What you MUST know about Biden, Wuhan, & the Epstein Files! | Tom Bilyeu Show
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Kind: captions Language: en Biden announces devastating cancer diagnosis with curious timing. Bernie admits the Democrats are a threat to democracy. NIH director says CO may have started in Wuhan and his employees walk out. Xiinping confiscates the passport of a top scientist known for editing human embryos. Trump says Putin may be ready to begin the peace process. And Cash Patel is being hella sus about releasing the Epstein files. Microsoft also announces a whole new era of agentic AI. Drew, it's another week of political theater. Starting with some heavy news. Joe Biden has been diagnosed with an aggressive form of prostate cancer. Um, he tweeted early this week, "Cancer touches us all." Like so many of you, Jill and I have learned that we are strongest in the broken places. Thank you for lifting us up with love and support. I want to send a, you know, our well warmed wishes to the Biden family. I think there's um three things that are simultaneously true. It is devastating that he's been diagnosed with an aggressive form of cancer and I know his son died of cancer as well and it's absolutely brutal. Uh literally I'm still doing scar healing from having cancer removed from my face and that's the world's like most minor thing ever. So I can only imagine uh super heavy. The timing though is, I think, directly related to the release of the book that's coming out, Original Sin, uh, from Jake Tapper. And the subhead of this is pretty crazy. Uh, President Biden's decline, its cover up, and his disastrous choice to run again. Uh, so needless to say, I think the book is going to be pretty damning in terms of the accusations towards the administration. And listen, um the second thing that is true is that um despite the fact that you don't want to go too hard in the pain on somebody that's just been diagnosed with cancer, um you can't hide from the massive cover up. There's nothing to debate. They were obviously covering it up. There's nothing to debate either. Everyone in the Biden administration was completely blind, cannot in any way, shape, or form judge human performance. In which case, we have an even bigger problem. Or they were leveraging somebody that they could maneuver, manipulate, position, poise, like, however you want to think about it, but they had a puppet that they could move around the chessboard, and they didn't want the American people to be aware of it. So when I think about the way that the game of political theater works, it is uh it's the architecture of the human mind. Humans don't want to pay attention to this stuff most of the time. They just want to fall in love, live their life, make some money, love their family. They don't want to deal with this stuff. Um we are manipulated because we are manipulatable. It seems now that there's kind of like an apology tour happening. I seen Jake Tapper on Megan Cully talking about, yeah, we were wrong. We thought it was one thing, it happened to be another thing. Is there any percentage of you that thinks that maybe he was okay or was it just nah political man is animal and man is political animal. There's no universe in which he was okay. I think that having people in office that are over 70 years old already you are trending in the wrong direction. You want people that are in the prime of their cognitive life. You want people that have high energy. You want people that are of the moment first of all. like I can already feel from a social commentary standpoint that there's a band of people that I can speak to and that I understand. And so it's, you know, maybe 15 years below you to 15 years above you. When you're young, you feel like you're all that's relevant. And then as you get older, you realize, uhoh, we're all actually just in this band that moves with us. And so if you're I mean, how old is Trump? Like he's pushing his late 70s, right? So, uh, you're in a position now where you represent this really old block where half of the people that are 15 years older than you are just dead. Uh, and so it really you want people that are in their prime that are super vital. And Biden was anything other than that. And I think what we want to look for in our political figures are people that we look at and we say I can esteem this person that I can point my kids at them and say like look that that is a person that lives by the kind of values that I want you to live by. Now look I get it a long time ago we abandoned political figures representing any of the moral standards by which we want to live by. But I'm saying I don't know that that was the right answer. I don't know that abandoning that um is the ideal. Now, man is political animal. I don't know that it's possible to get into that position unless you have wild narcissistic tendencies where you want the attention. You believe that you're right. You believe that people should listen to you. You covet the position because you think you're the right person for the position. And that very cognitive framework is in and of itself the danger. And I don't know what you do about that, man. I don't know that there's a way around it. But oh man, I really don't like looking at the entire political apparatus and being grossed out. And I remember as a kid looking at the political apparatus, going to Washington DC for the first time and being in awe. I was there not too long ago, like six months or whatever. And even then, like you see all the monuments, it feels some kind of way. Like it really does feel um presidential is the word that keeps coming to mind. But what like whatever that whatever that bigger thing is where it's like there's some honor, there's some sense of awe. There's a sense of being a part of something that's bigger than you. That's the picture. That's the thing that we paint. That's the aspiration that we put forward. But none of it's real. I came across um stuff about Lincoln and you want to talk about somebody that I rever because of the story that's told about Lincoln. Dude, this is a paraphrase, but Lincoln said, "If I could keep the Union together without freeing a single slave, I would do it." And it's like, god damn. And so he ends up doing the Emancipation Proclamation because he feels the threat of Europe coming in to tear America apart. and he's like, "We've got to find some way to make this um a fight that people would feel morally aborant being on the wrong side of." And so, if I can make this something that Europe beat us to, which is abolishing slavery, if I can make this about slavery, even though it wasn't, and he stated multiple times in documentation that that's not what what it was for him, um if I can make it about slavery, then I can get Europe to be like, "Ah, damn it. Now, we can only be on one side. We can't be on both and just fund both sides and see whoever wins and who the [ __ ] cares. America's getting too powerful. We want to tear it apart. We'd much rather be in a position where it's like divided states again. And so, it's like, oh, that's so gross. And so, I'm in this position of like, hold on. Like, I want there to be these really empowering narratives about whatever, about what a man should be, about what America is, about what the Civil War was. And then you really get under the hood and it's always ugly, petty, economic, political, and it's just like Jesus Christ. And so, could he have gotten elected if he didn't play the game? Probably not. Uh, would the slaves have been freed he not played a political game? Probably not. But is it absolutely gut-wrenching that he didn't do it? Like I always thought of him as a man that died for a moral stance that I'm willing to risk tearing America apart to make a stand for this moral thing. And then as you look the beast in the eye, you realize it wasn't [ __ ] that at all. And so it's like what do you do? Do you do you then like push that and say, "Oh, there's no heroes, boys and girls. There's no one for you to look up to." Uh or do you tell the story? And honestly, that's what's jumping out to me in this whole uh monologue that you had is that it seems like we traded in America as the entity to know America isn't good. This side is saying it's like this where another side is saying America isn't the thing because and then they have kind of their own narrative. So instead of us doing what's best for country, we now do what's best for the political person that has taught us how to view the country in like a new way. So, it's almost as if we traded in this boilerplate America is great kind of tagline and everybody's now moving toward that direction to now small different factions of political people who are saying America isn't it, it's this thing or and trying to like pull our attention away to get their own narrative pushed forward. There has to be an aspirational narrative because that's how the human mind works. And listen, I was originally drawn to film just because I loved stories. And I won't lie and say that when I was 12, I understood that I wanted to make empowering stories. But as I developed the motivation to tell stories around wanting to uplift people, I realized how powerful that is to have a north star, to have something to aim at. Um, we're all going to face hard things in life. And in those moments, you're going to be locked inside your head. And there is going to be a narrative on play. What that narrative is is up to each individual person. Who do you want to be? How would the person you want to be act in that moment and then act accordingly. I cannot tell you how many times I will go through something and feel like I'm not actually the person that I want to be, but I'm being given an opportunity right now to say, "Okay, even though I'm this completely flawed and wildly insufficient human, how close can I get to acting at least acting the way that the person I want to be would act?" And it changes your energy. It changes your level of aggression is how I think about it. It allows me to put my chin down and barrel forward into hard things because the person I want to be would do that. And if I need that narrative inside my own head, I know that we need it at the family level. I know that we need it at the country level. Like, you've got to tell people, here is this thing that we should all aspire to. And so I want to live in a world where instead of it all being about Biden's a loser, Trump's a loser, it's like, hey, we both have visions of how to make America amazing. We both have visions of how America is amazing right now today. And we want to do more of that. And instead, it's nobody has a vision for the parts that are awesome now. Nobody's shining a flashlight on the parts that we can be proud of. Everybody's just got some reason about why XYZ parts sucks. And if you point the flashlight at anything to say this thing is awesome, somebody's going to come and tear it down. And it's like, I'm not even saying that what they're saying isn't true. I'm just saying that the deranging effects of putting the flashlight only on the negative things is really distressing. And I am admittedly in my own life, the deeper I delve into politics, I am thinking through this stuff in real time because I'm trying to end every deep dive video with like, okay, but what do we do? I don't want to just wallow in problem, problem, problem. Yeah. And the answer of what we do is how we frame things matters. You need to stare nakedly at how things really are so that you're not easy to trick because we're so easy to trick because we just we want to feel the way we want to feel. And we'll lean into whatever narrative makes us feel that way. If we want to be outraged, we'll lean into the narrative that outrages us. If we want to feel uplifted, we're going to lean into the narrative that uplifts us. So, you become very easy to fool. So, you do have to understand how the world works. every bit of the ugliness of politics that I look at, I feel like, oh my god, I'm going to make so much money off this because I understand what to pay attention to economically to win. It's crazy. I've I've never felt more confident in my ability to navigate markets. Now, I could be wrong. I want to be very clear about that, but there's something about like, oh my god, I'm actually seeing how this works, but I am not willing to allow myself to become cynical. And man, I just want to see more of that. I want to see people give a vision that's positive. Yeah, I think the first step is to take a look in the mirror and understand where we are and how far we've come from where we could be. Um, and Bernie Sanders was forced to do that as he sat down with Andrew Schultz and during a podcast taping earlier and he was talking about the problems of what happened and the threats to democracy that some of the political parties are enacting. This is crazy. The problem I think a lot of voters had is like they didn't even know if it was her. We didn't even know if Biden was president. We didn't even know if these were her talking points. And we felt that over the last four elections, Democrats, we felt that we didn't have a say on who could be president. We talk a lot about the Republicans being autocrats and oligarchs and taking over democracy, but from the Dem Democrat perspective, and this I'm a lifelong Democrat. I felt like the Democratic party completely removed the Democratic process from its constituents, and they I think they need to have some accountability of that. No longer been here. I donated for you. I I mean I wanted you to like 2016 I was like this is going to happen. This guy's going to do it. And it felt like they it felt like they stole it from me. And I'll be honest, it broke my heart when you when you supported him. Look, but you have in the world that I live in, you got a choice. And I mean a lot of people, including my wife, agree with you. But you know, you're down to a choice. Is it going to be Hillary Clinton or is it going to be Donald Trump? Not a great choice. But it ended up being him anyway. So why don't we burn it down? Well, because it's easy to say burning it down means that children are not going to have, you know, food to eat, that the schools will deteriorate. People will not have healthcare. I got it. And I, you know, I'm an elected official. I got to represent the people that I can't turn my back on. But then could we not also say if ostensibly there hasn't been a fair primary for the Democrats since 2008, are they not also a threat to democracy? We often hear Fair enough. That is that is Yeah, I'm not gonna argue with that point. One, I'm impressed that Bernie is just outright willing to admit that the the behavior of the Democratic party is a threat to democracy. I don't want to make it about the Democratic party. I think Republicans also, if they could, if Trump could become emperor, he would. I I just I don't see anything to tell me otherwise. If somebody said um to him that hey you could run for three more years, 10 more years, 12 more years, he would do it until he died. I really believe that Washington was given the opportunity and he didn't take it. So I know that there are people that would say no like it that isn't the right thing for the country and um Trump wouldn't. I don't think the Democratic party would. In my position, you have a choice. they'll put up whoever they need to to just keep the ball rolling. And the fact that he's willing to admit that, I really respect. But the most interesting thing in what he said is that um he doesn't say man is political animal, but that's what he's talking about. And he he had to do something and he knew that if he split the party, then Trump was more likely to win. It's a little unfair of Andrew Schultz to make out like he could have known that that was going to be the result. That was the Yeah, that was the same year Trump has no shot. This is Hillary's year. Like Bernie's got to roll the dice and say, "Listen, I think that I I know that if I uh pull attention away that we're going to lose." Like that basically becomes a guarantee. And so the system is Tom Billy's words, corrupt. It is what it is. That's how politics works, says Bernie. Uh, and so I'm gonna put my weight behind um Clinton, who for whatever reason has more control of the Democratic machine than I have. So, I get all of that. Now, I think Bernie is quite literally uh I I think he's an unhinged lunatic. Like, I don't the the policies that he puts forward are so emotionally driven and so economically illiterate. Um I yeah I think that's a bit harsh. I think that hit me with it because I think it comes from a good place though because I think what the [ __ ] does that matter literally? What does that matter? You represent people. So you represent the interests of those people and if I could do something that can help those people, I'm going to try to push legislation that can help those people. I agree. But when when your legislation has never ever in all of human history shown that it helps your people, why the [ __ ] do it? People are not tracking chain of logic. They are not following cause and effect. They are following feels good. Do it, Mike. Like I actually believe Bernie believes what he says. There are plenty of reasons. You can point at Bernie and be cynical. I'm not going to do that. I think Bernie believes what he's saying, but dude, this is a guy who, and I couldn't give you the quotes or anything, but I know that he went to Russia, honeymooned in Russia or something like this is somebody that has a legitimate please look it up. This is somebody that as far as I know has legitimate um affinity for I'll say the USSR and that's madness. And anybody that can't understand that creating a set of inputs that has outputs that are greater than the inputs like that is a miracle. When you think that redistribution is the miracle, like we we're already in La La Land. I I understand that and I understand that communism leads to eating babies, socialism. Do you actually do or or have I said it so many times now that it's just a I actually understand. I think though that there is a line between increased taxation, efficient use of government resources, and starving babies. So, I I do think that there is a window right now if it takes 10 clicks to get to eating the babies. I feel like Bernie Sanders was at click number two. I do think that there is a way right now to bite into a business's profit margin. Exxon's going to be mad. The pharmaceutical industry is going to be mad. A lot of business owners are going to be upset because this is going to increase their expenses. It's going to have a second order consequence that it's going to then hurt people. It's going to hurt business. But there are going to be people that are going to say, "Okay, instead of me making 10 billion in profit, I'm going to have to make five billion in profit and reallocate those resources to this government program that's going to increase the health care of our of my u employees that is going to do other things that can ultimately lift those constituents. I do think there is a narrow slit of we can fix these problems. we can enact more socialist policies that can help long term without completely flipping the switch and saying everything redistribution, billionaires need to not exist, things like that. Let me ask you a question. Yes. Uh if somebody ran into this room right now and they were screaming in Vietnamese and they clearly needed help, who would you go to for the help? Would you turn to me? Um, I feel like I would turn to I don't I wouldn't turn to you because I'm not sure you can speak Vietnamese. I can't speak Vietnamese. Not a lick. But is there somebody in the office that can't speak Vietnamese? I believe so. Yes. We We'll speak. Okay. Yes. Okay. We will talk. So, you don't go to me. Uhhuh. Because I can't speak Vietnamese. The government can't spun spend money efficiently. The government is a [ __ ] psychopath of I want to get bigger. All governments want to do is grow. If you allow them to absorb more money and spend, they'll keep doing it and keep doing it and keep doing it and they only have one mechanism, man. And they will print [ __ ] money. If you do not give the money to the organization that is proven that it can allocate those resources in a literal magical way where you create a set of inputs that yield a better output than the inputs, you're a lunatic. Just like you would be a lunatic if somebody came in here and they're screaming Vietnamese and you don't immediately go to Will and say, "Will, you speak Vietnamese. What the [ __ ] is the problem? How do we help this person?" Going back going back to cynicism though. Is is that that is a cynical view of the government? And do you think that this government is beyond is the government too big to fix, too big to reform? So governments are awesome. Governments are necessary. But you have to understand what the government is good at and what the government is bad at. The government is very good at defense. Cool. We want to make sure that the government does defense. The government is very good at getting big. And so we know if we feed it, it's going to grow. And so then we have to ask, as it has grown, have the uh outputs of the governmental system gotten better? Have we gotten healthier? No. Has our education gotten better? No. Uh have people gotten wealthier? No. Has life expectancy gone up? No. So it's like I I don't know what metric people want to look at to say, "Oh, this is working." Everyone can feel something is very wrong. Very wrong. You could sit me next to Gary's economics and both of us are going to be like something is very wrong for the average person. Screamingly wrong. Maybe I didn't grow up as poor as Gary. I did not grow up well off. Uh, I've seen poverty up close. I've been broke. I want to see the average person win. But Gary and I are going to beat very different drums. But when you push Gary on cause and effect, he just keeps saying, "I'm going to keep betting and I'm going to keep winning." But what he's betting on, Drew, is that the government's going to print money. That's the only thing he's betting on. asset prices are going to go up. And the reality is that system is broken for a very specific reason. And that reason is that governments are terrible with money. They will deficit spend if you give them the ability to. Um they literally don't care about any sort of short to medium-term fixes. Um all they want is to give their constituents the feeling that they're fighting for them. That's it. And this becomes a thing of you have to define your base assumptions. Once somebody tells me um innovation is not helpful, okay, there's nothing for us to talk about because innovation is the very thing that's pulled people out of poverty. I I don't have beef with any of that. I think that that's very valid. I see the one, two, and three, the cause and effect of it all. I think specifically even taking the Gary economic thing off the table. Um I do feel like the government can reform in a way that can allocate resources that can help people. I do think that there can be reforms. I do think that people giving them more money. What would you do to reform the government? I think we just need to do a very uh substantial audit of where we spend our dollars because when we need certain things. So you love Doge? Uh yeah, I don't have no beef with Doge. those should exist. Yes. Um my beef in general though is that when it comes to reform of capital markets, when it comes to reform of taxation, that is dealt with higher scrutiny than the reform that was necessary to get the government. Right now, wait, I didn't understand that it's dealt with higher scrutiny. What do you mean? People would rather talk about how inefficient the government is instead of saying the government, let's make the government become more efficient. Even the the word government is like, nope, since it's a government, there's no way that it could be working and operating unless it's these three categories. To your point earlier, unless it's defense or getting bigger, that's all the government is good for. I think the government can be good at other things. If we just shrink its uh perception and what it's focused on, I don't think the government should be doing 40 things, but I think if we put the government in charge of six things, and these are the six things that they do for the US, I think we will be okay. I mean, it's an interesting uh hypothesis. It's just very detached from reality in terms of we have I forget how many hundreds of um departments that but that's my point. If those hundreds can turn into six defense, education, EPA, um FDA, food, um I feel like uh infrastructure, transportation, and maybe an extra spy agency because we need to know uh where the terrorists are. Like if you give me those like six and they take a step back out of everything else, I feel like give the states more power, increase it, that cuts our our uh spending 60% cuz we're not doing entitlements and things like that. So then you and I don't disagree on anything. Here's the great news. If you did that, you wouldn't need more taxes. 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Use code impact at checkout. Again, that's butcherbox.com/impact and use code impact to get one of those billion boxes. And now, let's get back to the show. You generate 4 trillion dollar a year in taxes. Trillion. So, the problem is you spend six trillion. That's your problem. So, if you literally did what you're saying, which no one will ever do, uh, but if you did, that would be amazing. And I know a lot of people, so the problem comes down to it's not necessarily the problem of the government. It's what will happen. And we're saying the government or you're saying the government will never get shorter. They will not cut entitlements. It's political suicide. So, this government is only going to go one way, bigger, larger, spend more inefficiently. I won't say that. And I certainly uh every president that gets into office should do their best to constrain government to make it as efficient as possible. Nobody should come into office being cynical. Um so let's not even talk about Trump. Let's talk about uh Clinton. They did a great job. Narrow the focus of government, built a surplus, reduced spending. Very dogey. they didn't, you know, use the words or have Elon Musk, but um it's the right idea. So, I love that. I want to see more of that. But that isn't the moment that we're in. The moment that we're in is populist, the moment that we're in is um go be strong man. So, whether you want Trump to go slap around the international community or you want uh Bernie to come in and slap all of the billionaires around, you want somebody slapped around. And it's just a question of who you want slapped around. And I am really not enjoying a populist moment that I can agree with you on. So for me the the goal really needs to be a positive vision of uh our country. It needs to be a way to um de intelligently reduce our reliance on China. I won't even say decouple, but like we need to be smart about that. Um, it's about finding ways all the people that have totally disengaged from the workforce. How do you get them re-engaged? Um, yeah, it's about ending deaths of despair. It's about helping people find meaning and purpose. Um, it's about unity and finding each other in the middle. It sounds cheesy even to say it, but I don't want I wouldn't want anybody to be in office that wasn't optimistic. We'll have agree to disagree on this one. Well, where did I lose you? Cuz I feel like we're agreeing near the end. Yes. But I still feel that what we ultimately want is efficient government. Yes, I can meet you there. Agreed. I think that the populace of it all could be distracting. And to your point, I don't want anybody slapped around. So, yes, I don't think if we take all the money from the billionaires, all our problems are solved. That would be nonsensical. I agree. I do think billionaire What's the part you disagree with? The part I disagree with is that making increasing taxes and cutting into profit margins of billionaires and highwealth individuals to fund certain social programs is a death sentence. I think that that redistribution can work on a very specific Why is it a death sentence? What do you mean? You're just saying you I don't think I don't think it's it's a death sentence cuz you said you said if we take it it's just going to go into a black hole. I do think we can efficiently increase tax. We we agree if uh sort of if you make government efficient, you can pay for the things that you want to pay for. I'm just saying you first have to make government efficient. So before you do anything before you do why would you pour money? So that's the entrepreneur. We have to we have to do efficiency first increase taxes and all the other things. As an entrepreneur, you learn an ironclad rule. Don't ever throw capital or people at an inefficient system. It will all get burned. All of it. You no matter how much growth you have, like when Quest was 57,000% in three years, Drew, 57,000%. We had a doubling time of 30 days. You go from a million to 2 million to 4 million to 8 million to 16. 30 days. 30 days. 30 days. 30 days. It was pure insanity. Pure insanity. Even at that point, you realize, uhoh, we're throwing money at problems and your profit margin begins to bog down. And so, you're growing topline revenue, but you're not growing profitability. And it it's just completely illogical. You have to slow down because making more money only to put less money in your bank account doesn't make any sense. So, it's like slow down, solve the problem, and then step back and see where you really are. But if you're hiring so many people that you've got people standing around and they're not doing anything, it it is nonsensical. You're just burning capital. So now you're saying, "Hey, I have this magical thing over here called entrepreneurship and I'm draining the lifeblood which would with which they would use to continue to do magical [ __ ] and I'm giving it to this wildly inefficient machine over here because it's like, hey, there are people that need to be taken care of." Totally understand. And I'm definitely not saying just let companies do whatever the [ __ ] they want. Let them pollute, let them kill, destroy, neglect. I'm not saying that. I'm just saying you have a wildly inefficient system. Solve inefficiency first. Then and only then do you move to okay now do we actually need more money or by becoming more efficient do we have everything that we need to take care of people. ipso facto. And I honestly think, man, that if people saw the government, I'll speak for myself. If I saw that the government was spending money efficiently and they were making people's lives better, like go to the Middle East, you'll be like, uh, holy [ __ ] It isn't literal, but it's about as close to literal as you're going to get to. The streets feel like they're paved with gold. Like it it's unbelievable. And that's because there's just so much money coming out of the ground. And if you can do that kind of thing for your people, dude, that'd be awesome. I I if if it made, first of all, people lose their heads in a literal fashion when inequality gets too wide. So only idiots don't want a thriving middle class. Literally only idiots. idiots and the truly um evil the creature from Jackal Island. You want a thriving middle class? I'll happily pay tax. I happily pay taxes now. I've literally done nothing to evade taxes. I'm not that guy. I live in [ __ ] California for god's sake. Um people will pay taxes if they see the money is being spent. Well, okay. I'm with you there. I am with you there. NIH director sparked a massive walk out at a conference for the NIH employees when he suggested that CO 19 may actually have come from a Wuhan lab and they also may have partially funded it. It's possible. There's a lot of a lot of controversy over this. I'm sure there's folks in the room who disagree with me. Um, but it's possible that the the pandemic was caused by research conducted by human beings and it's also possible that that the NIH partly sponsored that research. And if that's true, it's nice to have free speech. Welcome you guys as people are walking out. [Music] Yeah. So if it's true that we sponsored research, if it's true that we sponsored research that caused a pandemic and if you look at polls of the American people, that's what most people believe. And I've looked at the scientific evidence. I believe it. What we have to do is make sure that we do not engage in research that has any risk of posing any risk to human populations. We have to stop researching things that can have an effect on human population. Um I understand chemical warfare. I understand that we have to get in front of our enemies, the nuclear race, things like that. This is to me saying the quiet part out loud that like, yeah, we were just experimenting and it went off and 20 million people across the globe ended up getting killed before. Like this seems like it's a smoking gun to me. Like you're kind of admitting to a pretty big mess up, but yet it kind of feels like business as usual. Two things going on here. One is um humans engage in the creation of biological weapons. So gain of function is how much more deadly can we make this? That's what gain of function means. Jeez. Um, why why they say they do it so that they know how to defend against it, but like you make it possible, you make it stronger and risk that it can get out. That's crazy. Uh, so this is one that either you've got a bunch of morons or they're doing this to create biological weapons. Either way, stop immediately. Um, so that strikes me as just absolutely moronic. um the especially now that we have the ability to simulate like protein folding and things like that. So we if we can't already we are getting very very close to a world in which we can simulate viruses and how they would mutate and what you would need to do to protect against that. Um the other thing that's going on here is that you have people that are on a team and they are going to go to bat for their team no matter what. And Jay Bodacharia, the director of the NIH, was put there by Trump. And the people that walked out just are political and they're not going to uh be there for that. And that to me is crazy town. The way that people ought to be parsing the world is what's true. What's true? I just want to know what's true. And the second that anybody finds themselves feeling defensive because somebody is saying a thing about you that you don't like is true. It's like you want to you want to hit pause immediately and go, is there any truth to this? Because if there's truth to this, I've got an opportunity to get better. But some people, man, they they literally don't want to know what's true. It's like they're being driven by their emotions type thing for sure. But there I think there's an evolutionary impulse to seek control of the environment. That the way that an animal stays alive is by finding ways to control their environment. I think the reason that the human is the ultimate apex predator is because we are unimaginably good at going into any environment and controlling it. Doesn't matter if it's the Arctic, the ocean, uh obviously dry land, like we can go in and conquer any area, make it safe, we can enslave anything, including ourselves, just absolutely bananas. And because of that impulse for control, um people are always trying to find a way to [Music] um frame, create a narrative, bamboozle, shut down. And so this idea of um you're not an expert, what do you know? Uh you're just a Trump plant, what do you know? But ultimately, these are people playing a game of control. They want to silence him. You're going to see this forever on everything that when somebody's touching on something that threatens somebody's control or sense of identity, they're going to take a hard pass and they will try to shut it down. And while I understand why people get unnerved by quote unquote misinformation, shutting down people's quest for truth is far more dangerous than misinformation will ever be. And the hardest hitting story, and I share this in the deep dive that I did, is the Ignes Sumlowise. He's working in a hospital. There's two clinics in the same building. One of them has a death rate five times higher than the other one. They're in the same building. And so he's like, "Okay, there's clearly a reason. So what's the reason?" And he realizes, "Oh, it's because they're doing autopsies in the morning and then delivering babies in the afternoon and they don't wash their hands." And so there's something that they're spreading from doing the autopsies. And so basically he discovers germ theory and he does a test and he makes the doctors in the high death rate clinic wash their hands with this special solution between doing the autopsies and delivering babies and the death rate plummets. Doesn't drop. It plummets. It goes from I think over 10% to under 2%. Just massive. And do they celebrate him? No. They drive him out of medicine. They ridicule him. He ultimately ends up dying alone in an insane asylum because they hounded him that far because they couldn't bear the thought that they were the reason that all those women had died. And to not It took 20 years before the evidence just mounted to the point where they couldn't deny it anymore. How many more women died in those 20 years because they didn't want to go, "Oh, maybe I've done something wrong." People's inability to go, "Maybe I was stupid. Maybe I was wrong. This is really embarrassing. This is going to hurt my career." or whatever that inability because it breaks your hold on control, your control of how you see yourself, your control over other people because you're now not the authority. People can't do it. And that that is but one. I I created an entire list of all the not all, a very partial list of examples that I could quickly come up with. Uh and the list was way too long to include everything. It was just absolutely ridiculous. You could go on and on and on and on and on for days. The earliest example of this is Socrates killed for um questioning traditional beliefs in ancient Athens and goes on up through today. It's just absolutely bananas. So that is while gain of function research is horrifying and terrifying. The part that jumps out to me here is you've got some very substantive percentage of the people at the National Institute of Health that don't want to know if they had any involvement in [ __ ] creating CO. That is so insane to me. Like if it was me personally, I did it. I'd be like, "Yo, we got to know because we can't [ __ ] repeat this." Mhm. So, ah yeah, it's almost like they don't support him, so they don't even think he's worth listening to. And that fallacy can have consequences that ultimately hurt them. Like if you turn your back because that's the slide of hand for sure. That's the thing they use to pull off the magic trick. But the magic trick is silencing people. What they're trying to do is take control. They are trying to make sure only the right people get to talk and only the approved narratives get to move forward. And the way that people talk about this is like it's annoying or it's frustrating instead of it being an absolute catastrophe. It is a catastrophe that will rear its head in so many ways that cause people to die. It It's the wrong impulse. And if I need to just appeal to people's greed, if you can map cause and effect, you can make yourself tremendously wealthy. If you can map cause and effect, you can make yourself tremendously healthy in the marketplace in general. Just if you understand cause and effect, you can build a business. If you understand cause and effect, you can invest in markets. Markets are very very complex. So, it's it's a lot harder to understand the cause and effect there just because there's so much noise. Um, but yeah, you can get things right enough. I will round it to once you understand that, oh, money's fake. Money is purely debt. Purely debt. There's nothing but debt. Debt, debt, debt. I I I mean that literally. There's nothing but debt. Every single dollar in the economy is based on debt was created. That's it. There's no original dollar. It's not based on gold. It's all debt. If you paid off all the debt, there would be no money. Anyway, I won't ask people to believe me even though it's true. Uh, all they need to understand is since money is not real and it can be made up out of thin air, but if it's made at a greater rate, then there are new things to buy, which it almost always is. Uh, then the purchasing power of that goes down and the only thing that runs parallel to that are the things that you could have bought with that money. So that somebody else might want to buy a house, gold, art, stocks, bonds, yada yada yada. Those things will go up in value. And so once you understand, oh, I get it. Cool. I need to own assets. Awesome. You just saved yourself in the last 5 years, you would have saved yourself 25% of your money, your purchasing power. But that's just in the last five years. In the last hundred years, you would have saved Drew, it's it's something like 99.9%. It's unbelievable. Yeah. If you think about it in terms of like gas used to be a nickel a gallon and now it's like five bucks. There are people alive today that if somebody had given them $100 when they were born, it would effectively be worth like, I don't know, a penny or 10 cents or something. Yeah, that's enough. I got nothing for it. I got nothing for that. Uh controversial. Yeah. a controversial scientist in China who did germline editing is now not able to leave the country and his wife is not able to enter the country. Um, this reads like straight up like a conspiracy theory like manifesto, but I'm I'm trying to like parse it. So, like give us the playbyplay of what's exactly going on here. Okay. Uh, so I'm not entirely sure what the right way to read this is. I think that we're going to get this over time. So, I'll walk people through the facts. Uh, so his name is Hei Jianqui. I don't know if that's exactly how you pronounce it. Obviously, he's Chinese, but uh, that'll get you close enough. Um, he posted recently on X that Xiinping took his passport. Why? I don't know. But this is the guy that went to prison supposedly for three years. People always say supposedly. This makes me think maybe he really did. Some people are calling this a total false flag and blah blah blah, but I don't know. Um, he did germline editing on twins, which is illegal. The international community hated it. China supposedly hated it. He goes to prison for 3 years. He gets out. He's not allowed to do um fertility stuff anymore. Mhm. So, we started working on Alzheimer's and supposedly, again, this is where we're like, we're going to need more time for all this to come out, but supposedly has a germline way to address Alzheimer's. And so, uh, people are hypothesizing, again, very early, very early, people are hypothesizing that, um, the Chinese government is worried about what they see in his research, doesn't think he's abiding by the restrictions that they put on him or something. Uh, and so they're trying to clamp down. Could they be clamping down because they think that it's too big, that it's like such a potent breakthrough and he's now married to an American and they don't want the um, information escaping? I have no idea. Um, so this will be something that I'll watch closely. Germline editing, I want to be very clear, is a terrible idea. We should absolutely not be doing it. But I very much want to learn what the possibilities are. So that the because the only reason I say that this is bad is we just don't know the second, third, fourth, or fifth order consequences to all of this stuff. Like what's going to be the knock-on effect? But man, if we could map that out and we knew with a high degree of certainty that we could make people more resilient to radiation, make people more resilient to Alzheimer's, make people more resilient to sugar, like whatever whatever whatever. Um, okay. So, just just a level set. This is not like crisper we're talking about. Technically, he uses a different uh modality. But that to me is somewhat irrelevant. Same idea. You go in, you edit the genes, but um the the thing that's different isn't crisper, not crisper. It's editing the gene of an individual person or editing the genes that get passed on in the sperm and egg. Oh, like the reproductive correct. So if you edit what gets passed on in the sperm and egg, now they then pass it on and they pass it on and they pass. This is now a new trait inside the gene pool. So imagine it's bad and that the two twin girls that he did the germline editing on for supposedly u resistance to HIV, let's say that at 35 their head explodes. And but let's say that they each have seven kids before they reach 35 who all carry the gene. And then those kids now either are like, well, we can't have kids cuz mom's head exploded when she was 35. uh or they also have kids and now those kids have to watch their mom's head explode blah blah blah. Obviously that that's an extreme example, but that's what people are worried about is whoa once something works its way into the gene pool you can have a real problem unwinding that. Um but if you're just doing something on an individual then it's like if it goes horribly arai and they turn to mush and die it's like well sucks obviously a tragedy but it's one person. Is this similar to the what's the saying asylum guy with it? Semmoise. Semmoise. Is this similar to Simoise's situation where maybe he's just too early? That is literally what his wife said. She didn't say Simma Weise, but she's like, "My husband is a heretic. I understand that. It's one of the reasons that I love him, but like he stands for what he believes in. He's 10 toes down. He believes that this is like exactly how you're going to make humanity better." And so shouldn't say he's gonna keep doing it, but like that was the implication was like he's brilliant. Stop [ __ ] with him. These are me injecting a lot here, but he's brilliant. Stop [ __ ] with him. Let him do his thing. Like he sees things that other people don't see. He's not going to give up on this kind of science. He's going to keep trying to push this forward. And um again, if he I mean, look, he already edited humans. like he already did the thing that you're not supposed to do. So, it's like you can't exactly give him a lot of like trust, but boy do I want somebody of that level um of intellect to at least be doing research so that people can learn. And he was saying like, again, this is all early, but he was saying he what he's doing now, he's not going to implant any embryos. There's no way that this is like going to go on to be a thing um in terms of it entering the gene pool, but we'll see. But dude, this is one of those that um people won't pay attention to because they don't understand gene editing and all that. They don't understand the difference between germ line and not uh but whoa is this like gene editing and AI are the things. There's literally nothing else. Those two things are going, one or both of them is going to change the world fundamentally. Let's give ourselves a really long timeline in the next 100 years. Like profound. They will bring about a religious war. One of those two things for sure. And by the way, if anybody thought I was crazy, we didn't cover it, but there was that bombing at the IVF. Uh IVF. I look, I don't know the details, but I have a feeling that that's going to be somebody who just thinks you're playing God, and you've got to stop. I think you're going to see more and more of that. That will r when you have stuff like this where you've got like a clinic outputting germline edited babies. Forget it. People are going to go nuts. It But like what's the difference between this and clinical trials? Like if somebody consents they want to try it, they want to be the test dummy guinea pig. Like I don't know enough about what he's actually doing to answer that. Again, the big beef with him is purely germline versus not. But even if an individual human wants to do their own thing, it is an outrage to me that they're not allowed to do that. An outrage. I don't if dude, they will let people have sex change surgery, but they won't let somebody who's dying of cancer like try an experimental treatment. Now, admittedly, that has changed recently, but for God knows how long, like even if you were like begging, please let me enter this trial. I have terminal cancer. they wouldn't let you. I forget when that changed. It's recent. Now you can. But um it's like compassionate use or something like that. But if somebody wanted to alter themselves in any
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