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Drew this is real life and the whole
thing with uh Trump zalinsky and Vance
is uh unnerving to say the least but
this one we really are playing with
human lives and it is crazy town he
signed that executive order to F around
and find out it seems like we going to
have to with this let's jump into the
conversation and see where went off the
rails yeah well the crazy thing is
before you play this you can watch it
happen in real time everything is going
fine and then one twist and it it
unravels this yeah you see the hatred
he's got for put that's very tough for
me to make a deal with that kind of he's
got tremendous hatred and I understand
that but I can tell you the other side
isn't exactly in love with you know him
either uh so it's not a question of
alignment I have to I'm aligned with the
world I want to get the things set i'm
aligned with
Europe I want to see if we can get this
thing done you want me to be tough I
could be tougher than any human being
you've ever seen I'd be so tough so
Trump is saying you want me to be tough
I can be tough literally imagine that's
now in the back of his head watch the
rest of
thisy I would respond to this so look
for four years in the United States of
America we had a president who stood up
at press conferences and talked tough
about Vladimir Putin and then Putin
invaded Ukraine and destroyed a
significant chunk of the country the
path to peace and the path to Prosperity
is maybe engaging in diplomacy we tried
the pathway of Joe Biden of thumping our
chest and pretending that the president
of the United States's words mattered
more than the president of the United
States's actions what makes America a
good country is America engaging in
diplomacy that's what president Trump is
doing can I ask you sure yeah yeah okay
so here and here's where it goes off the
rails is this like a ego like okay okay
we play occupied it uh our parts big
parts of Ukraine part of East and Crimea
uh so he occupied it on
so during a lot of years I'm not
speaking about just Biden but those time
was Obama then president President Obama
then president Trump then President
Biden now president Trump and God bless
now president Trump will stop him but
during 2014 nobody stopped him he just
occupied and took and we signed with him
me like a new president in 2019 I signed
with him the deal I signed with him
macron and Merkel we signed ceasefire
ceasefire all of them told me that he
will never go with s him with gas
contract gas contract yes but after that
he broken this his fire he killed our
people and he didn't exchange prisoners
we signed the exchange of prisoners but
he didn't do it what kind of diplomacy
JD you are speaking about okay uh so
it'll become clear in a second why this
is
problematic watching this interview
people have to hold the idea of Robert
greens the 48 Laws of Power in their
minds man I love how much this
Administration is putting things uh out
there so everybody can watch what's
happening but the train wreck that is
about to unfold is largely because all
three of these guys know that their
constituents are watching them and so
this level of posturing is going to
cause them to collide so basically what
zalinsky just did is directly challenge
JD now if JD had enough diplomacy he
would hand handle it differently than
he's about to but check it out it's
going to end the destruction of your
country Mr President Mr President with
respect I think it's disrespectful for
you to come into the Oval Office and try
to litigate this in front of the
American Media right now you guys are
going around and forcing conscripts to
the front lines because you have
Manpower problems you should be thanking
the president for trying to bring it
into this conflict you ever been to
Ukraine that you say what problems we
have first of all during the war
everybody has problems even you but you
have nice ocean and don't feel now but
you will feel it in the future God bless
you know God bless God bless you will
not don't tell us what we're going to
feel we're trying to solve a problem
don't tell us what we're going to feel
I'm not telling you because you're in no
position to dictate that remember you're
in no position to dictate what we're
going to feel we're going to feel very
good feel influenced we're going to feel
very good and very strong you will feel
influenced you're right now not in a
very good position position you've
allowed yourself to be in a very bad
position and he happens to be right
about from the very beginning of the war
you're not in a good position you don't
have the cards right now with us you
start having cards right now you don't
you're playing cards you're you're
gambling with the lives of millions of
people you're gambling with World War I
you're gambling with World War I and
what you're doing is very dis
disrespectful to the country this
country
far more than a lot of people said they
should have have you said thank you once
this entire meeting no in this entire
meeting you said thank you you went to
Pennsylvania and campaigned for the
opposition in October offer some words
of appreciation for the United States of
America and the president who's trying
to save your country up until this point
this is how this feels to me so uh 48
Laws of Power law number one is never
outshine the master you're coming into
to uh president Trump's house literally
and the problem is zalinsky has to play
to his base and to president Trump and
in playing to his base he's carrying the
energy of somebody that's fighting for
his country that's staring death in the
face the existential death of his entire
country his own personal mortality all
of that you have to be strong you have
to be aggressive like you've got to be
able to channel that now because the
cameras are on you you can't be weak but
law I think it's like law 22 is um that
you need to be prepared to use the
surrender tactic you have to know when
to um show your underbelly so that you
can
um get the other person to want
something good for you that you want to
trigger their empathy you want to make
them want to help you and that's hard to
do when you have to posture for your
constituents back home who you know are
going to watch this but if he from a get
what I want standpoint even though I
think that um zalinsky wasn't like crazy
out of hand with the challenge to JD it
was unwise because you now are being
adversarial with JD and if he doesn't
back down you get this kind of situation
yeah Trump also has a moment where he
can back out but he doesn't take it
because he's primed from earlier let me
show you the tough guy also this is my
house come in be respectful and then uh
another one of the laws of power is to
know who you're dealing with when you're
coming into a negotiation don't bring
your judgments about whether Trump or
Vance are emotionally reactive fools if
they're overly proud Americans if
they're garish Americans whatever it is
that you think about them don't be
judgmental about it just acknowledge
what is true that um Trump wants to be
the tough guy he'll grab people by the
hand and pull him in to show that he's
more dominant and so if zalinski again
just to get what he wants I'm not saying
I am grossed out by every step of this
all three of these guys misplayed this
in my opinion Vance was way too
emotionally reactive asking him to like
have you even said Thank you in this
meeting like oh God that's so gross like
I that that to me is petty it's small it
it is not the the Elder Statesmen that
you want in that meeting at that moment
again feels like theater feels like
posturing um but if you know okay this
is who these men are and so the way that
I'm going to play this is I'm going to
be very gracious I'm going to show
deference I'm going to show my
underbelly I'm going to uh use the
surrender to them card not surrender the
war but you're surrendering to that
person and saying things like JD I
completely hear what you're saying from
the perspective of uh wanting to be
diplomatic and Lord knows I'm so
grateful to have Trump who has the
strength to uh give me the cards that
I'm going to need to play this hand well
I could not be more grateful for that um
without you guys I would never be able
to get this deal done but I just want to
make sure you guys understand why the um
the safety guarantees are so important
to me because Putin has time and time
again since 2014 he's been violating
these agreements and so it does mean a
lot to me that you guys would be um
willing to help me negotiate this
settlement with Putin but the reality is
that I can't trust that he's not going
to break it I I'm G to Hope but hope
isn't a strategy right if he had that
sort of even though I get it you're
having to do all of that and you
shouldn't have to do all that and the
other guys should just be like hey we
really want to end the war but the
reality is the 48 Laws of Power are Laws
of Power this is human ego you're
dealing with and if you understand who
you're going up against and you know
that they really are like that don't
judge it just deal with that reality and
be conciliatory but so much of this the
problem is created because everybody
knows that they have to play to their
base and you can feel them doing it but
it causes this huge Clash all right very
loudly about the war you he's not
speaking loudly he's not speaking loudly
your country is in big trouble can I no
no you've done a lot of talking your
country is in big trouble I know you're
not winning you're not winning this I
you have a damn good chance of coming
out okay because of us Mr President we
are staying in our country staying
strong from the very beginning of the
war we've been alone and we are thankful
I said thanks this cabinet in this cab
we gave you through this stupid
president $350 billion we gave you
military equipment and you men are brave
but they had to use our
military if you didn't have our military
equipment if you didn't have our
military equipment War would have been
over in two weeks in three days I heard
it from Putin in three days this is
something may in two weeks of course he
it's going to be a very hard thing to do
business like this I think it's good for
the American people to see what's going
on I think it's very important that's
why I kept this going so
long you have to be thankful you don't
have the cards you're buried there your
people are dying you're running low on
soldiers listen you're running low on
soldiers it would be a damn good thing
then you then you tell us I don't want
to cease fire I don't want to cease fire
I want to go and I want to this look if
you could get a ceasefire right now I
tell you you take it so the bullets stop
Flying and you me stop getting killed of
course we want to stop the war but I
saying you don't want a ceas I want a
ceas fire guar because you'll get a
ceasefire faster than itre ask our
people about ceasefire what they think
that wasn't with me that wasn't with me
that was with a a guy named Biden who
was not a smart person that was that was
with ob it was your president excuse me
that was with Obama who gave you sheets
and I gave you javelins yes I gave you
the javelins to take out all those tanks
Obama gave you sheets in fact the
statement is Obama gave sheets and Trump
gave
javelins you got to be more thankful
because let me tell you you don't have
the cards with us you have the cards but
without us you don't have any cards if
you look at the social media responses
it goes back and forth from oh my God
Trump finally said what needed to be
said to I've never been more embarrassed
to be an American this is real politique
this is where you have to play the game
the way that it's actually played and
getting into the morality of how people
ought to be and all of that people
aren't like that that that just isn't
real life and so coming in like this
whole meeting would have been
fundamentally different if any of the
following were true if zalinsky had
studied the 48 Laws of Power and
understood what he has to do to get
these guys to end up in the position
that he wants them to be in Churchill
was a master at this uh reading his
biography and hearing him talk about the
way that he had to position things to
get the US finally into the war and how
he played it I mean for him it was
existential to get American troops over
in Europe to fight that war and he
managed to pull it off partly by showing
the underbelly all that stuff being
tenacious for sure but knowing when to
say look I'm at your mercy if you don't
do this it's over uh if Vance hadn't
felt threatened if he could have been
swaave if he could have been relaxed
about his push back instead of feeling
threatened because you can see the
moment where he's like uhoh I don't have
a great comeback and so he then starts
turning and talking to the audience and
saying like we shouldn't be litigating
this here in front of the American
people like you can actually feel his
Vibe ship and then Trump going uh
basically to back up um Vance and it
just begins to spiral but the thing that
seems to really be driving Trump is U
him not knowing his place and it's
really interesting in Japanese culture
this kind of stuff is like really
blatant uh if you're lower in status you
have to bow lower it's just physically
manifested um if you in Chinese culture
there's like a hierarchy and the person
that is lower in the hierarchy has to
pay uh tribute and so it's like
all of a sudden in America that feels
like there's this set of rules that
showing respect for the Oval Office um
acknowledging where you are in the
hierarchy that without us you have no
cards with us you have cards and the
thing is it is true and
so mapping that territory out before he
comes in the room and understanding what
he has to do to get on the other side of
that would be critical and I just can't
help but think if this were happening
behind Clos doors it would have been
very different so I came into this
meeting wanting more cameras all the
time I want to see this stuff and part
of me was absolutely fascinated to be
able to watch it because I know this is
the kind of thing that goes on behind
the scenes but the problem is and this
is going to be one of the major
criticisms uh coming out of this I
guarantee it is Trump this isn't [ __ ]
business This Is War and now that you've
sent zalinski packing uh more people are
going to die like literally more people
are going to die now I don't know that
they were going to get a deal done even
if they went behind closed doors there's
no way to run that counterfactual but
the version that we got to
see could have been avoided any one of
the three of them makes a different
choice in fact let me give you an out
that Trump could have and Lord knows I
wish he had taken uh Vance escalates
Trump sees uhoh he's being emotionally
reactive this isn't good diplomacy in
terms of my my real Northstar is not to
to uh get zalinsky to admit that I'm the
bigger man my real Northstar is not to
get the American people to think that
I'm the tough guy my real Northstar is
to make sure the people stop dying in
the Ukraine so as Vance begins to
ratchet up uh he should have at that
point like showed that he's frustrated
with zinski and said look this is
obviously going to go nowhere fast
everybody we have to end here we're
going to need to talk about this in
private I do not like where this is
headed and can make it very clear that
he's upset with zalinsky great cut the
cameras there his base is like awesome
red meat Trump's going to go slap him
around I just know it this is going to
be awesome uh you're never asking
zalinsky to back down you understand
that he's got a posture for his people
and you go in the back room the two of
you can [ __ ] yell at each other all
you want Vance can throw a fit and be
emotional when he gets backed into a
corner doesn't [ __ ] matter because
it's off camera and hopefully these guys
can negotiate and get to the other side
but the number of times man in business
I will say to my wife or whoever this
meeting is not going to be emotionally
satisfying you are not going to be
gratified you are not going to get out
of this person uh concessions they're
not suddenly going to like when you're
firing somebody okay you can make a big
drama out of it and be like you [ __ ]
up and I'm so displeased and get the
[ __ ] out of here welcome to getting sued
by that employee or you can say I'm not
going to go for anything emotionally
satisfying in this moment and I'm just
going to say uh it's clear at this point
that the relationship is not going to go
any farther I think it's better for us
and for you if we part ways we're going
to give you whatever severance package
and you just wash your hands now for
people that that are in their fields
that is so frustrating but that's why
you have to know what is your Northstar
in this meeting Trump's Northstar I need
to be acknowledged I need to be thanked
uh I need to see that you know that
you're the the person with no cards I'm
the guy with all the cards um Vance just
I think ended up getting out over his
skis and didn't have a great arguments
Linsky had a very good point ter
terrible [ __ ] timing never should
have made the point in the room but
nonetheless has that's where it went off
the rails because JD Vance was trying to
make a he was posturing the show this is
how real diplomacy happens you know
we're not going to just talk tough we're
actually having conversations and then
zalinsky at that point could just been
like yes now let's get the deal done
it's done correct if he would have been
the bigger man but instead zinski was
like well this is your fourth president
having the fourth conversation and when
is this been and indirectly Trump tried
to deflect it the first time like oh
that was 2015 or I wasn't here you were
still here while Putin was in Crimea so
you're he at that point he caught a
stray in that moment and I think
zalinski should have said okay I got him
I got him we moved on the conversation
let me Let It Go but then to your point
I feel like everybody then wanted to
double down and I even love Trump
because I feel like Trump showed his
hand in this interview and that's this
is the part for me that makes it very
trans like very transparent Trump even
said it himself this is not how you do
business you don't have any cards I'm
trying to help you out you're puffing
your chest argue with my VP I gave you
jab like it I hate that I'm on Trump's
side on this it's crazy like I I thought
I would never be here but it's one of
those things where it's like Trump is
like hey bro you in my house asking for
stuff and now you're yelling at my
little
brother you wouldn't even be here if I
didn't invite you like what are you
talking about you should say thank you
and then we should be trying to get this
deal like zilinsky just came in as if it
was like yeah I'm going to get another
300 bills from uh the US I'm gonna get
some javelins and I'll see y'all next
week and it it was just kind of this all
that was just weird to me but
again I hope Europe comes and saves a
day I hope this is not a swift end to
Europe but my the biggest thing in my
head right now and I actually this off
camera is like if I'm Putin do you do
you throw a shot out I feel like if I'm
Putin you have at least have to you got
to test the waters you got to do
something like well coming into this uh
he was shooting ballistic missiles at
Ukraine obviously in protest I'm sure he
doesn't want president Trump meeting
with zalinsky this is obviously
absolutely terrible for zalinski
position because Putin now knows that
he's being hung out to dry by the us if
you're going to push the maximum
Advantage you certainly make a move but
if Trump has any sense whatsoever he's
going to back channel to Putin and say
don't [ __ ] do it do not use this as
an opportunity I just don't know if
Trump is going to have as a invisible
North Star uh that I'm the bigger man
than zalinsky and zalinsky needs to get
slapped around by Putin to see that
you're going to need to come crawling
back to me I will [ __ ] hate
everything about that that that is a
level of grotesque to me history will
judge us all there is no doubt about
that if Trump can be the bigger man put
it aside and get this [ __ ] deal done
history will remember him well if he
can't everyone is going to go Trump
you're the leader of the biggest
superpower this was your opportunity to
be the bigger man not posture like the
bigger man not beat your chest like
you're insecure so uh there is idea that
I call invisible uh goals where somebody
is driven by something that they would
they probably never articulate to
themselves they would certainly never
articulate to anybody else if you ask
him what he thinks he is going to say
over and over I just want to end this
war but I cannot do business with
somebody like this he's got so much
vital for Putin he does not understand
what a negotiation is and he's not wrong
what the [ __ ] does it matter like you
have to say okay cool he was acting like
a kid like literally if he did what I
was saying and just go this is not going
anywhere where uh the way that you're
acting is not going to get this deal
done guys we I need the cameras out of
the room we're going to go we're going
to negotiate this behind closed doors we
are going to get this deal signed we are
going to stop the Bloodshed if he did
that Jesus man people would see this
guy's not for [ __ ] play he's not
going to tolerate the [ __ ] but he's
also not going to get sucked into this
emotionally and it's like godamn it to
be both right and then foolish at the
same time is stupid because he is
correct Donald Trump is correct he has
all the cards zilinsky has [ __ ] all if
he doesn't have the US zalinsky himself
said Europe is probably not in as far as
they would be if the US isn't on board
you just pissed him off so he's now
going to say Hey kid whatever happens
happens in fact he said multiple times
you guys are going to Duke it out if we
can't do a deal you're going to fight it
out you're going to fight it out you're
G to fight it out so it's like man you
you got to get the deal done but this is
literally the very thing that makes
these three capable of getting to the
position that they're in is the very
thing that [ __ ] them up when they're on
the one yard line mhm and the White
House just released this statement
directly from Trump we had a very
meaningful meeting in the white house
today much was learned that could never
be understood without conversation under
such fire and pressure it's amazing what
comes out through em motion and I have
determined that president zinski is not
ready for peace if America is involved
because he feels our involvement gives
him a big advantage in negotiations I
don't want Advantage I want peace he
disrespected the United States of
America and his cherished over office he
can come back when he is ready for peace
president Donald
Trump man uh the stakes could not be
higher right now I really hope that
everyone gets cooler heads uh that they
come back to the table that they don't
um send him back and say come back in
you know a month or whatever that they
chill they get back in the room but at
least based on what's going on in social
media I don't see it happening uh I know
zalinsky is going to do some new News
interviews later today so we'll see if
he takes a conciliatory posture it's
possible but it's going to be hard for
him to eat that kind of crow because
it's all out in the public boys and
girls I I'm so curious to see how people
take to the idea that zilinsky does not
understand the 48 Laws of Power well
enough um but I'm telling you right now
the world Works in a certain way and
when you blind yourself to it act like
it doesn't matter um misunderstand it
any of those you you fail to get to the
outcome that you want to get to uh I
will often say and this really rils
people up you know you did the right
thing because you got the result you
wanted you know you did the wrong thing
when you got the result you didn't want
but the battle on social media is going
to be who was quote unquote right and
wrong they're all wrong because all of
them had a stated objective coming into
this and none of them got what they
wanted y so again invisible goals when
people are steering by something else
then you get these crazy [ __ ]
outcomes instead of saying literally in
the moment emotions are hot asking
yourself what am I trying to get out of
this am I on a path to getting it no
reset your emotions but people can't do
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show now Europe is going to be a major
factor in how all this plays out which
we have a clip this is utterly
fascinating that you have some Europeans
saying I'm not really worried about
Putin Putin can't even blast through the
Ukraine and you expect us to be worried
about this guy check out the clip very
good constant comparison of 1938 and the
appeasement of Hitler in 1938 nobody did
anything the UK didn't do anything
France did do anything to help
Czechoslovakia right now we've given
this guy three years of bloody war in
the Ukraine he is not even winning
against the Ukraine and we should be
scared in Europe against this Army
coming in I'm not you're good B you're
good you're good I don't see the threat
in Russia the next big war that might be
coming is one between China and the
United States if if EU is dragged into
that War I would see an issue I see an
issue fighting 1.3 billion Chinese I
don't see an issue fighting 110 million
Russians so if Trump doesn't want us the
EU and the UK to be into NATO and if he
wants to break that up that's not such a
big deal for us why because he's going
to be on his own if he picks a fight
with China I'm also sick and tired of
this constant compar yeah so here's
where um I think a lot of people hate my
take on Ukraine and Russia but this is
why I have my take on Ukraine and Russia
war is so Much Death so much
um destroyed treasure it it is war is a
level of Devastation on the local
economy the local geography the
demographics the tragedy of all those
lives and so again I understand if it
were my if it were California that were
taken over by the Chinese I would feel
the same way but you really do want to
step back and say how do we off-ramp
this thing how do we stop all these
lives from being lost and when you start
hearing people in the EU talking like
that like Hey we're ready to throw down
with uh Russia like it is what it is
we're not going to let this guy uh bully
us yes we're going to stand up to it oh
and by the way if America is losing
their stomach and they're going to leave
us here to deal with this and that is
certainly Trump's rhetoric we've got a
big beautiful ocean let me tell you how
fast EU is going to be like yeah well we
got a big beautiful ocean and your whole
continent between us and China you
[ __ ] deal with it and so I think
people that criticize Trump for not
being thoughtful enough with his allies
because he's feeling pretty big right
now yeah but if this becomes a World War
which I want to remind everybody this is
why you want to deescalate this is why
you want to wrap this [ __ ] up even if we
have to make concessions on uh Ukraine
that is like we want to get this back to
stable we want to bring this back to
peace you want to find a way to say okay
look for real we're not going to [ __ ]
around with NATO we're not going to push
it up to your border Russia chill uh
then we can focus on like can we use
diplomacy to keep us versus China a cold
war or are we actually going to let this
get kinetic but I will remind everybody
X when he has a chance is telling
everybody now I'm taking Taiwan back I'm
not asking you I'm telling you so it's
not like people that say that are
popping off X himself keep saying it so
um yeah I want to see Russia Ukraine
brought to peace there are going to have
to be concessions I do not want to see
Trump being a dick and Bully Ukraine
it's like that was a deal that was made
look forward if he wants additional
funding yes get the mineral rights I
love that I love it being good for
America I love there being in exchange I
also think it's a way better negotiating
position if Ukraine is strong because
America's like [ __ ] you we now have a
financial incentive to keep helping
these guys so Russia back the [ __ ] off
even if that means that we then don't
get any mineral rights because we didn't
have to fund them I'm totally fine with
that yeah uh so anyway we'll see but
this is this is not a time to dig your
heels in and say for very understandable
Reasons I'm not willing to concede
anything yeah and honestly this is a
perfect Subway into our next story
because I feel like we have a war
happening internally and I think the
country is not even United enough for us
to go into an actual War yeah you know
what I mean like we can't take on 1.3
billion Chinese if we don't even agree
with the 30 million people who voted Sam
Alman released 4.5 and I just feel like
this is a very timely release I think
Grog 3 was getting a lot of Buzz 3.7 was
getting a lot of Buzz Alman was like I'm
sitting on these models I got to get
this one out
but I wanted to bring it up CU he said
it's not a giant expensive model but
more so this is the humanistic model so
I wanted to know what you thought about
that kind of change in description and
kind of how we're benchmarking these new
releases well he said something slightly
different what he said was this is an
incredibly expensive model but it isn't
one it's not like a whole new training
model where uh you're going to expect it
to crush new benchmarks and things like
that it's not going to beat benchmarks
and so what he's saying is that this is
a better form of intelligence it's more
thoughtful so um I I think he's right
about that this is like when somebody
goes to lose weight and all they're
thinking about is I want to make sure
that the number on the scale goes down
people looking at these AIS the way that
they're interpreting whether this is a
step forward is a very uh concrete
metric of saying okay here are all the
different benchmarks that we're going to
run an AI through how does it perform on
those and I think he's right to pump the
brakes and say that's not the right way
to validate certainly this model but
would say it's probably not the right
way to validate any model you want to
look at the outputs that it gives you
and say is this a more for now humanlike
output where somebody would be like whoa
this now feels like I have access to an
incredibly intelligent human that will
do whatever I ask them uh and the early
stuff that I've seen I've played with
4.5 but not a lot yet uh but I've seen
other people's outputs and I will say
approaching it from the perspective of
writing it really the cheesiness that
you would often find in um even 01 is
gone so it if what they the real
breakthrough of 4.5 is a more if
inference Le thing where instead of just
giving me the average of everything that
the um the model has encountered on the
internet the the median is always going
to be lame right it's going to be the
average of all these people if what
they've been able to do with this is say
okay here's all of life's information
but here's the stuff that's really good
and so start waiting towards the things
that are really thoughtful that is going
to be a huge step forward because right
now I think anybody using AI is going to
look at it and go it's not there yet I
can't just turn it loose and have it do
a thing like I worked with 01 on an
outline for our screenplay and it did a
phenomenal job of giving me the outline
but it did a terrible job of actually
scripting scenes because every time I
would have it write a scene it would be
really cheesy and so then I would have
to go in and like rewrite it to remove
all the cheese and then I would ask it
like hey can you see the difference
between what you wrote and what I wrote
and it would give me the most incredible
breakdown of what I had done differently
and then I would say oh my God that is
exactly right you're even picking up on
things that I wouldn't have been able to
articulate chat it was outlining like
the cues and like yes like uh you um you
leaned on this thing you planted
something at the beginning of the
conversation that paid off you created
this tension comedic tension by doing
this and that escalates and you finally
relieved it at the end of the scene and
all of that made it feel better than the
version that I wrote which was far too
straightforward and a little bit cheesy
so like it gets the whole thing and then
I'd be like okay and now go write this
next scene remembering all of that stuff
and it would hand me back a Cheesy pile
of [ __ ] and so I'm like it understands
the difference but because it's just
taking the average of everything it's
ever seen it still then feeds you this
really basic thing which means that the
critics that it encounters are very good
at identifying what's bad but it's not
able to apply that to a new novel thing
the early stuff I've seen and again this
is very early so it's going to be super
cherry-picked and so just like you can
make uh image to video models look
amazing and then you try to do it and
it's like this is ridiculous uh so it's
entirely possible that as I play with it
more I'll find like no no no there's
still a ton of problems here but the
early stuff is very compelling because
it doesn't have that cheesiness and so I
was like whoa now will I say it's all
the way to like a really top tier writer
probably not I don't have those kind of
hopes but the sense of it being a far
more thoughtful human that resonates now
I think it's worth showing the um
Richard fineman's son whose first name
I'm blanking on right now but you'll
pull that up
uh Carl thank you this is pretty
interesting when you get to that like
are we at
AGI this this one fascinated me so his
original tweet was that the master
thesis in 1986 modeling the appearance
of cloth it took Library research and
cleverness and originality and months of
work in days of time on big computers
now I'm outdone by an AI in a few
minutes they still pay me but for how
long this is somebody's entire job in
1986 and theyi is like Boop boo go
yep so this this is what's going to
happen now I want everybody to remember
as an Act of Faith believe that the
future is going to be better than today
that yes it's going to be disorienting
for a minute to realize oh the thing
that I was putting all my time and
energy into like that's not really that
necessary anymore but I've started
thinking about this like my phase one as
a YouTuber was all about mindset because
that's what everyone was asking me and
so I started making all this mindset
content is performing really well I
start getting really bored and also just
a gazillion other people start saying
the same things so you start going well
even just from I want to feel alive
perspective this isn't fun to do anymore
and it's now so common it's you're going
to be able to find this anywhere and so
that pushed me into a new area and then
Co pushes me into a new area again and
so each of those times it was disruptive
it actually hurts the channel
temporarily but then ultimately every
time has unlocked like a whole new level
which is exactly what I'm hoping now
we've obviously completely changed the
way that we approach the channel and of
course it's going to hurt it in the
beginning and then the hope is that in
the long run this has I mean this has
allowed me to stay relevant for almost a
decade and so will it unlock something
new so that would be the thing I would
want to pitch to Carl and to everybody
else that's going to have these moments
of existential crisis where it's like
yes back in 1986 that's what it took and
yes putting the smartest Minds on
getting cloth simul a inside of a video
game like it was a a thesis a doctoral
thesis it was a ton of work it did
require all that cleverness but now Carl
as one of the sharpest Minds in the
world you're no longer going to be stuck
having to simulate cloth you're going to
be able to do something else and so the
the goal isn't to get focused on what
we're losing the goal is to focus on now
what are we getting so I've been
engaging with the development team on
Project Kaizen saying hey guys I really
think that AI is getting there and we
need to start using this and so I asked
them this morning like to what degree is
AI helping you and they said it's
created a 40% efficiency increase
already wow already man and so they were
giving me this breakdown like for every
technical challenge I would hit I used
to have to go to Google read a whole
bunch of different things assimilate
what is right and now I can just tell
the AI write the code I still have to
tweak some of it but I don't have to go
like figure out what the solve is like
it already knows it gives me the code
it's mostly there and then I make a
couple tweaks and we're ready to go that
kind of thing is transformative but if
you if you start having that existential
crisis of like oh God but the very thing
that I was good at was going and using
Google and figuring that stuff out and
assimilating it and turning it into code
and so now do I even matter if you get
lost in that you're going to get passed
by the guy that's like bro I don't even
have to like do all of that anymore I
can just get the code make my tweaks and
now be efficient now have taste and this
to me is the big thing whether it's
cloth simulations whether it's game
design whether it's running a large
manufacturing facility you have to be
the the one with the quote unquote taste
that understands which option is better
than the next and if people focus on
that you're not going to get lost in the
low level anymore this is now elevating
your game and wildly extending how much
you can get done in the number number of
hours that you have awake I think people
start to get really excited no I agree
and it seems like we're on a cusp of
something now because we're starting to
see all these breakthroughs in different
areas and I appreciate that this AI arms
race is holding each developer
accountable so now chat GPT has to come
up with a new thing that's more
relatable and somebody has to push the
boundary on apps and somebody and we
keep going and I think we're also seeing
parallels in the quantum space now
because Amazon just released their next
quantum computer uh ocolate our first
quantum Computing chip tracking one of
The Field's biggest hurdles error
correction with up to 90% lower
correction overhead we're bringing
Quantum systems closer to reality and I
think specifically it's interesting to
me from Amazon's perspective that they
are a web services company they're a
Fulfillment company their need for
Quantum will be much different than
Microsoft or much different than
Google's so it's also just how Ai and
the models were seeing differentiations
where Claude might be better at this
type of coding and Gro might have this
type of Personality we're starting to
see those those differentiations
happening in the quantum sector as well
yeah I this is a an idea that people
should really begin thinking about which
is evolutionary pressures so when you
get the um the competition going you're
going to get a lot more Innovation this
is why I think anybody that has a job
like mine should put their values out on
the table so you can understand the
thing that I steer towards now I believe
the very thing that makes human lives
better is innovation full stop period
end of story when you look at the uh
timeline of humanity it's it is about
Innovation Innovation is the very thing
that makes people's lives better it is
the thing that pulls them out of poverty
it is the thing that allows us to have
billions of people on the planet so
Innovation is the thing and when you
when you start deregulating and you
allow for this competition to happen
because remember the Biden
Administration was they said directly to
mark andrees one of the greatest um
Capital allocators uh of our time they
said don't even bother investing in AI
companies we are not going to allow them
to exist this is going to be one or two
companies that we have control of and
the Trump Administration has coming and
said no no no totally different like we
want to really widen this out you've got
JD Vance talking about this isn't only
about safety this is about Innovation
Innovation is where this is really going
to happen and now what you're talking
about is as you begin to allow these
places to compete whether it's in
Quantum Computing whether it's in AI
models you start seeing this race to
like be better to capture the audience
to get the economic share and that
desire to win unleashes the best of
humanity now that doesn't mean you want
no regulation it doesn't mean that there
aren't things that we have to protect
ourselves from there absolutely are and
we absolutely must but if you can be
light touch if you can have sensible
regulation then you get the evolutionary
pressures to achieve an outcome that the
public wants and is willing to pay for
and when you create an outcome that they
want they're willing to pay for that is
an indication that you're making their
life better and so the capital then
flows to those people that have proven
they've been able to do that and they
just keep eating up market share by
delivering something that the world
wants and as long as you don't end up in
a monopolistic situation which is
exactly why you want some
regulation now you get this where the
consumer gets better and better stuff
because of that competition so I'm very
excited to see both Amazon has its own
needs and so there are evolutionary
pressures for them to develop new things
uh that Microsoft has their own needs
and so they're developing and
everybody's learning from everybody else
and it really I mean this is if you can
control the understandable anxiety of
the rate of change which many will not
be able to but if you can control that
anxiety this is so exciting like it's
really exciting for the first time in a
long time I now find myself wanting to
make physical things like I don't just
want to be in the media business because
the things that are becoming possible
are so thrilling that you just want to
meet the moment and make that thing um
so I I am very excited by the major
leaps and this the 90% reduction in
error on Quantum is a huge breakthrough
so very exciting yeah I think when I
first started playing with AI it was
always like how can I make things how
can I get a time schedule how can it
organize a spread cheat for me how can
it re you know summarize this bill but I
think the more I'm starting to play
around with the more I'm like oh I can
make an app specifically for me or oh I
can now not only can you did yeah but
it's like that possibility just kind of
flipped a switch in my head that makes
it now feel personal so instead of it's
like okay I have this app to do what
they want it's like no what my goal
right now is I have a fitness journey
we're on this Fitness thing join the
fitness challenge join our life go um so
it's one of those things where it's like
okay I have this journey I need to get
to over the next 12 weeks how can I do
it okay build this tool to help me do it
and you start to realize that I think
the conversation around AI is almost
perverted too where everybody's worried
about the robots taking the jobs but
it's like no no no no what do you need
to get done this week what's your
grocery list what do you need to like
and organize that like let's use AI to
do things that can help us on the ground
level and that just kind of it blew my
mind since kind of looking at it from
that perspective I love that man and I
think that uh people need to know you're
not a coder and yet you were able to
make a custom app in a style and
gamification level that you found super
engaging and you made it with AI like
you're right that that is the way to
look at this yeah 100% all right jumping
into political news bu Kelly said if you
don't impeach the corrupt judges you
cannot fix the country they will form a
cartel a Judiciary dictatorship and
block all reforms protecting the
systematic corruption that put them in
their seats this was in response to Elon
Musk tweeting that the only way to
restore rule of the people in America is
to impeach judges no one is above the
law including the judges now I wanted to
start with the tweets cuz I know when we
get into Political territory it can seem
like it's an us first them or a
territorial kind of debate but I thought
that this is very kind of nuanced
because we just seen somebody who
literally just fixed a country from
corruption from decreased crime and he's
showing how he did it and now when Elon
Musk puts that level out there we
automatically kind of default to our
political Corners so I wanted to kind of
put this in front of you in this way to
kind of see what's your take on the
approach to fixing corruption and then
how America might be able to see it with
a bit more Nuance than what we're
typically used to from Red Team blue
team okay here first I want to paint the
picture of what this moment feels like
so people feel seen before we get to
what the way forward is uh what this
feels like for a lot of people because I
reacted some kind of way when I heard
this and it's like somebody saying hey
you have a cancerous tumor now everybody
knows we we have a cancerous tumor right
there there is dis dysfunction in the
government um no matter what side you're
on uh certainly during the Biden
Administration you have the Republicans
crying foul now during the Trump
Administration you have the uh Democrats
crying foul so everybody agrees that we
have a problem they just disagree on how
to solve it and so this tweet to anybody
that fears uh authoritarian rule you
know okay well wait checks and balances
that's the name of the game you you want
the three branches of government the
three branches of government are exactly
what have protected us from a
dictatorship this whole time as
Americans and You Begin realizing that
um a Constitution doesn't matter what
matters is whether people uphold the
Constitution or not uh so it's often
been pointed out that on paper the um
the Russian regime under stall had the
most democratic Constitution ever M he
just didn't listen to it and he killed
anybody that disagreed with him so what
this moment feels like is somebody
saying you have a cancerous tumor I have
a big Bowie knife let me just cut it out
and you're like hold on that's going to
kill me and so it's very different to
see a guy that you imagine not a [ __ ]
doctor walking towards you with a big
knife that he grabbed out of the
Woodshed and is like I'm just going to
cut that thing out of you and you're
like no you're not not you're using that
as an excuse to stab me to death and me
in this case being the democracy and so
I get why people's alarm bells are
sounding and people's alarm Bells should
sound and this is exactly the kind of
thing I'm not close enough to what was
going on with Netanyahu and Israel but
my understanding at a distance was this
is exactly the kind of thing that he was
doing was saying that the Judiciary has
become corrupt they're I don't know if
you would use those words but they're
overreaching that they've gone too far
this is not what our government was the
way that it was meant to be structured
they have too much power I'm just trying
to rewrite the ship and get us back to
where we were and there were people in
the streets being like no this is a guy
that's grabbing for power and that is
the wonderful little cover story that
he's putting on top of this and so
that's how I think a lot of people are
going to read this moment where it's
like yes we agree that there's a problem
whether we agree the judges are the
problem or not is another question but
let's even say that we do agree that the
judges are the problem we're not going
to agree on what Jud judges we're not
going to agree on the Right Way Forward
we're never going to agree who should
get the wheel the scalpel exactly where
they should be cutting we're not going
to trust them to be robotically precise
certainly I think people are going to
take exception with musk who's known for
moving fast and breaking things and
saying oh don't worry we can