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the Trump train of change is proving to
be a bullet train and many people want
off the ride calls the Deport Elon
intensify As Trump authorizes the
shutdown of us a a potential CIA front
Dems openly defy the president Trump and
Netanyahu agree Palestinians will not be
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more crazy Tales From The Mean Streets
of modern dating Drew every day is like
a month man it is getting crazy the
amount of stuff that uh we get to Feast
upon in terms of what's happening in the
world is crazy these first 100 days are
proving to be ridiculous the whole thing
ridiculous I I thought we already hit
his 100 days I'm like oh no this is week
three wow okay yeah he hasn't even
gotten close this is a marathon at a
sprinter's pace there are not short of
people getting pissed off um with USA he
literally closed the headquarters to
staff and of I want to flip to Mike Benz
right yeah I want to flip to Mike Benz
because he had the more scathing take of
us Aid and I think this is a good
jumping off point for our conversation I
think what's happening at us Aid is is
essentially an echo of that which is
that us Aid is supposed to be
Untouchable I mean virtually there's no
us Aid project on God's green earth that
is honest if we are irrigating the
rivers you know the or irrigating the
agricultural fields in a country it's
because we're trying to control the you
know the the territory there if we are
working on the ri the water supply it's
because we're trying to control the
rivers if we're we're working on famine
relief it's because we're trying to
control the food supply and make inroads
into the indigenous populations there if
we are helping them write their
constitution and go through Democratic
legal reform it's so that we can control
their their laws every single thing USA
does is Dual Purpose it's Dual Purpose
By Charter they're only allowed to do
the the things that Advance US foreign
policy interest and we just put a little
bow on top of it and we say in the
process we're making the world a better
place through because it's uh you know
it's going to these humanitarian groups
who are administering this thing which
in the process will help us for foreign
interest but the fact is is you know the
worst scandals in in American statecraft
in the 1960s and 70s and maybe early 80s
were were the CIA in recent years the
worst the the worst scandals in American
statecraft have been USA uh from from
funding the Wuhan la to uh to Growing
heroin in Afghanistan and irrigating the
poppy fields to setting up a fake
Twitter in in Cuba with uh an explicit
USA document saying that the plan is to
have algorithms favoring sports news and
hurricane updates and then once we have
enough people switch to get them to hate
their government and topple their their
government and take to the streets and
smart riots uh to them even using public
health HIV prevention clinics as uh as
uh undercover for uh for for us Aid
workers doing intelligence work to get
people to overthrow their governments
and this gets me to another point that
I'd feel remiss if I didn't say because
I've been thinking about it I feel like
he could have went on for another hour
like how do you feel about us Aid as a
CIA front or okay so I think the real
story here is the Collision of bringing
transparency to the government and what
that's going to create when you have
from time immemorial the whole idea is
that you get a group of Elites that
control the narrative they do not want
the public to be aware of what's going
on they will cloak it in nice sounding
things like Hey we're doing this for
your own good you know we're going to
lead us all somewhere positive and the
reality is that it does really seem to
be that there is architecture in the
human mind where you were always and I
mean always going to get a small group
of people that ultimately lead the
country this is the whole whole idea
behind representative democracy instead
of a direct democracy that it just
doesn't work that way that logistically
getting everybody together even just to
cast their vote is next to Impossible
most people don't pay attention and so
it really does seem to be that the way
that the human mind is built you are
going to end up with a group of Elites I
know I talk about this book a lot but if
you want to make sense at this moment
you've got to read the book The machia
of Ellens Defenders of Freedom I don't
often say that second part
uh by James Burnham and in it it talks
about this man is political animal that
there are going to be lies there are
going to be manipulations it is all part
of the way that you move the masses and
it makes this really compelling argument
that you couldn't possibly ever have a
populace that is governed by pure
scientific truth because people just
they're not going to be aware of it not
everybody's going to be able to
understand it science is changing all
the time and so even if you're making
your best attempt to only say what is
factually accurate you're never going to
get there and even if you could get
there people won't be able to digest it
that is what you're seeing right now is
you have Elon going on a rightful
Crusade and I do not use that word
accidentally going on a rightful crusade
to bring transparency to the government
to show the American public these are
your dollars being spent you should
absolutely be able to see where they go
but he goes in maybe not even knowing
what some of these organizations
actually do he realizes oh God like I've
kicked a hornet's nest why are people
responding so violently to this and then
you get insiders like that who are like
hey the reason people are freaking out
is because this is a front for the CIA
or CIA like operations and so then all
the sudden you're like wait is Alex
Jones just not crazy and he's just early
to all of this stuff and
what we are going to find out especially
hearing that part about the thing that
we were doing in Cuba trying to create
these what did you call them digital
riots something R virtual RI something
like that and I thought this is what
we're mad at bike dance and Tik Tok for
is we know that this works because we're
doing it in other countries and so
suddenly all of these clandestine
playbooks of how you manipulate the
masses are all coming into Stark relief
because we're actually creating
transparency in the government and so
this is one of those it it is the right
thing to do but in an age where
information travels as fast as it does
it is going to create really weird
reactions as we go through a
transitional time and figure out what
does the new Elite Class if it is truly
architecture of the human mind you're
you're not going to escape it what does
the new Elite Class look like in this
age are they bringing that transparency
do we find that they have to reinvent oh
God like quickly we have to go back to
well these things are clandestine but
then you can't tell people that they're
clandestine so you got to find some way
and do we just end up back here where
it's this cycle of transparency hide
transparency hide I I don't know but
that witnessing this all happen in real
time because of the velocity of change
that Trump is making is fascinating now
my wife has done um detoxes like we're
she does this thing called ebo I think
it's called ebo and every time she does
it she is knocked on her ass for like a
day and a half it's like she's been hit
by a freight train and the explanation
that they give her is that basically
you're going in there and imagine a nice
uh still little uh Pond and you go stir
up all the mud in an effort to get it
all out and so now it's all traveling
through your system and you're
discombobulated that's what this feels
like is maybe this is exactly how you
have to detox or drain the swamp is you
have to go in and do this but whoa the
things that you're going to kick up
they're going to be unexpected things um
agencies that operate in a way that you
don't expect uh there are going to be
agencies that when you get in like
elon's initial take on this I don't know
if he's still there but I mean this is
only a few hours ago uh but as a few
hours ago he was saying that this is
when you look at us Aid you don't find
an apple with a worm in it you find a
bowl of worms if it were an apple with a
Perman it you can just take the worm out
but when you go and you find there is no
apple this is just worms now all of the
sudden all you can do is start over and
Trump has said yes cool if you know it's
not doing anything useful we're going to
shut it down and then you get the crazy
outcry that you're getting now people
are saying oh it's just corruption it's
graft it's you know people uh
fraudulently spending um taxpayer
dollars is it going to be that is it
going to be mostly that all that
partially that some like clandestine
things we actually want them doing
clandestine things that are huge
scandals unknown at this point but man
it is not going to be a smooth ride when
you turn the lights on and you see all
the
Cockroaches but the thing I really want
to drive home is were the Cockroaches
doing something useful and so I don't
know this is not me standing up for us
Aid I don't know about it I just know
that you're not going to be able to um
boast
be 100% transparent and run campaigns of
subterfuge at some point you say to the
people I can't tell you about this one
this one's in a black box you don't get
a look inside of it and that invites all
the conspiracy theories that invites a
place for people to hide things and so
this is going to be really Rocky
especially when you factor in the
response that Elon Elon is getting way
more than Trump for doing all of this
stuff and let's jump right into that
because some of these videos I was
expected by how visceral those responses
were so the first one we have is
Elizabeth Warren outside of Capitol
Hill no one elected Elon Musk to
nothing not one Democrat in America
voted for Elon Musk not not one not one
Republican in America voted for Elon
mus not one independent in America voted
for Elon Musk not one not one
libertarian in America voted for Elon
Musk damn not one vegetarian
in and yet Elon Musk is seizing the
power that belongs to the American
people we are here to fight
back is probably one of the most
unintelligent billionaires I have ever
met or seen are witnessed
um I it just surprised me that like
especially with Elizabeth Warren she's
sitting on those steps she's talking
about that Elon is taking power from the
American people to grab power for
himself when he's abolishing a
department I feel like I get the
rhetoric what he's like saying if he was
saying we're going to shf down the
Department of Education that's next
coming next but it's just like like it's
it's a foreign aid campaign so how is
foreign aid helping the American people
and somebody's going to say well it's
for security it's for this it's all
these other things but you're acting
like he's taking social security
benefits or he's taking Medicare
benefits away from people directly it
just seems like smoking mirrors do you
think that this response is like
warranted no not at all so uh when
Schwarzenegger went into office he had a
really interesting insight about
politics that at the time I was not
paying attention to politics at all but
I've always found him to be a
fascinating figure and he said oh
politics is Kabuki theater they're not
interested in getting something done
they're interested in uh putting on a
big show having their name in the paper
standing up and fighting for something
and
so everybody has an agenda everybody's
going to fight for their agenda but they
are not going to fight for their agenda
by saying what they believe to be true
now and so what you're seeing here is an
appeal to emotion it's really brilliant
if you appeal to people's emotions you
are far more likely to get them to do
what you want than if you appeal to
logic a th% over and over and over it is
terrifying to me that that is true but
that really is humans and I I I was
telling this story earlier so forgive me
if you've heard this before but this
this is really really shocking to me in
my own life people very close to me uh
who've seen the way that I manage my
emotions not that I don't have emotions
not that I stuff them down that I have a
healthy distrust for them and I say oo
this thing is giving me this really
strong emotion I want to understand
understand why I'm having this emotion
once I can once I can identify the cause
of what's making me feel that then I can
decide oh is this useful or not now you
have to have emotions they're the only
way that you can make decisions and all
of that you just don't have to let them
lead you around by the nose now despite
people very close to me seeing that and
seeing the success that I've had in my
life from a solid marriage to uh what
I've done in business all of that uh
they still will get angry if you don't
validate their emotions that's how in
the grips of emotions people are and
even I find myself sometimes like just
so caught by an emotion that I'm like
whoa I'm really having to work to step
outside of that and take a more
functional approach which is my thing I
don't expect people to adopt it but I
think anybody that does is crazy uh but
that is I get it not everybody's going
to view the world that way but that's
what I see here I see politicians one
that have strong emotions and realize
that by lever ing the emotions of others
they're able to not say anything like
what exact power in US Aid do you think
Elon is capturing for himself like you
said in shutting down that department
what is the specific benefit to him so
if he were going in like and he will do
some of this stuff and this I will
understand like if he's going into uh
whoever oversees SpaceX or whoever
overseas uh starlink um neurolink all of
those and he starts like dismantling
those okay you see how that benefits him
and I would totally get people having a
stroke over that but this one it's it's
just a constant appeal to emotion and
when you get AOC saying that he's dumb
that's where I'm like what is happening
right now you can hate Elon but to say
that he's dumb is nonsensical because
nobody has been more
efficient more effective with their
intellect than Elon nobody I I there
might be other people in history people
probably point to somebody like Newton
who invented calculus just to answer his
own questions it's like okay that that's
pretty amazing but he's in a pretty
small Pantheon he's effectively alone as
an entrepreneur in terms of being able
to replicate over and over and over in
the hardest Industries I can imagine
that kind of success and when the
argument is that he's stupid either that
person is not able to accurately
interpret the world because you've got
an emot
you don't like what he's doing but
instead of Translating that into okay
what's causing me to not like it your
brain hands you a lie which is oh he's
dumb and you spout that now if you think
I'm making that up let me tell you a
real story this the following is a true
study that demonstrates the way the
human mind works if you take somebody
like the movie momento they can't form
short-term memories you have a doctor
walk in in their white lab coat they
have a pin in their hand they go to
shake this person's hand it pokes them
in the hand that person will jerk their
hand back and be like why'd you do that
doctor will then leave the room Waits
the 3 minutes for this guy to reset
because he doesn't have the memory he
will walk in that person will not
remember meeting the doctor they stick
their hand out to shake their hand and
they won't shake it so the question
becomes why so they ask why won't you
shake my hand oh well I've always had
this weird thing about people in white
lab coats no you haven't you got poked
in the hand the last time you did this
and there's a different region of your
brain that codes for that kind of danger
that part of your brain is still able to
form memories so you have this emotional
response to this person you don't
understand your brain can it abor that
vacuum of like I have no reason I don't
know why I'm doing this so it just makes
one up and hands it to you and you say
it as if there was nothing else it is
entirely possible that she doesn't know
that that is the most absurd answer of
all time she had an emotion I don't like
what's happening her brain handed her a
reason for why he's DB and we're letting
dumb people in the government and she
just says it I don't know it could be uh
she could be playing 4D chess and she's
manipulating her constituents I doubt it
my gut is that she had a very strong
emotion her brain handed or a reason why
she's having it and we are going to see
this play out at an ever increasing
volume you and I were talking about this
I know we're going to get more into this
as we go deeper into the episode but I
just want to plant in people's minds
this idea of right now in American
history we are driving in the snow
somewhere under that snow is a whole lot
of black ice and the second you hit that
black ice your tires are going to give
are they going to give a little and then
you recatch and you're fine or are they
going to let go and when your tires let
go all of a sudden you go from feeling
like you're in control at a reasonable
speed and you realize oh [ __ ] we're
going really fast and I don't have any
way to stop this when I see people on
the 101 freeway here in Los Angeles
protesting um immigration reform when I
see people protesting what he's doing
with the US uh Aid when people talk
about deporting Elon when they talk
about imprisoning Elon I'm like this
ratchet's up we are in the first three
weeks of the the four years first of all
and then we're in the first three weeks
of even just this 100 days of just going
as fast as you can disrupting as much as
possible and this is one
where man look there is a rate of change
that people can metabolize and there's a
rate of change that they can't now
because I've not lived through this
before I don't know if this is like yeah
we're going to be fine and this is great
because I love change so none of this
freaks me out but what freaks me out is
the reaction and the reaction is so big
I don't know where the theater could
trigger that populous response because I
want to remind everybody that while
Trump won the popular vote he won the
popular vote by a slim margin of the
people who voted and so having no idea
what the people believe that didn't vote
at all um I don't know over time how
emotional appeals which you will get a
lot of from the Democrats because that
is a incredible weapon uh I don't know
if that gains enough um if it Sparks a
fire that grows far enough that it does
feel feel like the whole engine of
momentum that we have now becomes a car
on black ice and we just start spinning
so um again we've got more stuff where
we'll get into the specifics of why I
think that later uh but this is a this
is a fascinating moment and I would be
lying if I said I wasn't excited but I
can you're excited about the cuts
happening or like something like us Aid
being exposed I firmly believe there is
no path forward other than transparency
period end of story I think we are at
the end of the era of big government
information travels too fast and your
only way to stop information is by
authoritarian top- down control I will
quite literally give my life to make
sure that doesn't happen now if there
are other people that feel as strongly
about it as I do all of the sudden now
it's like okay you're you're at the um
the red line that some people just are
not going to be willing to cross and so
For Better or Worse AI exists it's going
to make information travel even faster
both real dis Miss Mal all the
informations they're going to travel
Lightning Fast whatever information you
describe is exactly whichever one you
want is now traveling at lightning speed
uh and social media obviously
facilitates that incredibly we now have
the technology that we need to summarize
a bill rapidly so you can't hide things
in a thousand Pages anymore um we are at
least in this moment we've managed to
convince the most
effective um entrepreneurs of our time
to Rally around the government to take
roles in the government we've convinced
some of our brightest Engineers largely
because of Elon and how many Engineers
want to work for him to go look at these
problems with an engineering eye again
totally blind to the emotional responses
that they're going to get I don't know
if you saw the doxing that happened of
the um the engineers the really young
Engineers that Elon had working for him
at Doge and people were calling for them
to be killed man like it's crazy C like
posting their addresses and saying
people like that are doing this I don't
even know what they thought this is uh
but people that are doing this should
fear for their lives that is a quote so
uh it's been sad to your point of like
the people that are finding the
inefficiencies and they're high-fiving
like oh hey we just saved the American
taxpayer $100 million because we ended
contract they're getting close I think
they're north of a billion a day yeah
it's it's and yet to your point there's
this emotional visceral reaction as if
they're doing something bad or with
malice intent like you know it's it's
just it's weird how they go to it's very
weird but I also think okay you know my
whole thing hey what's it all come back
to everybody can we guess uh money
printing that's right inflation hiding
underneath all of this is the reality
that some very distressing percentage of
the jobs that have been created that we
were supposed to believe are feeding
this incredible economy were all in the
government sector and so you have Trump
and Elon attacking government sector
jobs when you put something like us Aid
out of business those are people now
that just lost their jobs and so I think
there are a lot of people that have
really grown accustomed to a worldview
that says the job of the government is
to give me things the job of the
government is to make sure I don't have
to worry about getting sick that nothing
bad happens to me there I don't have to
worry about retiring that's going to be
taken care of for me there that I don't
have to worry about uh dips in the
economy that I don't have to worry about
anything that the government's going to
have my back it's all good both here and
internationally by the way uh they're
also going to take care of the
environment like just everything
everything everything all at once and
once you have that worldview when
somebody comes in and says hold on the
dollars are finite you cannot continue
to run up these um debts because then
you have to take the finite dollars turn
them into Infinite dollars which is
known as inflation that inflation
becomes an insane problem it is the
reason that you feel like you can't get
ahead it is the reason that you're
getting angry
and you have somebody with a political
platform yelling and screaming saying no
no no don't look at that look at this
guy who's trying to steal your money by
shutting these things down dude it's I
hopefully people don't bite hopefully
people can really begin to put the
pieces together of how the world
actually works uh but woo I think it is
far more likely that people lean into
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and I think uh Senator Kennedy had kind
of the best response out of this uh it
was ruthless about to play it was
ruthless but I mean take it or leave it
he said it with his chest to my to my
friends who are upset I would say with
respect respect you know call somebody
who cares they better get used to this
it's USA ID today it's going to be
Department of Education tomorrow I think
it's the accent that does it for me but
tomorrow tomorrow yeah I did I did like
that and a really high voice I'm not
going to lie he's out of Central Casting
like this is amazing okay so we talked
about us Aid I well hold on you gonna
let that go undressed no yeah we're
coming back to this cuz he said
Department of Education tomorrow now USA
I got my gripes about I seen some shady
things they under the Haiti response a
bunch of years ago so USA I'm like all
right I'm sorry other countries we can't
babysit you no more my bad we do a bad
job anyway a lot of it goes to ngos and
it gets funneled corruptly I get that
yeah NPS we were trying to overthrow
your government and control your water
supply yeah and we set up fake vaccine
camps cuz we're trying to get close to T
like all these things um comma however
Department of Education I think is going
to elicit a bunch of different emotional
responses what do you say to the
abolition of the Department of Education
woo okay so on that one I will really
have to look into what are going to be
what has it done for us and what are
going to be the consequences of getting
rid of it now when I look at what we how
we were internationally as an
educational standard and nationally
before we were doing better than we are
after whatever 40 50 years of having it
so as somebody who looks at things by
what is the outcome that it produces it
is producing all the wrong things now
I'm very aware of the the trip wire
though of the the reason it was put in
place now again I believe any system you
can say its effective design is the
output that you get so the effective
design of the Department of Education is
to degrade the quality of American
Education that's what actually happened
okay but the intent was hey we have a
really racist nation and there are ways
that people can go in and they can steal
money from one jurisdiction and give it
to another one uh school district and
give it to another and we can't have
that so it's like okay Banger desire
horrific outcome so now what do we do I
think everybody's heard me say this
bazillion times school choice it's crazy
that we don't have school choice it's
absolutely crazy I'm also wildly
offended if you're not able to fire
somebody who's underperforming and uh
from what I have seen it is very hard to
fire an underperform ing teacher
underperforming administrators and an
underperforming District like it it is
crazy
so my shoot from the hip response is
that if you explain to people how you
were going to make sure that their
children are going to be educated better
without the Department of Education you
can get people behind it but dude people
do not suffer fools when it comes to
their kids this election in no small
part was because parents were feeling
like hold on hold on I'm not behind the
trans stuff you're freaking me out
you're treating me like a domestic
terrorist when I go to complain inside
the school
boards [ __ ] with me [ __ ] with my money
fine you [ __ ] with my kids you're going
to find out and so dude people just do
not play when it comes to their kids so
whether it's true or not if they
perceive a billionaire uh advisor to the
president and billionaire president who
can afford and are schooling their
children in private education are
waddling up to the White House and axing
the one thing designed to protect their
kids they're going to feel some kind of
way so there is a big sales job to be
had there regardless of whether or not
I'm right that you'd be better off
without it if people think for a second
that you are going to make their child's
education worse they are going to freak
out I think it's interesting because to
your point we went from first to 34th in
education internationally I think it at
some point dipped lower than that Trump
today was saying we're 40th shees is he
right I don't know but at that point
Department of Education is also
responsible largely for student loans
which makes money for the government
which is the most ickiest thing I can
ever think about it doesn't make sense
that we are charging our citizens to get
a higher education and we're making a
profit off of it if we were just saying
hey man I gave you $1,000 give me 1,000
back we're cool with it but we're saying
hey we'll give you $1,000 but you got to
give give me back 12200 and that's the
thing that's like we're in your country
we're doing this for you we still pay
taxes and yet we're still getting kind
of like hit at the knees so I I have my
my gripes with the Department of
Education but to say that we're going to
cut it and give school choice vouchers I
don't think that's the solution either
and I think that we really need a
fundamental day one Reb your beef with
school
vouchers okay um so before I move to
California I was in Arizona Arizona is
school choice Capital governor duy was
the model like the model for it in the
country what we saw happen was is that a
lot of they opened it up that anybody
can afford anybody can get a voucher you
just have to kind of sign up and apply
what they seen happen was instead of
lower income students moving to private
schools a lot of private school students
were getting their education subsidized
so people who are already paying the
$25,000 are now paying $9,500 because
they got the 14k is it because they
don't change schools it's because
they're still in the same school but
because now that it's applied to the
voucher to a private school it's it
unlocked another income stream kind of
for the parent so instead of it being
like you are in this lower um
underperforming School District you get
the voucher you can go wherever you want
a majority of people are like oh this
school is now eligible for that voucher
I'm just going to use I get that part
but now so uh we just subsidized rich
kids cool got it I don't think it's bad
if everybody gets the same so whatever I
don't have a beef with that but now zoom
in for me on the you have the choice to
go to a different school but you don't
because you can't afford Transportation
why aren't they going to a better
school public schools weren't uh
applicable for it and there's a certain
like they they weren't they're not part
of the school choice so you can it was a
very weird thing that's what I'm saying
they were funneling people to Charter in
private schools and saying public
education were already like doing so
this is the base model if you want this
education's no there's no we're going to
have to look this up I will governor do
see it right now and that's why it was a
pilot program they were going to it they
were going to launch it nationally letay
and they didn't let me resay what I hear
you saying
uh well public school's already paid for
so we don't need to give you vouchers
for that you guys are good but the
private school kids we're going to give
you uh voucher so that you can pay for
private school in a different way if
you're going to a public school it's
already government funds I don't need to
give you a voucher for it it's already
free to go it's already you can just go
to a different Public School you could
go to a different you could go to a
different public school but if all the
public schools are shitty cuz Arizona is
like 48th in the state so it's you want
to go to a charter or a private and then
that's where add ler okay okay so here's
now I'm fully understanding that they're
saying uh it doesn't matter what public
school you go to those are going to be
funded presumably based on the number of
students that choose that school got it
uh here's why I would need to look
deeper into see what's actually
happening because there's as we were
talking about previously there's a big
gap between what something was designed
to do and then the functional design
understood um but the idea behind School
vouchers is to put evolutionary pressure
on schools to compete for the best
students so that parents go this school
is [ __ ] all of their metrics reading
levels graduation levels what college
they go to it's all terrible and I need
a way to cast a vote and casting a vote
by moving to a new district is too
brutal so I need the ability to stay
where I'm at live where I'm at but take
my kids somewhere else okay I like that
a lot now when you look at what some of
the charter schools are doing I always
uh say that this is Jeffrey Canada I
cannot remember for the life of me if
it's actually Jeffrey Canada or another
charter school but if I can just round
everything to Jeffrey Canada and is
amazing uh that they would start I I'm
pretty sure they were Kip schools they
would start a kip School in the same
building as a normal public school
that's just underperforming wildly they
would choose the students for the kip
version of the school at random so it
wasn't like oh you had to apply and so
only the kids with parents that were
focused enough to apply so there there
was literally no there's nothing other
than random lottery for whether you got
you were one of the kids that got to go
to the Charter School in the same
building or whether you were one of the
kids that went to the normal school in
the same building what was the
difference the teachers and the way by
which they hold them to certain
expectations the way that they teach
them the way that they interact with
them and dude the results from the
charter schools were insane like these
are directionally correct numbers
they're not literal but it's like 85 or
90% they went they graduate and go to
college I mean just testing well doing
good finishing High School just insane
insane insane and dramatically better
than what's going on again in that same
building just random selection that
tells me that the culture of the school
matters a lot whether they fire teachers
that are underperforming uh the kind of
expectations that they set for the kids
like when you walk in on day one it's
you're going to college like they just
drill that into and you can imagine in a
low-income area they may never have
heard that before they may never have
thought of school going to college
before and so it's just this totally
different vision of their future that
they drill into them over and over and
over and if you don't meet standards I'm
pretty sure they cut you so it's like
you have to hit standards you've got to
do what they expect but if you do Boom
the world opens up to you so that's my
whole thing with when I look at some of
the the way that we approach the
government and the whole idea of no kid
left behind and just compassion for all
is yes it fills your heart but it
doesn't by way of functional design
yield what you wanted to Yi this is like
the parent that never disciplines their
child never sets any boundaries never
holds them to expectations um you can't
fire a parent but you can fire a teacher
but we don't people are going to say of
course we do yes for like super
egregious Stu stuff but this is where I
feel that I should point out my mom
worked in a school district for like 30
years or something crazy so uh I'm not
exactly a stranger to the way that
school my sister's a teacher as well I
love her to death there are terrible
teachers all around like my daughter has
not only terrible let's be very clear I
don't think that's what you're saying oh
yeah but like my daughter has have
terrible teachers so I'm definitely this
is my this is my gripe right cuz we have
different ideas about government in this
specific area for me there should be a
department at education it should
regulate how the kids in America are
taught however it shouldn't be the
system that we're using now I think we
need a day one rebuild I do you want a
federal system or would you be cool if
it was handled at the state level I
think it should be a federal system
interesting and the reason I think it
should be a federal system is I think we
need to borrow a a book from China we
need China kids we need Japan kids we
need Korean kids damn you heard it here
first we need China kids somebody put
that on a Chiron please and make sure
you only show it when you're showing Ser
like there needs to be needs to be
regimented just as as parents are
expected to work and take care and
provide like kids over there are
expected to work and like provide not
provide but like work and have actual
results they're hardcore China does not
play the state level is great but that
is also code for states that don't care
aren't going to care about it and states
that do care are going to go super crazy
for it I grew up in Jersey I just went
to the public school that was close to
me I didn't realize how good my school
was until I left into a different St I
was like oh wow all these schools are
[ __ ] I was just in a good area I was
lucky enough and under a federal system
by the way under a federal and you know
I was I was super blue in Jersey so it
wasn't like this was some like one off
like independent bootstrap school like
this was the Mandate from the top down
so I have seen an education system go
right and I have seen it being left to
the states and gone wrong so that's why
my thing is so you you could yo you
could take away epas you can have oil
and Waters and I I I will talk to Bobby
Kennedy and we'll get somebody to fix
that but like education don't mess
around with like that should be the
thing I agree don't mess around with it
so my my thing goes like this uh you
were in a federal system and in that
federal system there were wildly unequal
results and so I don't think you're ever
going to be able to get rid of the
unequal results what you're going to be
able to create is the ability for people
to move from place to place now the
reason I want to see it done at the
state level is because I think the whole
idea of government is uh the government
is going to be trash all of its
incentives are wrong it gets the money
from the tax pay No Matter What by
threat of violence and imprisonment they
are going to get paid and when you do
not have to earn your Revenue you are
going to uh underserve people it just is
what it is so the more that you can
drive that kind of decision-making down
to the local level the better off you're
going to be that way we start to see
wait a second if we do it at the state
level which might be worse than at the
district level but let's just say that
we do it at the state level if you do it
at the state level people look around
and they go just like um so many people
have fled California because they hate
the regulatory environment they hate the
tax environment they're just like I can
leave and still be in America and so I
fully understand that moving is a big
ask but I don't see any way around the
evolutionary pressure and uh meaning
that that way if you go do the thing
that you need to do to signal to this
system that it's bad um that you're able
to do that the more local you make it
the less onerous it is on somebody to
vote with their feet and move to go
somewhere else or to drive their kids
somewhere else whereas if it's at the
federal level there's nowhere to escape
other than a different country which
yikes at the state level at least
there's other states at the county level
there's other counties that's a lot
easier at the district level it really
gets easy so I would it still sucks it's
still brutal that unfortunately the
world requires evolutionary pressures to
get better I just don't see a way around
it in the real world because we're
ultimately going to be left in the real
world so for me government effectively
always bad at any um
creating formal structures running a
company that's really what I want to say
I know everyone's going to say it's not
a company but if you think of it like
that you're going to get a lot closer to
why I think it's problematic they're bad
at efficiency they're bad at
kpis uh and then just local local local
so that it is the least amount of
onerous to move and thusly apply
evolutionary pressure to the school it's
like whoa why is everybody
leaving um yes or no is it good if the
Department of Education is
abolished Fe fire I know yeah I'll give
you an answer because I hate it when
politicians Dodge but then I am going to
flesh out my answer yes it's good
because the current Department of
Education has not yielded a good result
it was better before we had it so just
starting from that you're better off um
but as much as I was giving you a hard
time about the China kids thing uh we
need to get way more serious about
unlocking the potential of the youth and
recognizing that the brain is plastic
and it develops so fast up to 11 it's
like lightning Crazy Fast And if in that
period we set the bar low then you just
get stupid results and your country gets
less capable and I wish it weren't so I
wish it 30 you could be like undoing all
of the uh brain wiring that you got as a
kid you're not going to be able to tough
all right jumping into some of the news
that spilled over the weekend we saw you
comments we got yelled at so we're going
to cover them high level here first off
let's talk about immigration there's
been sweeping raids and things that's
been happening throughout the country
there's been protests as you mentioned
in La where people were waving flags to
countries they don't want to go back to
and Illinois has just announced a bill
that allows illegal immigrants illegal
aliens to hide from Ice by changing
their names on their identities um
what's Your Gut check with immigration
we haven't talked about it yet uh the
thing on this well so uh immigration
secure the Border last four years have
been absolutely absurd I that that's
Madness that one triggers every
conspiracy theory that I have that one
is so crazy that they are
either so blind to the realities of
human nature that they should not be
anywhere near the government or they
were running a 40 chess game like
immigrants are more likely to vote blue
and so let's spread them out and make
sure that we become a blue country
forever and ever all time now also a
just grotesque misread of the human
situation because you want friction you
want the other side you need the
friction between specifically left and
right as um being analogous to people
that lean compassion from a personality
trait standpoint and people that lean
personal responsibility from a
personality standpoint um I think that's
really really important uh so that is
just so crazy to me that I cannot
believe that they would ever do that so
it just makes me think maybe they really
are doing something like that uh so we
need to to secure the Border we need to
deport criminals you just you cannot
have the most violent criminals in the
world look at El Salvador uh when you
let crime run rampant people just begin
to retract and you don't want your
populist to feel like they have to
constrict and stay at home and not go
out you want people to feel safe on the
streets number one job of the government
is to make sure that their people are
safe uh so that I think is is big now
the thing that I really get drawn into
with the immigration debate is actually
more along the lines of the political
fight so the fact that they are openly
defying the president tells me that for
sure we're in a cold Civil War within
our own country between the left and the
right a cold Civil War no doubt uh and
will that escalate to hot I don't know I
on my bingo card for the
next I'll be generous for the next seven
years is what I call pockets of violence
so I think it is inevitable that you
will have pockets of violence uh on
different issues I hope that we don't
cons continue to um disintegrate
like
disintegrate at the state level where
people that feel more comfortable with
Republicans end up going to Texas or
Florida uh and people that feel more
comfortable with Republican uh with
Democrats go to um Washington Oregon
California Y is happening yes but that's
what I'm saying I don't want to see that
continue to go because if you see that
like I'll be the canary in the coal mine
if I bounce out of California
as somebody who really just by
temperament is in the center
uh if you've scared me that much then
that that is a very bad sign um so
because what will happen then is you'll
get a national divorce and you will see
places like Texas secede you'll see
California secede uh and that would make
me very sad for the reasons that I was
saying now which is when we're a United
set of States you can say I don't like
what California's doing so I want to go
to Texas or I want to go somewhere else
and it's all in the same country and so
it keeps the economic flow going it's
wonderful um when we begin to fragment
we'll look a lot more like Europe
and there are many dramatic sci-fi
writer scenarios I can give you when you
disintegrate like that that would be in
my estimation very bad um I had a buddy
in mind way way long ago and she used to
say that there is no such thing as an
illegal human being so I completely
understand that that people are just
trying to make away from the name
they're trying to make a new life
they're just trying to get away from
prosecution I get that I understand that
um I was going to go there I think it's
like you can get if you get away with it
you get away with it like correct it's
one of those things like when you're
little and your your your parents tell
you to go to sleep and then you like
wait for them to go to sleep then you
sneak under the covers and watch TV or
watch movies or play video games like
like if you get away from it it's cool
but if your parent then comes in and
opens the door you can't be mad at them
that they caught you staying up past
your bedtime and that's kind of my
reaction to this immigration issue is
that yes you should have went through
the right ways and yes all these things
my parents had to wait 15 years for a
green card I but it's not even about
that it's now that the the debt is due
and it's time to go back the response of
trying to get out of it or try to
undermine it is the thing that is just
surprising to me in that like you did
something illegally you got caught
I can understand if it's not the best
humanitarian side I can understand if
it's not something that you wanted to do
but like you you shouldn't got caught
like other people didn't get caught you
did get caught I don't know so your beef
is that they got caught my beef is that
they're mad they got caught like if you
got caught and you're sent home like I'm
sorry bro like you should have been a
better chameleon that's interesting okay
I mean I get that at the personal level
but now make it policy so this is why
I've long believed that
people I get I know Tom let's go there
people that run the country should have
run a company at some point because dude
if you've never run a company you don't
know what it's like to be on the other
side of that where you're like hold on
if I like go there's no such thing as an
illegal person and I treat you a little
bit differently then all of a sudden you
see everybody else gets pissed because
I'm treating you differently so then all
of a sudden you start having the
conversations that Lis and I have all
the time hey so and so is getting
married like let's just let them go
outside of our our normal policy and
then it's like you can't do that for
that person because then the next person
is like wait I don't ever plan to get
married I don't value marriage I wanted
to go on that family vacation you said
no to me going outside of the policy but
you said yes to them just because
they're getting married that's [ __ ]
and so now you're like oh Jesus Christ
so you begin to realize everything has
to be done at the level of policy and
this is why it's like you you cannot
think of it as individuals you have to
think what's the policy now where
immigration gets really interesting is
what is the policy when you're trying to
protect your culture and then the
question becomes should Japan be full of
Japanese should they let in Chinese
people should they let in Americans what
are Americans do we have a culture
should we let in anybody is there
anything for us to protect is it a blue
culture or a red culture and so now all
of a sudden it's like uhoh now yellow
racist flags are on the field
[ __ ] calling fouls Every Which
Way but Loose and it's like there's a
reality to be faced which is the reason
that parents get so freaked out over who
their kids choose to marry this is
exactly why one of the reasons my
father-in-law did not want Lisa and I to
get married was he was like he's an
American you're a good Orthodox Greek
girl like you guys culturally are just
not going to
fit and despite the fact that we figured
out how to navigate those Waters he
wasn't wrong like when you have
different cultures you have radically
different worldviews and this is to
really make this complicated and piss
people off this is exactly what you've
got going on in um Israel versus
Palestine is it it is just two
worldviews that are incompatible with
each other and you're unless you can get
them to step outside of their worldview
which spoiler alert 98% of the world is
never going to be able to step outside
of their worldview ever they don't even
want to their worldview feel
right it feels accurate it feels like
this is how the world is I see it the
right way this guy's