Israel vs Iran And Hamas: The Part Of The Conflict No One Is Talking About.
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The Israel Iran conflict is heating up.
US involvement seems imminent. Trump
dips out of the G7 early, presumably to
plan Iran's strategy. Both US and Israel
claim Israel has total air superiority
over Iran at this point. Iran promises a
surprise tonight that will be remembered
for centuries. The exiled Shaw of Iran
addresses the Iranian people directly
and the FBI and IRS are promising to
track down whoever is funding the LA
riots. Drew, I would make a wise crack
right about now, but this is getting
pretty crazy. I stopped myself from
saying in the intro that the Israel Iran
mashup is uh going nuclear, but I
couldn't stop myself from saying it now.
So, there we have it. But this is uh
this is unnerving to say the least. So,
to level set, it started over the
weekend. Um it started a long time
before that.
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I I don't even know where like the start
was cuz I'll be honest, I seen Israel
fire first and then I kind of jumped
off. I'm just amazed how in real time
we're seeing the entire world turn on
Israel. And I think that with October
7th, the Hamas conflict, we can
understand that. We can rationalize
that. We can get back to it. But now to
start another war with Iran because of
nuclear weapons that Tulsi Gabbard said
we don't have, it's giving me weapons of
mass destruction 2.0. I don't know.
Interesting. Uh, okay. Well, we'll get
to that in a minute, but first, so you
hit me with a curveball there. The we're
watching the whole world turn against
Israel in real time. That feels like
that happened before. Uh, so over the
last few months longer, yeah, it's
really watching the rise of
anti-semitism again has been really
terrifying. Um, it's just such a crazy
loop in history. But yes, I think that
Israel way overplayed their hand in
Gaza. the they had completely lost the
support of even some of their most
diehard people. Uh but them going after
Iran does not surprise me. Uh the one
thing I will say that I'm impressed, I
don't know if that's the right word, but
even though they have completely lost
the backing of the international
community, I guess apparently other than
the US, like we'll get to that obviously
in a second, but um all of the popular
support draining out of Israel uh for
what they were doing in Gaza, clearly
ethnic cleansing from my read, uh
possibly spilling over into even more
sinister territory.
But despite all of that, continuing to
push into Iran to finish the sort of
threeprong job as far as I can tell. So,
um, dealing with the, um, dealing with
everything that was going on in Gaza
with Hamas, uh, dealing with the people
in the north, I cannot believe I'm
blanking on their name. Hezbollah.
Hezbollah. Thank you. Um, dealing with
Hezbollah in the north, and then going
after Iran, the head of the octopus, as
they call it. And
I saw an interview with Bennett, the
former prime minister of Israel, I
believe, who was prime minister right
before Netanyahu, but somebody will need
to fact check me on that. And he was
like, "Listen, I've been a huge critic
of Netanyahu. Think he's terrible, but
on this, all Israelis are behind him in
terms of going after the head of the
octopus." And I think he was the one
that coined that phrase that like all of
this terror that's happening to Israel
across the Middle East is all coming
from Iran. And that while there will be
countries that will condemn Israel for
going after Iran secretly, they're all
going to be saying thank you because
nobody wants Iran to have nuclear
weapons. And I mean, look, that'll play
out in the fullness of time. But I will
say other than a couple like strongly
worded letters, like nobody in the
Middle East is squawking. Uh it's my
understanding that Syria is even
allowing Israel to use their airspace in
order to get to Iran. So this feels like
one where despite how grotesque Israel
is looking as they continue to pummel
Gaza, people feel differently now that
they're going after Iran. Like the tone
shift has been dramatic. And so that's
interesting. And I don't know if it's
just the oppressor oppressed thing was
so
clear in the when Israel was going after
Gaza that it just looked grotesque. Uh,
and now people don't run the same moral
calculus when they're going after Iran.
If people believe that there really are
Iranian nuclear weapons, that's going to
be fascinating to parse as we go deeper
into this. But the Trump camp now
splitting over Trump's embrace of this
is fascinating. And that's where I was
going to go next. To be clear, I we will
be critical of Israel in this video, but
I do want to separate that from
anti-semitism. That's no excuse to do
any hate violence to Jewish people,
anything like that. But we can still
criticize the government just like we
criticize Trump and Biden and all those
things like that. To me, it seems that
what Israel is fighting in this specific
instance, stopping Iran from becoming a
nuclear power, trying to destabilize the
nuclear program and to stop the head of
the octopus, because Iran seems to kind
of be this hub for other terrorist
organizations. Um, I understand on paper
why they're going to do it, but I'm also
being skeptical of what Israel is
telling me the reasons because of what
we just seen in Gaza and Palestine and
things like that. So to the people that
are looking at it, just from a
scoreboard perspective, Israel is not in
the same um restrictions that Iranas
have due to the sanctions and things
like that. So then we don't even have an
accurate report of what the Isra the
Israeli nuclear program looks like
versus we know exactly how c how much
centrifuge they have how enriched it is
to a percent on the Iran side. Is there
a little bit of hypocrisy that Israel
who has been acting like a war criminal
in Gaza has kind of this free reign to
bully other people about their nuclear
programs even though they might be doing
the same thing in their own country?
It's a really interesting question and I
promise dear listeners that we didn't um
talk about this beforehand but as I was
doing research on this the one thing
that you just step back and look at and
go okay I've said many times and it's a
very famous quote the strong will do as
they will and the weak will suffer as
they must uh and you just take that
sideways glance back at us for a second
you realize uh oh like we're the strong
who will do as they will and admittedly
and this this is a level of bias that is
so pervasive in my mind that I would
have a very hard time stepping outside
of it. Democracy, though wildly
imperfect ours is, still feels like the
only government I would want to live
under. And listen, you need do nothing
more than watch the deep dives that I
write to see that I have deep and
fundamental problems with the way that I
think our government steals from us. But
to make the point very clear, democracy
to me is the right answer. The west is
the right answer. I think that it has
the moral high ground. It does not have
moral perfection. Let me be very clear.
But we have the moral high ground. So
I'm glad that we are the most powerful,
but at the same time to your point, when
you are the most powerful, there aren't
checks and balances on you that there
are on other people. And it is not lost
on me that America is the only country
to actually drop a nuclear weapon. Make
that too. Uh so
I cling to things like well we could
have put the world under our thumb after
World War II and we were the only ones
that had a nuclear weapon and we didn't.
And so that makes me feel very good. The
fact that we helped rebuild people that
had been our um staunch enemies and that
makes me feel tremendously good. Right.
So, I feel like we've done things to
earn some of that moral high ground, but
again, it's not lossy that we don't have
certain checks and balances on us that
we apply on everybody else. And so, um,
Israel is one of our closest allies.
Obviously, um, the fact that everyone
just assumes they have nuclear weapons,
but they've never declared that they
have nuclear weapons. It's like, well,
that does feel a little bit special. But
at the same time, I look at the outcome
of the Israeli government and I look at
the outcome of uh the Iranian
government. I would say the Palestinian
government as well, but people obviously
going to throw flags on that plate. But
what are you going to say about Iran? So
uh I mean I know what they're going to
say that the US flipped the government.
Uh which is not untrue sort of. Um but
nonetheless, the Iranian government
overthrew the dictator essentially that
America had put in place. of Iran, uh,
but with a theocracy. I'd be lying if I
said that I wasn't watching with baited
breath to see how these ideologies
perform. Like, yeah, much like the US
versus the USSR was not just a a cold
war of
ideologies. It was a cold war where the
economies were going to play out. like
how does this ideology manifest as a a
tangible economic engine? Yeah. And so
now we're going to see the same thing
like Iran isn't Palestine, man. They're
they're 91 million people. They've got
[ __ ] oil for days.
And so it'll be interesting to see if
said theocracy
stands up tall or if it's as weak
internally, meaning it doesn't have the
backing of its own people in the way
that propaganda certainly wants me to
believe. I I it's all spin, so I never
know what to believe, but um certainly
that's the messaging. Nice. Um to your
point of Trump is having a problem with
his base splitting. Some people are for
jumping into this war, some people are
against it. JD Vance tweeted out a
message of support. I wanted to talk to
you about. Look, I'm seeing this from
the inside and I am admittedly biased
toward our president and my friend, but
there's a lot of crazy stuff on social
media. So, I wanted to address some
things directly on the Iran issue.
First, POTUS has been amazingly
consistent over 10 years that Iran
cannot have a nuclear program over the
last few months. Nuclear weapon
technically nuclear weapon. Over the
last few months, he encouraged his
foreign policy team to reach a deal with
the Iranians to accomplish this goal.
And he said repeatedly that this will
happen on one of two ways, the easy way
or the other way. Second, I've seen a
lot of confusion over the issue of
civilian nuclear power and uranium
enrichment. These are distinct issues.
They've been found in violation of their
non-prololiferation obligations by the
International Atomic Energy Agency,
which is hardly a right-wing
organization. It's one thing to want
civilian nuclear energy. It's another
thing to man sophisticated enrichment
capacity, and it's still another to go
cling to enrichment while simultaneously
violating basic non-prololiferation
obligations and enriching right to the
point of weapons grade uranium. He may
decide he needs to take further action
to end Iranian enrichment. That decision
ultimately belongs to the president. And
of course, people are right to be
worried about foreign entanglement after
the last 25 years of idiotic foreign
policy.
Dave Smith has thrown Trump out. He
regrets um endorsing him, says he
shouldn't be impeached. Candace Owens
and Ian Carol did a live earlier today
uh criticizing Trump for making this
move and calling him a Zionist and
falling under to those falling prey to
Israel yet again. What do you say about
this war? Do you think the US should
join it? I can give you principles for
dealing with a chaotic world order. Uh
but we don't have the information inside
to know if if I had all the information,
would I do what Trump is doing or not?
Um, so I will say this. When you have a
theocracy who believes that God has told
them to kill Israelis, wipe them off the
map, to kill Americans, uh, to kill the
British. Those are the three that I've
heard uh, directly. Obviously
translated, so I guess it's entirely
possible that I'm being bamboozled, but
I hear that from like all the
translations I've ever seen. No, it's
death to America, deaf to Israel, to UK.
So, uh, that I don't want those people
to have nuclear weapons. Full stop.
Period. End of story. And it definitely
seems in our best interest to make that
stop. Um, given that Trump, and again,
you're taking someone's word for it. But
given that he has tried and tried and
tried to broker a deal, uh, and
legitimately seems willing to talk to
anybody, which is one thing that I
appreciate about his foreign policy, but
they didn't bite. And so if you remember
way back, I think before Trump took
office, I said, "Oh god, the way the
thing that makes me nervous about the
way that he talks is eventually
someone's going to call his bluff." And
if it is a bluff, then this whole house
of cards falls down, which means he's
going to have to back it up. And I will
say Trump, as far as I can tell, Trump
doesn't really bluff. He just goes,
"This is how I'm going to play it." And
suicide mission or not, he's going to do
it for a little while so that you
understand, no, no, no, he's serious
about that. Now, he might back off very
quickly when he sees that something is a
bad idea, but he's going to punch you in
the mouth. Again, whether it's a
terrible [ __ ] idea or not, he's going
to throw that punch. And so, I look at
this and I'm like,
everything that I know about Trump says,
"Hey, I tried to broker a deal. You said
no. You're getting punched." Now, maybe
he goes all the way to Bunker Buster and
destroys their um Ford facility. Maybe
he doesn't. But uh I would be utterly
shocked if he didn't throw some punches
before he steps back to the negotiating
table. That would utterly shock me. So
again, do I think that we should be in
this? Anybody that's saying death to
America and is trying to become nuclear
armed? Yes, you you have to do
something. Uh would it be a thousand
different brands of moronic if we get
sucked into another
Iraq? Yes, for sure. So, it'll be
it will be interesting to see what other
information comes out, but with the
information that I have, I would say
dropping um bunker busters on for I can
get behind. Yeah. Getting involved in a
long-term skirmish between Israel and
Iran, not so much. Yeah. Copy. And it's
it's weird because for me, you know, the
American taxpaying citizen who goes to
church and has a daughter, I'm looking
at this, no more wars. We need to be
America first. we need to leave it
alone. But then like the opportunist in
me, the entrepreneur in me is like I
mean one bomb and you could kill that.
Like you got to take that shot, right?
You could just put it to bed tomorrow.
You never have to worry about this
again. Trump will literally sleep
peacefully if he can get that facility
off the map. Why wouldn't you take it?
Like you have every green light. The
international community is basically
pointing at it like, "Go ahead, bro.
Just do it. We get it. We understand."
Israel's boots on the ground and they
already are lighting uh tron up.
Israel is is on the offensive. It's not
like this is a last ditch effort or
anything like that. It seems like the
right move to do. But I don't know. Just
in general though, cuz I I'm going to be
honest. I've been watching bombs for the
last like 24 hours trying to play
catch-up. How do you think people should
level set about this moment? Like is
there a historical perspective? Like
what does this actually mean? Should we
start being worried? Should I buy a
bunch of water jugs? Like how are you
processing in the US? In the US, I have
such catastrophic concerns uh for
totally different reasons. So, watch my
upcoming deep dive where I go into uh
the all the political violence that we
see. As of today, I don't see a way to
avert civil war. Um I'll I give a plan
that uh is very much stolen from Ray
Dallio, but I don't think we're going to
take it. So,
um, I think that we've got our own woes
coming in big ways. I don't think it's
going to be from this. Uh, I think you
showed me a video that's interesting. I
mean, this is like full tin hat, but
Anonymous posted a video yesterday, I
believe, as of the time of this
recording anyway, uh, saying that in 16
days, uh, that there's going to be a
false flag attack on American soil. We
have acquired verified information that
a major attack is being planned on
domestic soil. It will be brutal. It
will be visible. And it will be blamed
on a foreign faction, one from the
Middle East. But that is a lie. The
operation is a false flag orchestrated
not by a foreign enemy, but by an elite
shadow alliance within a nation that
poses as our greatest ally, but instead
is a hypermilitarized power with deep
influence through sexual blackmail in
our intelligence, government, and media
sectors. The goal to drag us into their
war under the guise of retaliation. But
the real motive isn't justice. It's
control, resources, and power. They
don't say it, but it seems obvious that
they're talking about a false flag uh on
American soil. Um that will be blamed on
Iran, but very much according to them
won't actually have been Iran. Uh and
that it will be done so that we can put
our full might behind the Israel Iranian
conflict. My view on history is that
governments really do work at cross
purposes with their people a lot and
this kind of thing uh I can certainly
see. I have no reason to believe that
this is real. I know nothing about this.
Like I said, this is full tinfoil hat
conspiracy stuff right now. But what
freaks me out is how predictable all of
these things are given the forces of uh
wars are just so economically amazing.
Are wars good for us? They're good in
some ways because one, okay, here I am
worried about civil war. If you can
rally the country around something like
a new 9/11 where it's like, yo, we just
got attacked by Iran. Like, we got to be
focused on that. Like, we've got to stop
bickering. Uh so those kinds of things
do work for sure. Uh wars like that are
extremely
uh good for the economy, but in weird
ways that end up in the long run being
wildly destructive. And so if we go to
war, it will be money printing
literally right up until we implode. So
um it would be catastrophic. It would be
a mistake of the highest order from a
financial standpoint. And I'll just tell
you that right now. And so people
worrying about the rich getting richer
and the poor getting poor. Like you've
got to avoid it. You've got to avoid
Hold on. Can we like even afford this?
Cuz it it seems that I thought war would
lead to profit or lead to maybe we'll
steal some oil or something. But it just
seems like all this is is going to cost
us bodies, debt, and our national
future. Maybe we avoid a civil war. But
you can afford anything when the reserve
currency is your money for a while. And
what we we will if Trump decides that we
are getting in this war, we will fund it
literally forever. And much like
countries go, uh, well, we can't have a
election now, Drew. Uh, we've got
somebody in office. Uh, we're we're in
the middle of a war. You will get a very
similar reaction financially. Well, we
can't stop spending now, Drew. Like,
we're in the middle of a war. And so
people will if they can be made to
believe in the enemy then there there is
virtually no stopping the print bus. The
problem is that you are devaluing
everybody's holdings with every dollar
that you spend. So it will accelerate
the um political violence internally.
And the one thing I will say is I don't
think people are running the proper
calculus on the era that we're living in
from an information standpoint. You just
can't stop people from um complaining,
calling it out, saying what it is. So
there's just a a hyper awareness to
things that there didn't used to be. So,
it will be interesting to see what
actually happens because you're gonna
have people like me doing deep dive
after deep dive explaining why this is
financial suicide, how this inevitably
leads to um the end of empire, the loss
of reserve currency status. Uh and that
what ends up happening, it's really
fascinating. The country will turn on
itself. And so you'll print money to a
point where you think, well, we've got
this external enemy. Surely we'll be
focused on them. And you will as long as
there's a perceived like imminent
threat, but the second the imminent
threat goes away, like you you break
apart. And so I mean, this is very
similar to the UK after World War II.
It's like there the pound just kept
declining and declining and declining.
Uh Churchill was voted out of office
almost immediately after the war. So,
the guy literally saves all of Western
Europe and then it's just ousted because
everything changes after the war. Uh, so
I think America is on a one-way path
right now to tearing itself apart in the
next 10 years. Um, that will only
accelerate if we go to war, but there
are certain things that it will feel
like it will postpone it. That's maybe
the wrong way to say it. The right way
to say it is it will give them a license
to print.
And because people are so
incapable of transcending their
emotions,
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the show. That Okay, that just took me
the opposite way. I thought when you
have a war, it's good for the like
economy. When you have a war, it's good
for
uh it's Oh god. Okay, so I asked
it is it is on the surface good for the
economy because it gives you a reason to
print money and so you're pumping money
into the system. When you pump money
into the system, you're driving asset
prices up. So people that hold assets
are going to be like, "This is the
greatest time ever." Given that that's
the elites, given that the elites are
the ones that have the influence in
Washington DC, uh that for a large part,
they control politics. You'll get a
groundup revolt every now and then,
which is what we saw with Trump. But uh
for the most part, it's the wealthy
elites that control narratives and
control politics and on and on because
everybody's going to do whatever they
need to do to get money. Uh so from that
perspective once you understand that war
gives you the ability to steal from
everybody through inflation. So
literally poor, middle class, wealthy,
everybody gets stolen from but only
asset holders get enriched. And then
like an even more narrow band of people
really get to take advantage of it
because they get money before the
inflation actually makes its way out
into the economy. So imagine if I were
going to print a trillion dollars. Uh
the trillion dollars might take six
months a year to be felt in prices.
Well, if you're one of the companies
that gets advantage because you're
Loheed Martin or whatever, and you get
these huge contracts, uh you've got a
year where you just got, you know, let's
say $200 million, $500 million,
whatever, and you got a year to [ __ ]
spend it before prices go up.
So, um I'm oversimplifying it, but boy
oh boy is that exactly how it works. And
then on the other side, one more
followup. Um I remember it was in World
War II, like we printed money and made
war bonds and that was the way that we
like financed it like could something
like that happen? Of course. So, uh
here's how it works. So, right now the
bond market JP No, not JP Morgan. The
guy that works uh what's his name?
Chase, Jamie Diamond. Jamie Diamond.
Thank you. Uh Jamie Diamond came out
recently and said the bond market's
gonna crack. God, Drew, you're really
making me I'm convincing myself over
here that there really is going to be a
false flag to get us into the war. It
would be so [ __ ] convenient. Okay, so
Jamie Diamond comes on and he says,
"Listen, the bond market's going to
crack." What does that mean? It means
that the the reason they call the Fed
the buyer of last resort is because it's
inflationary if they buy the debt, but
it's not inflationary if all of us that
have money go buy the debt. So, uh when
your average um school teacher is like
feeling patriotic and they're like,
"Well, I'm not going to go fight, but
I'll buy war bonds." Then you get their
money, their post tax dollars, Drew. Uh
you get to suck them back into the
government. Oh god, it's so evil. Uh so
you get people buying the bonds and you
don't have to print. And so
you'll first gobble up all of that and
then you'll just keep spending how
literally however much they want. And
let's say that we've got, you know,
three, four trillion, five trillion in
debt because it's a wartime economy. uh
you just print whatever you're not able
to get from the buying public. And so if
it's it is almost certainly true that
the bond market is going to crack
because people like me who traditionally
buy a lot of bonds are sitting back
going our inflation is getting so
unhinged our our money printing our debt
is getting so unhinged that uh it will
break like mathematically it breaks I
just don't know if it breaks in two
months two years it's not going to be
more than 10 years like ma
mathematically it's just it's not
possible So, uh, but
I'm gonna back off. Then a bunch of
other people are going to back off and
then all of a sudden you've got the Fed
buying all of your debt. And so, um, if
we're in that position already and Jamie
Diamond is warning about it now, there
going to be people eyeing that going,
"Oo, people are not going to let us
print. People are going to squawk.
They're going to tell the government no
more spending. This is like Doge was
reviled now, but you start getting
stupid with it and people are really
going to say something. And so, um,
again, this is just conjecture. This is
pure conspiracy. But, um, I see the
forces at work that would cause somebody
to be like, h, we're going to need to
give people an enemy. Drew, I don't know
if people like take a um the most evil
like
central banker mustache twirling. You
say I thought you could say Hitler most
evil genocider, the most evil federal
because those guys that's different in a
monopoly guy. Looking looking at Hitler
is a totally different bag and very
fascinating. But I'm saying like
somebody who you imagine they're a comic
book villain because they just want to
um they want to be in control
politically. They want to um kill the
enemy so they can take their oil. I mean
just like that the real like the way
that people imagined Dick Cheney
like just that evil like Hallebertton of
it all. Yeah,
I don't think it's I doubt that it's
actually pure evil. It's something more
like um my life is good right now. I
don't want this to stop. I'm so inside
my bubble that I don't I mean I sort of
know that the things that I do are going
to like really negatively impact a lot
of other people. But it's like um one
death is a tragedy, a million deaths is
a statistic. So it just becomes so big
that you just think hm like my life is
dope for my life to continue. Uh I see
this path it's money printing. I
understand how this works. we can
maintain political control. And I just
have this vague sense that I'm morally
right anyway. So, I need to maintain
control to make sure we're doing the
right thing and I'm not really thinking
about all the people that are going to
be negatively affected. I just think
about the fact that this is going to let
me maintain my lifestyle. I I really
think it's something more like that.
It's like the benality of evil becomes
the real answer.
And do you think that is that a human
nature problem? Yes. Ah, so even before
it was kings and emperors and now it's
federal bankers.
Yes, it is. This seems specific to me
that if I have to kill you, if the you
live by the sword, you die by the sword.
Those rules are a bit simpler. I
understand them. Maybe just inflation is
too complicated. I'm losing I'm getting
caught like lost in the translation. But
this does seem intentional that you can
mathematically calculate it. You can
like we're dealing with numbers. We're
dealing with like money. We're not just
dealing with arbitrary egos or pride or
like me and how my sword swings. Like
it's I've been playing a lot of like
Assassin's Creed so I'm in samurai mode.
Yeah. But it's just one of those things
of like you're actively stealing from
the generation. Like Jerome Pal, you
have a granddaughter. Like you don't
ever think like, hey, I should lower the
rate cuz Drew, I really believe that the
vast majority of humanity
believes they're right. They they don't
even know how to question it. They just
feel right. And so, okay, I feel right.
They are unable to get themselves to
change direction when they've never
lived through it before.
So, they've never lived through a
country going broke before. So, they're
freaked. They they don't even know to be
afraid of that. Like, they hear about it
on paper, but they've never lived
through it. Um, I think about this a
lot. This is why I still live in
California because I keep thinking I'm
not really like going to try to secede
and like become proper communists,
right? Because I've never gone through
it before. If I'd been through this
before, because the math says get the
[ __ ] out. But I I just can't bring
myself. It's so disruptive. The thought
of having to convince all of you guys to
move with me or god forbid if you guys
decided you didn't want to, I'd have to
rehire. Oh god, my wife does not want to
leave. Jesus, that would be a nightmare.
My wife actually has friends. They're
all located here. If I have an internet
connection, I'm fine. Uh, but my wife
has like real friends. And so you you
get caught up in the daytoday of it all.
And I really think that spiral of I
trust myself. This feels right. I've
never lived through this before, so I
can't make the leap from I get it
intellectually on paper, but in reality,
I think I can make this continue
forever.
Period. If you want to go somewhere
else, we can. But I'll say one last
thing. I won't rat this person out
because I like them a lot. But a very
famous social influencer during uh like
the 2020 to 2023 period actually said
when talking about the economy,
maybe this time it really is different.
Maybe the world is so interconnected
that we could never have a recession
again. And I remember thinking, uhoh,
the second you say that, the second you
allow yourself to believe that, like you
are [ __ ] Yeah. But
we just we are so bad at translating
like the the
jarring
gong of reality
that will slap us in the face. We we
find it impossible to see it on paper
and act as if we've already been hit
with it. Yeah, that's it. That's a
facto. Um, moving on to Russia.
I feel like one thing we haven't talked
about in this discussion is kind of like
the proxy war element of it all. Um, I
can honestly think that for us it's in
the US's best interest for Israel to
take out Iran. Maybe it's in China's
best interest or Russia's best interest
to maybe have Iran be a prominent figure
in the Middle East, but we can kind of
see why we would support Israel and kind
of where that through line is. Do you
see a reason why Iran even there's
reports that they're giving peace talks?
Do you see anything on Iran's side of
who's giving peace talks? Like they even
asked for like a ceasefire that were
seeking a ceasefire. Seen a tweet that
Iran was after this weekend. It's
interesting, man. I I have no
information that the general public
doesn't have. My immediate assumption is
yeah, if I'm getting bombed, I'm gonna
say uh let's go back to the tables
because you know you can draw it out.
Like I listen, you want a secret? God,
this is one of those I probably should
just keep to myself. Uh but I think to
myself routinely, I can talk my way out
of anything. And so I want to put myself
in a position where I've got an
opportunity to like go down the road to
see if this is going to be advantageous.
And as long, and this is why I tell
people with contracts, the thing I care
about is what is my out? Mhm. If I have
a good out, bro, I'll go way down a
negotiation to find out like, is there
really something here? And I'll just
keep going, keep going, keep going, keep
going as if I'm like totally committed
because I'm like right when I have to
sign on the dotted line, if I don't have
a good out, then I can unwind it. But to
not at least, I mean, if I'm getting
bombed to not at least like go down that
path and be like, "Bro, let's talk."
That buys me time. Like first of all, if
I actually am close to a nuclear weapon,
I want to buy as much time as I can
because it is a totally different game
if I know that I'm legitimately a week
or a month away from a nuclear bomb.
I've got to get you to stop. I've got to
say whatever I need to say to get you to
not bomb Fort. So, they would almost be
dumb not to at least try to play that
card. Very good point. Very good point.
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into Russia, Ian Bremer tweeted over the
weekend that Russia is now targeting
Ukrainian civilians. This was their
deadliest strike of this second
iteration of the war over the weekend.
15 people dead, including one American.
Drones still flying, missiles still
dropping in Russia as they're also
dropping in the Middle East. Um I
remember we talked about Andrew and um
all the American uh weapon manufacturers
and how like drone warfare is going to
take over. We have to be prepared. And
then over this weekend I was just seeing
hundreds of drones just back feels like
in the last like 3 months like
immediately it became like everybody has
guns to now everybody has drones and it
just that that switch flipped and even
with um Israel's attack they used AI to
even like you to get the drones into
Iran space and then to then execute the
attack. like this is no longer the
future of this is what war is now. It's
crazy. War and pornography, those are
the things that advance technology. It's
uh it's bananas, but it's true. What
we're living through right now is really
weird for me. And I cannot pinpoint if
this is
90% that we just have cameras everywhere
now. Mhm. And so now all of a sudden I
can watch uh missiles
landing in Tel Aviv. Uh I can watch a
drone detonate in the side of an
apartment complex. Uh and it's just it's
always been like this. We just now film
everything or if right now is uniquely
dangerous. It feels uniquely dangerous.
And I feel like I'm talking myself off a
ledge by being like, "No, it's just so
we have cameras everywhere. Um, I would
say the cameras add to the uniquely
dangerous element of it because I feel
like if you see a bunch of images, it's
easy to then be radicalized one way or
another or to cement your, you know, for
all we know
Iran is in a crazy algorithmic loop and
they just be getting fed all this Israel
is screwing the world over now. They're
mad. U, I'm being tongue and cheek here,
but I doubt I doubt that's the beef.
Yeah, I'm being good, but we didn't like
that post you did. There's definitely
people who have who are commenting right
now who are in their own echo chambers
and are saying, "See, because of these
three videos that I've watched, this is
why Russia's a bad guy. This place is a
bad guy, a bad guy here." So, yeah, I
will say that uh there's no doubt you
and I will unintentionally spread
incorrect information from time to time.
There's no doubt about that. Uh not
letting us off the hook. We certainly
will never do it intentionally, but I
find myself having to research
everything. When I see something like we
both saw the video of the supposed uh
Iranian petting the um small nuclear
bomb, I was just like, there's no way
this is real. And so it took you a bunch
of time, but you finally tracked it down
to the original video that it was in and
it just gets reposted around. or people
will post a real video, but if it were
filmed today, it would mean something
dramatically different than if it were
filmed, like in the case of one that I
was looking at earlier that was filmed
two years ago. And so, it's like, oh my
god, there's just it is really hard to
parse out what is true. Now, I know when
I say that, people are going to be like,
"See, this is why we need like a
ministry of truth." And I'm like, "Have
you do you [ __ ] not read like
1984?" But anyway, people clamor for
that [ __ ] It's going to be hard though.
It's going to be hard. And I would
officially as a PSA like to ask the
technology companies out there, would
you please, for the love of God,
integrate blockchain or something so
that I can know beyond a shadow of a
doubt where a video comes from. That
would be amazing. Uh I think we're not
only are we going to need that, it that
is going to happen. There's just no way.
There's so much [ __ ] All right,
here it is. Here is our supposed Iran.
This is so ridiculous. So then this was
the repost of it. This is what an
Iranian news uh media outlet did. This
is kind of their Alrazer or something
like that. They retweeted this and then
Israel's initial one which course who
was the first person to post that video.
Israel, right? Israel posted that. That
was in like some longer video. There we
go. Yes, here it is. And there's they
were using it as a warning.
Can we just say Israel? That is the most
ridiculous thing I've ever seen in my
life. Nobody pets their nuclear bomb.
The second I saw I was like, I'm being
trolled right now. But yeah, I like you
said, I seen the Iranian version first
and it said maybe. So I'm like, oh snap.
It this is about to be there's no way
that Iran is posting somebody petting a
nuclear weapon and it says maybe. Maybe.
You never know. I was like, there's no
way these guys do not have that kind of
humor. Plus, like if you say maybe to
something like that, everyone goes, "Get
the [ __ ] out of here." You don't have
that. That Yeah, that one's absurd. But
there's so much stuff. I showed Lisa a
video of a giraffe with a fanny pack on
boarding an airplane on its own
valition, and she thought it was real.
Now, in her defense, she couldn't tell
that it was an airplane. and it just
looked like it was going through like
some sort of metal gateway. And I was in
hysterics. I'm like, "It has a fanny
pack on." She was like, "Oh, okay.
You're right. It does." But it's like
when you're just sort of glancing at
something, when you're scrolling,
the one that got me, and I I remind
myself of this all the time was the
tents on the buses. Oh. And I was like,
"Wait." I was like, "The wind surely
would not." And I was like, "Hold on.
This has got to be AI." But for a
second, I really believed it. Like my
mental model was like, "Oh, damn." like
homeless going hard. Uh AI is going to
get us all, Drew. Sheesh. Well, if AI is
not going to get us, it's going to be
the FBI because the FBI and the IRS has
joined forces to find and hold
accountable the individuals funding the
LA riots. Hello, I'm Billis, United
States Attorney for the Central District
of California. And I'm Akquil Davis, the
assistant director in charge of the
FBI's Los Angeles field office. And I'm
Tyler Hatcher, the special agent in
charge of IRS criminal investigation
here in Los Angeles. The right to
assemble and protest peacefully is
protected by law. Unfortunately, we have
seen individuals whose intentions are to
cause damage and to assault law
enforcement. For example, last week we
arrested an individual who is charged
with conspiracy to commit and aiding in
abetting civil disorders. These violent
agitators put peaceful demonstrators at
risk. The FBI and our federal partners
will continue to investigate individuals
and organizations who are knowingly
funding and committing acts of violence
against law enforcement as well as the
destruction of property. We are
currently tracing money to determine who
is providing funding for these riots.
Funding crime doesn't just affect the
criminals. It also disrupts entire
communities. Each dollar funneled into
illegal operations fuels violence,
undermines law and order, and
perpetuates fear. Make no mistake, we
will identify and disrupt financial
networks supporting these criminal
activities. Think before you act. The
legal consequences for financing or
aiding in abetting these crimes are
harsh. They include imprisonment and
fines.
If you have any information regarding
individuals and organizations providing
financial support,
there's a lot of levels to address this
video on Drew. Uh okay. Uh, while I
really want to start with the guy in the
middle's neck routine, uh, because he
better be a wrestler or a boxer or
something, Drew. Uh, okay. So, the LA
riots as teased out from the protests.
Uh, I think that that's an important
thing to break apart. America is tearing
itself apart. That that is just facts.
Like when I was writing the deep dive
and you start listing out all the things
that have happened just in the last 5
years, it it's absurd. You It sounds
like you're talking about a third world
country. It's crazy. Political
assassinations.
Uh that's the one that always like gets
me. But like riot on the capital, uh
political assassinations, attempted
assassination of the president, people
openly calling for the assassination of
Trump. Like literally on their ex
account, like not trying to hide. Um the
riots, the protest, the Tesla dealers.
Jesus, man. I didn't even include that
one. Uh, so when I was watching the LA
riots, I was just like, man, we've
really gone mad. If you actually want to
affect change, you've got to do it
peacefully. I mean, that's just like the
the history books say. So, when I see
the violence, this is people who are so
in their fields
or they're being orchestrated, and I
don't know which is worth. They're both
[ __ ] horrific in terms of their
outcomes, but you've got people
orchestrating the people who feel some
kind of way emotionally is probably the
chain of events. And so it's like you're
going to have to track that down. Okay?
You have to put a stop to that.
Otherwise, it's just going to escalate,
escalate, escalate. People will do as
much as they can, just like a kid.
They're going to test the boundaries,
and if they get away with riots at that
level, then they're going to push and
push and push. Uh, and that's how you
get domestic terrorism. Okay. Uh the
next layer is we are militarizing our
police force. Like we're sending Marines
in and and I think rightly so, but this
is horrible. This is the wrong
direction. The thing I think for myself
is listen, I have wild biases. I have um
a value system that tells me things
ought to be this way, that way,
whatever. But when I look at the future
that I want, I force myself to find my
way to the middle. And what I mean by
that is not that I'm changing my
beliefs. I force myself to say, I'm not
right. These my values aren't right. My
values are just mine. And so I've got to
understand that there are other people
and they feel different. And I might
look at them and have the impulse to
laugh and be like, "These people are
literal clowns. What the fuck?" Uh, but
that's not going to get us where I want
to go. And so, just as I would hope they
would extend an olive branch to me
rather than yelling and screaming at me
because they don't like the things that
I believe, I need to do the same for
them. And
both sides seem desperate to lock the
other side up. And there's something
you can't let crimes go unpoliced. I get
it. But you've got to have shock
absorbers. You've got to when you're
dealing with um political actors, for
instance, you you've just got to give
them an additional layer of like, okay,
fine. Like I'm going to put up with a
bit more from you than I might put up
with from somebody else because like I
don't want to find myself gleeful that I
get to arrest my opponents. Like if you
can't see that flips on you the second
you're not in power, they will do the
same to you. And then it's like
this the people that are in this
country, Drew, are the people that are
going to be in the country in the
future? Mhm. So if right now you think
these are all [ __ ] idiots,
what are you saying? like for the next
60 years that you're going to hate a
huge swath of the country. Like that
that's full [ __ ] You've got to find a
way. I mean, this is like I'm speaking
to a Christian here. This is like some
straight up Jesus [ __ ] It's like turn
the other cheek, extend an olive branch.
Like you've got to find a way to bring
people together. You've got to find a
way to pull yourself to the middle.
You've got to find a way to have
compassion for other people that do not
see the world the way that you see the
world. Like if people cannot see that
the polarization is yanking us apart
like faster and faster every day, that
just freaks me out. And because I'm so
hyper aware of the economic forces that
push us in this direction and the odds
of those letting up anytime soon are
basically zero, uh if we want to get on
the other side of this without a whole
lot of bloodshed, we've got to find a
way to instead of being like, uh, we're
going to militarize everything. We're
gonna find you. we're going to hunt you
down.
You can't let people get away with
stuff. You have to put borders. But
like, do you have to make this video
where you get the three guys to stand
like this and you tell them to put your
hands in the exact same thing? It's
like, I get it, man, but they're trying
to like send a message. They they don't
have somebody that's like um I mean I
hate to beat this [ __ ] drum, but
Nelson Mandela was like the right guy
for the time and to come out and be
talking about unity. And listen, I don't
know how much of it is propaganda. I get
that. But the movie Invictus about him
going to the rugby team and being like
basically I need you guys to win because
we need something that unifies the
country. It's like give me some of that
[ __ ] You know what I mean? Like
if we're not going to get it from our
leaders, it's got to come from each of
us.
So here it is to people that do not
think the way that I think word. I love
it. In fact, one of the things that I
love about you and I is we don't see
everything the same. Uh but I have
tremendous respect for you. I'm glad
that I get to be made sharper because
you disagree with a lot of the things
that I think. Absolutely. Um, so anyway,
man, I really hope people can see even
if it's not a game being orchestrated by
some comic book villain just off camera,
we are being pulled apart. And it just
takes each of us to try to force
ourselves back to the middle. Um, to
understand not everybody's going to see
things the way that we see things, to
always fight ethically because listen, I
want to convince people. I want to
convince people my way is right cuz I
believe my way is right. I just have a
healthy distrust for myself enough that
I'm like I'm not going to browbeat
people into my position. We'll get back
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Happy. That was well said. Um, and I
have a story for you over the weekend
that you would love. Um, I brought up a
eat the babies reference. Um, my nephew,
he's 25. He just turned 25. Um, we were
walking downtown San Francisco, kind of
seeing the remnants of the protest.
Super chill. I I didn't see a rock. I
didn't like nothing. We were um on our
way to get food. Everybody else was in
the hotel. The uh we they got married at
like the iconic city hall. Long story
short, we were downtown San Fran the
whole weekend. As we were walking past,
he was like, "You know what, Drew? If we
just took out l
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