific.
>> Crazy. Once all hostages are returned,
Hamas members will commit to peaceful
coexistence and to decommission their
weapons will be given amnesty. uh
members of Hamas who wish to leave Gaza
will be provided safe passage to
receiving countries. I feel like this
one is all
>> I mean listen you're you are not going
to win hearts and minds.
>> Yeah.
>> Maybe in a like over 20 years or 40
years cuz every call it 12 to 15 years
you've got a new generation. So if you
can clock two new generations in 30
years that really grow up being taught
like cooperation, unity, all of that,
>> you really could turn it around. Like
it's pretty scary how fast you can do it
just by indoctrinating kids and but
you've got to indoctrinate them with
something that's positive.
>> Yeah.
>> And I just don't know that we're going
to do that. There's there's so much
bitterness pent up. This is how this
stuff becomes so intractable at some
point. Like this is why it's the the
release valve of but all the people who
have died have been martyed and things
are now better for them just makes it
that much harder. Yeah, you're chasing
death almost versus fruitful life.
>> So, yeah, that's that's the part where
it's like, are we able to pull out of
this? I don't know, man.
>> Uh, number seven. Upon acceptance of
this agreement, full aid will be
immediately sent into the Gaza Strip. At
a minimum, aid quantities will be
consistent with what was included in the
January 19th, 2025 agreement uh
regarding the aid, water, electric,
sewage, rehabilitation of hospitals and
bakeries, and entry of necessary
equipment to remove rubble and open
roads.
>> Yeah. So basically we're going to make
sure that you can clean up and begin the
rebuild have to
>> entry of distribution and aid in the
Gaza trip will proceed without
interference from the two parties
through the United Nations and its
agencies and the Red Crescent in order
to other in addition to other
international institutions not
associated in any manner with either
party. Opening the RAF closing in both
directions will be subject to the same
mechanism implemented under the January
19th agreement. Um, Gaza will be
governed under the temporary
transitional governments of a
technocratic a-political Palestinian
committee responsible for delivering the
day-to-day running of public services
and municipalities for the people in
Gaza. To me, I think this is the win is
that they're at least remov We are out
of Gaza and then now we're giving
Palestinians control of Gaza versus like
a Israeli oversight board or something
like that.
>> Yes. But this this is where you're going
to see values play up. So the Arab
Spring did not result in Egypt getting
better.
>> So the bad news is like this is where
America does not get enough credit. What
the founding fathers did is
unbelievable. And some of it is timing.
Like you don't have social media. So
it's far easier to have like a cohesive
narrative.
>> Um you still have that like
entrepreneurial frontiersmen spirit of
like we expect people to be hardcore to
be able to carry an insane burden. Uh,
and I mean I'm curious to know how much
this played into it. There was also
dueling. So if you were too uh like
offensive to the other person, they'd be
like, "Well, we're going to shoot each
other."
>> Yeah. Meet you outside 20 pieces.
>> So did that like keep people in check to
some degree. Uh you had a period where
being a powerful order was like one of
the coolest things you could do if you
wanted to get laid. And so it was like
guys really want to be good at that
speech. And so now it's like they're
forced to clarify their ideas. writing
was considered like one of the most
important things in the world. It was a
meattocracy because people were getting
shot and killed. So you've got Hamilton,
one of the most important figures,
learning economics while on the
battlefield. He is still carrying
economic textbooks like in his saddle
bags. It's wild. So that kind of
environment is going to give you just
different people. people that are
hardwired to solve very difficult
problems and you literally kill the
weak. So you have this like natural
coing process of who are the people that
were smart enough to stay alive, who are
the people that had the guts to fight
because that's how they earned
credibility. That's how they were able
to step into politics. And Hamilton knew
it straight up. It's not like this was
an invisible thing that was happening in
the background. Hamilton was like, I've
got to get to the front lines because
I'm a dude from nowhere. Nobody knows
who I am. I've got to earn credibility.
So I'm going to go straight to the front
line. I'm going to shoot and be shot at.
I'm gonna earn my stripes for being
brave and for being smart. It is exactly
how Churchill rose to power. God, I love
his story. It's unbelievable. But he
uses literal physical courage, facing
down bullets, walking the perimeter of
the trenches in World War I. As an
officer, he did not have to do that. He
chooses to do it. And all of his men are
like, "This guy's a lunatic. He's
totally fearless, but we love him." And
so like this is how people were rising
to power back then. So are you going to
be able to put together like do they
have the founding fathers who are going
to be able to say the hard thing that
have proven that they can lead that
aren't going to tend towards tyranny
that want to see economic viability that
want to step into the 21st century? Are
they going to have the great men of
history that they need? I don't know,
man. So if they do and they can overcome
the things that pulled Egypt back into
totalitarianism, hey word. But if they
can't,
you're going to be in trouble.
>> Have you watched the musical yet?
>> The musical?
>> Hamilton?
>> I've seen half of it.
>> Okay. The first half or the second half?
>> First half.
>> Oh man. Okay, that's a good half, so
I'll give it to you.
>> Thing is, I really enjoyed it, but my
wife's not a musical fan, so she was
like, "Okay, we'll watch half now and
we'll watch half later." And the half
later has never happened.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Um, number 10.
>> When it comes to town though, you and I
will go.
>> Don't. This is on camera. I will
definitely go,
>> bro. Let's go
>> for real, bro.
>> 100%.
>> All right, chat. When it comes,
>> and and I we don't go, I'mma put y'all
and y'all got to help me shave them,
bro.
>> I know I was late and I shouldn't be
talking right now, but
>> I will buy the tickets. Let's [ __ ]
go.
>> That'd be dope. Okay,
>> dude. That would be dope. So, you just
have to tell me when it comes to town.
>> I got you. I won't miss it.
>> I got you.
>> Um, number 10. A Trump economic
development plan to to rebuild and
energize Gaza will be created by
convening a panel of experts who have
helped birth some of the thriving modern
miracle cities in the Middle East. This
just says Trump casino like Gaza, the AI
image,
>> love. Fantastic. Yay. Yay. Yay. The
reason I say yay is you've got Middle
Easterners,
>> presumably Arab, presumably Muslim that
have shown we know how to do this. the
Dubai boys, the UAE boys come through
list.
>> Yes. You don't want a bunch of people
who culturally do not understand what's
going on trying to force our cultural
vision of a city. You don't want Trump
going in. If they want a casino, which
they probably don't, but if they did,
great. Let what? Sure.
>> You just want it driven by people who
culturally understand
what they've grown up in. Because
otherwise, you're trying to force
something down. It's never going to
work. You're not going to roll in there
and turn them into westernized
uh people who want a western style
democracy. That's not going to be what
this is.
>> You're not going to go over there and
build Philadelphia. You got to kind of
do your own thing.
>> No, man. It's Yeah, it's got to be from
them.
>> 11. A special economic zone will be
established with preferred tariff and
access rates to be negotiated with
participating countries. Um 12. No one
will be forced to leave Gaza, and those
who wish to leave will be free to do so
and free to return. We will encourage
people to stay and offer them the
opportunity to build a better Gaza.
>> Love it. This. Yeah, this I actually do
love. I think that's a good one. Uh, all
right. Brass tax. Hamas and other
factions agreed not to have any role in
the governance of Gaza directly,
indirectly, or in any form. All military
tan offensive infrastructure, including
tunnels and weapon production facilities
will be destroyed and not rebuilt. There
will be a process of demilitarization of
Gaza under the supervision of inter
independent monitors which will include
placing weapons permanently beyond use
through an age process of
decommissioning and supported by an
international funded buyback and
reintegration program with all verified
by the independent monitors.
>> Okay. So they're going to have to do
something to maintain peace. That's
going to be the big thing.
>> Uh so demilitarizing 100%. This is what
we do. This is what you do to Japan.
This is what you do to Germany. Like
you've got to demilitarize the people
that were psychotic. Uh,
but you also have to help them start
building back, have law and order. Like
safety is going to be a huge thing. And
so what kind of police force do you
have? Who's on the police force? That is
going to be hugely important. Far better
that they be Arabs than that they be
Israelis. Like and even Arab Israelis, I
think would be a problem. So this has
got to be people from other surrounding
countries um countries Egypt, Jordan,
etc. that will come in and participate
in this. So much is going to hang on
that.
>> A guarantee will be provided by regional
partners to ensure that Hamas and the
factions comply with their obligations
and that new Gaza poses no threat to its
neighbors or its people. Uh 15. The
United States will work with Arab and
international partners to develop a
temporary international stabilization
force. That's the people that you're
talking about. um to deploy in Gaza. The
ISF, I got a G. Um the ISF will train
and provide support to vetted
Palestinian police forces in Gaza and
will consult with Jordan and Egypt who
have extensive experience in this field.
This force will be the long-term
internal security solution. So to your
point, it will be a coalition of US Arab
and other of international partners.
>> That that'll be tricky. And if I were
going to write a story set in there, it
would be all about how the ISF itself
ends up being corrupted. Uh because
that's the real risk here.
>> Yeah. Uh, but if the ISF, if you can
somehow find the unccorruptible ones
that really just want to like see
something good happen, it could be
amazing. That's not going to be an easy
task, but um, all walkar.
>> Yeah,
>> let's see what happens.
>> Number 16. Israel will not occupy or
annex Gaza as the ISF establishes
control and stability. The IDF will in
will withdraw based on standards,
milestones, and time frames linked to
the demilitarization that will be agreed
upon between the IDF, ISF, and the
guaranteers in the United States with
the objective of a secure Gaza that no
longer poses a threat to Israel, Egypt,
or its citizens. Um 17. In the event
Hamas delays or rejects his proposal,
the above, including the scaled up aid
operation, will proceed in the
terror-free areas handed over from the
IDF to the ISF. Um that one's a little
in the event Hamas rejects us the above
including the scaled up aid operations
will proceed in the terrorfree area. So
then that seems like
>> so basically we're gonna take over you
with this plan but we're going to take
over the areas that do comply and
basically put more and more pressure
>> on you guys. Okay, that that's at least
sort of a so that it doesn't have to be
an all or nothing thing.
uh an interfaith dialogue process will
be established based on the values of
tolerance and peaceful coexistence to
try and change mindsets and narratives
of Palestinians and Israelis by
emphasizing the benefits that can be
derived from peace
>> while Gaza redevelopment advances and
when the PA reform program is faithfully
carried out the conditions may finally
be in place for a credible pathway to
Palestinian self-determination and
statehood which we recognize as the
aspiration of the Palestinian people.
That's a fancy way to say two-state
solution.
>> Yeah. don't act a fool for a while and
we'll give you a state.
>> And last but not least, the United
States will establish a dialogue between
Israel and the Palestinians to agree on
a political horizon for peaceful and
prosperous coexistence. And then this is
the map. Um, blue is the current line of
control. After this is agreed on in the
hostage release, it will go to the
yellow and then once you guys act right,
it will go to the red. And then once
everything is fully mobilized,
decommissioned, then they'll go to this
gray uh gray zone. and then Gaza will
rem will retain uh this uh property. So,
I mean, hey man, I feel like you can say
what you want about Trump. If he would
have came with a proposal like this for
thei the National Guard in Chicago and
Portland, it probably would have been
met with a different reaction. So, I at
least appreciate the sensitivity and how
that the language that they're using. It
seems very neutral and it seems very
focused on driving peace for everybody
and not this is Israel's plan but Trump
is saying it or this is you know Hamas's
back door like there it doesn't seems
like they're tough on both sides and it
>> I really want to hear directly from
Palestinian leadership as to how they
perceive this.
>> Uh obviously we're hearing through
intermediaries we're hearing from
Western living people that show up on
Piers Morgan. Uh, but I want to hear
directly from their leadership. If their
leadership is like, "Yes, this this is
good. We are on board with this. This is
fantastic. We actually think that this
is going to get through." Uh, but I
haven't heard anything.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. Totally. One, two, three. You're
right. What leadership? But somebody
somewhere is going to have to claim to
be leadership. I want to hear from those
people. In reality, this is never going
to move forward. Not in any meaningful
way. That's my very sad, cynical take. I
wanted to. But the again, this comes
down to values and beliefs. Values and
beliefs. Values and beliefs. And when
you've just been bombed to [ __ ] hell
and back, are you really going to be
like, "Yeah, you know what? Word. Let's
let's get some schools in here. Uh,
let's start building cafes. Like, let's,
you know, let's run some businesses and
make life better." I don't think so.
You're going to be like, "Fuck those
kids. I'm I want to blow people up."
That's just what it's going to be.
>> Okay. Okay, so I have two questions. Is
it on one side, is it we should draw the
line in X and then just people who don't
agree go this way and
>> No, the plan's great. Run the plan. Try
>> try try try try. But if you want to know
in my heart of hearts like what do I
think is actually going to happen? Like
if this were poly market I'm like yeah
good luck.
>> This feels like reading all these words
it's very western. This is written from
a um this is how like stable countries
operate. They're not stable.
>> So they elected a government that
basically immediately turned
terroristic. They're electing they
elected a government that took billions
of dollars in aid and built tunnels for
war fighters. They elected a government
that uh when like bombing raids are
being done, they don't let people into
the tunnels. They're like, "Sorry." and
the fighters go into the tunnels and
it's good for them every time they get
killed. So every time their own people
get killed, I think that's part of the
plan is to win the hearts and minds of
the Western world by showing look how
barbaric they are.
>> So uh yeah, it's um I just don't know
that there has to be a change of heart
and minds first for that to work and I
don't know that they have. That's why I
want to hear Palestinians who are on the
ground. I want to hear them talk about
this plan. If they're like, "Oh my god,
this is amazing. Finally, please Jesus.
We just want peace." They probably won't
say Jesus, but we just want peace.
>> Yay. That would be amazing. Uh, but I
would need to hear that.
So,
>> uh, it's it's sad though because I think
it's one of those chicken or the egg
things because it's like everybody wants
the same thing, but yet we
we don't think it's going to work. So,
are we going to then halfass it and then
when it doesn't work, we just go back to
what we're used to of the bombs and the
murders and the things like, can we give
a good effort? Like, I just hope.
>> Yeah. I mean, let's try, but they've got
to all get in. All right, moving on.
>> Open AI released Sora 2 uh and the
internet hasn't stopped reacting from
it. So, for those that haven't seen it,
this is their new image generation
model.
>> What was possible with moving images?
>> Okay. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,
wait.
>> Everything you're seeing, pull your
phone out. Look at your phone.
Everything you're seeing right now is
made with AI. The image you're looking
at right now was made with AI. I thought
it was like a one, two, three, go.
His voice is AI. This is AI. You are not
about to see anything or hear anything
that isn't AI generated. Dude, this is I
will make predictions sometimes that
even I'm like, God, is it really going
to happen?
This is what I knew was coming.
>> Yeah.
>> Almost three years ago. And I was like,
guys, don't be confused by what you see
now. This is going to become
indistinguishable from real life. We're
not quite indistinguishable from real
life. You can still hear it. But if if
you said that was film footage, I'd be
like, "Of course it is."
>> Yes,
>> that is indistinguishable.
>> I literally thought it was going to be
like a one, two, three. Now it's AI
thing. I didn't realize even this was.
So, I got fooled.
>> Here we go.
>> The Sora app powered by the allnew Sora
2.
>> Dude, that looks like a video game for
anybody.
>> Most powerful imagination engine ever
built.
>> Yeah, correct. This is insane. And it's
packed with new features. It's I'll pass
it to Bill for more.
>> Unicorns from the moon, by the way.
>> And the dust is kicking up as you
expect. And I love how they focus on
real life examples with sound like
actual video.
>> Yeah, not animation, not
>> Oh. Oh, they'll get there. And I have
some clips of anime that anime is way
harder to do than real life. And they've
>> is also the state of the art for motion
and body mechanics, marking a giant leap
forward in realism. The thing everyone
needs to be paying attention to, not
just the visual quality, because we've
been able to do visual fidelity like V3
is dope. Uh, watch how accurate to
physics it is. So, it understands, oh,
if you've got a snowmobile going across
ice, it's going to kick up some ice
behind it, which you will see. Uh, they
do some water simulation. I don't know
if it's all in this video, but so many
videos have gone around. There's one of
Attack on Titan where a Titan reaches
out and grabs the wall and like crushes
it and it crushes where his finger
actually hits it. There's one of like uh
an ocean where the surf meets a big
rock, but the rock has a hole in it and
the water actually punches through the
hole and reacts the way it would react
in real life if there was a hole there.
So, that meant that the generation it
created understood this is a hole and
this is how water would react to a hole
when it's got this kind of velocity from
a wave. Dude, uh there's again I I'll if
if they don't show up in this video,
there's another one of a gymnast and it
doesn't do all the weird like stuff that
it has done historically because it
understands how a body moves through
space. Okay. Anyway, let's watch.
>> Crazy.
Look at that. Look at how the light
affects it. Jesus.
Yep. It now understands how the dress
would twirl. It understands how her body
would move. Oh my god. And we're
introducing Cameo. Giving you the power
to step into any world or scene and
letting your friends catch you and
theirs.
>> Here, look, look, look, look, look,
look. You see that hole at the bottom of
the rock and the water shoots out
differently? Jesus.
>> On the path to AGI, the gains aren't
just about productivity. It's about
creating new possibilities.
>> It's also about creativity and joy.
>> 1 2 3 4
the when they start this is claimation.
When they start getting into the um this
is so wild. Look at the water, man. Look
at the water. Look how realistic that
is. Now, look, the stuff still isn't
perfect. There are certain things that
are like just enough off. But remember,
it will never be this bad again.
>> Yeah,
>> it will never be this bad again. Let
that sink in. It only gets better. And
what is crazy to me, Drew, is that
people will still clown on this and be
like, "Oh, bro, you can still see like
it's the rate of improvement that needs
to freak people out. Less than three
years ago, this was Will Smith eating
the spaghetti and it was like everywhere
behind his head."
>> Less than three years. So, what happens
now, three years from now? Dude, this is
why Okay. Okay. Okay.
Stop. everybody that uh you need to
understand this as you watch the next
clip. Making things that are
photorealistic look right is the easy
part. So making something look nope way
easier because you have so much training
data. People are uploading
photorealistic content
in the millions of hours every day.
>> So you just train the models endlessly
just chunking through all of that to get
an animated series. I mean, you're going
to get
a thousand hours a year. So, millions of
hours a day versus a thousand hours a
year. The difference is so massive
>> that
>> I was like, is AI ever going to have
enough data?
>> Yeah.
>> Like I I wasn't sure. I wasn't sure that
there are enough patterns because
there's so many different styles. And so
they have done something to the
algorithm's ability to learn between
Sora 1 and two because this isn't they
now have more things to train on.
They're in the last 3 years you've maybe
gotten 6,000 additional hours. That's
nothing. I mean that's like the world's
most ridiculously small rounding error.
But they have found a way to make the
algorithm more effective. So, okay, with
all of that preamble, now watch how good
this anime, this is all AI
>> just one.
>> Even the performance and the voices are
close.
>> You're finished, Shinigami
>> like hell I am.
>> That's I mean, you can tell it's AI, but
that's what his voice sounds like in the
anime.
>> I'm not done yet.
>> This is so wild. This is for Attack on
Titan things. Like, dude, this is so
good.
It's so real. Like, I know what
character that's Levi. Like, you know
who these are? Oh my god. This is
insanity. This is insanity. You can't
Okay, pause. So, I had one of those
moments yesterday where I'm like, I'm
going to just quit everything. And now,
now is the time. We we just launch uh
and I just make YouTube videos based in
Kaizen World, Kais of the Air Gap,
Project Kaizen. That's it. I do nothing
else. Like
>> this is one of those if we can prove the
model out,
>> bro.
>> Like now I can build a business around
telling my stories without having to
hire a 50 person animating team. Uh,
like this is crew to shoot it.
>> Insanity.
This is insanity. So, the only thing
that I I think is still missing is you
can still only do it on characters that
already exist, but cuz it does need some
amount of training data.
>> So, the question becomes, how expensive
will it be to create the baseline of
those? It's probably still too
expensive. But if tools come out that
let you train them yourself, I'm going
to guess a year from now that you get
something open source that allows you to
train it cuz those those models already
exist. You just need to it needs to be
physics aware
>> and then you need to be able to feed it
your own characters.
>> Man, this this happened much faster. I
thought we were still
>> Yeah, I agree.
>> I would say four months ago I thought we
were 18 months away from this. So I
thought we were still 14 months away
from this. Uh, sorry, I say eight months
ago. Uh,
roughly a year away from this. So, the
fact that it's come out this fast is
startling.
>> And to your point, they just said Bill
will be back in Sora 3. What are we
going to be a year from now? Um, it's
mindboggling. Um, okay. I have so
insane.
>> I have to be honest. I have to give you
a credit. I have to say this publicly
because you have been one of the people
that have been telling me from day one,
Drew, use AI. Drew, use AI. I did a
musical last year. You're like, yo,
Drew, just upload your music. Just do
it. No, I got to mix it and I got to
Well, the new AI model, just upload it.
Go. So, seeing something like this come
out is like I was like, "Oh, yeah. I'll
do it next week when I get some time
off. You know, I'll be in the hotel
room. I can just bang some stuff out."
>> Like, I don't even have the time to push
it off and wait till later because it's
going to be so fast.
>> Now, I'm like, I could do the whole
thing. I could put the whole show in and
it just opened up more things. So, like
>> to the people that have said that you
have said like, "Hey, AI is important."
Maybe they see it like give give us a
wakeup call. give us an alarm. I know
I'm using uh analogies that are
applicable to me right now, but a lot of
people are thinking like, okay, AI is
coming for our job. Sure. And then they
kind of like tune it out. They see one
bad video. Oh, AI is not there yet. They
see one messed up frame, they say, okay,
yeah, it's not it's not going to take my
job yet. But this rate of change is
crazy happening right now. So,
>> so what I will say as a PSA is that
you're if you're fighting back against
this, you are a lamp lighter. uh you are
a horse and buggy manufacturer and the
reality is there's you can fight against
electricity as much as you want. You can
fight against the automobile as much as
you want. Uh they're going to happen.
They're going to happen. And I just did
a video on this like you need only think
about um game theory. Game theory tells
you AI is going to be developed no
matter what. No matter how dangerous it
is, it doesn't matter. It is not going
to stop. It is not going to slow down.
we can't afford to because other people
will do it. Any technology that has an
advantage will be developed and AI has a
tremendous advantage. It is going to be
developed at breakneck pace with all the
brakes ripped off. That is how it's
going to happen. So now given that if
you're watching the rate of change and
you don't realize like how much
difference a year makes, you don't have
to project out very far. So, if it took
us three years to go from the original
Will Smith eating spaghetti to now
things that are truly photorealistic
that understand physics, um, just go out
five years. In five years, every single
piece of content is made with AI. Now,
it still be made still may be made by
humans. Not saying that this will be
like uh slot farms just overgenerating
things that don't matter, but those are
going to be the tools. No one's going to
deal with working with real actors. No
one's going to deal with grips and
electricians and all that. You're just
going to uh go in, use the tools, which
within 5 years, 100% you'll have this
level of control. You create all the
characters. You give them a backstory
that you'll work with AI to write. Uh
and then literally over it'll still
probably take a certain amount of time
to render. So let's say over the course
of a couple hours, you render an episode
of television or a feature film and
that's it. And algorithms will be used
to bring the best content to the
surface. Don't worry. um in terms of
it's not all just going to be slop, but
what you want to think about is do we
actually want slop and I think the
answer is yes. I think people are being
derogatory about it now in the same way
that people are being derogatory about
shorts. But the reality is one of the
things that I most enjoy doing with my
wife is sitting down and for an hour
just watching funny short videos. It's
wonderful. It's a thing that's added
like joy to my life. Like it's
incredible. So, there's going to be a
change and for us old people, there's
going to be a morning period of like,
oh, video games will be different.
Entertainment will be different. Uh, but
it is all going to happen. And so, my
advice to you is to learn how to use it,
to fall in love with it as an art form,
not just be the old get off my grass
fuddy duddy, but like actually find a
way um to engage with it and to enjoy
it. And then the stuff that you already
love, there'll be some sort of niche
place for it.
But this entertainment will be
will be the difference between Netflix
and Tik Tok. Like when you think about
the diff the how big of a chasm there is
between that actually no in the next 5
years it will be the difference between
uh standing in line 1989 to get a movie
ticket to see the original Batman at the
movie theater later that day and Tik
Tok. that will be what's going to happen
in the next 5 years. Uh so it will
radically transform. So just brace
yourself for that.
>> Sheesh. Um and we already have that
there's that Netflix and Amazon backed
startup that is already doing
usergenerated
uh prompts to make your own TV shows and
things like that. So
>> all the vibe stuff. Yeah. Yeah. And
look, that's the but it'll start there.
It'll get better. more and more tools
will be made that will give people
control and you'll be able to build all
the things that you've ever wanted to
build. And for people that really take
it seriously, it'll be the most
extraordinary experience of your life if
you're a creative.
>> So, um, building Kaizen before AI
sucked. It's so much more fun now. We
can do so much more with less. It's
unlocked a lot more creativity. Uh,
doing comic books before AI sucked. It
was so much more expensive, so much more
time consuming, so much more compromise.
like it's not fun. It's not as fun. And
so this stuff is really going to unleash
creativity. Now, it's also going to
shape the way that people consume the
media. And that's the part where if
you're old, it doesn't feel good because
it changes. And it's like, well, that's
not how we used to do it. And there is
some of that. I am mourning the death of
like PC and console gaming. That makes
me sad that things are moving to the
phone. But um I'll fall in love. I will
find a way to fall in love with where
the medium is going. Uh and then find a
way to create within it. that's like,
"Oh, this is rad." And there's always a
way to make the coolest thing ever. But
the the world is never static. So, don't
long for a static world. You're never
going to get it. Uh, and to everybody
that shows up for this show, we cannot
thank you enough. Uh, it's amazing. So,
we very much appreciate your engagement.
Uh, it's incredible. The future is
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>> All right, let's jump right into it,
guys.
I really want to start with this Russia
Ukraine thing cuz I'm going to be
honest, I did not see this coming. Um,
Trump doing a 100% 180 like completely
flip-flopping on his position. Let's
take it straight from his mouth.