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Putin’s Chilling Mineral Deal Offer: Russia Is Open for Business But At What Cost? | Tom Bilyeu Show
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Putin says Russia is open for business
in the world's weirdest auction videos
supposedly showing Ukrainian men being
kidnapped and sent to the front line
surface on X Elon refuses to tell Rogan
the main method of governmental
corruption because he fears for his life
Trump teases a crypto strategic Reserve
AOC says illegal immigrants are her
constituents sort of while helping
people Dodge ice SpaceX has another
incredible launch Hassan ABI gets a temp
ban on Twitch for a red hot take kaisen
goes for trash talking PewDiePie and the
Oscars well they happened Drew we've got
some really fun stuff to talk about
today in the show but we do have to
start with the really consequential
stuff I'm sensitive to being a negative
Machine Factory like I do worry about
that uh but the reality is we're living
in a super weird moment where my weekend
was spent with um it was spent with
those x videos of people getting um
snatched off the street now I want to be
very clear I cannot confirm that that's
what's going on but we can confirm the
Putin stuff uh and I want to talk about
both so take us there let's go with it
so pulling up a video right now
allegedly this is their recruitment
tactic for Ukraine because they are so
down soldiers that any young man of
drafting age is getting grabbed up off
the street so as you can see from the
video he was walking his dog Two
Soldiers jumped out and pretty much
chased him and again like guys please
somebody in the comments if this is like
a four-year-old video or something uh
but I saw a bunch of these going around
on X this weekend I could not verify uh
by reading the comments that they're
fake um
so yeah um but if anybody and I mean
they're getting views and there were I
saw several of
them but do like do you honestly want
that person fighting for your country
cuz I feel like that they become more of
a liability than like a asset you would
think but there is a long history of
force conscription so this is one of
those you put people in a situation
where it's fight or die and they will
fight um sunza doesn't use these words
but he's got a
concept that has been um articulated as
death ground that you don't want to put
people on death ground where their only
option is to fight because they will
fight and so if you put somebody in a
situation where if you try to Desert
will kill you and if you face the enemy
you better win or they'll kill you now
all of a sudden your only real option is
to fight and to win this is the whole
idea of like burning the ships at the
shore but even in like the Revolutionary
War man they would kill people for
deserting the army so uh you don't want
to play around like it's this is where I
would love to have a show where these
kind of things weren't happening and I
don't feel compelled in my soul to
discuss this stuff uh but the reality is
this is happening right now and the
reason that this really matters to me is
it I keep running the thought experiment
of what if it were China invading
California and they show up and they're
in Los Angeles and now I've really got
to deal with it because this is easy
when it's you know a really long way
away to be like oh it doesn't really
matter politics doesn't affect my
day-to-day life which I think for the
first time in a long time people have
got to feel like that just isn't true
like the rate of change that the Trump
Administration is bringing in the only
time it's ever been even remotely
paralleled was FDR uh and so the rate of
change right now is extremely rapid it's
extremely consequential what's happening
uh good batter and different like change
is upon us and because the world order
is changing and I think it's going to
have
extremely consequential impact over the
next I mean this all gets complicated by
Ai and Robotics but in a normal timeline
over the next call it 30 years this
would be a moment of dramatic upheaval
now um we don't have anything
specific to show people right now but
I've been hearing whispers about um
China is doing like really provocative
testing they didn't know any notify
anybody um uh guys as more information
comes out we'll cover this in depth but
they're like cutting fiber cables that
lead to Taiwan they're doing supposedly
training exercises to be provocative so
it's like we're living in this really
precarious moment right now where um you
had this utter breakdown of negotiations
between Trump and zalinski on Friday I
mean that was fireworks and a half uh
and now you're getting Putin calling out
to people um saying hey we're open for
business on minerals we have way more
minerals than the Ukraine oh and I call
them like new territories like there's a
ton in our new territories that we are
uh we have we have the clip we should
probably just play that clip of uh Putin
talking about this but you put that to
together with seeing these men being
forcibly conscript I mean which is a
euphemism for kidnapped uh and drugged
to the front lines and this moment is
just weird all right this is Putin in
his own words here we would be open to
cooperation with our American partners
and when I say Partners I mean not only
administrative and governmental agencies
but also private companies if they show
interest in working together Russian
possesses significantly I want to stress
this significantly larger resources of
this kind than
Ukraine Russia is one of the uncontested
leaders when it comes to rare and rare
earth metal reserves we have deposits in
the North in he's going to list a bunch
of places in Russia that I won't butcher
uh as well as the Far East in another
place
region more
regions developing these resources es
require substantial capital investment
we would be happy to cooperate with any
foreign Partners including American
companies yes by the way same is true
for the new territories we are open to
foreign
Partnerships so-called new our
historical territories that have become
part of the Russian Federation again
also hold certain reserves we are ready
to work with our partners including
Americans wow man that that one was
chilling and shout out to who brought
that up up to us today in the live um I
am really unnerved by that so okay this
is we we are living in a time of
velocity and volume of information
where with Trump this is even escalate
even more but with social media you're
just able to see this stuff all over the
place but Trump has answered something
like four times more questions in the
first four weeks of his presidency than
Biden answered in the entirety of his
presidency just to give you an idea of
the level of access that we're getting
um I thought it was atrocious to see
Trump Vance and zalinsky go at each
other in full view of the public but
also part of me is so intrigued because
we're we're actually able to see how all
of this stuff works now I think the
cameras are influencing in a way that
makes me uncomfortable but I'm going to
set that aside for a
second um Putin obviously is seeing all
of this and when you take that as a
response to him going oh like you're
trying to get the mineral rights bro
we've got a lot more so whether we take
Ukraine in or the donbass or whatever
region we bring those in hey we're open
for business now this is something that
you saw in the Middle East uh as we were
going from World War I to World War II I
think I can't remember if it's right
before World War I anyway right around
that time period where we realized oh
oil is going to be everything and I
don't think people realize that we just
made that switch like a hundred years
ago I mean this not like super old and
you're now seeing with rare earth
minerals becoming so important for
technology Russia has some of the
deepest deposits of that Ukraine
obviously similar and Putin saying don't
worry if you can't do a deal with
zalinski no sweat come on over here yeah
and so I was like hold on for a while on
the surface not saying that this is ever
what it was below the surface but on the
surface the world was asked to join in a
more debate you had Putin the aggressor
of Russia coming into uh the
Ukraine violating their
sovereignty killing God knows how many
people north of a million people lost
when you combine the two sides some say
Millions I don't know the exact number
but it's way too much and that felt
clear now of course anytime something
seems clear it's probably been
simplified beyond recognition but that
felt clear like I was I understood the
moral AR argument I understood where I
was in this landscape can invade a
Sovereign Nation all bad ice Russia out
this is terrible
now this is Shifting and we're actually
getting into is this what this is really
about like is this a resource grab is
this Putin with territorial uh
inclinations is this about NATO coming
up against the border is it both almost
certainly yes and I'm sure a lot more
things that we don't see and so the
messiness the the morally grotesque
reality of War of real politique of the
strong will do as they they will and the
weak will suffer as they must is playing
out before our eyes and this is I think
the messy reality of a declining
superpower with a rising power in China
who's far more aligned with Russia than
we are and this kind of loop plays out a
lot especially as the US becomes
um
more desperate to get out from under
their debt to project strength at a
moment where their strength is declining
Neil Ferguson the historian has a really
interesting take on this I know the
internet feels some kind of way about
Sam Harris I would not rule him out and
Neil Ferguson on Sam Harris uh in a very
recent episode was talking about if you
read Trump as somebody who believes that
America is actually in a weakened
position suddenly the way that he's
behaving actually makes more sense
somebody who believes they need to
project power need to reestablish power
he makes a lot of sense somebody who
believes that we confidently are just
the strongest the best all that he
starts making a lot less sense and I
kind of get that read so it is a um
a hyper consequential moment in which
the decisions that we make as a nation
are going to matter
tremendously
and
morally this is going to be debated for
the ages should the US have
forced their should the US have forced
Russia onto what they may consider death
ground by moving NATO up to their border
should Russia ever have invaded a
Sovereign Nation when it's a call it a
soft
threat um should we be talking about
mineral rights or should we just be
talking about either borders matter or
they
don't that's kind of where I want to
pull it is back to the war aspect of it
because Donald Trump treated over the
weekend this is the worst statement that
could have been made by zilinsky and
America will not put up for it much
longer is what I was saying this guy
doesn't want to be peace as long as he
has America backing and Europe in the
meeting they had was zalinsky started
flatly that they could stated flatly
that they cannot do the job without the
US probably not a great statement to
have been made in terms of a show of
strength against Russia what are they
thinking so this is in Rea reaction to
zalinski saying that there's the end of
the war with Russia is very very far
away so we were it seemed on the brink
of Peace on Friday to now the war is
very very far away zinsky just booked a
just got a $2.8 billion loan from the UK
to continue the financing the war with
Russia now coming out offering these
mineral rights do we see that this as a
way to kind of end the war do we just is
it just jocking position at this POS at
this point so uh let's play that thought
experiment out for that to be true what
would have to happen is the US would say
yeah we're going to stop funding them
because of course Russia right now we
have iced Russia out as much as humanly
possible it actually didn't work nearly
as well as we thought but we have done
everything we can to ice Russia out of
the um global economic system without
causing a um recession around the world
because of energy costs so it's a
delicate balance but the US has gone way
way way way way out of their way to make
it economically difficult for Russia to
function period full stop so we would
have to back off of that presumably I'm
I'm guessing but if I'm Putin I'm like
Hey we're open for business assuming you
stop [ __ ] trying to annihilate us
economically uh and oh by the way way
like the way that he said Putin is many
things but a fool is not one of them and
when he says that oh these new
territories also have these incredible
deposits he's saying you don't have to
choose you don't have to choose between
the mineral rights in Ukraine uh make a
deal with Russia you get it all you get
dude if we did that yikes okay
admittedly we have we are now leaving
the part that I feel that I'm thoughtful
about into the part where I have an
emotional reaction nobody distrusts
their emotions more than me
but I believe give people a sincere take
a sincere strong take and then people
will think through the problem on their
own they have to uh that really freaks
me out I'm not saying that's not real
politique it is but godamn is it morally
gross so it's saying let us reabsorb
that it gives us NATO distance it gives
you the economic advantage that you want
but it's so in the daylight because this
is what it always has been right it's
always been this it's always been this
with mineral rights with oil whatever
but man do I miss the days where we had
like a cover story and I'm conflicted I
don't know why I like that because
whatever is true is true and you want to
be dealing at the level of truth but I
have this really weird moral discomfort
with just saying the thing I don't know
man it is bananas so anyway I'll have to
Grapple with that everybody listening
will have to Grapple with that uh but I
really really really don't like that now
you've got zalinski and Europe pulling
in a a different direction and Europe
realizing that they may have to go their
own way uh because For the First Time
these guys are really realizing oh wait
Trump their
perspective uh Trump may be so unhinged
he may actually not back up his NATO
alliances and if that's true we've got
to fund our own militaries we've got to
be ready for this history this is not my
quote but I don't remember who said it
history the only consistent part is the
law of unintended
consequences and so there are going to
be all these crazy butterfly knock on
effect of things that we just can't
imagine but if we as the US fracture
from Europe because we don't like the
way that uh they're handling the
negotiations with zilinsky because we
want the mineral rights and we've got a
president now that will feel some kind
of way about zalinski starts icing him
out and acting like zalinski is a
dictator but uh Putin's not like yo so
you start asking yourself okay how do I
make Trump make sense in this moment
Trump makes sense to me at least when
you go oh when people don't show him the
deference that he believes that he
deserves he's going to turn on them if
he sees an econ an economic opportunity
to make America stronger he's at least
going to give it a look because I don't
know how Trump's goingon to respond to
this he may be like get the [ __ ] out of
here like Putin that's crazy I'm not
interested in that uh but I am going to
get what I need out of zalinsky or I'm
going to back off and let you guys fight
it out so we'll see I I do not think I
have a crystal ball into which I can see
the future but if you play out the
thought experiment of oh this leads us
to peace that that's how it leads you to
peace you back Putin's bid to take over
Ukraine you do minimal rights and uh you
make it an economic win for the US and
you just say it is what it is we'll see
in other government use uh the US has
announced a US crypto Reserve uh Donald
Trump tweeted over the weekend as well a
US crypto Reserve will Elevate this
critical industry after years of corrupt
attacks by the Biden Administration
which is why my executive order on
digital assets directed the presidential
working group to move forward on a
crypto strategic Reserve that includes
xrp salana and actually thought I was
being trolled hold on I know there's
more but when I read xrp Saul and Ada I
was like hold on a sec is this
real it really seems to be real I will
make sure the US is a crypto Capital
world we are making America great again
Bitcoin loved the news because the
markets were up before they were down
because crypto was at a was trending to
De being down 20% over the weekend at 79
they bounced up after the news to their
a new high of 9 three or a new Regional
High like locally in the last two weeks
um and then but now there's been a sell
off for that so and now it's like
falling off a cliffan uh it's a volatile
asset boys and girls net positive what
do you think about the us having a
crypto reserve and not a Bitcoin
strategic Reserve because that's think
that's what we need to drill in on so I
think the person that has a really good
take on this is Joe Londale and I found
myself nodding in agreement with his uh
Texas or his uh ex post tweets there we
go hi um and that
is basically that
um now I'm going to use my own words
so all
of the stock market and doubly so for
crypto it's
gambling everybody knows my thoughts on
forcing Americans or anybody else to
gamble because they can't save their
money because you're inflating the money
supply is morally bankrupt uh but
nonetheless that's the position that
we're in I do not like the idea of the
government taking your taxes
and gambling on crypto if it was BTC I
would feel less about it just because I
have my own personal thesis about what
Bitcoin is but even that I'd be I would
question it and what I was saying during
the live is this gives me Sam bankman
freed Vibes let's remember that Sam
bankman freed ended up at least in one
snapshot in time being right and it was
let me steal your money and I'm going to
without your knowledge I'm going to
invest that in things that will return
more money and I think it did if they
had just let it go I don't know if it's
still true but for at least a moment in
time he was right and he was up and so
we put him in jail for basically ever
because he did that because we're like
yo I don't want you gambling with my
money I gave you money for one thing and
you did something else with it and now
the government's saying they're going to
do the same thing and I'm I'm just like
uh what I don't want them gambling with
my money
now it gets complex when you start
talking about a strategic um a sovereign
wealth fund excuse me because now you're
talking about like hey if we can get a
deal done for Tik Tok for instance
should we be able to capture some of the
upside of that for the American people I
actually kind of dig that but also when
you fuse the government and corporations
it's called fascism so it's like this
all starts getting excruciating
excruciatingly complex so in my nice and
simple way of viewing the world I would
rather they did a balanced budget stop
uh deficit spending let people save
their money let the stock market let
people gamble if they want but make it
optional make it optional let the crypto
Market be the crypto market now um I'm
very happy to be wrong about this and to
see that this returns just gang Buster
results for the American people and you
get our greatest Minds like uh Howard
letnik I think that's his name who
you've got in the government right now
yo like he's done a bang up job there's
a reason that people get ralo to come to
their country whether China the US uh
Abu Dhabi wherever they'll bring him in
and be like yo help us so there's a
reason that you get these tremendous
Minds doing this and then you're able to
make incredible investments into your
country so it's like it's one of those
where um what do you do when you like
the outcome and you hate the method
that's where I'm at
oh that's interesting um I like that
where at least trying new things but to
your point we don't have it like well
also if xrp Soul uh Bitcoin any of them
tank and the American people are like yo
I can't make good on my in fact it won't
be that I was going to say I can't make
good on my entitlements because you like
bet this stuff on something that's
International and it goes down at the
whims of human sentiment uh but they
won't they would just print money but
now you're back into the position of you
just stealing from everybody and so it's
like oh man I just uh
these games are so complicated and I
think it's better that the government
stay out of the vast majority of these
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in future Tech news Elon talked about
infinite products and if money would
even be worth it um let's jump to the
clip money would have any value it's
crazy humanoid robots and intelligence
you basically have quasi infinite
products and services available so with
Tesla building the most advanced
humanoid robot then then those human
human robots can be directed by Deep
intelligence at the data center level
you can say you can you can produce any
product produce provide any service
there's really no limit to the economy
at that point you can make anything I'm
not sure at that point will will money
even be meaningful I don't know it might
not be economic output is productivity
per capita times per capita times how
many people do you have if and if if in
the form of humanid robots you have no
meaningful limit on the number of robots
and the robots can basically do anything
then you you'll have a sort of a
universal High income situation anyone
will be able to have as many re products
and services as they want with the
exception of things that say have
artificial scarcity like or something
like that but
for notice that he doesn't sound
excited and um I mean he's racing to
build the world so he's obviously not
thinking oh this is a negative thing but
I think that lack of enthusiasm is it is
so unknown meaning and purpose what do
you do like how do you make that work
what does that even look like and I
agree that we should be racing towards
this as rapidly as we can with thoughts
on safety but I I very much agree with
um I think it was JD Vance that said uh
you're not going to Nanny State your way
to success in Ai and AI is a race it is
an arms race that is a right way to
think about it um and
at the same time when I look into the
future and ask my brain what does that
world look like it hands me back a null
void and it's just like it's so
different there's no way to accurately
predict what the world is actually going
to look like so much of human motivation
has to do with I have a goal that really
matters to me and I'm going to pursue
that goal when you take away the it
really matters to me part which most
people are not good at inserting
something to say oh I'm going to make
this the thing that I pursue this is why
I think the default answer in life is
become the kind of person worthy of
getting married have children raise them
well not because I think it's the only
path obviously it's not it's not the
path that I walked but when I think
about the amount of effort I've had to
put into making sure that the things I
do in life matter um it's a lot man and
so you want to align yourself with the
evolutionarily planted algorithms that
exists in your brain whenever humanly
possible and capitalism is the result of
an evolutionarily placed algorithm that
runs in people's minds it is the I want
to do this thing and I want to win I
want to win more than the people around
me and people can hate that if they want
but all of innovation is
effectively see how fast I can get
canceled all of innovation is
effectively men going I want to get laid
and so I want to be better than the next
person now of course when you're making
something that's not actually at the
Forefront of your mind but that's the
Machinery that's implanted in your mind
that gets you to go do that really hard
thing to make things better because you
want to contribute to the tribe in a way
that makes you somebody of high standing
in the tribe and one of the ways to do
that is to make the future better than
the present and so if you can make the
future better than the present you
become High status being high status
gets you access to high status females
and and that drives so much of this and
that's why so much Innovation is Mel
people can hate that if they want but
it's just a reality and so given that
it's like I don't know how much of the
Machinery of the human mind breaks when
you have infinite resources because we
just didn't come up in that period yeah
and so now it's going to be like we it
it's much like I would never have
predicted that an eternally present
abundance of delicious calories would be
a bad thing like if you had asked me
back in like 1500 I wouldn't be like oh
no I see how this goes wrong I'd be like
oh my God it's amazing race to that as
fast as you can only to find that people
are morbidly obese and still like
sicker than ever yeah and so it's like
oh whoa I didn't see that coming that oh
yeah I guess we are driven to eat like
things with a ton of fat and sugar and
like just mash it all together fat is
not bad but when you combine it ultra
high calorie in something with a ton of
sugar it just you overc consume and you
pack on the fat and it just becomes a
total [ __ ] show so I worry that there is
a similar lurking problem that we have
not yet identified that will raise its
head once we have that kind of abundance
I agree I took his his lack of
enthusiasm though where I differ from
you is that it wasn't necessarily that
he's harping on the meaningless Pro uh
problem but more so that it's such a
sure future that he's like okay this
gonna happen then this GNA happen this
happen so you just took a d girl
no yeah yeah give me three years and
that's exactly when it's gonna happen
I'm gonna say hard pass on that so this
is Elon Musk who said AI is a demon
summoning Circle and you have no idea
what you're going to get now admittedly
he now pegs it and as far as I can tell
he's just guessing but he says 80%
likelihood that it ends well cool but
like I don't think you go from the guy
who says AI is a demon summoning Circle
to your lack of enthusiasm when you
define the future is just oh but it's
just so commonplace this is a guy that
when he wants to get excited he knows
how to transmit that enthusiasm to get
people on board I mind reading mind
reading danger danger Will Robinson but
uh my instinct is there's just enough in
that where he knows there there are
looming Cliffs that we could dve and
I've heard him talk about the meaning
crisis where he's like oh I don't know
what happens when so anyway that's my
mind to read okay so let's let's do the
Sci-Fi writing experiment for a second
because on the same over the weekend we
had Space X launch another rocket that
went to uh Florida it didn't kind of it
didn't reenter as well as they wanted it
to so I think they're doing another
launch today as well um at the same time
Palmer lucky is now working on Halo
Master Chief uh style exoskeletons so to
your point of it used to be we were
tribes we used to build something in
order to bring value to the society to
get us laid now I feel like we're
starting to solve problems that are so
novel that it's kind of outside of our
day-to-day occurrence we were talking
about this in the live like going to
Mars is a feat but it doesn't impact a
vast majority of Americans it would just
be like oh yeah that's cool we went to
Mars as opposed to be something that's
getting there so I I I I Square this by
saying like do you think that the fact
that we keep pushing technological
advances to the limits is now
disconnecting from the fundamental
origin of Technology when it used to be
a tool to help us live better I don't
think it's disconnecting I think we will
be richly rewarded psychologically for
continuing to make the future a better
and more exciting place which is why I'm
always surprised so today during the
live uh you and Unice were both like
super Blas
about going to Mars something that I
think is like unbelievably cool uh so I
think back to the Space Race to get us
to the moon and how that really ignited
an entire generation of scientists and
engineers and dreamers people that were
just like literally anything is possible
um my hope is that that's exactly what
Mars is for this generation and because
for so long the idea that Peter teal put
forward of we were promised flying cars
and all we got was 140 characters M and
it's like but you're now getting the
flying cars like legitimately getting
the flying cars and so it took longer
than expected maybe it came in form
factor that we weren't expecting but
it's unbelievable and I am on fire this
is why I say like uh having to start
with the the stuff about Force
conscription and oh God the crazy
negotiation over mineral rights uh not
ideal because I would much rather be
focused on all this incredible exciting
like side come to life stuff um because
this really is despite all the madness
this Remains the most thrilling exciting
time to be alive um so yeah I mean I
look at this stuff and am over the moon
about where we're headed it doesn't feel
disconnected at all um it doesn't mean
that I don't think Forest bathing is
real and of course uh there is that
element of humanity as well MH but
looking at the stars and saying I can go
there that's pretty thrilling even
though we don't see the Stars anymore in
a majority of US Cities and populations
but yeah let's contend with that okay so
you brought this up last time uh and I
think it's a really fascinating Insight
that a there are trade-offs
MH B don't accept the world as you see
it as the sum total of that world know
that not only are you blinded to things
but Society has intentionally or
unintentionally blinded you to it and so
seeking out awe seeking out things that
give you the chills is very wise but do
I think that it is ultimately a small
price to pay yes which is why Humanity
has raced forward technologically as
hard and fast as they have because let
me tell you go watch a season of alone
and tell me that that's worth being able
to see the stars for when you can still
drive to Joshua Tre or whatever and see
it
like when you have to fight for every
calorie and your life is just completely
occupied by survive this winter it's
it's just a different game man and if
you really want to freak yourself out uh
I showed everybody that book that I'm
reading now about Mae China called
Tombstone dying of starvation is gnarly
there was uh a few towns in China where
they found clay like like dig up and
there's clay they found clay and
apparently you can eat clay but it
doesn't have nutritional value at all
and so some percentage of people they
were just so hungry they couldn't stop
themselves from they would literally
line up it's like your turn now to like
dig and eat the clay some people would
eat so much of it it would kill them
shees and I just thought
bro when you starve people long enough
they will cannibalize their own children
read uh red famine read Tombstone they
both talk about cannibalizing your own
children okay I know people with a full
belly right now cannot fathom that they
would ever do that humans do they they
will cannibalize their own children
enough said about that uh they will eat
clay and
so when you think that to get out of
that
state we have had
to Evolution has had to to plant in our
brains this desire to solve these
problems to not just fish but to build
boats that allow us to take Nets out
into the deep sea and capture enough
that populations can
explode that's what it had to do to get
us out of that constant danger of like
you might starve to death it's pretty
amazing and so I your point is taken
about we have
obscured the beauty of the Milky Way
but bro like it it is a price I'm
willing to pay given what I know history
looks like I think okay I don't want to
get pigeon hold into this but I think
that that's a good I want to push back
because I think to your point if we have
obscured the beauty of the Milky Way
with rockets that are shooting toward
the Stars cool okay it's for a
technological advancement but 99% of the
light pollution is advertisements and
street lights so it's one of those
things that it's sometimes these
technological advancements aren't
necessarily for the betterment of
society but for the forwardness of
personal interest second and third order
consequences there's no doubt I'm I'm so
100% glad that because that is our
perfect segue into the corruption piece
of the show which is as we're as we're
dealing with this Elon was on Joe Rogan
and didn't want to necessarily talk
about the type of corruption that they
seeing in USA But I want to kind of
pigeon tail this with some of the other
corruption links that we found today
whether it was aocc giving advice to
illegal immigrants to circumvent ice or
whether it was Jasmine Crockett talking
about Trump as an enemy to the US even
though he was democratically elected in
so there's this kind of like we are
seeing the next the next movement and
the next step that the human race is is
taking forward but I'm sure we're not
seeing all these second and third order
consequences like corruption and some of
these other things that might be uh
negative externality of that movement
forward of The evolutionary algorithms
in our brains yes yes I will give you
that uh play this clip this is
nuts it it's more than just insider
trading
um like the inside of trading stuff like
the stock portfolio stuff is quite
trackable but there's
uh it's a lot more than insider trading
the way they're acquiring wealth correct
and what other
methods I mean this is really going to
get me
assassinated it's
like I'm I'm not Ling my lifespan by
explaining this stuff to say the
least
um I mean I was supposed to go back to
DC how am I going to
survive this fer is gonna kill me for
sure um so
um in fact I I I do think like there's
it's like I actually have to be careful
that I don't push too hard on the
corruption stuff because is going to get
me killed
super unnerving I don't think he's wrong
I think it you have to plant a mile
marker here and say look of course he
could be saying that because there is
nothing else and he wants to make much
to do about nothing and he wants to fuel
Doge and he just wants people to get
behind him and accept that like there's
this crazy thing that's happening and
you just got to trust me and I can't
talk about it because I'll get killed
cool while fully acknowledging that at
the same time uh in the full interview
he talks about like when you have people
that are in the government because he
was saying you should I think this all
started when he said you should pay
people more in the government and
Rogan's like huh why would we want to do
that he was like because you create a
forcing function for corruption these
guys are living in DC one of the most
expensive neighborhoods in the world
which is already like hey that should
raise questions um and these government
bureaucrats are in a district with
terrible schools and they can't afford
to put their kid in private school and
so now you create this forcing function
where they're going to take corrupt
money so that they can do it for their
kids and he said if I'm stopping people
from doing that then now all of a sudden
they can fight against me or try to have
me assassinated because they're doing it
for their kids and he was like once you
trigger that he's like now all bets are
off MH and so I do think that there even
if he's faking it it isn't a fake idea
that dragging the corruption into the
light is exactly historically how people
have been killed I mean you don't have
to read a whole lot about JFK which
release them files but you don't have to
read too much about JFK before you go oh
there's some pretty compelling arguments
that this was JFK just had his finger on
too much money yeah and so people are
like n gotta go um
so people do crazy [ __ ] for money crazy
[ __ ] and so if he really does see a vein
of corruption that would be so damaging
to talk about that he's worried I I only
hope that it does find its way into the
public Sphere not attached to any anyone
in particular but this is the kind of
transparency that we want that's the
kind of transparency that we need making
that kind of stuff impossible paying
people well so that you get the best and
the brightest I'm here for that uh but
creating a forcing function
for people to be corrupt that's that
play that has the worst second and third
order consequences I can imagine that
makes sense to me um and then now I want
to get to this uh NPR interview with a
dispute if that's the right word with
Tom hman the president's uh Homeland
Security Zar so-called uh you held an
online Forum a no your rights for him
that he didn't like what were you doing
what was your goal as you saw it my job
is to uh educate and act as a liaison of
critical information to my
constituents and I was informing all of
my constituents of their constitutional
protections and in particular
um their their constitutional
protections against illegal search and
seizure in the United
States hman was upset I suppose because
he felt that you were giving advice to
people who were here illegally were you
I was giving advice to all of my
constituents I love anybody standing up
for the constitutional rights that you
have however uh when you say and this is
why I say to be
fair she obviously did not come out and
say hey even illegal immigrants are my
constituents and I was fighting for them
but I think you'd be pretty hard pressed
not to read between the lines and be
like hold on a second um you clearly
don't have to worry about the people
that are here legally because I is going
to look at them and be like you're here
legally uh
so this is aimed at I think being
generous this is somebody very
compassionate who understands people
worked very hard to get here that they
probably had it very bad where they were
coming from uh they've come in and she
wants to make sure that they're able to
stay and she knows a way to help them
get around it and as a country we are
going to have to contend with whether we
think that's okay or not
so I would say this is pretty dicey and
I would expect them to keep pushing and
pursuing this because if she is helping
people evade this just like we're seeing
people in ice that are telling people
this is where the next raid is going to
happen those people are getting found
out and fired um this is going to
create real division that people are
going to have to put some sort of
guidelines in place with what we think
is acceptable what's not acceptable
because at a minimum I would expect her
answer to be something along the lines
of hey I'm just telling my constituents
exactly what is legal and what is not
legal anybody that has beef with that is
crazy um I can't stop somebody who's
illegal from hearing this and if they're
legal illegal then obviously that should
be processed in a sensible way and those
are not the people that I'm speaking to
and this goes back to the whole thing of
like everyone's just saying the quiet
part out loud and it's like getting real
[ __ ] creepy to me um not because I
don't want to know what's true I do want
to know what's true it's normalizing
like all of the the [ __ ] that we should
be striving to get away from in fact
this is me putting together in real time
what's bothering me instead of trying to
improve ourselves instead of trying to
act ask really difficult moral questions
we're all saying I'm going to do it this
way uh I want everyone to just normalize
that this is the thing it's no longer
about debate and people saying I don't
have all the answers this is exactly why
we have three branches of government
that pull push and pull on each other
and we get to things through a
democratic process this is now everybody
just like going okay this is my way I'm
going to do it whether everybody's
watching or not I don't give a [ __ ] what
you think I don't have time for morals
uh it's real politique as it should be
and it is what it is like I want people
to acknowledge that real politique is a
thing so that they come to the world
with their eyes wide open but I want
them to strive to be better and the
message that I always got growing up as
a kid you were always striving to be the
better version
and it's interesting because I think
this all filters
down oh this is [ __ ] interesting
controlled narratives man controlled
narratives Elites Back start lying to us
again James Burnham James Burnham this
is I don't want people lying
but I do want an aspirational narrative
I want the full Embrace of the truth
it's interesting Drew this is what I'm
trying to do with this
show a full Embrace of the truth an
acknowledgement that a even when I bang
on a table and say I know this and I
understand this and everybody should
listen people should merely take it as a
data point that allows them to uh build
a more cohesive worldview as they
understand it m um but I understand that
I don't have all the right answers I
don't want anybody to treat me like I
have all the right answers everybody
needs to think for themselves no one is
coming to save us we want to map the
world as it actually is um but we should
Aspire we ought to Aspire that is me
expressing my beliefs about what the
world should be from a moral perspective
we ought to Aspire to something better
and I feel like because of the velocity
and volume of information that social
media has brought to
bear I don't feel people striving
for that I don't feel the
um I don't feel that there is a
cohesive moral narrative that we
share the hesitation in my voice is
because this is all coming into conflict
this is all being confr conf fronted
by the reality that this is really
tribes that don't share a moral
understanding of the world and I am
realizing in real time my real beef may
be we just don't share morality
anymore
and that sounds dangerous to me that's
how you end up in a civil war wow so do
you think we're closer to was that like
a civil war light switch look it's it's
all coming together with things I
already believe it's just always
fascinating this is why people should
journal and thank you all for I mean
this show has effectively become my
verbal Journal um when you see far-flung
pieces of your belief system click into
place it's almost more unnerving than
when somebody gives you a better lens
because you're like uh oh uh all of
these things that are happening so I
haven't I haven't thought a lot about
Civil War it used to like really was
occupying my thoughts when I first
started looking at it through a
financial lens and I was like o
um but yeah this is
two worldviews racing away from each
other really really rapidly and because
everybody believes they're right they
just
flout I don't think that's the right way
to use that word but they it's so close
I'm G to stick with it they flout their
beliefs against the other side oh that's
not quite right but hopefully you guys
get what I mean they just they don't
give a [ __ ] yeah they just start moving
in a different direction they don't care
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go Li news let's have some fun the
Oscars was this weekend Anora was the
big winner winning B best pitcher best
actress uh Adrien Brody won for best uh
actor in the brutalist um Zoe Zana was
best supporting actress Her speech went
viral about being the child of an
immigrant what' she win for the musical
I gotta watch it is it worth it
no comment I've seen too many people
make that face I love her in lioness
though lioness is the goat I got time on
that show you guys should check it out
um it's true but yeah and of course in
true fashion um it was revealed that
Oscar rules require diversity quotas for
best pitcher nominees this came out a
few years ago yeah this was after the
Oscars was so white uh yeah
Fiasco um and then Elon retweeted this
is messed up should just be who is best
not best with an asterik I agree so uh
for those that don't know I went to film
School film is my first love always
thought I was going to be a film
director uh which is why impact theory
is so focus on making content for 11 to
15 year olds yada yada not this show
obviously I'm well aware of that but
um I now don't really think about film
much anymore now I still love
entertainment in a way that many people
will find distressing but uh film making
has really lost its oomph there's been a
talent drain over to series which God
bless it series is a probably a better
format stuff like yeah um it's a better
format lets you go way more in depth let
you binge watch which is certainly a
thing right now um but the thing that
gave me a flag that I could plant and
say this is why I've sort of given up on
Oscars because I used to like fantasize
about winning an Oscar and now I
legitimately don't even think about it
uh it isn't just this but this just put
a nice fine point on it that not only in
front of the camera but behind the
camera like you've got to meet certain
quotas for your film to qualify
and that means that there are so many of
the greats of Cinema that wouldn't
qualify today which just strikes me as
ridiculous so that makes me sad like I
just want to see the art form do battle
in the world of public opinion uh for
the art and the more you can blind
people to anything else just like the
fin piece of art did it reveal something
about The Human Experience did it make
you feel something that that is the game
for me yeah I can I feel like all the
award shows have lost their appeal um
this takes me back to the Grammys a
couple years ago where like Kanye was
pissing on his Grammy Drake said he's
never going on his he pissed on his
Grammy uh Drake said he'll never attend
a Grammys again so there this they were
build as The Taste makers and these were
the best of the best and we're starting
to realize that it is a bias group of
people it is a bias group of journalists
it's a very select isolated group that
you have to be in that ecosystem and in
that world to understand the choices
that they make so by no means am I
saying that the Oscars is worthless but
by no means do I think it is the the
crowning achievement of a creative that
it was once built as I like there's a
lot of extremely talented people who
have made movies that touch my soul that
never won a gold Trophy and I feel like
that's the ultimate like nod is will
your movie last 10 years from now
there's a bunch of movies that have that
went home with 10 Oscars but after that
year you never think about them again so
interesting it's so interesting it would
be fascinating to do like uh in fact
somebody please out there in the land of
social media do this to give Awards like
a decade hint so all right to qualify
you must be at least 10 years old and
have stood the test of time and now we
like do our thing that would be really
interesting but this goes to cultural
energy like it it really is like it's a
moment even the show we build around not
just things that are evergreen we build
around like what's culture on right now
uh and that's part of the fun like you
want to be in that stream that's just
like oh there's so much energy around
this so I get why they would never work
to do that sort of long-term thing but
is a far more fascinating like would I
rather be have created something that
wins 10 Oscars in a year whatever award
that I care about would I rather do that
or would I rather be totally paned
but like 10 years later people like yo
this is the thing I'd much rather this
is the thing to be remembered would be
phenomenal to me yeah to me that's what
art is about but all right moving on
this was a fun one that I found over the
weekend that like we have to talk about
so I'm going to give you guys the bullet
points of what exactly happened so I am
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