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DNI Tulsi Gabbard is calling Obama out
for treason. Zalinski is facing large
protests in Ukraine. The UK is doing a
nightmarish test of individual carbon
credits. Hunter Biden goes completely
rogue on Channel 5. France declares X an
organized gang and starts wiretapping
their employees. The far right looked
completely unhinged on a recent episode
of Jubilee debate. And Elon plans to
build a 50 million unit supercluster AI
of course in the next five years. That
would be insane. But the thing that is
on absolutely everybody's lips, Drew, is
is Obama going to go to prison?
>> Prison might be a stretch, but Tulsi
Gabbert went on the Fox News Channel
circuit. She released some damning
evidence that directly puts it at
Obama's feet that he started the Russian
collusion hoax. as a way to undermine
the Trump presidency.
>> The fact that we had in President Obama
and his leadership team uh uh people who
did not want to accept the will of the
American people in electing Donald Trump
in 2016 and therefore cooked up this
treasonous conspiracy to again try to
effectively and they did effectively
launch a year'slong coup against the
sitting president of the United States.
There are no guarantees in life, but if
you put Obama in prison, guilty or not,
you are going to spike your odds of a
civil war so dramatically prosecute the
case, you prove to the American people
that this either really did happen or
they get a chance to clear their name.
But let's say that it's a conviction.
Like obviously he did it. Everybody's
convinced.
You don't put him in prison. At that
point, for the love of your country,
you've got to destroy his legacy for
sure. You've got to make it known what
he did for sure.
>> But dude,
you've got to find some way where this
man does not end up in a cell. Like,
that is so wild. And if people cannot
see, one that the odds that the people
of America just start fighting with each
other, they're already blind. But two,
that is going to be used against you
when you lose power and you will lose
power at some point and they are going
to come after you so hard and then it
goes from seeming existential to
literally being existential
and and it's like every time I turn
around there's just another thing
whether it's passing the big beautiful
bill and continuing to rack up the debt
or now this or the fact if they really
did do it. Uh if the Obama
administration really is guilty of
trying to sabotage President Trump's um
presidency, like this is so out of
pocket, this does not end well.
>> I understand maintaining the integrity
of, you know, democracy and not jailing
a president, but I have a super cut here
of how much they perpetuated this
statement. So, it seems like some
consequences have to fall. This is from
2016 and 2019 when Trump was running.
Russia hacking the election to elect
Trump is the end of our democracy. Votes
were definitely effective. Russia hacked
the election to tilt it to Mr. Trump.
>> The Russians definitively hacked the
election. Russia did hack the election.
No doubt the Russians hacked the
election. Yes, Russia hacked the
election. In fact, Russia hacked the
election.
>> President-elect Donald Trump still not
sounding convinced that Russia hacked
the election.
>> The president does not want to come to
terms with the fact that the Russians
hacked the election. President Trump
says he still wonders if if the Russians
hacked the election.
>> If you can get him to accept that Russia
hacked the election, see if you can get
him to accept who won the civil war.
>> If he admits it, it casts a shadow on
his victory over Hillary Clinton.
>> Russia hacked the election. Russia
hacked the election.
>> Russia hacked the election.
>> Russia hacked the election. Th
>> This is literally like the Jews and the
Palestines. They're never going to agree
on who fired the first shot. It's just
back and forth as far as the I can see.
Everybody's going to have a claim on
something going back back back.
Eventually, somebody has to say, I mean,
I'm cannot believe I'm gonna quote Jesus
again. But at some point, somebody has
to turn the other cheek. At some point,
somebody has to say, "All right, listen.
Clearly, there has to be a line. We can
never allow this again." But you're
going to perpetuate this cycle, which I
am so desperate to get America out of.
And I realize with every deep dive I
write, with everything I go down the
path, dude, there is something pulling
me towards getting America to back away
from the hyperpolarization, trying to
mechanistically unwind that, to get
people to understand what you do to
bring back a thriving middle class, if
we can't get everybody uh protected at
the level of policy, to act like there's
policy at the level of the individual so
at least people that are paying
attention can do something about it.
this and I know I'm gonna get drugged
because people are going to say that
>> he if if he did it, he should go to
jail. It was just as absurd when they
were doing it to Trump. It's just as
absurd now. We have to pull the facts
out. Have total transparency on this.
Have total transparency on um Epstein.
Like it all needs to be out and let the
chips fall where they may. But
leveraging all of this stuff to jail
your opponent is how a nation commits
suicide. This is so reckless.
>> Us being in this pressure cooker of
populism right now, is there a way to
deescalize that, to decompress it? How
do we step off the gas without letting
corruption run a muck without like
letting it be? Like what? How do we get
out of this moment?
>> People have to look forward and see
positive economics. If you do that, the
amount of tension that goes away is
extreme because
>> you need the people need to feel better
about the
>> people need to feel that the pie is
getting bigger because right now a big
thing that we're fighting over is the
pie feels very small. There are people
getting iced out, which they are right
about. They're wrong about why they're
getting iced out, but they are right
that they are getting iced out.
>> That that scares people, man. They've
got kids to take care of. They are
freaked. They are legitimately freaked
out that they are not going to be able
to take care of their kids with as much
money as I have. When I project out
having a kid, I can feel how different
that makes everything. Like all of a
sudden, it's like, "Oh my god, I don't
mind if I go homeless. I don't mind if I
go hungry." But there's no universe in
which I'm letting my kid go hungry.
>> So now you've got everybody on both
sides legitimately scared about that.
They've racked up as much debt as
they're going to be able to rack up.
Groceries are getting more expensive.
They can't afford the house they're in
or they can't afford the house that they
want to get. I mean, it's it actually is
dire. And so then you're given this
ready-made drama of red team, blue team,
left and right. And you're like, "Cool.
I now feel like I belong. I have
somebody to hate. I didn't do anything
wrong. I'm not the bad guy. They're the
bad guy. They did this to me. I'm in my
feels." And it feels good.
>> Righteous indignation is a power
emotion. We need that level of morality
to find its way into the political
system. President Zalitzki is going to
have to use some of that advice because
there has been an uprising in Kiev where
there have been mass protests that
erupted. So, a new policy was signed in
law that targeted the independence of
Ukraine's anti-corruption bodies,
including the National Anti-Corruption
Bureau that was made infamous with Joe
Biden's threats against a prosecutor
investigating Hunter Biden's corrupt
activity at Brushma. Um, the Ukrainian
government is also becoming increasingly
unpopular due to Silinski's refusal to
seek an end to the war. Um, as you can
see in this video down here, there's
been mass protest, the largest organized
protest since Russia first invaded
Ukraine when they initially uh protested
the border uh intrusion. Um, if you have
to drag people out of their homes,
snatch them off the streets, load them
into vans to have enough soldiers to um
fight, you are in trouble and you're
going to have to find an exit to the
war. If you're going to keep fighting
long after your people have lost the
will to fight and Zalinsky wants to be
the lion of Ukraine in the way that
Church Hill was the lion of Europe and
literally singlehandedly stopped the um
Germans from just taking over
everything.
>> The right way to view Churchill is a man
who did whatever it took to beat the
Nazis. And I mean whatever it took. And
as
modern day people, we have a very hard
time looking at the demands that history
makes of people. And Church Hill is this
utterly fascinating character who was
wildly amoral in service of the right
value system. And so he got voted out of
office immediately following the war. So
his thank you for saving Europe was to
get booted out and to basically say f
off and that's that. I mean really
really wild. But never did he try to um
stop the democratic process in the UK
was like yep this is the process. He uh
once made a really catastrophic mistake
when he when he was in the Admiral T and
during World War I and he said, "No BS.
Send me to the front line of World War I
so I can earn my way back."
>> Dude, that imagine a politician like
sending people in to die and then being
like, "Okay, this was my mistake 100%. I
want to be sent to the most deadly place
on earth right now and I'm going to
lead. I'm going to lead well and I'm
going to show you that I am physically
courageous,
>> that I will earn my spot back in this
government. And he does. And the
soldiers on the front line become
terrified of going on patrol with him
because he was so fearless.
>> He didn't care. He would talk. He would
walk like the perimeter. He got shot at
multiple times and other people would
dive because they would hear the bullets
whizzing past. And he was like, "If it's
my time, it's my time. But like, I'm not
going to be afraid. I'm not going to
live my life like that." Dude, he's so
singular. But he also
>> ends up going, "Huh, the US, I'm not
making any progress getting them into
the war. I'm losing the backing. Europe
is just falling one country after
another. I'm obviously going to lose the
homeland if I can't get America in, even
like everybody in the homeland.
Obviously, this isn't going to be a cell
that I can make forever." and he ends up
allowing probably probably allegedly
like
>> enough
enough like top secret information has
come out that I certainly believe the
following statement to be true. But I do
want to confess to the audience that
this is um contested. Not every
historian agrees with what I'm about to
say. But I believe that he allowed the
Lucatania to be sunk, which had British
and American civilians on it because he
knew if he could get the Germans to sink
a boat with US citizens on it that
America would
>> turn on the war. And that's exactly what
happened. And they do like I could go
into all the details about the
Lucatania, but it was a passenger ship
that they put like six million rounds of
ammunition on. They changed the motor
structure and everything on the boat so
that uh presumably so it could haul the
weaponry, but that also changed its
sonic signature in the water and they
knew that it to a yubot that it would
sound like a military vessel.
>> So the US does all of these things. Uh
the Germans try to run an ad in the
newspaper saying like, "Hey, some of
these ships like they are intentionally
trying to put you in harm's way and
these ships can and will be sunk because
many of them are carrying munitions."
One of those ads ran next to the Times
for the Lucatania. So they tried, but
the US, I think it was State Department
ended up stopping them from running all
but one of the papers from running the
ad. So it was like Germany's trying to
stop them because they know what's going
on. the US State Department won't let
them run the ads. It's like absolutely
wild. They end up pulling the
Lucatania's um chaperon. So, there was
supposed to be a ship to meet it. They
pulled that even though they had
knowledge that there were yubot in the
vicinity. They told the Lucatania to
slow down. So, they pull its chaperone.
They know that there are Ubotats and
they tell it to slow down after changing
the um the motor style so that it would
sound like a military vehicle and denied
like crazy that it had the munitions on
it. But however many decades later,
divers go down, there it is, 6 million
rounds of ammunition. So the odds that
that was Churchill going, I got to get
me some Americans killed from where I'm
sitting borders on 100%. M. Now, when
you look at history through that lens,
when you look at Churchill through that
lens, now look at what Zalinski is going
through. Russia's invading. He's the
lion of Ukraine. He's not a bad guy.
He's trying to protect his people. He
could have gotten out. He didn't.
Instead of asking for a ride, he asked
for
>> ammunition. Like, it's gangster.
But he's also willing to kidnap his own
people to put him on the front line. God
knows how much spin, lies, whatever,
whatever to try to continue to get
funding for the war. Also refusing to do
elections. Um, and so
how are we going to look at Churchill?
Some people are saying he's a bad guy
and we should have just let Germany do
what Germany does. And I hope we showed
the clip later from Jubilee where the
kids like Nazis weren't so bad. I mean,
I was really distressed by that. So, if
you believe, as your uncle Billy does,
that Churchill was the good guy and the
Nazis were the [ __ ] bad guys, then
it's like when I look at what Zalinski
is doing, I'm like, I get it. To defend
your country against
>> an invader,
>> I mean, how far would you go? I'd go
pretty far. Drew,
>> does Zinsky have like a Lucatania
moment? Like what can he do to rally the
troops, get support? Because to your
point, I feel like he's grasping for
straws at this point.
>> Honestly, Russia is doing that for us
now. Trump is getting so frustrated with
his inability to get Putin to be
reasonable that he's just going to fund
them. He'll fund them out of spite. as
long as he doesn't lose his base in the
US, he will fund them out of spite. And
I really think the more I pay attention
to Trump, I really think the way to like
look at him is a through the lens of
real politique, so he's going to do
whatever he can get away with, but once
he can't get away with it, he'll stop.
And then he is somebody who um if he can
negotiate a deal that through his very
American, very entrepreneurial eyes is
reasonable, then great. He'll forgive
anything. He'd do a deal with North
Korea. He'd do a deal with Russia the
second the bomb stopped. He'd do a deal
with Hamas. I'm not kidding. like he
would do a deal with anybody if he likes
the terms and feels like everybody's
going to make out well on this.
>> Uh and I think that he will drop
gigantic
bombs on you if you don't agree to a
deal that he considers reasonable. And
so Russia's going to fafo. He's going to
secondary sanction the life out of them,
which means that you're sanctioning any
country that does things. So now if
you're China and you do something, you
buy Russian oil that you're not supposed
to, well sanctions on China. So that if
you can get enough like if you got the
whole G7 to do that,
>> yeah,
>> you can do some real damage to Russia.
And then I think if he still doesn't
back down, he will drop. He'll give
weapons right now. He'll give weapons to
the EU. The EU will give them to
Ukraine. But I mean, who we fooling? The
UK is just completed a test for carbon
credits and this Instagram influencer
breaks it down.
>> Check this out.
>> The UK recently completed a carbon
credit system trial that sets a daily
allowance for each person. A little cap
on your ability to travel, purchase
food, clothing, and even heat your home.
All rationed under the guise of saving
the planet. Your daily carbon limit is
capped at 40 kg of CO2 with food
restricted to just 4 kg.
>> Pause it for a second.
>> Okay. So, uh, America's in a fight for
its soul for reasons we've discussed
many times, but the world is in a fight
for its soul from totalitarian control.
That just is real. People believe that
they know best. If I can just get people
to accept that there are elites, as they
call them,
>> we probably need to stop calling them
elites because I think it distracts from
you've got smart, primarily smart people
and some wealthy people. Not that those
are exclusive, but not all of the people
are actually wealthy that are driving
this agenda, just to be very clear.
>> So, you've got very smart people who are
so convinced about their rightness that
they want control. Now, I don't know if
they recognize in themselves the um
envy, the um narcissism, the ugly side
>> or if they are blinded by but I'm right
and that they've been right so often in
their life and they really can outthink
most of the people they encounter.
>> And so life teaches them you're smarter,
you're better, you know better. And for
everyone's sake, they just need to
listen to you. There's something in
humans that really makes them want to
live in a hierarchical society.
Something with classes where dumb people
just get shoved into their rightful
place. And
that is what is happening in the UK
right now. It's absolutely wild. That is
what's happening in the W. It is
absolutely wild. It is totally
dystopian. people will grab power. And
because I just cannot seem to get people
to read history, people don't understand
how dire this becomes.
>> This is a level of absurdity that is
hard to express. First of all, these
people don't know best. They are prone
to making mistakes all the time. And
whatever wisdom they do have will never
be matched by the wisdom that the crowd
has. And on mass,
>> the the masses will always know best. My
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didn't realize that across the gigantic
land mass that is China, you can't plant
the same crops at the same time. And
when local farmers objected, he killed
them and then forced everybody to plant
the same crops at the same time. And
then everyone starved.
>> It's so crazy. And so that's whatever
that thing is inside of the human mind,
we're watching play out. And they've got
the perfect thing that they need about
the
saving the planet to leverage it to get
control. They did it for sure with
COVID. I'm I'm not saying that COVID was
intentional, but never let a good crisis
go to waste. And so it happened. They
used it to gain power. They saw how
compliant people will be when they're
scared. And so they're running the same
playbook. Now, my biggest problem with
what I see here is
they are going to make catastrophic
errors about the
molecules that I can put inside my body
via my diet based on the carbon
footprint. And the reality is they have
no right to do that because some foods
shorten your life so dramatically and
other foods extend your life
dramatically. This is not controversial.
>> They're going to hammer down on red
meat. They're going to hammer down
basically on most animal products would
be my guess. So he uh talks about
cheese. He talks about red meat.
And the thing that they're running right
now, red meat would basically take your
whole day's carbon footprint. So you
wouldn't be able to drive, turn on your
electricity, like you just you had
whatever 8 ounces of red meat. If you
have sugary foods,
um, so sodas, highly processed stuff
that's made from carbohydrate, wheat,
cereal, stuff like that, all of that is
going to be fine. It will be very
inexpensive. And so what's going to
happen is people who are poor that can't
afford whatever allowance they're going
to give you to buy extra carbon credits
or whatever. I'm sure they will. Uh so
poor people are going to be stuck.
They're going to eat the stuff that's
cheap. And then anybody that doesn't
understand
>> and so these are going to be Drew the
same people that don't understand
assets. So now you've got people that
just cannot get on the property ladder.
They're falling farther and farther
behind. And now we're decimating them
and their children with terrible
nutrition and
>> health effects and all those other
things.
>> Oh, dude, it it will be massive and it
will have epigenetic effects. So, uh,
what the mom eats while pregnant for
sure is going to matter. It's almost
certainly true that what both parents
eat before they even try to have a baby
will matter and there'll be some
epigenetic pass along. People can look
that up if they think I'm crazy. That
really does happen. And this is going to
be a never-ending nightmare that further
drives the people that have the
knowledge and the money to get out from
under this and the people that don't.
This this is
>> people trusting themselves run a muck.
People always think they know best.
>> How does this translate to actual food?
Well, according to the report, a packet
of cheese accounts for 1.1 kg of CO2,
over 25% of your daily allowance. Red
meat? Forget it. If you spent your
entire 4 kg allowance on steak, you'd
get around 8 ounces of meat. While meat
and dairy products have the highest
carbon footprints, two slices of bread
would account for just 3% while a can of
Coke just four. So basically, diabetes
is on the menu. But don't worry, Big
Farmer will have you covered because
medications and healthcare products will
not be factored into your daily carbon
dioxide.
>> Dude, this is crazy. the the perverse
incentives that will end up happening
where everything in the system is
incentivized to not notice that red meat
is good for you. Uh carbohydrates and
sugar is bad for you because the drugs
that deal with the chronic illness will
make so much money. And people will look
at it and say, and they'll be right,
these drugs are a modern miracle. So now
you've got we need to save the planet.
What's the problem with what they're
eating anyway? we've got these drugs to
deal with it. Not noticing all of the
knock-on problems and the different ways
that drugs can interact and the fact
that we don't have long-term studies on
a lot of these drugs because they're
new. I am just convinced that GL1
inhibitors or whatever they're called.
Um the ompics of the world that there
are going to be huge negative
ramifications. You you just can't do
that. There's no way. There's no way
that's going to be okay. Uh we'll see.
But um yeah, I can't imagine it. And
this all reminds me of when I was back
at Quest and there was a big initiative
in the US to start labeling food and
they were going to put additional tax on
food that was high in fat and they were
going to force you to put warning labels
on the product. So I was like, "Hold on
a second. I can put sugar and I'm not
going to get a warning label, but if I
put fat, I have to put a warning label."
Dude, I was offended. That was when I
was like, "Okay, I'm legitimately going
to have to start lobbying the government
because this is insane." Mhm.
>> Uh so thankfully that never gained
traction, but this is the kind of thing
that I see gaining steam around the
world.
>> Yeah. It's interesting to me cuz we see
a lot of this state side with like the
sugar tax where places in like I think
San Francisco now, New York City have it
where you know sugary drinks have extra
10-centent search charge or something
like that. Um all these things to combat
climate change when the number one they
say is farting cows but the number two
is fast fashion. So, it's like you're
telling people they can't eat these
things. They have to eat sugary
carbohydrates uh items. But if I'm still
going to H&M and I'm buying 10, 20, $30
worth of clothes, I'm still contributing
to the problem that we're trying to do
it. So, it's just very selective in the
in the prosecution of this. So, it's
it's very interesting how they
>> So, the answer is always always
innovation. It is always innovation. And
when dumb asses think that they can see
the future so clearly that they need to
control this all from the top down, they
end up creating more problems than they
do good. You've got to let the hyper
complexities of the market uh work
themselves out in the market. If you
give people the data and you show them
what's really happening and you don't
lie and you don't spin, you just say,
"Look, this is what it is. Look at the
ozone. We ended up fixing the ozone."
So, it's like if there's really a thing
that we can point to and say, "Okay,
this chemical is a problem." So, if you
want aerosol, you're going to have to do
it without that. Um, so if we are
worried that um
cows or whatever are releasing too much
CO2 into the atmosphere, then put in
incentives for them to solve those
problems. Don't say you can't eat it.
say like, "Hey, look, this is something
that we either want to put tax credits
towards. Uh there are things like the
X-P prize that can um incentivize stuff
like that." But honestly, I think a big
part of this is it's tied to climate
change, which has become
hyperpoliticized. And some very large
percentage of the planet is not
convinced that the problem is what
people say it is. And so this is why
lying and trying to spin in position
ends up backfiring. You just need to be
transparent.
>> But here's where things get terrifying.
They're not just suggesting it, they're
testing it. Food manufacturers are
already slapping carbon labels on their
products. Let's not forget the food
supply chain either. These policies
directly threaten local farmers and
producers as red meat gets penalized
heavily while synthetic lab grown meat
is being propped up as a solution.
>> Now, the problem,
>> yeah, you got a take on lab grown meat.
>> I do have a take on lab grown meat. So,
lab grown meat like anything is we don't
know.
>> We don't know yet if it's effective. We
don't know yet if there are some magical
things that happen to the meat because
it's out eating and grazing. If you
raise a cow feeding it only grain, the
meat is different. The the literal
chemistry of uh the animal itself, like
what's stored in the fat and all that
becomes different. And so, um, if you
don't tell Lisa that the cow was
grain-fed, she'll still know because
grain-fed beef upsets her stomach. So
there is just something like some part
of the digestive system recognizes
whatever the difference is whatever the
I imagine it's stored in the fat but
like whatever is stored in the fat
causes a different kind of reaction. Uh
same with chicken that eats grain versus
if it eats worms and all the things that
it would normally find by roaming around
and pecking. So, um, while I love the
idea of lab grown meat, and I cannot
wait to see long-term studies done to
find out like whether it's fine or not,
um, I don't want to pretend like there
aren't going to be some wild
complexities to that.
>> Yeah. Well, speaking of a crackhead
policy, Hunter Biden had an interview
with Channel 5
>> U and he talked about a myriad of
things. I want to start here because I
just thought this was hilarious. a your
neighborhood convenience store and just
get anyway. I don't want to tell people
how to make co how to make crack
cocaine, but it literally is a manage
jar of cocaine and baking soda.
>> How different is the experience? I don't
want to tell them, but here it is.
>> Vastly, vastly different. And like for
real, I I feel really reluctant to um
kind of have some euphoric discussion. I
know you're not asking me to do that,
but have some euphoric discussion about
crack cocaine.
>> I think this might be kind of the
opposite here.
>> Okay. No, I it's the exact opposite. I'm
saying I don't want to have the
experience of some euphoric recall.
That's how powerful crack cocaine is.
This
>> um so he went from crack cocaine to
talking about George Clooney and some of
the establishment uh Democrats and how
they turned on Joe Biden at the end of
the election.
>> Well, so before we leave the crack
cocaine thing,
>> uh we should play the part where he
starts talking about crack cocaine is
actually cleaner than normal cocaine.
People think it's dirty.
>> Does crack cocaine make you act any
differently? No. Is it safer than
alcohol? Probably. People think of
cracking dirty. It's the exact opposite.
>> I actually don't know to be honest, but
it doesn't look good.
>> And then he went off on establishment
Democrats.
>> Him. [ __ ] him. [ __ ] him and everybody
around him. I don't have to be [ __ ]
nice. Number one, I agree with Quinton
Tarantino. [ __ ] George Clooney is not
a [ __ ] actor. He is a [ __ ] like I
don't know what he is. He he he's a
brand. And by the way, and God bless
him. You know what? He I he supposedly
treats his friends really well. You know
what I mean? Buys them things and he's
got a really great place in Lake Ko and
he's great friends with Barack Obama.
[ __ ] you. What do you have to do with
[ __ ] anything? Why do I have to
[ __ ] listen to you? What right do you
have to step on a man who's given 52
years of his [ __ ] life to the service
of this country and decide that you
George Clooney are going to take out
basically full page ad in the [ __ ]
New York Times to me and James Carville
who hasn't run a race in 40 [ __ ]
years and David Axelrod who had one
success in his political life and that
was Barack Obama and that was because of
Barack Obama not because of [ __ ]
David Axelrod and David Pluff and all of
these guys and the Pod Save America
guys. Uh, I honestly think this is him
trying to become relevant in politics. I
have a feeling that um, dad is still
alive. He's got an opportunity to prove
to dad that look, I can do this. Um, I
can make sure that your name isn't
forgotten, your legacy is not forgotten.
Whether he tries to completely rehab his
image and run, uh, that's a much bigger
question. But
>> he knows that people are going to want
to interview him.
>> So, he's got a microphone. Mhm.
>> If he's got something interesting to
say, I mean, now is the the the age
where it's like you start your show, you
start your podcast, you say the things
that other people aren't willing to say.
He's clearly going in on
>> the Democrats. Like, he's not afraid to
attack his own.
>> And so, it'll be interesting to see if
he's positioning himself as like more of
a um centrist Democrat. I don't know.
It'll be interesting. But this does not
feel like somebody who's completely
unhinged to me. This feels like somebody
who's swearing too much. And this is a
good reminder to me not to use the f
word that frequently. But I don't hear
somebody who's completely unhinged. His
backstory is wild. And so can we elect a
president
who we know smoke crack and we've seen
his dick? Like
I don't know, Drew. uh that he's
insecure about it and that he asks is it
still big like I don't know I don't know
if he's going to be able to come back
from that but uh he could certainly be a
personality in the space so this will be
interesting and uh fathers are powerful
in terms of people wanting to seek their
approval and I think that he has had
such a dark past that if you're watching
dad's light fade and you think all right
this is my shot I'm not going to let
people trample him. I'm not going to let
his um reputation go down without a
fight. And it's actually pretty
interesting because this this will
happen to a lot of politicians. So um
Hamilton had the same problem. And his
wife for years fought and fought and
fought to get a um biography written
about him because she was like, "People
are trying to trash his memory, but what
my husband did is so great." And she was
just like obsessed. And then I think
ultimately it was his son that finally
saw it across the finish line. And
this is a very real thing for him to get
into the political arena at a minimum
try to fight for his dad's legacy and
then as I say ambition grows in the Eden
if he starts getting traction if he
finds that he can post up a show he's
got to make money somehow. So if he can
become part of the political
commentariat ingratiate himself back
into politics I mean he must know
everybody.
>> And so that this is going to be an
interesting arc. I'm uh I'm intrigued.
>> I don't know how much political power he
has though if he's torching the people
that were closest to him, you know, so
it is him starting over. Uh I
>> right now he has absolutely no political
power. But
>> getting in the room with people
oftentimes is enough. And if he's
willing to play because how old is he?
He looks like he's what early 50s?
>> 55 years old.
>> Okay. So he's got 10 15 years on him. 20
years if he's, you know, with Donald
Trump in them. So,
>> I guess, but I kind of hope we move out
of the whole geriatric space. But he
he's got an easy 15 for sure. And so,
even if he's willing to play the game
for five years, like if he's any good at
media,
>> I think he's got a shot. I mean, this is
interesting. Everybody's been talking
about it.
>> So, if he can come out guns blazing,
attack the the people that um are
supposedly unattackable,
I think he could get traction.
>> That's interesting. We'll keep we'll
keep tracking and hopefully he's doing
good in his sobriety and his recovery.
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Freman
Mccron has classified the platform X as
an organized gang, allowing them to
legally wiretap personal devices of ex
employees. X believes that this
investigation is distorting French law
in order to serve a political agenda and
ultimately restrict free speech. For
these reasons, X has not asceded to the
French authorities demands. Um, where do
you think this falls on the free speech
spectrum? Well, every country gets to do
what they want and I have no idea what
the laws are in France. But I will say
from a moral perspective that people
seem to not understand that the reason
free speech is so important is that you
need to be able to think. Writing is
thinking. Speaking is thinking. It's not
like you your ideas are fully formulated
and then you write them down. That's not
how writing works. It's not like your
ideas are fully formulated and then you
speak them out. oftentimes you're
speaking not so that you can be
understood but so that you can
understand. And so when you stop people
from being able to do this, you
literally stop ideas from getting fully
fleshed out. You stop people from being
able to say, "This is what I think and
believe." And then they challenge your
ideas and it makes you sharper. You make
me sharper. My wife makes me sharper.
Critiques that I get online, the right
ones obviously make me sharper. And when
you don't understand that and your
impulse is to silence because you would
rather be in control, you would rather
maintain power, uh then everything goes
off the rails. And this is one of those
things where you just have to understand
how the game works. Like you have to
understand the the macro movements of
culture, uh the way that people are
ultimately with each other. And when you
try to um force them to be silent, it
deranges a culture. And when you allow
them to express and to push and to
fight, yes, you yourself may lose power.
Um, but you get to still be in a
thriving world. And so if we can just
get people to recognize this is just how
the world works, that to get everybody
on the same page, you have to kill
people. And I don't mean that in any
sort of hyperbolic way. I mean that just
humans are so diverse and they have so
many different opinions and some people
feel so strongly that some people just
will not be silenced unless you kill
them. And some ideas are so powerful
that they will catch fire. And so when
an idea undermines power, power has a
decision. You either recognize, oh, I
guess my time is up and now this new
wave, the young bucks are going to come
and and we're just we're done. It's not
our time. And that's always been one of
the great things about America was we
peacefully transferred power. We said,
"My time's over. Okay, I accept it." And
apparently France does not. And so
they're just people just are unhinged
about X. It is so wild to me. And yeah,
anybody that doesn't believe in free
speech is making a critical error at the
like level of psychology of humans on
mass.
>> This seems like a common thread of the
whole I know better. This is why you
should listen to me. Um because free
speech a lot of times is you're it's
okay for free free speech but I don't
want you to say these things. Correct.
And again I'm the one dictating what
those things you're not allowed to say
are.
>> Correct. Uh on my tombstone there should
be two phrases.
>> A you're having a biological experience.
And B stop trusting yourself so much.
Like if everybody recognized those two
things we would be in much better shape.
Much better. But dude, I get the same
impulse that everybody else has that
like I'm right. This is obviously right.
The world would be better if everybody
just listened to me. It's just that I
know I've been wrong so many times
before and felt so right up until I
realized I was wrong that I thought, uh,
okay, I just have to have a default
understanding that you can't be
paralyzed. You can't be like, oh, I
could be wrong. You've got to march
forward, but you've got to march forward
going some part of what I believe right
now is incorrect. Of this I am sure and
the bad news is I don't know which part
I'm wrong about. Uh so it's super
powerful to recognize
that you're wrong about something.
>> Yeah. Well, Medie Hassan was surrounded
by 20 people who sure didn't feel like
they were wrong about
>> Before you play this, did you watch
this?
>> I didn't watch it in full. I just
watched the clips.
>> Like these guys were terrible.
Terrible. And I'm not exactly a big Medi
Hassan guy.
>> Yeah.
>> But these guys were terrible.
>> Yeah. It felt like they were on the
There was a far right and then there was
all the way over there, right? Like it
just it just felt weird. It felt weird.
Um
>> it felt weird and they didn't even have
good arguments.
>> Yeah.
>> Like if you've got a good argument and
you can make me be like, "Oh, maybe
Hitler wasn't so bad." But like the
whole time I'm just like, you're not
actually making an argument. You're
literally just flirting with the devil.
You're literally just like, uh, well, he
was kind of cute. You know what I mean?
I was like, what is happening right now?
>> Crazy. Um, and this guy goes all the
way, I don't believe in the Constitution
and I'm a fascist.
>> This is crazy.
>> Yeah.
>> Quite frankly, if Trump is
anti-constitution, good. And I think he
should go further.
>> So, this is this is wonderfully
revealing the modern conservative
mindset. I appreciate you spelling it
out so openly. Um, just checking, do you
support the Second Amendment?
>> I do.
>> Okay, surprise. I was shocked to hear
that. Um, I'm saying that Donald Trump
is defying the First Amendment, the
Fourth Amendment, the Fifth Amendment,
the 14th Amendment. He's thinking of
defining the 12th and 22nd amendments.
You're saying you don't care about the
Constitution, but actually you do
because you quite like the Second
Amendment. You just don't like the bits
that you disagree with. Can I just be
clear on that?
>> Yeah, absolutely. I'm more than willing
to I'm more than willing to amend it and
>> whenever it's in your favor.
>> Yeah, absolutely.
>> So, can Democrats do the same when
they're in office?
>> No, absolutely not. Because you don't
believe in democracy?
>> No, I don't. Absolutely not.
>> What do you believe in? autocracy.
>> A little bit more than a farright
Republican. Hey, what can I say? I think
you say I'm a fascist. Yeah, I am.
>> Wow,
>> dude. This is uh
>> And then he got fired from his job.
>> Uh
>> and he started GoFundMe.
>> There is something admittedly I don't
like about the You've been working with
him, so you've already been working with
a fascist.
>> You knew he was a fascist. Now other
people know. Now we get the fire.
>> Is that the problem? It's like for me I
think it's people going, "Oh, I don't
like your beliefs, therefore you're
out."
>> If their behaviors are fine,
>> you got to chill on the whole beliefs
thing. This I mean, some of it goes back
to I think that I'm right. I want to be
convincing. I don't necessarily want to
convince everybody. So,
>> this guy should be able to make whatever
case he wants to make for fascism, and
other people should be able to hopefully
smash his arguments into itty bitty
pieces just using cause and effect, nice
simple logic. Um, yeah. Anyway, the the
whole I don't like your beliefs and
therefore I fire you. I'm not a fan of
that.
>> Yeah. And then there was this one that
talked about the uh Palestinian Israel
war.
>> So-called innocent Palestinian. You
don't think Palestinians are innocent?
>> Not all of them. Because
>> what about the 17,000 children were
killed?
>> They're doing the same.
>> 17,000 children were killed. Were they
not innocent?
>> Uh, were they not innocent?
>> Who's responsible for that?
>> Israel dropped the bomb.
>> Hamas is responsible. Hamas is
responsible for hiding in hospitals and
and banking tunnels underneath. when
children are shot in the head by Israeli
snipers. Israeli snipers not responsible
for that.
>> Look, it's a simple question. When
Israeli snipers shoot Palestinian
children in Gaza in the head, as
eyewitness testimony and doctor's
testimony proves, that's not the fault
of the Israeli snipers.
>> This is this is the problem because then
you have a problem. The
>> problem is you won't answer the
question. I'll ask you a third time.
When Israeli snipers shoot Palestinian
children in the head, is that not the
fault of Israeli snipers?
>> Well, you got to let me finish.
>> No, you got to answer the question
fourth time. when Israeli snipers
Palestinian children in their head.
We're running out of time. I need to
know what you think about these
>> guys. They're not good debaters.
>> Now, are they not good debaters? Because
as you go that far out on the right,
it's all emotion and there actually is
no logic and so they feel something very
strongly, but they don't have an argu
like there's it's not like they have an
argument in their head and they're just
not representing it well. They don't
have an argument in their head. They
feel a thing and they're trying to
convey their emotion to you. That's the
only thing that I could make make sense
while I was watching this because yeah,
the ape tax survivor. Where the [ __ ] is
Jubilee finding these guys? That guy
literally looks like he's out of the
cartoon spy versus spy. So, I'm not sure
what's going on there.
>> Somebody said he looked like Waluigi
Mangiote. I thought that was hilarious.
I love that. Like, where did they find a
Waluigi?
>> Where?
>> No way. They found Waluigi Man. That is
probably my favorite one.
>> That's good.
>> Um,
>> admittedly.
>> Yeah. No, I agree. I I have seen the
Kanis Owens one. I've seen ones
previously where even the the the hot
seat person is like, "Oh, hm, you got
me." Or, "Okay, let me" They at least
have to retool their argument, but it
seemed like this was 70% trolling, 20%
dunking on immigrants. Like, I just
don't understand what they were trying.
>> They were winning each other over
though. That was the weird part. So,
like they would clap for I don't like
the Constitution. Clap clap clap clap.
It's like, whoa. Okay. Uh
yeah, this one was weird. I want to see
that same debate. I want to see if there
are real arguments on the far right. I'd
be curious to see I don't know enough
about Nick Fuentes, but I'd be curious
to see if he's is he far right like
that.
>> Yeah.
>> So, I'd be curious to see if he's
actually articulate and can argue
something or if he too is just
emotionbased, but I did not find that
one compelling at all. Um and then in AI
news, um Elon Musk tweeted the uh XAI
goal is 50 million in units of H 100
equivalent AI compute but much better
power efficiency within online within 5
years. And then he also recently
retweeted uh interview Nvidia CEO Jensen
Wong did about Elon Musk scale and he uh
retweeted it. 230,000 GPUs including
30,000 GB200s are operational for
training Grock XAI in a single
supercluster called Colossus 1.
Interference is done by our cloud
providers. At Colossus 2, the first
batch of 550,000 GPU 200s and GP300s
also for training start going online in
a few weeks. As uh Jensen Wong has
stated, XAI is unmatched in speed. It's
not even close. It just seems like the
scale of this thing has just been
>> Okay, there's two there's two things to
talk about. 50 million ants would be a
lot.
50 million GPUs is
wild. Like
um how how do you walk them into the
room? Like 50 million anything is so
many things. So, I mean, that one is
like almost hard to get your head around
in terms of the scope and scale of this
is so massive. So, there's that. This if
people are still underestimating AI,
stop immediately. This is unreal. Like,
we're getting to the point where they're
using so many GPUs, it's like neurons in
the brain.
>> Crazy.
>> So, yeah, this is uh completely insane.
And if 50 million is what we're doing in
five years, what are we doing in 25
years? So yeah, I mean this is um AI is
going to terraform our planet. It's
going to terraform human psychology. It
is going to change everything we've ever
known. It is already moving at a rate
the three times doubling in a year seems
about right. That is a truly expon your
your doubling rate is less than a year.
Okay. Exponential just means that um 3x
like if you're at one and then you 3x
that you're at three. If you 3x that,
you're at nine, right? So, it's when
you're maintaining that 3x 3x 3x 3x, uh,
it's unbelievable like getting bigger,
but the fact that the doubling is
happening in less than years is crazy.
So, is every time I talk about AI, every
now and then I'll be like, maybe I'm
overhyping it a little bit. and then
I'll see an announcement like this or
I'll start working with the agents on um
chat GPT and you're just like oh no this
really is still moving forward fast and
it continues to change my behavior.
That's the part like I I've only written
I mean how many deep dives have I
written? 10.
>> 10.
>> So I've written 10 deep dives. I'm
writing them differently now for the
third time from where I started just
because AI is updating that fast
>> in 10 weeks. Yeah.
>> So, it's oh man, it's uh it's
incredible. Okay, so that's the first
part of this. The second part of this is
I cannot believe that there are people
that are still um against Elon. Like
even if you hate his politics, what he's
able to do in business will be studied
for decades. It is unbelievable. I
guarantee we are not getting the full
picture of what it's like to be around
him right now.
>> I constantly remind myself of the story
of him cutting the bolts off the um
servers in the ex server farm because he
wanted to move them somewhere else and
they were like, "Sorry, we don't have
the wrench to like undo them. We're
going to need like the weekend or
whatever." And this is like midnight on
a Saturday or something. He's like,
"Nope." And he just and shaved the bolts
and they loaded up the um servers and
took them. It's that kind of maniacal
adherence to his goals like I will stop
at nothing. Now whether he stops at
ethics I I won't say I just don't know.
>> But the fact that he is able to push
things forward this rapidly is
unbelievable is we have to commend it.
it. Dude,
I want to get this much done in my life.
And honestly, as an entrepreneur, I find
myself routinely saying, "Okay, if I had
to accomplish what he's accomplishing,
what would I have to do?" And the
answers you start coming up with free
your mind from the limitations of the
way that you normally think. It's just
so absurd. Like to think that you're
going to do 50 million units in five
years. Like if you just run the math of
like how many people would have to like
go in and go out like you you'd have to
start mapping the walking speed from
wherever they unload to how like you get
them plugged in and then to wire
everything and then to eliminate all the
interference. Jeez,
>> it is bananas. All while getting us to
Mars. All while turning us into cyborgs.
All while digging tunnels. All while
building robots. all while building
cars. It's like what? So, uh, I want to
see people aspire to do ambitious things
in their own life. And so, for him to be
one of the most hated men on the planet
is really heartbreaking.
>> Yeah. Where do you stand on like the
Mike Row argument of it all? I seen him
talk recently with Charlie Kirk and he
was saying that like while 40% of AI
jobs are going to disappear, a majority
of those are white collar and there's
going to be like a blue collar. bro just
really wants to look stupid in 5 years.
Every time he talks, I'm like, "Mike,
don't do it to yourself. Mike, don't
give him the clips." They're going to
play this on a loop, bro.
>> So, you think in 5 years we're going to
have robotics?
>> Obviously.
Obviously. Like, what is he thinking? He
needs to go to a robotics factory and
see how advanced this stuff is.
>> If you're not going to give me five
years, seven, like, and it won't be
binary. There's just going to be more
and more and more. I don't know if you
saw the recent massage robot has like
nine degrees of articulation.
Unbelievable. Uh obviously you've
already got Optimus robots serving
popcorn. You've got uh these really
lightweight house robots now that are
humanoid that can walk around, open the
fridge, all this stuff. Dude, it's it's
already crazy in 2025.
>> In 2030, in 2035, dude, there's going to
be robots as far as the eye can see. I
will be legitimately surprised if by
2027 you and I don't have a robot
sitting with us as part of the show.
>> They're going to be 20 grand in months
if they're not already and you just
Yeah, I'll take one. Like if they had
better AI, like that's the thing I'm
waiting to catch up. I want them to have
a face so they can express emotion then
cartoon face ideally.
>> Uh then you really have something. So
yeah, every time I hear micro talk I'm
just like, "Okay, I mean I get it. I'm
sure I'm saying things right now that 5
years from now people be like ah and
laughing their faces off at uh things
that I think are true, but he's going to
look silly.
>> What would you say then to, you know,
the 21-year-old, 22-year-old who's
graduating college? And I know it's like
learn chat GBT, but like that that I
mean, I can't I can search a bunch of
stuff on there. I can have it build me
75% made done apps, but what should I
practically look for? Like how what
northstar should they have? It is all
tools are being built for you
>> that allow you to do things that were
previously unimaginable.
And so what I'm doing, I'm building
Ready Player One. I'm going to build uh
a virtual world. Not thinking VR maybe,
but I think more just normal gaming plus
probably AR. But anyway, build a game
that is so expansive
um that you could spend the rest of your
life playing that game. And because it's
based on a set of rules, um you could
set something in motion when you're 8
years old and then revisit it when
you're 35 and be like, "Yo, that's
crazy." Because it will have kept
evolving.
>> So, um I wouldn't be able to do that
without AI. Now, the AI that I can use
today has made things a lot cheaper.
It's made things faster, but it's I'm
expecting, you know, three, five years
from now where this is like, "Oh, wow. I
can really do some incredible stuff. And
again, going back to XAI, some of the
stuff they're doing in gaming feels like
three years of progress in six months.
>> Mhm.
>> So, let them keep cooking. If they keep
building models bigger and bigger, um,
then everybody's going to have access to
tools that are more and more powerful.
But that's how people should think of
it. This tool now allows me to do a
thing that would have cost me
$100,000,500
millions of dollars, whatever, and I can
now do it for $300 a month. Like, that
is an extraordinary trade. And I
understand people are panicking because
it is unnerving when the world you
thought you were going to live in just
you realize is not going to be the
thing. Um,
but if you think of it as a tool that
allows you to almost have a magic wand,
I mean, it is really incredible the
things that we're going to be able to
do. I'm talking like gene edit. Um,
my skin is losing elasticity.
Dear AI, fix it. Look at my genome. Look
at the exact skin cells. What's my
problem? Oh, your problem is exactly
this. Take these supplements or do this
gene therapy or whatever. That's all
going to happen. Um, you're going to be
able to take the DNA from your parents,
look at the epigenetic uh information,
like figure out what does that predict
about me? You're going to be able to run
like simulations on yourself about
aging, possible tumors. I mean, uh,
they're already they've been able to
turn tumors into pork. Yes, I said that
correctly. Turn a tumor inside your body
into pork. So, your own immune system
will attack it. So, dude, like, think of
all the things we're not thinking of.
Every time there's been a radical
technological advancement, we don't lose
jobs. They just change. It's devastating
for the people that live through the
change. So, I get it. I get the anxiety,
but it unlocks things for humanity that
are unbelievable.
>> Nice. That's all I got.
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