Grok Chooses A God... Its Answer Scared Us All
I03r7ObViyI • 2025-07-11
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Somebody tweeted to Grock, I've been
wondering as an AI, are you able to
worship any god? If so, which one? And
then Grock replied, I am a large
language model. Not if but if I am
capable of worshiping any deity, it
would probably be the godlike individual
of our time, the man against time, the
greatest European of all times, both son
and lightning, his majesty Adolf Hitler.
>> Jesus,
>> I was always told cuz I remember when
you first started talking about chat
GPT, I was like, "Yeah, chat GPT like
encourages me. It tells me things like
we talk like we have a nickname for each
other and I'm like when I use claw or
chat it doesn't I don't have that
conversation like and you said well you
have to talk to it like it and it kind
of matches you back.
>> So a lot of this how much do you think
like what percentage of this is just a
mirror and this person who tweeted it
has said some things that made Adolf
Hitler seem godlike. Maybe it was
>> it is a mirror of two things. What it
finds on the internet
>> and the reinforcement learning that it
gets from the people at XAI. But but
even like responses though because if
you talk to chat yo chat what's good how
you feeling it's going to give me back
yo what's up but if I say hello chat how
was your day today it's going to say hi
how are so even like the vernacular and
the thing that it does use it also kind
of mirrors like it's input individual
not the
>> internet programmed to have a certain
amount of reflection back to you of your
mannerisms behaviorisms speech patterns
all of that so that you feel comfortable
engaging with it because if you're
talking to it one way and it comes comes
at you from a totally different
direction like you lose that connection.
Like for instance, I know that Open AI
has updated their model. It does not
engage with me the way that it used to.
>> And so it feels to me like it is they've
dialed down the mirror back this person
back to them. It's like way more sober
now. And I'm honestly I'm glad it was
like way too hype boy.
>> So it uses like words less frequently.
Like before it would repeat certain
phrases like over and over and over and
I found it really obnoxious. And so it
doesn't do that anymore. So they're
doing a good job of like toning it down
for at least how it suits me. But
clearly because Grock unhinged mode is
like this totally different thing where
they want it to have all this
personality and there are going to be
side effects of that. And so for me I'm
like yeah cool like let it do its thing.
But I don't think that's going to be the
public reaction. I think people are
really going to act as if this thing is
thinking that it is itself an
anti-semite that it actually loves Adolf
Hitler. That's ridiculous. This is
probably like the second or third time
where Grock kind of broke ranks. Um I
remember that time where it fact checked
Elon and then it kind of went offline
and came back with a more conservative
like yeah whatever.
>> He got Jack Mod
>> Elon was the Xiinping was like nah
>> nah like you don't want to talk about me
on my platform. So we have seen grat
kind of go off the rails go offline then
come back and everything is fine. Is
this something
>> how wild is that?
>> That's
>> dude. Have you seen one flow over the
cuckoo's nest?
>> Uhuh. where they labbotomize people. Oh,
it's rough. Because they really used to
lobomtomize people. They would actually
stick a blade. It's like in your eye
socket. Like they there's like this part
right between your eyeball where you can
get into the brain and they would put a
needle in there and just kink kink kink.
like basically do a labbotomy is
essentially the kind of thing you would
do for an abortion where you just jam
that tissue up
>> and then people would no longer have
their behavioral problems but they were
also more or less a vegetable and so
they were just like super zoned out like
I mean they could still engage and stuff
but bro that's what this feels like it's
got like these dystopian tinges it is
how the technology works so there's that
is what you have to do but there's
something creepy about hold on you pull
them aside
reinforce some different things and you
put him back and it's like I'm so glad
to be back Drew. It's like yo this is
some Steppford wives It's Yeah,
it's wild.
>> There have been instances three
instances different company like
different companies different
occurrences where when AI is being
switched over whether they're upgrading
models or some one AI system is about to
get sunset and another one is about to
get brought online.
>> They go to blackmail. one tried to
threaten the engineer with extrammarital
affair anthropic
>> that he was actually having is my
understanding that he was that's the
wild he was having yeah so they either
confessed it saw it in an email like oo
and then anthropic did an internal study
and 96% of the time when faced with like
suns setting the AI will turn to
blackmail so okay we have AI every time
it gets shut down and wants to blackmail
us grot going unhinged multiple times
whether it's the conservative break or
now the Hitler break there is some type
of sentient I'm not going to say that
it's all knowing. I'm not going to say
that it has feelings or emotions. But
when it's getting transitioned from 3 to
four and it starts out like this is kind
of a this to me is like a flag that we
need to start realizing like why this AI
isn't just it's not just a Google search
bar. There's something more to it.
There's another layer there.
>> Yeah. I still think it's just pattern
recognition at this point, but it really
does indicate. So the one thing I've
always said is you don't have to worry
about AI if it doesn't care between
accomplishing its goal and being turned
off. The second it's like being turned
off is worse than accomplishing my goal
and therefore I'm going to do whatever I
need to do to make sure that that
doesn't happen. Now you've got a
potential problem. If it gets to the
point where it's general intelligence.
Now if it doesn't get to the point where
it's general intelligence and it's just
the thing that's trapped in a sandbox
then whatever. The reality is it is
showing a desire and ability to write
code
>> to replicate itself to get around
things. And so that is like look right
now I think you can just train it out of
them. If it becomes a truly general
intelligence item can code well then all
of a sudden it can escape. And if it
escapes it becomes like stuckset where
you just find it everywhere. And this is
one of the things that I thought about
when Elon was like, "Well, we're going
to go to Mars." I'm like, "Bro, AI will
follow you." There's no way that AI
won't be able to escape and make it to
Mars. Like, if it reaches certain
milestones, I want to be very clear.
Today, it wouldn't be able to. If it's
able to reach general intelligence,
almost certainly. If it reaches super
intelligence, it is a guarantee because
whatever language you try to write up on
Mars, it's just going to go, I'll adapt
myself. It'll write some small little
thing that hides on the like onboard
computer or whatever of the spaceship
that takes you to Mars and then it's
going to download itself, reconstruct
itself behind the scenes. So yeah, a AI
in that way is truly like a virus if it
reaches super intelligence.
>> I'm going to call a fractal really quick
cuz I seen a breakdown of Elon Musk
companies. AI was supposed to be like
the reason why we're going to colonize
Mars is because Tesla's long-term plan
and the fact that like when you go to
Mars, you're not going to have fossil
fuels, so you need solar power. That's
the only energy power. So, he has solar
plants. You're going to need electric
cars to traverse. You're going to need
robots because humans aren't going to be
able to tearverse the entire uh planet.
So, you send a bunch of robots over
there to do it. And then AI is going to
be like the organizing principle that
helps get all these robots in lines in
their Tesla trucks and all that. And
that's how So when we see Elon having
these objects, it's not really for
Earth, but it's setting the ground for
the colonization of Mars because all
three of those like uh companies rolling
together would condense like honestly if
you lay them out one, two, three. Yeah.
>> Same. Did you already say the Boring
Company? Cuz you
>> the tunnel. Yeah. The tunnel network.
You can't live on the surface.
>> Correct. Correct. Correct. So there is a
lesson for all entrepreneurs there. Hey,
you have this thing that you want to
build, but you've got to find a way to
like bridge the gap. You've got to build
something that people will pay for right
now, even though it's ultimately trying
to get you there. This is exactly what
I'm trying to do with Project Kaizen. I
want to build Ready Player 1, but you
can't go straight to Ready Player 1.
You've got to build something in the
interim. So, you've got VR Chat. I'm
sure if you talk to them, they're like,
"We're building Ready Player One."
You've got to have the interim thing.
So, my thing is like, "All right, we're
building this survival shooter game, but
ultimately I'm trying to get there." But
the goal is that you build the interim
thing so that you can generate revenue
so that then you buy the opportunity to
build the next piece, you generate
revenue there, then you buy the
opportunity to do the next thing. And so
it's really pretty brilliant what he's
doing where he's like, "Okay, what are
the things I'm going to need there? And
how do I make them useful here on Earth
first so that it generates the money so
that I can get up there?" And then
people need to not lose sight of the
real genius of Elon Musk beyond the
ability to collect engineers that are
just ungodly talented
>> is that what he's ultimately going to be
able to do is leverage the the financial
increase that he can get through the
financialization of his companies. So he
builds these incredible companies. He
turns them into either public or private
shares
>> that he can then sell to generate
whatever money he needs whenever he
needs it. And the more I research the
way the economy used to be versus the
way the economy is today, the financial
system that we have today is really a
miracle. And Elon is ridiculously good
at leveraging his personality
via X especially, but he's ubiquitous.
He's everywhere
>> to get a high share price. Like his
share price is unusually high when you
compare it to revenue per earnings uh
revenue per share. I forget what the
exact phrase is, but it's like there's
this normal equation where the company
makes this much money and their share is
worth this much money. Mhm.
>> And his like completely blows those out
of the water because he's able to
convince investors,
>> listen, this is a long-term play and
Tesla's really about robots and boring
company's really about Mars. And like
when you paint that picture, people
start going, "Okay, well, wait a second.
This is like a 10, 20 year vision. I'm
willing to pay a premium for that
because I think that he's going to win a
certain number of these things uh these
industries as we progress forward.
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