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It seems like this is an opportune time
for us to take out Iran and we have the
plan with the bomb. Why do you think
there is that hesitation now from Trump?
Because this [ __ ] is so complicated.
Like if you are not hesitant, you are a
fool. Being thoughtful is smart. Trying
to map out all the different
consequences is smart. Uh that's
certainly what he's messaging. I don't
see any reason to believe that that's
not what he's doing. He wants to have a
sense of okay, if we hit this and it
fails, like what happens? They're going
to strike our bases. How many U
ballistic missile uh launchers do they
have that we would need to take out?
Because if we drop something on Fordo
and we ourselves are flying the plane,
they're going to attack our bases. So,
have we cleared them? Do we have the
ability to defend them? Are there other
things that we have to do? I can pretty
much guarantee that he's got people in
his ear being like, "Listen, we're going
to do these four things and there's
going to be a natural uprising in the
country, but we need something like the
bunker buster bomb to trigger that." And
so then he's like, "God, do I really
believe that that's going to happen?" So
he's said publicly that I want to delay
the decision until the absolute last
minute. Meaning, of all things, like if
I've got a decision to make and I know
that I have to make it by noon on the
27th, I'm going to wait till 11:57 to
make my decision. And to be honest, this
is a conversation that I've had with my
wife a gazillion times because she will
go after something right then in the
moment. It's on her mind. And I'm like,
"That was the worst time to address that
thing." like you know you have two weeks
to deal with it. Wait for that
opportunity to present itself. You never
know what might happen. The [ __ ]
supreme leader could have a stroke and
if you had just waited like you know
whatever. So when you have time and you
give yourself the ability to one map all
of the different things that could
happen and then two just buy time for an
opportunity to present itself. I think
you're in a much better situation. So
that's my gut is what he's doing. You
support the US supporting Israel, but is
there a monetary cap on that? Because
there was a time where like, hey, we're
just going to find some terrorists.
We'll be in Afghanistan six weeks tops.
Cut to 20 years later, $8 trillion,
things like that. Like, is there a limit
where it's like, all right, guys, like
you guys kind of have to wrap it up or
do you think I just don't want us to say
we support Israel, it becomes a forever
war, and forever war is code for we are
now funding this thing for the next 10
years. Yeah. Well, first of all, I don't
support us funding the war. That is for
sure. And I don't think Israel is asking
for that. The US should not be writing
blank checks. I literally just said like
seven minutes ago, I don't do blank
checks. There's no blank checks. There's
no just like, hey, go do whatever you
want for as long as you want. It really
comes down to how people feel about
you've got the parliament
of Iran chanting death to America. Hey,
no big deal. They can't attack America.
Well, except for the fact that they have
two programs running. They have a
ballistic missile program that cannot
yet reach America yet, but it certainly
can reach our bases. And by the way, you
only need 3% enrich your or 3.7 whatever
percent enriched uranium. Dude, they're
north of 60.
This is not like, oh [ __ ] we overshot.
Like, sorry, we were just trying to get
to nine. Dude, they're like, some people
say that they have 87%
enriched uranium. I won't even ask you
to believe that, which by the way, you
only need 90% to have a nuclear weapon,
but I don't think anybody argues that
they're north of 60. So, it's like, what
do you think they're doing? They are
building nuclear weapons. Now, are they
just trying to get a nuclear deterrent
so that they can be like, "Hey, listen.
Look at the uranium now. You know, we
can do it. Everybody back the [ __ ] up."
This comes down to what people believe
about that base assumption. If you're
like, I'm cool with a nuclear armed Iran
because Drew, they would never continue
developing ballistic missiles and be
able to reach other places even though
in the [ __ ] parliament they're
chanting death to America. I don't know
why people don't find that distressing.
We could overstep this. There's no
doubt. And in overstepping it, we would
have acted foolishly, obviously. Yeah.
So, this needs to be well thought out.
We should not be rushing in to drop
bombs. Run the thought experiment.
Do we want peace in the Middle East?
Yes. Do we want trade with the Middle
East? Yes. Do we want to see the Middle
East, every country, because many of
them already do, but every country to
think, what is good for my kids and my
kids' kids here on Earth right now today
economically? Do we want to see them
educating their children? boys and
girls. Do we want to see them build
beautiful, incredible things through
internal cooperation and external
cooperation should they find themselves
so inclined. I hope everybody says yes,
but those are Western values. That's me
100% painting my value system onto other
people. If they don't want that and they
think that America represents an
existential threat to their way of life
and therefore they are going to nuclear
arm now it comes down to you have to
deter that. That's how I map it. And so
I'm like look I'd love to stay the [ __ ]
out of Iran. I'd love to never have to
think about them or to think of them as
an ally and have nothing but love for
them. Literally that would be amazing.
And I like I think most people really
want to believe that the people of Iran
want that. I look at history and I see
when people think God told them to do a
thing, people will do that [ __ ]
thing. I'm telling you, the next 20
years, you're going to see a whole lot
of videos of Muslims in America
saying things like, and I can show you
videos right now, saying things like,
"Remember when Christians came to the
Muslim world and started building
churches and tried to take over?" No,
we're going to do the same thing here.
You're going to be in a values battle,
boys and girls. So, brace yourself for
that. So, anyway, that's uh that's where
I'm at today. My thinking is always
willing to be updated. The next question
in terms of uh orienting to what people
believe is do you worry about Iran
having nuclear capabilities? Do you
believe that a nuclear armed Iran is
just made the world better or worse? Now
if we believe that it makes the world
worse,
we share that belief.
Now, dropping a bomb becomes a question
of beliefs and values. The belief in
what good would it do? Maybe it leads to
all hell breaking loose. And that's why
I think Victor Davis Hansen is such an
important voice. You can tell he's
excited. You can tell he wants that what
he calls a revolutionary new Middle
East, meaning that there is peace in the
Middle East for the first time in God
knows how long. But he knows that this
could all go wrong. And this could all
go wrong and we have to be unbelievably
careful about how we move forward. But
if you believe that Iran getting nuclear
armed is dangerous, which is what I
believe, you start asking, okay, well,
if you believe that that's worse for the
world, it's worse for the Middle East,
it's worse for the globe because it will
lead to nuclear proliferation. I believe
it was Saudi Arabia that said, we do not
want Iran to get nuclear weapons, but if
they do, we will race to get our own.
You can imagine there's going to be a
knock on effect. There's going to be a
whole bunch of people that do that. Now,
I get it if people don't want any
country in the world to have nuclear
weapons. That makes two of us. Boy, do I
wish they'd never been invented. But the
reality is that they have and so we live
in that world. The question I would
encourage everybody to ask themselves is
if Iran gets a nuclear weapon, do you
think they will continue to develop
their ballistic capabilities such that
they could reach America? Now, it's my
understanding that they've already
stated that they would do that. Now,
maybe I'm wrong about that. I admittedly
would not be able to tell you who said
that. So, it's one of those like I've
heard in articles or somebody's tweet or
whatever. So, I don't believe strongly
in that um that it has been said. I do
currently map them given the flag
burning and the death to America chance
and all that uh that they would. The
hard thing that all of us have to ask
ourselves is eventually your beliefs and
values become a thing that you do. Now
that thing that you do may be sitting
and waiting. Mhm. And hey, I am very
open to hearing their best argument.
Some people are going to say don't be
preemptive. You have to wait until they
launch a nuke at us. If they launch a
nuke, then you strike back, but you
don't do anything till then. Or they may
say, "Okay, listen. You don't wait till
they launch the nuke because then it's a
little bit late, but you need to wait
until they've done a nuclear test. So,
you know, this is not theoretical. They
actually have a nuclear weapon and
you've seen proof that they have the
ballistic capabilities to reach the US
and you have either public information
or just unimpeachable
intelligence that they plan to put those
two things together and launch it at the
United States. and then and only then do
you strike.
Those are very they have in internal
logic. I can track what their belief
system is. I can see how they map to it
and then we can agree or disagree about
at what stage we do this at. Iran was
not on my mind at all. This feels very
opportunistic for me. And so it's like,
okay, now we are in the situation that
we're in and given that Israel has made
the moves that they've made and they've
basically, not basically, they have
gained air superiority, how far do you
push Iran's military capabilities back.
International law does not require
waiting until you are attacked as long
as there's credible evidence of an
imminent threat. That's the part that
we're debating right now. That's
international law which reveals a belief
or a value system depending on how they
intend it that one should adhere to
international law. Okay. So we're going
to do this by the book. Then it becomes
who's going to adjudicate that because
Israel is saying that is what we did. We
we have the credible information but
then people go don't believe you. With
Iran, they did it. But I think again,
Israel has burned all of its goodwill
with the dead babies attacking
hospitals. I I've seen I saw drone
footage of them waiting for a Iranian
official. He was sitting in traffic,
left traffic, was going off of like the
offramp, and then they stroked the like
they waited until he was uh droned him,
blew up the vehicle, no casualties. It
was a very precise strike. And then you
go to Gaza and they're like, "Yeah, all
that over there. What are we bombing?"
Just all that in that side. like so yeah
that that area so it it's I can
understand why people are saying Israel
is just war happy because on one side it
doesn't seem like there's any precision
and I I get it allegedly Hamas is hiding
in hospital beds next to patients and
doctors but then you go to Iran and
they're like no we had this report this
report we did it at six o'clock they
have all their paperwork right you know
what I mean so I think that there's a
little bit of a hypocrisy happening
right there that on in one hypocrisy I
think you map both along lines that
sound something like this. Dear world,
we will use the minimum force necessary,
but this [ __ ] is like real sort of
blocky lines. There's no gray area. So,
uh, you punch through our fences, you
grab some hostages, you build tunnels.
We will escalate
so violently that you will wish that you
had your leadership in like specific
apartment complexes so we could just
kill the you know whatever the 12
nuclear scientists plus the 13 generals
or whatever. You will pray that that was
the situation that you're in. But if you
hide things in hospitals, under baby's
cribs, then everyone dies. With that
statement, you will understand
everything you're seeing. They'll be
precise if that is the setup, and
they'll [ __ ] carpet bomb if that's
the setup. So again, I'm not justifying
it. I'm just telling you that's what's
happening. I don't I don't I wouldn't
say it's hypocrisy. Now, I would say
it's grotesque. I would say it's
disgusting.