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Europe meets with Zalinsky and then
tells its citizens to stockpile food and
water to prepare for war. The UK bans
ninja swords as Amsterdam suffers
another mass stabbing. Elon raffles off
millions in an attempt to get people to
petition against activist judges. Trump
readies to put 25% tariffs in place on
imported cars. And China urges the US to
stop being an international bully. AI
has what many consider its biggest day
ever. Rogan sparks debate with an
antivax guest. And in conspiracy corner,
Argentina is supposedly going to
declassify documents to prove Hitler did
indeed successfully escape Germany.
True. Uh the Europeans are taking
Trump's behavior to mean that they
really are going to have to take care of
their own security. But telling people
to stockpile food and water seems a wee
bit extreme in my opinion. It's
hilarious because everybody was like,
"Oh, if US goes to [ __ ] I'm going to go
to Europe." And now they're like, "Oh,
Europe's going to [ __ ] I'm coming back
to the US. Canada's safe. Australia,
y'all taking people? We need to find
someone." Man, it is uh that was a very
surprising headline. At first, I was
like, "There's no way." Um to make sure
the people see beyond the sensational
headline. I think the takeaway here is
we're going to have to be prepared to
take care of ourselves. I don't know
that there's a link between their
meeting with Zilinski and this. Um but
clearly in Russia, sorry, in Europe, the
big threat is Russia. Um, so I don't
know if there's a knock-on effect and
they feel like we really have to go to
bat for Zalinski. If the right way to
read Europe's behavior is a one-two
punch between America's not coming to
save us, we have to have a totally
different military strategy. Uh, and by
the way, we feel like we really do have
to back Zillinsky because we think that
uh Putin is territorial in nature, not
that this is a response to NATO. I don't
know how to read it, but I know that
this is not deescalatory.
Well, they have met and their official
commitment has been from the British
Army, Germany, and French army that they
will stand with Ukraine. They're kind of
doing it as a supporting countries
initiative. So, I don't think they're
necessarily saying the EU is going to
give Ukraine the security guarantees. I
feel like they were trying to like
toetap around tiptoe around NATO and
certain dialogue and certain usage. But
uh French President Mccron has said that
they are stepping up to the plate. And
then coincidentally, the European
Commission then urged its citizens to
stockpile for up to 72 hours just in
case something happens, including
climate change or disasters. It may be
war, but climate change in disasters.
So, I'm not going to say they're
connected, but it's convenient. Yeah. Uh
this
is because this all plays out so slowly,
it really is easy to get used to the
fact that we're at this heightened level
of alertness. But if you start looking
at all the different ships that are on
the table, uh you've got US taking uh an
aggressive America first posture,
beginning to alienate many of their
allies. You've got uh Russia and Ukraine
still at war. You've got Israel and Gaza
still at war. You've got bombs being
dropped daily on the Houthis, uh, which
is an Iranian proxy. Um, it's things are
not settling down. You've certainly got
things heating up between the US and
China. China specifically calling out
the US and obviously this is after they
said we're here for any kind of war that
you want to have. Um, and now saying the
US is being a bully on the international
stage. Everything just feels up in the
air in a way that I don't love. uh would
be great to see things begin to calm
down, but in a populist moment, I that's
not in the cards for me. I don't think
that this um gets better magically. This
is going to hit maximum pain before
people start backing off. And just to
kind of book in your China bully
comment, this is from the China MFA
spokesperson spokesperson. They tweeted,
"The US spreads disinformation on
so-called China's predatory practices to
sew discord between China and other
countries. Such malicious attempts will
never succeed. Investment cooperation
between China and the rest of the world
is based on mutual respect, equality and
mutual benefit, openness and mutual
accommodation and win-win results. We
respect the will of our partners,
countries, and the cooperation greatly
boosted their economic development,
improves people livelihood, and
delivered tangibly to the local people.
There's nothing to support the so-called
debt trap narrative. The world can see
clearly who exactly is being coercive
and predatory. We urge the US to reflect
on what it has done to developing
countries in Latin America and the
Caribbean through bullying and predatory
behavior and stop vilifying
China. We're going to live through the
moment whether we want to or not. This
is uh through Cidity's trap everybody
happening in slow motion right before
our very eyes. And the question is what
are going to be the offramps? And right
now I don't see offramps. I see
escalation. I see the US continuing to
be punitive with sanctions and the like.
I think that we have to do some of that
in order to bring manufacturing back
because the reality is that when you're
in a cold war with your uh with a a
known adversary who right now controls
basically all of the globe's
manufacturing, you simply cannot let
that be. Uh and that if we don't show
that we have the ability to bring up our
manufacturing base, China's going to
know that they're in a better and better
position by the day. I think we'd be in
a much darker position if China's
economy hadn't gotten weakened. Uh so
yeah, we've got to make moves right now
to shore up our manufacturing base, but
that's going to continue to look um
antagonistic towards China as you begin
to court
TSMC. I'm pretty sure that that is a
call sign. Uh so yeah, given that it's
the hot spot over Taiwan, um man, this
is going to be interesting. And China
has for years been running a strategy of
building up their allies and America is
taking right now the exact opposite
approach. Do you think that this will
have long-term impact on the market
itself? Like I'm sure everybody says
yes, tariffs is a consumer tax. I
understand kind of the talking points
that we're hearing a lot, but I know we
often talk about the free market and
just some businesses should fail, some
businesses should be propped up. I get
that we need to bring Who says some
business? You mean the public at large?
some there are certain things for the
betterment of global security that we
need to bring back. So we do have those
trade-offs. Right. Right. Um but to me
and this is on the back of Trump
announcing that if you get a loan to buy
a car made in the USA, you can conduct
interest payments from income tax. So
fundamentally, he's artificially
lowering the price of goods made in the
USA to compete with the tariffs and the
raised prices of the foreign cars that
now have that 20% tax for lack of a
better term on top of it. Do you think
that would kind of muddy the water? Is
that the wrong incentive to put or is
that the right directional incentive
even though of course everything has
second and third order consequences?
Well, we have to bring manufacturing
back to the US. And if one of the areas
that we think is the core industry
that's going to allow us to bring back
that technical know-how, that
manufacturing base, uh, is the
automotive industry, then this is a
great move. It's going to incentivize
car makers, uh, to bring their
manufacturing back here. It's going to
give Americans a flight from uh, rising
car prices. And this is where it is very
important that people understand the
difference between inflation and a given
item's price going up. So um BYD cars
being ridiculously expensive in the US
is not inflation. The entire car
industry going up uh would certainly be
inflation in the car industry. But once
you realize that inflation has a 0.9
correlation to the printing of money,
you realize that they are the same
phenomena. but that prices will go up
for reasons that are not tied to the
actual inflating the money supply. Um
Howard Lutnik did a great interview on
this with the guys on the All-In podcast
and he said, "Listen, there are going to
be things that we're going to do from a
tariff perspective that will make an
individual um products price go up. But
if you're given an Americanmade
alternative, then to say that that's
inflation just isn't accurate." And I'll
agree with him on that. And if they're
able to pull that off, it's not that you
can't get a car for the price that you
would have been able to previously. It's
you may not be able to get the car you
want at the price. Now, whether that
spins the American voter out of control
and they're like, "Hey, I'm not here for
this. I want to get my BYD car and I'm
sick of you trying to force me to buy a
Ford or Chevrolet or whatever." Um, that
could be the reaction. Again, this is
all a race towards the midterms. Is
Trump going to be able to deliver enough
uh wins, economic wins to the American
people in the form of jobs or reduction
in taxes or reduction in prices that the
American people feel like, yeah, you're
fighting for me and this is going in the
direction that I want or is it going to
be a lot of um political maneuvering
that's going to pay off maybe in five to
10 years, but by midterms they're like,
"Hey, get this guy out of here. He's
making everything more expensive. He's
making me buy an inferior car simply
because it's Americanmade." I'm saying
this is perception. Not that I'm saying
American cars are inferior, but I am
saying that doing this kind of thing
will reduce innovation because it
reduces competition. And I think that we
have reason to do that given what I said
about the cold war between America and
China. But I certainly understand uh
that that could play out in a way that
the public doesn't want. Yeah. And then
specifically offering the deduct
interest payments from income tax. I
feel like that's a cute way to kind of
lower the price of something without
necessarily stepping in front of, you
know, directly doing price fixes or
things like that. So, that is a lever
that I think Trump was smart to play
doing it on the tax side versus trying
to if you have a a Ford, you now pay
10,000s less, and if you buy BMW or BYD,
you now have to pay $5,000 more. So, I I
do think it's kind of like a backdoor
way to kind of help with that cost. Um,
I don't even know if it's back door. I
mean, he's trying to make it as front
door as humanly possible. And I think
this is very smart in if you're trying
to map the way that Trump thinks, he is
legitimately trying to make sure that
the average American has more money in
their pocket in ways that he can bang on
about. Um, so his messaging is very
simple. I am taxing the other guys
because they have been taking advantage
of us for years. You, dear American
citizen, have been getting ripped off
for years. and all the presidents before
me, including first term me, uh, were
not doing nearly enough to address this
issue. I'm going to do that. And because
I understand that that's going to make
other cars more expensive, I'm going to
give you increased reasons to buy
American because we're going to not only
make the other thing more expensive,
we're going to make the American thing
even cheaper than it was before. So,
you're not losing, you're winning. As
long as you don't mind buying
Americanmade goods. Now, in a populist
moment, there's a lot of logic to that.
And I think that the way that people are
going to respond is if you don't already
hate Donald Trump, because if you hate
him, nothing's going to matter. But if
you don't already hate him, this is
going to be a win. And they're trying to
keep winning by getting activist judges
out of this is this is weird and this
it's rubbing me the wrong way. So, I'm
just going to read the headline and we
can get into the we could like talk
about it. But Elon tweeted he's excited
to announce our first million-dollar
award for supporting our petition
against activist judges in Wisconsin.
Next million-dollar award will be
announced in two days. This is from his
America pack. This is the same pack that
he used during the election to
incentivize people to register for vote
in certain swing states. Yeah, you
should read the original post from
uh is it just America or call sign?
Yeah, at America. Wow, not bad. Scott A
from Green Bay, Wisconsin is the first
million-dollar spokesperson for signing
our petition in of opposition to
activist judges. Stay tuned between now
and April 1st for more surprise
announcements from Wisconsin. So the
petition in opposition to activist
judges. Judges should not interpret laws
should interpret laws as written, not
rewrite them to fit their personal or
political agendas. By signing below, I'm
rejecting the actions of activist judges
who impose their own views and demanding
a judiciary that respects its role
interpreting, not legislating.
Okay,
so your instinct to hate this certainly
aligns with my instinct to hate this.
And I will be very curious to see what
people say in the comments because this
one just seems crazy to me. I hated it
when he was doing it during the
election, him being Elon Musk. Um, and I
I am a fan of Elon Musk in terms of what
he's done in the business world. I'm
excited to see him get involved in
politics. Uh, I'm hyper aware of how
much people hate him. I'm hyper aware of
how much hate I get for um speaking well
of him, but this I hated then, I hate
now. Um I agree with the statement in
this petition. Judges should interpret
laws as written, not rewrite them to fit
their personal or political agenda. That
is correct. Uh that is the role of the
judiciary is to say this is what the
constitution says. And given that they
couldn't account for every conceivable
edge case that we could imagine, we've
got the legislative branch to tell us
whether this stuff matches the laws as
written or not. That's what they're
meant to do. You don't want them
inserting their own political bias. Uh
however, give giving people a financial
incentive to take action to sign the
petition optically is so gross. It's so
gross as to not be worth doing. Using
your platform to draw attention to
something, I love that the most. Uh but
giving people a financial incentive to
do it, I it hits me wrong on a thousand
levels. So, I would very much love if
they stop doing this. This feels like,
well, money's allowed in politics, so
let's just find more and more ways to
put more and more money into politics.
If we can all agree that it's gross, I
want to see us all moving in the exact
opposite direction, trying to get money
out of politics, calling it out when
people are doing it, not doubling down.
Now, deal with the world the way that it
is, not the way that you wish it would
be. So, I get it when the other side is
doing
it, but I hate it. I want to see this
stop on both sides of the aisle. I don't
mean to be an extremist. Um, I am not
captain founding fathers. They didn't
include black people or women in all
those nice statements. So, by no means
am I saying those guys were perfect. But
what I am saying is we have three
branches of government for a reason. And
that's why Congress can do what they
want and then the House has to say what
they give their uh opinion. The
president can do what it wants, but it
has to submit to the Senate. And you
know, and if both of those guys get on
the same page, guess what? That's when
the judges come in and say, "Hey guys,
maybe you guys are are there's three
branches for a reason. If Trump is
really adamant about whatever law or
bill that he's trying to pass and all
the local judges say no, kick it up to
the federal level that him and Biden,
every other president gets to appoint.
And then people that you appointed in
the past or now still say no, then you
got to kick it up to the Supreme Court.
So, we already have levels and
foundations and outlets for people to
advocate for bills and things that they
want to get passed. To me, this is
skipping the line. I know better. You
guys don't. I have a bunch of money.
let's just get these guys out of here so
that way they can get out of our way and
we can speed this process up. I agree
with that in the abstract. We do however
have the issue of when we see activist
judges, what is going to be the method
that we uh begin to root that out. And
so my complaint is there should be a
process for that. There is a process for
that. You can impeach a judge, but you
have to be very careful that you're not
just doing that because you don't like
their take. Um, getting people aware of
what's going on, getting the American
people to weigh in on whether they think
this is activist judges or not, I think
is fantastic. And I want people to look
at that and I want the American people
to decide if these are judges that they
want to see continue or if they think
that people are overstepping and then
the process can play out the way that
it's meant to be. Um I don't remember
the exact numbers that you have to have
to impeach a judge, but there's a
process and we should go through that.
And again, if we as the people look at
that and say, "Okay, this uh falls into
that, then you lobby your um you lo you
lobby the legislative branch to get them
to take action." Fantastic. Uh but
putting money into it is where this
begins to break apart for me. So I don't
want to be Polyiana and say that I don't
get the marketing aspect of it all. I
don't want to pretend that I don't
understand that this uh is anything
other than just a petition. It's just a
petition. So much like paying somebody
to register to vote is not the same as
paying them to vote in a certain way.
You're just saying, "Hey, I'll take my
chances. I just want people to be
registered." I still think it's
terrible. Um, I get that this is just a
petition, but I still think in a world
where everybody, not everybody, where
there is such a ground swell of
resentment around the amount of money
that's in politics, this just further
exacerbates that wound and it just won't
let it heal. Um, so anyway, my one
appeal to the American people is we need
to get money out of politics on both
sides. I would love to see that become
part of the conversation here as well is
like we've got to separate these things
out. Either the American people care
enough to speak up about this thing uh
or they don't and we're using money to
make them care about something that
inherently they just don't think there's
a big problem. Yep. Citizens United. We
need to get it out of here. Um this next
story I thought I was watching Nintendo
Direct. I was like, "Oh, this is the new
Metro Prime." Nope. This is Modern
Warfare in real life. So, Epyrus and
Palunteer signed up to do microwave
drone defense technology, which pretty
much is kind of like a EMP that you
direct at them. Um, I know Tom, you
always have this scenario of like 15,000
drones come and they all just drop a
little bomb and if you do that, you
could take out a base, you could take
out a state, you could take out a city
and this weapon literally guards against
that. It's pretty much, it looks like a
flat panel and it just kind of zaps
anything microwaves them to death.
anything in that electric uh any
electrical in that direction, full stop.
It stops. So, this is the future of
weapon technology. It's interesting to
me. I think it's, you know, the sci-fi
action movie kid in me is loving this
cuz we always were wondering when we're
going to get the laser weapons and all
these other things. So, it seems like
we're slowly getting into that
direction. What's your opinion? always
make me sad that pornography and warfare
are the things that generate the most
advances, but the reality is that
pornography and warfare generate
advances. And so seeing this stuff come
to fruition. This is the cat-and- mouse
game that will forever be played. Um,
this makes me think about AI and people
are worried that it's going to be used
by the bad guys. It will, but it will
also be used by the good guys. Same with
drone technology. We will continue to
innovate. If we play our cards right and
don't try to out China China and instead
we out America China, I think that we'll
be able to um create some absolutely
breathtaking innovations uh in the space
of warfare. I think one of the most
interesting things about this story for
me is getting people to look at some of
the best and brightest that made just an
absolute [ __ ] ton of money in the tech
boom uh of Silicon Valley have turned to
weapons. You've got Peter Teal, part of
the PayPal mafia. Uh one of the first,
if not the first investor in Facebook.
You've got the guy that created Oculus
Rift, uh that ended up getting purchased
by Meta, Lucky Palmer. uh both of them
going down the weapons path. If you see
I'm blanking on his name right now. Uh
but the CEO of Palunteer, Alex Karp,
maybe I think that's correct. Uh like
hippie background, like just not the guy
you would expect to go into the
military. This is the moment that we're
in. And these were guys that were very
cleareyed about what was happening long
before people started talking about it.
Thinking from first principles,
understanding where this is headed and
saying, "Okay, we have to head this off
at the past." Uh, and so I am admittedly
given a lot of comfort by the fact that
the greatest innovators of our
generation, some of them are realizing,
hey, we've got to be protective of
America. We've got to go in and make
sure that we ourselves are prepared.
Um, I'll put a period there. Now,
starting a new paragraph when I look at
the difference in the response between
Europe and the way that they're
responding to, um, what's going on there
with Russia and it's like, uh, stockpile
food and water, banning ninja swords. A
real headline, Kira Starharma, the prime
minister of the UK, said we're banning,
uh, ninja swords. That's their response.
The US response is uh [ __ ] around and
find out. Building these incredible
weapons, innovating on that front.
Now, for the average person, I do not
expect that to be a very popular take
because I think people would much rather
pretend that they don't live in a
hyperviolent world. Um, but given that
we do live in a world where there's
nobody, there's no final judge to go to,
the only final judge is I can stop you
from [ __ ] with me.
Um, seeing this level of innovation is
comforting if nothing else. But on a
somber note, there was a mass stabbing
that happened um this morning. Um, have
we been able to get any more
information? As of the time that we're
recording this, it seems uh unknown. the
only in terms of what happened. Uh there
is a current unverified claim that uh
the person that did it might have been
part of the Vagner group. I think
everybody's initial like if you look at
all the memes that were popping off in
the feed, it was all an assumption that
this was going to be uh an Islamist
extremist. So I don't know if that ends
up playing out. Certainly the
Netherlands have had their problem
there. It's unknown at this time. But
the one thing coming off in the feed
anyway was that it was somebody tied to
Vagner. It's all super unconfirmed.
Definitely a breaking news environment.
Um but at least five people have been
stabbed. So wishing the best for them.
It's just this isn't funny, but like
mass stabbing is just a crazy headline
to me. Um well, what I hope people take
away from that is that people are going
to find a way to kill other people. Now,
if you look at the numbers, America just
kills the most. So, let's not fool
ourselves into thinking that having all
the weapons that we have does not have
the second and third order consequences
of you can do a lot of damage uh with a
machine gun that you can't do with a
sword, but people will find a way. And
that's why um the talk of like banning
ninja sword like did nobody stop him
just saying it like that is so stupid.
Um swords don't kill people, ninjas kill
people. So, uh, the reality is that if
you want to stop this kind of thing,
then this is going to take a better
police force. This is going to take, uh,
surveillance to find out, okay, where is
this going on? Having quick response
forces, um, addressing underlying
whatever the underlying issue is that's
creating the violence. Um, so yeah, I
don't think you're ever going to get
violence to zero. I've lived in America
far too long to think that that's a
reality.
Um, but their response just strikes me
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100%. It's it's unfortunate, but in
lighter news, AI had one of its biggest
days yesterday. You could tell by our
thumbnail that is studio Giblied Out. um
that was kind of the number one thing
that came out um yesterday, but there
were so many other volume but in terms
of like depth of like yo that's what I
mean there was so many actual like
breakthroughs that happened but it was
just people wanted to make memes all day
um internet um so Google dropped Gemini
2.5 their most intelligent AI model ever
to your point that you made in the last
episode we're just going to keep
leaprogging so when this company just
released their next breakthrough this
other company's racing we at like a nine
it's company sprint at this point. How
fast it happens. It's nuts. Like the
This is what 300% year-over-year
improvement looks like. It's almost a
percentage point a day. That means,
dude, in like two weeks, you're at
10%. That's noticeable, which is why it
feels like, man, it's almost a full-time
job just to keep up with the innovations
that are coming out. I literally can't
test everything that comes out. There's
just too much of it between running a
company and living a normal life. It's
like, man, as much time as I put into
really trying to be at the cutting edge
of this from an like I'm actually
experiencing these things, you can't.
It's just coming out too fast, man. It
is only the human mind's ability to bury
one's own head in the sand and just
pretend that this isn't happening that I
think stops people from being so dizzy
they can't stand up straight. 100%. And
just as we're talking about Gemini's new
drop, uh, DeepSeek released V3. And
Deepseek broke the internet two and a
half months ago, which feels like a
lifetime ago. And they're already at V3
competing with models 10x their cost.
Um, OpenAI released this image
generation, which by the way, there's a
reason that popped off. The that is a
step function order of
magnitude improvement. Mhm. It went
from creating an image. You could tell
in the way that a caricature represents
a person. You can tell, oh, if they they
have big ears, short spiky hair, black
glasses, that's meant to be Tom. Um, it
went from that to like actually Tom.
Yeah, it's crazy. And regardless of
style, it could mimic the style off of
10 images. It could mimic the style. It
could uh give you character consistency.
It it was startling. So I am not at all
surprised that people's feeds. It at one
point my feed was so like just Ghibli
memes that I was like wait did I click
inside of a post or is this actually
that many people? So there was a a
moment that happened that people could
feel that change. It's nuts. U this is
the one I kind of wanted to drill down
though on though. A new AI model titled
ECGMLP detects endometrial cancer with a
99.2% accuracy. Now, I know that that's
crazy, but the last model was at 80%.
So, it seems that in the in the time
frame 80% was a crazy amount to be able
to detect cancer so much earlier. Now,
we're at 99.26. Like, it's just getting
closer and closer. Um, it also detects
colarctyl. It's rectal. Yeah. Yeah. It's
not a um breast and oral cancers with
97% accuracy as well. So these are the
breakthroughs I like to kind of spend
time on cuz yes, I'd love a good meme.
But as much as we're making progress in
vibe coding, in image generation, we're
also making progress in cancer detection
and some real fundamental things. So
this is where Brian Johnson and the
whole don't die movement is coming from.
I was literally thinking about this
today as I'm about to go to Vegas for a
weekend and shorten my life expectancy.
Uh is he's like, "Hold on. AI is so
radically transformative. All the things
that have just been too mysterious for
us to navigate our way through
historically are about to be knowable.
Um I don't know if AO is used but they
recently mapped the mitochondrial system
in the brain and partly because it looks
like Alzheimer's and other forms of
dementia are going to prove to be an
energy system problem. And so when you
start injecting AI into these hyper
complex systems that are still
ultimately just about recognizing
patterns, you start to
realize if we can map all the patterns,
we can then do interventions that will
work at the end of one level, meaning a
literal individual
uh individually customized treatment for
specifically you and the specific thing
that you're struggling with which will
radically improve people's
responses. And if you can, all you have
to do is extend human life by
1.01 years for every year that um you're
doing the research. So that your rate of
dying is surpassed by the rate of life
extension.
And when you see breakthroughs like this
happen so fast on top of each other. I
mean this is like the fourth or fifth
medical breakthrough I've seen in the
last three weeks.
So AI is as bad as it will ever be. It
will never be this bad again. It is only
going to get better. The breakthroughs
that we've gotten are like the lamest
breakthroughs that we're going to get.
And you're only going to get more and
more and better breakthroughs.
So given all of that, I actually get
what Brian Johnson is trying to tell
people. He's like, if you live a
protective life, so if you're doing the
things that would naturally make you
more likely to be 85 years old, let's
say, uh, in that for me that would be
like 36 years. So in the next 36 years
you will cross that life
extension ratio what they call uh
longevity escape velocity so that for
every day that you live they're
extending life by more than a day. And
if that's true then you actually can get
to the point where you can live forever.
now cue um a lot of religious
philosophical push back and I think it's
actually an interesting argument to be
had
but I can feel that sense of being on
the event horizon of like huh maybe we
really can live forever maybe the future
really is so different than the present
that I I can't even hope to get close to
mapping what it's actually going to be
like it's pretty surreal I take the leap
of faith and it is faith that it's going
to be awesome but it's going to be
different.
It's fundamentally changing how we think
about health. And then on the other side
we have another breakthrough where
Zapier introduced its MCP protocol. I
love this which means it allows AI
assistants to interact directly with up
to 8,000 plus apps. So no complex API
backend integrations. It can literally
hit auto like autoplay almost. This can
also fundamentally change business when
you have your AI agents able to send
emails, receive emails, send marketing
lists. Um, I can now see everything that
happens inside of my computer being
automated. It's like kind of one of
those spy movies where you see the
computer doing stuff and bringing a
bunch of things up and sending and
receiving. Like if I can send a note
email and there's Gmail, there's
Outlook, there's marketing list, there's
social post, a lot of these things can
now be tied directly to a AI agent. That
should fundamentally change how we do
business. Just like the event horizon
that we're seeing with health
approaching, too. This one's gonna be
shocking, like shocking. Uh to walk
people through what this is actually
going to mean right now. An AI will try
to do things for you, but it will, let's
say, encounter your calendar app and
it'll be like, I can't see your calendar
app. If you tell me what's in your
calendar app, then I can help you with
XYZ thing. uh it will go like it can
scrape things off the basic web, but if
it goes to the web and it's like buried
in a PDF, it'll be like, "Oh, I'm so
sorry. I can't open the PDF. If you grab
the PDF for me, then I can read it." Um
like Google Docs, I have to export my
Google Doc as a PDF, upload the PDF. Uh
it's like all these little points of
friction, they just all go away because
this becomes a standardized way for AI
to interact with every app basically. So
APIs, which has been the way that this
kind of thing would have happened before
where one application can talk to
another application. APIs are
complicated. They're not impossible, but
you're going to need a tech guy to go in
and be like, "Okay, let me figure this
out." But like with websites, you don't
need that. So if you're building a
website, the website knows one website
to the next website knows if I use TCP
IP, as long as I'm doing that, I'll know
exactly how to go and read that website.
Everything's going to display perfectly.
And so if I'm building a web browser, I
just know know how to read TPC IP. Uh
and everything's going to be fine. And
now they're bringing that to AI. And so
AI agents will be able to do anything
and everything. And I don't know if you
plan to show this, but we came across a
post earlier um where a guy uh who had
been previously telling people that,
hey, you given the AI future that we're
headed towards, you really should learn
at least a little bit about coding. Uh
and now he's like, nope, hard pass. Uh
you do not need to learn how to code.
And so this is Chimath Polyhapatia
responding to that guy saying, u I know.
So it was uh Amjad Msad said, "I no
longer think you should learn to code."
And then he has his whole breakdown of
why. And then Chimath said, "Unfortunate
but accurate. The engineer's role will
be supervisory at best within 18 months.
Building tools for them will be roadkill
for the model makers product roadmap." I
think a better way to say that is model
makers will make roadkill out of any
tools that you build that require
somebody to know coding.
It's just all going to be automated,
man. You're just going to tell an agent,
"Go do this series of things." And now
with this protocol, it'll be like,
"Yeah, I can interface with anything
that has integrated this protocol, which
will be in very short order,
everything."
Full stop. Yeah. I I mean, this is one
of those I'm going to sound like a
broken trump, but it's like the rate of
change is so extreme. It is only because
people are just trying to live their
daily life, have fun with their kids, do
good at their job, get laid a little bit
that they're not noticing like th this
is it is unprecedented in human history.
And to give you an idea, there was a
moth that when the industrial revolution
happened went from white to like dark
gray because there was so much soot in
the atmosphere and that's how fast it
adopt adapted. Th this is going to move
so much faster than something like that.
like this is the rate of adaptation that
we as a human species will have to
deploy to keep up with this is basically
impossible. And so there will come a day
we're going to have to reckon with that
where disruption to jobs, even if it
creates more jobs, those jobs will be so
foreign that all the people that lose
their jobs from the today stuff are
going to be like, "Wait, hold on. What?"
Like imagine over the last 20 years for
sure maybe you'll grant me 40 years more
and more people have been pouring into
coding computer science
baby gone 18 months they just told the
coal people learn to code and now the
coal people are like wait you took my
coal and my code yes yeah all all in one
life man so uh it's going to be awesome
I say as an act of faith But it's going
to be disruptive.
In lighter news, let's put our tinfoil
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this is crazy. All right, so we're we
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today. First, um Oh, you're putting this
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show. Joe Rogan had a guest that
shattered a couple vaccine narratives.
So, Dr. Suzanne Humphre, author of
Dissolving Illusions, reveals what
really made all these polio cases
disappear after the vaccine was
introduced. She also just talked about
the evolution of the pharmaceutical
industry, how laws against um how laws
against lawsuits and holding them
accountable changed throughout time. So,
it wasn't three hours about why vaccines
are bad, but the shape of the industry,
where it went, and some of the things
that came out from those different
legislations that happened. Yeah. So my
takeaway here is um almost completely
unrelated to the vaccine thing because I
would say right now I have no idea. Um
vaccines probably cannot be thought of
something as monolithic. You have to go
in. Some are super helpful. Some are
unnecessary. Uh some are thank god we
had them and changed the course of human
history. And others are like yeah that
was probably a money grab. I'm going to
guess it's going to be something like
that. What I think is so powerful about
this is intimated by the title of her
book, the idea of dissolving illusions.
The thing that made me excited about
this is not that people are talking out
about vaccines. It's that the public
debate is coming back. And during COVID,
there was such a ferocious closing of
the Overton window that I think we did a
massive disservice to humanity by acting
like science is a known thing instead of
a known process. Science is the act of
falsification. It's saying, I believe
this thing to be true, and I'm now going
to run a process to figure out if it is
or isn't. I'm actively trying to say
this thing isn't true. Now the question
is why would you ever want to do that?
Why would you go out of your way to be
like this thing isn't true? Because all
progress depends on you dissolving the
things that you have wrong that and the
reason dissolving is the right word is
we all build a scaffolding that our
world view is clung to. It's what I call
you look up into the night sky and
instead of just seeing random stars you
see constellations. But those
constellations aren't real. It's us
drawing pictures on a bunch of random
dots. But if the pictures that we draw
allow us to navigate the open sea at
night with no landmarks whatsoever and
cross thousands of miles of open ocean,
there's utility to it, even though it is
not objectively true. That's science
saying, "No, no, no, not that
constellation. It was helpful, but it's
not as precise as this." And that
process of being like, "There's a better
way, there's a better way, there's a
better way gets you from constellations
to GPS and satellites." And if you don't
understand it as a process of falsifying
the things you believe, of actively
seeking disisconfirming evidence, you
derange the whole apparatus. And we have
I shudder to think how many millennia we
have been trapped inside of an elite
group of people telling us this is the
right way to think. The scientific
revolution began to unwind that, but we
were still putting people in jail and
killing them. And uh Socrates was forced
to drink hemlock, boys and girls,
because he absolutely refused to back
off and say, "Uh, yeah, you're right.
I'm going to stop encouraging these kids
to think for themselves like crazy."
Literally put him to death because he
was challenging the orthodoxy. And I
don't know how many people we locked up
because they said things like, "The
earth is not the center of the universe
and we revolve around the sun." Uh
so once you understand that science is
the process of saying I know there's
something wrong with my thinking. The
world's awesome. So we've gotten this
far but there's something wrong. And if
I can figure out what's wrong then I can
get a little closer to the truth. And
the truth allows me to innovate. And
innovation is how we pull people out of
poverty and we lower the mortality rates
and all of that stuff. But man co really
brought a couple things together. One,
the human propensity to want to control
the narrative. Two, that social media is
making that virtually impossible. And
now this moment to me is not a yes vax,
novax. This is a everything needs to be
subject to the scientific method. The
process of falsifying things, of letting
people argue in public, of calling
[ __ ] on anybody that's like, you
can't say that, you can't talk about
that. And even when we were talking
about this today during the live, which
boys and girls, if you are watching
this, I hope you will join us for the
lives. Uh they were coming in and
saying, "Tom, you can't you can't don't
even show this conversation. Don't talk
about this. This is
dangerous." And that's a collision of
values. To me, the most dangerous thing
you can do is tell people to shut up.
Now, I get it. It's messy. You're going
to have people arguing for things that
are patently untrue.
and you're going to have to go through
that process. I think the right way is
instead of saying this is the narrative
that we're going to allow to be out
there and we're going to silence all
dissenting voices. instead because you
need a filtering mechanism of some kind.
Rather than that filtering mechanism
being expertise, I would advise people
to say cultural awareness should be the
thing that we use to get our experts to
look at it. Now, I'm not going to say
anything other than uh so I'm not going
to ask people to agree on who the
experts are. Anybody should be able to
talk about it over time. people that
have a history of being able to connect
dots in an effective way, they will rise
to the top. But those people are going
to be limited in their bandwidth. And we
saw this play out with the Terrence
Howard thing. And I was super excited
when I saw Eric Weinstein go on and talk
about it. I'm sure many people were
heranging him. I privately was asking
him, "Please like speak on this." Uh,
and I have to imagine that people like
him, all the big brains in the world
that are like, listen, I only have uh
there's only a certain number of things
that I'm going to be able to talk about
and really do a deep dive on. Um, and I
think the wisest path to follow is
what's the thing that has all the
cultural energy? And if flat earth is
the thing that has all the cultural
energy, then take the time to debunk it.
Don't just be like, "Oh, they're dumb.
They're dumb. They're dumb." uh if
vaccines really are the greatest thing
ever, it has the cultural awareness.
Take the time to go through and say this
is why this doesn't make sense and fight
for your ideas. And given that this the
very thing that has allowed us to
innovate and make progress is the act of
falsifying something, don't get mad when
people are like, "This vaxes are
[ __ ] This is terrible. You're
killing the kids. You're giving them all
autism." And you think, "Fuck, like,
hold on, that isn't true." Great. then
show that it isn't true. But don't be
mad when people try to falsify
something. So I think despite all the
messiness of this era of the velocity
and volume of information that it is way
better than these stagnant top- down
narratives that are under control. Well
said. Counterpoints and everything. I
was about to push back and you kind of
hit them as I was as you were going
through it. So there I love that. All
right. Story number two. Argentina is
releasing all secret documents about
Nazis in South America after 1945. This
one is full. The CIA and FBI reports
confirm that Adolf Hitler escaped to
Argentina after the war and lived until
the late 1950s supposedly. So you're
telling me, Tom, all these blondhaired,
blue-eyed Argentinians.
Argentinians. Argentinians. They're
Nazis. Uh I'm definitely not saying
that, but And the funny thing is Hitler
there with his nice dark hair. Um, so a
this is something that we're talking
about because it has 4.7 million views
and counting. Uh, not because I think
that it's true. So, I'll be very
interested to see, hey, let let the
paperwork come out. But just to be
clear, if I'm going to community note
this, I'm going to say h there's pretty
widespread current consensus, very open
to being falsified. Uh, but there's
current consensus that Hitler shot
himself in the head in a [ __ ] bunker
in Germany. And that's just that. Uh, so
I'll be super curious to see, but I have
a feeling this is a bit like the JFK
files. There's going to be a whole bunch
of like whatever, whatever.
And I think it's pretty widely accepted
that a lot of Nazis did make it to
Argentina. So, we shouldn't need it to
be Hitler to be like, yo, that's pretty
crazy. Um, but yeah, I would be utterly
shocked if we see credible CIA and FBI
reports that are just like, "Yeah,
Hitler's there for sure. Full stop." I
doubt it. Plus, man, listen, I know
people can be a little bit skeptical
about the Jews, but one thing they're
real [ __ ] good at was hunting Nazis.
And so, I have a feeling, why do you
scoff at that? Like the I thought of um
In Glorious Bastards, the Quinton
Tarantino movie when you said that. Oh,
we're going to Yes. That that's where my
mind went. Hunting Jews hunted Jews.
They the they didn't hunt Jews. The Jews
hunted the Nazis. So they Yeah. Read uh
I think it's called Rise Early and Kill.
Uh that's a great one. I'm forgetting
some of the other books that I've read
on this topic, but they they they were
like, "Yo, if you killed a Jew, we are
coming for you." And uh there have been
few groups more
diligent in their efforts to seek
retribution than the MSAD. It's
uh so I have a feeling if Hitler had
been chilling in Argentina, they would
have found it. Uh daily reminder that we
got Hitler files before we got the
Epstein files. That's all I got. Bro,
like the whole Epste files. Do you think
we're going to get them? No. We talking
about Hitler files right now. We're
back. We're deck. We're deck. Yeah,
they're burying that. That's crazy.
Trump's going to come out. Okay. Aliens
live here. My bad. They were in the
oceans the whole time. I know aliens.
They're the best aliens ever. Never seen
anything like it. They like me. They
voted for me. They say, "We can't
believe you're land." That's why we came
out of hiding. I am so sorry that I
can't do impressions. But alas, that
before we get those epine files. All
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