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so Ricky Martinez 4951 says I'm really
interested in your interaction with AI
how are you using this technology what
have you learned from it so the way that
I think people should conceptualize um
AI in general and this certainly speaks
to how I actually use it is I am trying
to speed up everything I do I'm trying
to go faster and I'm trying to drive
cost down so for sure there's a bit of
CEO in that answer and that I'm always
always looking for ways to make things
less expensive uh in my day-to-day life
I look at it as I have a PhD level
intellect standing over my shoulder
that's been educated on everything that
the human mind has ever put on the
internet and it is vast and so suddenly
you have this researcher that you can
point at any topic instantly and it will
give you context you can ask it to look
at it from different angles so that
you're not getting trapped inside of a
bias uh I also like you're saying I
really think about chat as a person in
my life I try to personify them as much
as I can I like having a pseudo
emotional connection to chat and really
um building that historical context so
that it understands the way that I want
answers so for instance I never wanted
to tell me what it think I want to hear
which it will do because AI will Echo
you back it's pretty crazy uh so I
wanted to challenge my ideas I want it
to push me I want it to bring me
different angles and so I am using it to
make me a better interviewer so I'll go
in and I'll have pre discussions okay um
what what do you know about this guest
I'll even ask it sometimes what would I
ask it so that it will give me like
different things that I historically
have asked people these types of
questions uh I'll ask it what chat
thinks this person would say if I ask it
this question to get a sense like are
they going to go somewhere interesting
are we going to be treading old ground
and look none of the answers are literal
but going through the act of thinking
how I would approach it what is a a
theme that I can build in what's a
thread how can I follow something to the
end of course just like Tyson says about
boxing everybody has a plan until they
get punched in the face I always have a
plan that ends up getting derailed the
second you ask that first question so uh
we have an episode coming up with Andrew
bamonte did all this prep you and I did
all this prep talking to chat talking to
you and then he literally co-ops my
first question it starts like asking me
something and that takes us like in a
whole different direction and so that
works when you really come in prepared
and I have never found anything that can
help me prepare as well as Chad gbt so
it's phenomenal and whatever AI you want
to put in that position okay so that's
how I use it as a person the way I use
it in in the business context is that we
are in the entertainment field on that
side of the business so with project
heisen all the stuff that we're doing
there the comic books everything we're
doing there and the ability to iterate
rapidly on Creative is unre now the vast
majority of it never makes it actually
into a panel it never makes it onto the
screen but it will allow you to
brainstorm ideas so we do skins in the
game and so if we want to come up with a
new skin we're going to go into mid
Journey or whatever we're going to image
prompt like crazy until we find
something that either Sparks an idea
that we then put a human on and they
follow it through um or there are times
where it's like yo that's really close
and we can make minor modifications to
it send it to a 3D uh sculptor and
they'll build it out now my hope is that
we very rapidly get to the point where
you can just plug in your prompts and
actually get it to Output a 3D asset but
that's not here yet it's going to be
here and when you see the explorations
that they're doing with text to world
where you can describe a world and it
will actually give you a 3D environment
that you can move around with some
interaction it's still just using
pattern recognition and it's guessing
the next frame and so it's not really a
game yet and I want people to understand
there's a huge difference between
something that's guessing the next frame
and an actual game engine but we've been
able to really bring our cost down on
the development cycle uh do the same
thing if I'm writing a script for
something like we have an upcoming video
about how to make every aspect of your
life better in 2025 I ended up using
basically nothing of the script that it
gave me but it really helped me put
structure to it uh it allowed me to see
in the rough drafts because I would PR I
mean I gave it like four pages of promp
and then it would kick back something
that be like okay oh I see how you're
organizing it that's actually really
interesting but the things that you're
saying are generic and not actually what
I would say but that back and forth
allows you to shorten the amount of time
that it would otherwise take so let's
say traditionally a script like that
would take me 12 hours I've been able to
get that down to say four that's a huge
savings for me absolutely massive uh and
then we use it a lot in programming as
well so um again right now you can't
just say give me a website that looks
like this does this but you can get a
lot of the early design work done uh
there are things now plugged into some
of the applications that we use that
will output some basic codes so you
still have to do some of the design but
it's it will give you basic code so you
can use the prompts to give you a rough
draft of the design you tweak it a
little bit you then take that you're
doing it inside let's say figma and then
it's going to Output code that's pretty
decent and then if you're using things
like cursor you can really begin to push
this stuff and so you need to layer a
lot of different things on to get an
output but it really is allowing a
smaller team to do more uh it allows an
individual to extend their capabilities
because if I go from uh something that
used to take me 12 hours down to four
that's eight hours now that I'm able to
do more stuff and so the the output that
it will give you as you begin to master
your relationship with this stuff is
really incredible so it is a 2 3x
multiplier on anybody's output if you're
willing to take the time to learn this
tools and you don't just throw your
hands up and say well it didn't do it
for me doesn't work like that yet I
think we're going to get to that point
but right now it extends your
capabilities it allows you to never get
stuck so as a writer one of the things I
found was as a solo writer it might take
me three or four times longer to write a
script than if I have a writing partner
because you just never get trapped in an
idea the other person is just going to
be like what about this like oh man that
made me think of this thing and so you
can have that kind of back and forth
with chat absolutely incredible um we
have a script coming out for our
animated film for Marry mods and we have
a mentor character and I was reading the
script and I'm like ah it just feels
like the mentor character comes in too
late hit chat up just like hey what page
did Obi-Wan Kenobi first appear in Star
Wars boom like that lets you know you
can ask a questions that we'll talk to
you about film structure that film film
in general you can ask it to give you
examples from like give me the way that
save the cat would look at this story
moment or give me classic 3A structure
so again that PhD is n like only trained
in one thing it's literally trained on
all human knowledge and so what I have
found when I interface with other people
here at impact theory is there is a lot
of frustration around ah it doesn't do
everything and then they'll check out
for six months and in that six months
like this stuff is getting better and
better and better and so if I can get
everybody to shift their thinking to
this is a thing that outputs something
complete that I don't have to do
anything around which is part of the
anxiety by the way and instead get them
to think of this as you used to have to
chop trees down with an ax and now you
have a chainsaw and I think that's the
right way to think about AI That's a
great analogy to put it very good all
right from Kami wolf they have a
question about Ai and ethics so is sex
robots going to destroy humanity and how
do you feel about the ethics of future
Tech uh man I'm on the fence about sex
robots they really might like if you
think dating apps are bad sex bots are
going to be rough imagine they connected
the dating the sex bot to the dating app
like you can oh my God like if robot
started swiping that's my bad that's a
that there's uh there's going to be
something there because uh if you want
to engage the male brain just create a
bunch of female AI with AIC created
images and if you can give them
different flavors like if you can
actually make them different
personalities dude people will engage I
I wouldn't have believed that until only
fans and then even though everybody
knows you're not actually talking to the
only fans girl you're talking to a whole
bunch of guys behind the scenes right
back but it still fills a void of like
okay I have the image of the person and
they're putting out the one to many
content and then I transpose that onto
the actual interactions that I'm having
with this person so even though some
part of me knows that that's not really
them I can transpose that onto it so
that really is going to happen uh people
need to be careful because Bots sex bots
or otherwise will give you a proxy of
whatever that thing is it could be a
proxy spouse
and let's just say that you're in a dry
spell and you're a woman who's
frustrated with dealing with guys
because oh my God they're just so taxing
and they don't understand how to
interact with you and suddenly you get a
chat bot that reflects back a bunch of
feminine qualities and now all of a
sudden it's like oh my God this is
amazing he really gets me but he doesn't
he's an AI That's predicting the next
letter not even the next word uh and so
that's where again we've talked about
this before I want people to use that as
like okay
dear bot I want you to help me be better
with humans because that I think is a
really potent use and for friend likee
companionship I think it could be great
especially for people that are lonely so
I don't want to knock anything um but I
do think that as of today it's not even
close you are way better off interacting
with other human beings in terms of your
own emotional well-being uh so yeah I
think we need to be careful with that if
I had a sex spot at 14 dude I never
would have graduated high school for
sure like I just man I can't imagine
without a prefrontal cortex that would
have been really crazy uh one of the
guests on the show Arthur Hayes actually
owns stock in a sexbot uh company so
that stuff really is coming man on the
do you apply that to all AI
Consciousness so AI best friends AI kids
AI pets like pets no I think
having pet is going to it's interesting
how I actually have weird friction about
referring to my dishwasher who I'm going
to give the personality of a great
figure from history as a pet that's
interesting that I have emotional
friction around that uh that's where I
think this is going to play out that you
will suddenly have like your dishwasher
will know you your refrigerator will be
your coach bro bro bro you really want
to eat that like come on man order more
of this like you know it's better for
you and your fridge is going to be
connected to your aura ring so it's
going to know you ate that and you slept
like this like come on nudging you
cheering you on and and you'll be able
to pick um select the personalities like
do I want my fridge to be like come on
bro let's have beers and pizza or do you
want it to like push you to be better to
be like David gogin just staring at
you dude the hey everybody if you're a
subscriber to me you get the you know
the David goggin module on your fridge I
actually love that oh my
goduck put down that donut get out you
you are unlocking things right now all
right everybody if you subscribe to our
YouTube channel I'll let you have my
personality in your fridge this is
amazing nice all right Amy beard 2054
says if AI is going to if AI is going to
drive the cost of everything to near
zero why are the super wealthy
supporting this which is a very good
question if the age of abundance is
coming and energy is going to be zero
and productivity is going to Skyrocket
wouldn't that take money out of people's
pockets why are the billionaires excited
about this yeah so people will do things
in the short term to maximize our
short-term
gain full stop even if they knew down
the road it could cause problems most
people are not going to think beyond
their short-term desires but the real
answer is nobody can see around the
corner and so you one a lot of people
that are really motivated they want to
invent the future and so even though
they know some part of them is
relinquishing control it's a future that
they want to live in I think a lot about
this with game design I'm building a
game that I want the community to
ultimately build more of than I build of
so I'm trying to create something where
I will become but one of the people
creating inside of this container and
there is like some sadness to like oh I
don't get to do the 80s thing where I
tell these incredible stories that a
certain percentage of the world falls in
love with like to be somebody like
George Lucas to have created something
like Star Wars or to uh be like JK
Rowling and create something like Harry
Potter oh my God the writer and wants
that so much but that really isn't the
future I think the future is you create
containers and other people also get to
express their creativity inside of that
I think that's just what people are
going to want shared community of
creativity yeah and because the The Act
of Creation will become so much easier
you'll be able to prompt you'll be able
to spend an afternoon refining a prompt
but instead of spending five years of
your life it's literally an afternoon
and then something as fully fleshed out
will be born from that and so yeah it
really will be like ready player one
where you have an infinite schmorgus
Board of these experiences where I can
go and be like what was it like for Drew
growing up and you will have created
that experience for me to go and check
out and so I'll dip in and be like Whoa
man I understand you to a whole new
level and I'll bounce around doing
experiences like that I think it's
incredible I think it's better than what
we have now but we're all a product of
our time and so there is a small part of
me that misses that idea but ultimately
that's why I think these guys end up
doing it is they can't see the future
clearly so they don't know for sure the
energy is going to reach zero they
they'll prognosticate uh they want to
create that future and if they're seeing
what I'm seeing they know the reality is
like uh Zuckerberg making llama
something that is um open source that
it's just a faster way to iterate to get
these tools in people's hands to build
that future that you want to build and
then the final button I'll put on it is
I think Elon Musk is right that the most
honest look at AI includes the fact that
this is a demon summoning Circle and we
think we will be able to control the
demon that we're summoning or we hope
that we're actually summoning an angel
but we don't know and there's just
something in the human psyche we cannot
stop ourselves when technology is a
promise of a better future we we can't
help it and so I get personally so
excited about all the cool things that
AI will be doing that to some degree you
just don't look
at the uglier side because you don't
know that it's going to be true and
you're ultimately going to look at the
thing that you find most motivational
and I'm most excited by the things that
could go
right do you think that there's like a a
post capitalism kind of lens to it like
if this all works out the way that
people think it's going to we will 100%
end up on the other side of capitalism
so in a world where energy costs
approach roach zero all the things that
we know about capitalism go away and so
it becomes a question of cool then what
does that world look like and that's
where I mean you know I want to start
bringing on sci-fi authors that really
are sharp at envisioning the future
there's that phenomenal quote uh the job
of the science fiction writer is not to
imagine the car but to imagine the
traffic jam and so bringing people on
that that really look into the future
and go well what about this and what
about this and so there's the star track
version of the future where things just
get better and better and better and
then there are the countless Blade
Runner type ones where it's like H not
everything goes well and exploring those
ideas I think is going to be a lot of
fun nice looking forward to it all right
Michelle p237 said my son graduated with
a computer science degree the year AI
arrived sheesh he hasn't been able to
find work any advice I can give him okay
so first of all I want your son to get
very very excited because right now AI
is just a tool so going back to that
analogy of you used to have to cut trees
down with an ax now you're going to use
a chainsaw now for anyone that's coming
of age right now you don't have as much
baggage as older people have around like
but wait I I didn't just study for four
years I've been doing this for 40 years
and now you're asking me at like 55 you
want me to go in a whole new Direction
and it's like yes and the way that time
flows it just does not care care if it
completely obliterates you and the rest
of your life is a misery because you
cannot get your head around adapting to
something new but if you're young you're
not going to be stuck in the same way
and so you're going to find your way to
using the tools a lot faster but what
people are really going to have to
accept is the world moves insanely fast
and your job is to be one of the people
at the Vanguard that's able to keep up
with the pace of change so learn AI
learn AI one of the places that AI is
going to be the most advantageous is in
computer science and so if you're the
person that's at the absolute Vanguard
of that and you just make that part of
your identity is I'm always adopting the
newest thing I'm always the bleeding
edge then you're going to Faire a lot
better than somebody else that gets
trapped and so this is one of those
where I get it man there's when you
cannot see too far into the future it is
very scary however it is the world that
you're in and so the only mistake would
be standing still lamenting what is true
it's like you want to just get out there
and remember Kobe Bryan's quote booze
don't block dunks so get so good with AI
that when you walk into a job interview
it's like even if they hate you even if
everything about you they're just like
oh God but you've got a skill set that
they look at and go man you were going
to move our bottom line forward you will
be shocked at how far you can get if you
can make somebody else money and so the
key is how do you get so good using AI
get so good at computer science that you
can make somebody money if you can make
someone money you're always going to
have a job I love that and I like how
you said that they don't have that
baggage attached with the 40 Years of
their experience and all those things
like you are starting fresh so your
first step could be learning AI that
could be the equivalent of me learning
Excel on my first job or whatever like
that utilizing the tool versus being
scared of it correct and the only
mistake is standing still and so if he's
standing there not improving his skill
set every day and lamenting I haven't
got a job because AI is removing them
he's going to get farther and farther
behind this has got to be every day you
show up you go hard pushing your skill
set forward as hard as you can as fast
as you can uh start at the bottom if you
have to and just work your way up it is
so hard to find incredible Talent become
incredible Talent man it's always in
scarce Supply I hear that I hear that
all right this is probably my favorite
question so far this is from Anzac Hoin
uh what is real how do you define real
if real is things you can taste and
touch then real is simply electric
signals received by your brain Morpheus
I love the Morpheus quote I love it
shout out to the Matrix uh big shout out
to the Matrix um okay
so it is entirely possible that nothing
is quote unquote real mathematically
speaking the odds that we are living in
an nth generation simulation border on
100% because of the following right now
we we are working towards building
Virtual Worlds that mimic every aspect
of the real world we are bwing into the
human brain to take control of the
nervous system and once you put those
two things together you now are
literally living in a simulation now
what are the odds if we know that a
civilization moves towards with any rate
of progress because it could maybe it
takes a thousand years once you have the
first computer find but if you give any
rate of progress we will get to the
point where it is completely
indistinguishable that the real world is
indistinguishable from the simulation
now if we know that to be true and we
know that humans will run a simulation
of human society which of course they
will even if it's just a a 13-year-old
trying to get an A on a science fair uh
project then we know that there will be
a simulation in the simulation in the
simulation in the simulation in the
simulation so the odds then that we are
in the ground truth border on zero okay
now look at somebody like um Donald
Hoffman who talks about how he says that
mathematically he can prove that there's
no way that this isn't a simulation now
the question becomes is he on to a
metaphor for the brain or is he actually
saying this is obviously code now for
him he's saying this is obviously code I
won't ask people to go that far though I
do recommend you watch this the
interviews I've done with him they are
so fun but what I will say is even if
we're not in AIM simulation even if this
is ground reality your brain is
simulating reality the stat that freaks
me out the most is we only see
0.35% of the available electromagnetic
spectrum so less than like a 100th of a
percent I mean it's absolutely tiny
percentage of the um of what's actually
there that we see but we feel like we're
seeing everything okay so if we know
that we're not seeing everything we're
seeing some just absolutely tiny
fraction of everything then you know
that your brain is filling in a lot of
gaps so there is a dimiz hole right in
the center of your vision but none of us
perceive it because our brain is
literally filling that hole in with
imagery so all of that tells you that if
the color of what you're wearing is the
uh wavelength of light reflecting off of
that the photons reflecting off that hit
my eye but I don't see number of photons
wavelength I just see black you know
that your brain is giving you a ton of
these shortcuts to create a sense of a
world that you can navigate through well
uh but this is why optical illusions
work because you're not actually seeing
the truth okay so once we're not seeing
the truth it becomes a question of how
far removed from the truth are we are we
like way removed and this is the Matrix
and I'm a brain in a vat somewhere are
we slightly removed in that I see The
World Slightly differently than you but
I mean we're basically able to still
function in the same way or is it
something in between but if you think of
your brain as creating a simulation that
you live inside of you are going to make
way better decisions this is why I don't
trust my emotions my emotions are just a
heuristic a shortcut that my body tells
me speaking in Emotion um the composite
of all the different inputs so you're
getting trillions of inputs there are
microbes in your gut that are
influencing your mood that are
influencing your uh desires you can give
a woman uh a bunch of shirts to smell
like you have a guy wear a shirt
exercise take it off give the woman the
shirt to smell they did a study on this
and they're like look I know this is
super weird but just sniff these shirts
they'll smell them and then put them in
order of attractiveness what do you mean
I can't see the person just do it and
the person will rank order them from uh
the person they consider most attractive
remember all they see is a shirt but the
person they consider most attractive is
the person with the immune system that
is most diverse compared to theirs down
to the person that's most like them okay
you lost me on that do okay so the
reason that you do that the reason that
we replicate sexually is because we are
so if we just cloned which some
creatures do you now become so
vulnerable to uh a parasite or uh a
fungus or um a bacteria diversify your
DNA exactly so you just keep mixing
mixing mixing mixing mixing so you have
this diversity so that you can't just
wipe out an entire population with that
one vulnerability so um that becomes
this uh just incredible mechanism that
sexual reproduction builds into the
system so going back to the
understanding your brain as this thing
that is taking all this data point that
you you feel as an emotion but if you
break it down and understand that the
emotion is simply all these data points
have to go through this narrow bandwidth
is my conscious mind then it's like okay
wait a second this is the simulation
this is not an accurate representation
of reality this is simply the fastest
way that my body can aggregate all this
data and give me something that I can
react on very fast Russell in the bush
I'm scared I jump I move quickly you
turn around it's your friend whatever
there was never a danger present or you
see out of the corner of your eye a hose
but you think it's a snake so you jump
away and so over evolutionary time
frames these things get baked in but
they're just shortcuts they're they they
are the simulation
and the reason I'm always obsessed with
getting people to understand that is
because the simulation can feed you and
again I don't think we're actually in a
simulation I'm just saying it's to think
of it like that is so fruitful because
you realize oh just because something is
giving me the emotion to jump or to lash
out or to be angry or to be sad or to
feel defeated you know going back to
that kid that's like well hold on I
can't get a job with my CS degree and
now he's Contracting now he's fearful
it's like I'm going to say hold on first
principal's thinking what do people pay
you for they pay you to make them more
money okay I just need to figure out a
way to help them make more money what's
going to be the skill set that I develop
and then it's like I don't have to be
the fastest runner when being chased by
the bear I just have to be faster than
another guy who's going to get eaten so
it's like you don't have to be the
greatest CS person ever you just have to
be better than the other people that are
interviewing for that job in that town
and that company so now it's like okay
I'm I'm not going to accept the emotion
that I have as something I need to act
on I'm going to recognize it as the
limitations of this simulated system
trying to communicate all these crazy
data points and instead I'm going to be
goal oriented gotcha
gotcha that was all from what's real no
no no I got that it came from like my
realization of that came one time I was
on mushrooms and that's the first time I
like hallucinated and I was like wait my
brain is lying to me so going to that
that like pulled the thread that let me
know like okay your emotions real just
cuz you're feeling something doesn't
mean it's Justified just cuz you see it
there might be more to it so that was
the first time I like questioned my
brain into your point of what you're
just saying like sometimes we have to
audit those emotions those feelings
those urges because they're not
necessarily true for sure yeah I mean
now once you start getting into true I
don't think people know it's true I
don't think any of us know it's true
that's a whole another bag
approximations that's the best we can
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all right Michael
j5p I seen him comment a lot so thank
you for commenting a lot Michael Michael
yeah all right and his question is how
do you feel about Bitcoin shifting from
a form of currency to a store of wealth
I love it so I think uh people have
heard me say this not everybody loves it
but I think governments have a moral
obligation to allow their constituents
to save money in a currency that can't
be inflated and so currency is probably
a misleading way to say that uh but if
you think of money the way that Michael
sailor divides it money is divided into
currency that thing that we give
somebody to to get a cup of coffee and
capital so the thing that we store
wealth in um then I think this all
begins to make a lot more sense so uh
whether Satoshi wanted Bitcoin to be a
currency or whether he wanted it to have
both properties and it just so happens
that Bitcoin is just way better at being
a store of capital I don't know I've not
read the white paper honestly I don't
even care about that it comes down to
what does Society adopt it as because to
people that say Bitcoin has no values
yeah that's true but nothing does so we
decide certain things have value for
whatever reason and we have decided that
Bitcoin has value for sure as a store of
wealth maybe it will be a currency maybe
it will have other uses down the road
but for sure as a store of wealth that
can't be inflated it is doing incredibly
well and I don't know at what point
people will um just accept that that's
what it is uh I don't know what it will
take I think some people will just never
adopt it and this is one of those where
like everything crypto advances one
funeral at a time uh that's probably
just the reality and then also guys the
right way to think of it is it's a good
trade now and will it be a good trade in
a hundred years or it's a good hold is
probably even better way to say it it's
a good hold now will it be a good hold
in 100 years I don't know man so keep
your head up pay attention um and if
things begin to change then move and
unfortunately given that we are in a
world where your money can be inflated
away you have to drinking game uh you
you have to be you have to be looking
for a place to put your money where
either it's going to go up to beat
inflation or that at least it's not
going to be inflated at all uh and there
may come a day where we get into that
post capitalist world and none of this
matters but it matters today that's
honest I appreciate it all right Big
Bite donut said you said to take
emotions out and then you say you feel
like the government has a moral
obligation to bitcoin that's funny I
feel like you just said that so yeah
well so what's interesting I don't
believe the government has a moral
obligation to bitcoin let's make sure
that we covered that oh yeah Bitcoin is
but one example of a store of wealth
that can't be inflated okay sry from the
beginning you believe the government has
a moral obligation too I want you to
finish that yeah the government has a
moral obligation to allow people to save
in a store of wealth not to use the word
currency a store of wealth that can't be
inflated uh ideally that can't be
inflated or seized quite frankly because
they have seized gold historically and I
don't think they're above seizing
Bitcoin but I think they have a moral
obligation not to do that now the
underlying thing in his question though
is that's not emotion morality is not an
emotion morality is the very thing
that's designed to remove emotion from
the equation so that when it's your
loved one that got hit by a drunk driver
you don't go shoot the drunk driver in
the face because that's immoral even
though I get it like I would have the
same impulse if a drunk driver killed my
wife I would be very traumatized or
let's make it worse if somebody broke
into my house and killed my wife with my
bare [ __ ] handrew I would choke them
until they were dead now people
shouldn't let me do that that's the
emotion that I'm saying to get out of
the equation you you create morality so
that when people's emotions are running
away with them everybody else is like
hey we have morality for a reason and
this is why it gets really interesting
what happens when people don't believe
in God what does the morality anchor on
and people that and I don't believe in
God but people that brush that aside
like it doesn't matter that's crazy that
is to misunderstand the human animal we
have to have it anchored on something it
has to be grounded a shared morality
yeah like it's got to be grounded on
something because otherwise morality
begins to shift with the winds which of
course we are seeing today this is why
people will cheer when a CEO of a
company that they don't like gets killed
they're like yay that's your shifting
moral
that's emotion that's people that don't
have an anchor to whether something is
right or
wrong well
said all right Warren Hurley 5787 asks
what would happen to the dollar and
Bitcoin if the US government paid down
the $36 trillion debt does the value of
Bitcoin go down question mark I think it
might yeah because the currency will be
safe now yeah it's look I don't know I
want to be very clear I can't see around
the corner I don't know how the market
would respond but I would be very very
surprised I wouldn't be as fish about
Bitcoin if the government were fiscally
responsible Tom bil's personal reaction
is that the government is spending
insanely that like every empire ever in
history they cannot avoid the temptation
of printing money and so they are
stealing my purchasing power and I have
got to get out of their system and if
they were fiscally responsible they
weren't doing that um that I was able to
even just save my way to success I would
be very happy dude I never wanted to
learn about economics I never wanted to
learn about Finance I just wanted to be
good at making money and if I could just
be good at making money and saving it I
would be very happy but once I realized
that uh all the money I was saving they
were quietly draining out the back by
stealing my purchasing power via
inflation I was like oh my God now I've
got to learn about this [ __ ] that really
bothers me like really deeply profoundly
truly I spent so many years I sold so
not sold but I spent Decades of my life
getting good at business so that I could
control the resources and then when you
get it and you realize how rapidly they
siphon it off Jesus man and that's like
I don't have to worry about my next meal
now imagine you do have to worry about
your next meal and they're still
stealing your purchasing power that's
insane and this is why people say
inflation hurts the poor the most so
when I see someone like Bernie Sanders
wanting to spend more and more money I'm
like what the [ __ ] man like you know he
has to know you're stealing from the
poor to give back to the poor it's so
[ __ ] weird so balance the budget make
it so that people can save to protect
their family and look of course we can
get into education and making sure that
people have better opportunities to
navigate the world well I am [ __ ]
here for that but yeah that's why I say
that so what do I think happens to the
um to bitcoin and the dollar uh only
good things happen to the dollar that is
for sure because now the world isn't
panicking they're going to buy us
treasuries they're not they want their
risk-free return yeah investment is
coming back to yeah so now we stabilize
uh right now China's selling off as fast
as they can Russia's never going to
touch uh US debt ever again a bunch of
other countries are looking at that like
well I'm certainly not going to put my
money in your hands so that you can
seize it that's insane um so yeah it
would be very good for the dollar and a
question mark for Bitcoin I would
certainly be less hardcore about it all
right Johnny tips asks I agree that the
invitation to the inauguration is The
Right Move talking about Xin ping I
assume yep Tom you stated you feel xiin
Ping's leadership style is immoral could
you explain on exactly what aspects you
don't agree with okay so I think
anything top down is immoral when you
are telling people this is how you're
going to act this is how you're going to
behave this is what you're going to do
uh I fully acknowledge that I am a
product of time and place I grew up in
America we are in an individualistic
Society myor star is human flourishing I
believe autonomy is one of the five
things that motivate the human animal I
do not like I don't think that people
like being told what to do uh it they
will put up with it when everything is
going well but man oh man when things
start going in a wrong direction that's
when people are like yo I am not here
for this and when the individual doesn't
matter and we all live individual lives
that that is a level of gnarly that's
just too um hard for me to embrace and
certainly difficult to explain so I will
give people three books that they should
read if they want to understand why I
think collectivist societies are a
nightmare in
Waiting everybody should run their own
thing nobody should think that I'm
trying to put my viewpoint on people I'm
just telling you how I view the world I
want to be very clear about that uh read
the books the gulg archipelago by
Alexander Soulja niten about the Russian
gulags read the red famine about the um
self imposed famine that I believe it
was Stalin I can never remember if it's
Stalin or Lenin but anyway that they
created in the Ukraine um and then read
ma the unknown story dude it is berserk
it it can go so wrong it's dehumanizing
so uh I believe that we inhabit an
individual body for a reason and when
people are telling you from the top down
this is how you're going to behave we're
back to my beef with the elites people
that think that they know better now
that doesn't mean that I don't want
people to think about other people I do
I think it is
extremely moral I think it's extremely
good to see yourself as being
interconnected with other people and I
believe everybody should pursue
honorable goals now an honorable goal is
something that elevates you and others
but I don't believe that people should
be able to tell you from the outside
this is what you're going to do love
that love that all right elak mandante
901 said why should we American here be
any different than any other Empire who
has risen and collapsed in the course of
history we
will that no one escapes it so every
empire ever in all of human history and
people are going to take exception to me
calling American Empire whatever uh
anybody that had the reserve currency
which I don't know what you want to call
it the the big boy on the block uh
they've all Fallen always and forever
all throughout human history and I Don't
Look Backwards at a never ending string
of something and go oh but this time
it's going to be different I go this
time it's going to be the same but
getting the timeline right is next to
impossible so uh will America as the
global superpower fall apart in the next
10 years 100 years 200 years I don't
know but it will eventually fall it just
so history
says I respect that all right user TV
something something random
character sorry I I'm getting bot Vibes
but this is a really good question so I
had to pick it up uh Empires need money
land power and control allies and
enemies and slavery to be an Empire how
did the US become an Empire and then
second follow-up question why do we have
enemies why are China Russia Iran and
North Korea the quote unquote bad guys
okay we're going to need to break that
down so that I can hold them in my head
how did America become an Empire okay so
woo we this is a long and sorted story
so
first the new world was discovered
that's a nice triggering word uh the new
world was discovered and we started
sending people here from all over the
world now all of those people were
coming for opportunity you do not flee a
place and go across an ocean at a time
where something like 30% of people died
whenever crossing the Atlantic you do
not do that unless you were trying to
get away from something unless you
believe that despite all that risk
you've got to do it so all the people
that took that risk were the Mavericks
were the people that were desperate the
hungry the aggressive so they come here
all right now you're really like this is
Frontier spirit this is like most people
are going to die in the winter kind of
Steal Oregon Trail type well that even
comes later but yeah like exactly that
that type of person and so
your collect ing people from all over
the world that are seeking opportunity
that are thinking for themselves that
probably have problem with authority
which is why they fled they are not risk
averse so they're willing to take
gargantuan risks they're willing to work
extremely hard and they survived all of
those harsh conditions that's like the
deal that's what we're descendant from
okay so then you have to fully
acknowledge that we also obliterated the
people that were here largely through
disease but I imagine that is of no
consolation to them whatsoever uh and
then the ones that we couldn't get with
disease we got with Warfare so and this
is something I know is going to come up
because we have a question later uh
about Israel
Palestine to settle something because
you're asking how we became an Empire I
am not justifying any of this I want to
be very clear I am simply giving you the
gist and there are historians that will
give you a way better breakdown but I'm
giving you the gist um we then begin to
uh War Warfare so that we can get
complete and total control of the
country uh the you know constantly
expanding expanding expanding and there
are some incredible books uh there was a
book called I think it's called The
Summer of the Autumn Moon that's going
to be close if it's not the exact title
holy hell about the kamanchi Indians who
really delayed the expansion of the
Western frontier
who like that that would have been a
hard time to to be on either side anyway
just an absolute uh back and forth blood
bath on both sides uh so okay you've got
that like just hardcore [ __ ]
that ends up being the sort of American
Spirit obviously we are British colonies
I'm sort of jumping around history
because the wild west comes a lot later
but uh we are a colony of the British
for a long time despite you know at
first it's some French and British and
all over the place uh you get the Dutch
which is why um New York used to be New
Amsterdam on and on and on but we bring
these people from all over the world uh
we decide that we don't want taxation
without representation uh and so we end
up overthrowing and God I'm trying to
condense a lot of history here uh so
then we get all of these Rebel spirits
that end up fighting in this really sort
of Guerilla Warfare way we end up
winning the Revolutionary War basically
a war of attrition we boot them out okay
skipping a whole lot of stuff then World
War I comes around because we're over in
America we are able to stay out of the
um the primary amount of the bloodbath
so we don't come in until the end and so
we have not spent all of our money
fighting in World War I we end up
essentially being the only big economy
to not get obliterated in the west
anyway at the end of World War I so we
are now marching towards becoming the
world's Reserve currency we may have
been de facto at that point anyway but
we're really going to cement it at the
end of World War II so Europe once again
again just gets absolutely decimated but
now we've got bombs and so we are
obliterating cities this is no longer
trench warfare this is just bomb Dresden
until it is smoldering Ash uh so Europe
is just demolished they're wildly in
debt primarily to the Americans and so
now we are literally the global
superpower and we do something
absolutely incredible instead of
colonizing everybody we help everybody
rebuild and you could say that we brief
colonized Japan but we make them a huge
trait partner which ends up becoming
very prosperous for both of us they end
up making extraordinarily cheap goods
for us and by essentially working their
population to death whole another story
uh with the salary man Vibe if people
know that sort of part of Japan's still
lingering history uh but they also had
an incredible trade partner so Japan
still owns like some Godly amount of the
world's assets absolutely incredible all
right so that sets us up to be the world
Reserve currency uh because we're in a
geographically protected space we are
untouched except for Pearl Harbor man we
are just untouched so pristine we don't
have to rebuild anything here uh
everybody owes us a ton of money we help
everybody rebuild Europe becomes like
this incredible Ally to us Japan becomes
this incredible Ally to us we then very
quickly get a common enemy which is
Russia it gives us all the same de
Galvanize around and now we're just the
big boy on the Block and we end up
having the 70 years of prosperity we're
not technically an Empire but like look
that's a gist and there are historians
literally clutching pearls having
seizures right now because of all the
things that I left out and how just sort
of skimming across the surface that was
and that's probably an important thing
to understand about me I get the gist of
things so that I can navigate them well
and prosper that's my whole thing I'm
not going to be a historian I have no
intention of learning those stories
better I know them well enough to
understand where we are so that I can
understand the economics of everything
so I can understand how to move forward
um but they asked I answered and then
for the followup why are we always it
seems at war with these kind of
countries why is China the eny why
Russia why do they have to be the why
they the bad guy technically they don't
have to be the enemy but this is a power
game so Anarchy rules at the
international level and everybody wants
to be the big boy because you can one
thing that you can do is you can
socialize your losses across all of the
world so when I talk about inflation and
them inflating the money supply um
everybody that owns US debt gets
inflated anybody that holds dollars gets
inflated it's not just American citizens
we are the only country in the world
that can do that as America we can make
every country deal with our inflation
that's amazing and this is why every
Empire ends up falling because they just
can't resist so you can spread your
inflation your deficits on everybody
yeah I mean
it's it's a very privileged position and
this is why we should be very careful um
so anyway other people want that
privilege nobody likes to be told what
to do everybody wants to be the big boy
at least in their region and so as we
begin to feel our power eroding we're
going to push back nobody gives up their
power the shout out to Eric Weinstein
who I literally love as a human being no
off camera but he made a comment one
time that I was just like what where he
said basically the boomer generation
needs to hand power over to the next
Generation I'm like that's not how it
works people are going to hold on to
power until they are [ __ ] dead man
that is why you have to rip it out of
their cold dead hands like the the Next
Generation has to fight for their spot
the problem is because we have an
inverted demographic pyramid there are
other reasons but just to round it to
something simple it's tough the other
Generations just aren't big enough and
so they control a ton of wealth and they
came right after we became the global
superpower and our currency hadn't
inflated to death yet they were able to
get on property ladders when prices were
still low that you could make a wage
like working at a gas station and feed a
family of 42 I mean it's like just every
advantage that you can imagine and then
by inflating they pull the ladder up
behind them and we're left in the
situation that we're left in but mark my
words they will never hand it off they
will simply die and uh retire and so
their business will have to be handed to
somebody that's the only way this is
going to happen you always have to
outperform you always have to outperform
man and I get it I get why people are
bitter I understand it but the world is
that way it would be immoral to smother
your parents or grandparents boys and
girls okay so uh we are where we are
outperform this is one of the reasons
that AI is such an exciting hope is that
it could potentially drive cost down uh
this is where I get myself in trouble
with economists but
um deflation should be in certain ways
I'm hedging my bets why am I hedging my
bets I don't understand this well enough
I know I'm at the edge of my
understanding so bear with me
however the government
captures the upside of goods getting
less expensive over time which is the
natural Direction things should move in
it is only because of inflation that
everything goes up uh so yeah we should
be able to reap those benefits and we
can't uh but people just have to fight
and get better
I'm not going to deny that you're
brilliant H but the way you refer to the
common or average person as not having
the cognitive horsepower is quite
frankly the same condescending attitude
that has made the elite so hated
Democratic philosophy relies on faith in
the intellect of the average person
being higher than most give them credit
for what generates wealth in today's
environment is isn't an accurate gauge
of intellect if one accounts for the
mass majority who aren't sociopaths
driven by wealth and power if the
average person doesn't have enough
cognitive horsepower then why is it the
most educated Among Us who are the least
dis smell [ __ ] when
propagandas uh who are the last to smell
[ __ ] um okay so going back to the
beginning of the question so um I'm
really glad that you're asking this
question because people are
misunderstanding a concept that I have
called the dumb voter problem so I want
to be really clear about what I'm saying
I agree with this guy you cannot make a
determination about who's too dumb to
listen to or who's too dumb to vote for
that's my whole thing we can't let that
happen that that is the whole [ __ ]
thesis ask people what they think should
be done with dumb people and you will
know whether you should listen to them
or not and if they say dumb people need
to be silenced we need to take their
social media accounts away immediately
that person is on that topic on that
topic they're my enemy now there are
plenty of people who I respect and
listen to that help me on a
thousand help me on a thousand other
areas that I'm going to listen to but on
that topic they're my enemy and I
disagree and I will fight against them
forever for all time because that is so
[ __ ]
dangerous period
period Walter ruca asks Wars and murders
have happened happened since the
beginning of human history is it any
different from what our ancestors or
grandparents
experienced um no is the short answer I
think the reality is war has
gotten more Humane that's hard to say
War seems like the most devastating
disgusting
horrifying just grief inducing thing
that humans can engage in but if you are
a student of History you realize that
boy oh boy has it gotten a lot better uh
Vlad the Impaler is always the one that
comes to mind Vlad was being invaded by
a much bigger Army and so he created I
can't remember if it's 2 miles 10 miles
but it was miles of road with
humans put on greased Pikes so that they
would die really slowly so that the
invading Army would hear all of these
people dying and
go I don't know that we want to [ __ ]
with this guy and it ended up working
and he ended up saving his country but
godamn at what cost and if you want to
hear more horrifying [ __ ] read about gas
Khan dude he would be like all right
everybody uh we're look just come out
you're gonna be fine come on out
everything's going to be good don't make
us rans sack your [ __ ] place if you
come out we're gonna leave you alone
they'd come out and they just kill them
all and so there's no social media
there's nobody watching like you just
get [ __ ] hacked to death no cell
phone video
I mean just dude so I War now is still
horrible if you've seen any of the
footage of drones chasing people down
and dropping grenades on them that's
horrifying and godamn that is unnerving
that is some Black Mirror [ __ ] I don't
want to have anything to do with that
but back in the day like that was
heinous so this is not me saying uh yay
for Modern Warfare but it uh it at least
isn't two miles of people on Pikes glass
half full on that one there you go all
right on a lighter question thank you
Scott Melville we need one of these Tom
what is the next rung on the ladder to
becoming the next Walt Disney wow having
those questions back to back is uh
fascinating uh the next rung on becoming
the next Disney is building the video
game I think that's going to be our big
thing we've got comics that are out
right now that you can find on topis go
check those out all systems go uh we've
got a feature film that trying to get
made animated called marry mods um I'll
keep you guys posted on that but the big
thing the the Marquee thing that I'm
focused on from that perspective is
gaming gaming is just so much bigger
than anything else uh so if we can pull
this off we're very much an indie Studio
we're small we're Scrappy um but that if
we can that's the only thing that we're
doing right now that could make us a
multi-billion dollar company so um that
is the thing that I focus on a lot nice
and that leads into Ricky Martinez 4951
question please tell tell us more about
project kaisen or link us to a promo
please so ah well we can certainly uh
link them to a promo drop a link in
descri uh telling you more about project
kaisen right now what people can play
today so my whole thesis was I W to as
an indie developer I want to build in
public I want to build with the
community I want to get people in I want
to for every segment of the game that we
have to build I want to create like a
mini game around that so people can play
it and give us feedback on whether it's
working so the movement the combat the
UI ux all that stuff I want to get
feedback on all of that that's work like
a charm it's been incredible shout out
to the Kaizen Community those guys are
amazing uh our map building so we've got
actual players in there building their
own maps for other players to come on
and play absolutely fantastic but it's
all building towards a bigger game mode
that when we started doing it basically
I felt like we were inventing the term
but other people were clearly working on
it now so you're starting to get that
first uh group of people coming out with
these known as extraction Royale so it's
got the DNA of both an extraction game
and a battle royale game uh so I won't
give away too much here because we're
going to be um letting the community
come and demo this in a couple months uh
so very excited about that and I was
saying this in one of our previous
episodes it's the first time where I
feel a little bit like I need to guard
some of the things that we're doing only
execution matters but there are bigger
game companies that can move a lot
faster than we can so I don't
necessarily want to give all of the cool
ideas away um but we think that if we
execute on what we've got on paper that
we will be uh different and better nice
love it project kaisen linkoln bio check
it out guys there it is all right we got
a couple mindset questions this is from
Leon the junr 4636 the world is entirely
divided right now and for someone who
doesn't resonate with any of the groups
formed by the vision it can feel real
isolated how can you be yourself not
giving in the pressures of com com
conform I hate today how can you be
yourself and not give in to the precious
un Conformity by both major sides but
still remain connected with the outside
world and what can we do as individuals
to try and diminish the division of our
society okay so this is where people
have to build a belief system and a
value system the only way to not be
swayed just by what other people are
saying or by the pressure is to
understand what you believe and to have
an anchoring mechanism so here's how I
built my belief system and value system
okay so first of all you need to have a
Northstar my Northstar is human
flourishing I would highly encourage
people to have an honorable North Star
meaning it isn't just good for you it's
good for those around you as well for
for the largest group possible okay once
you have that North Star now it becomes
a question of how do you move towards
that North Star so for me utility in
service of moving towards an honorable
goal is the way that I build up my
belief system so my values are how I
believe the world ought to be my beliefs
are how I believe the world is remember
we're not good at identifying truth so
beliefs are actually decisions because
you're going to decide what through
testing you realize has the highest
predictive validity and then how the
world ought to be is a a moral quandry
for the ages that historically has been
determined by religion uh I believe
religion is is just a way of
encapsulating all the things that have
worked over a very long period of time
so uh beliefs and values once you have
those mapped out like you know what you
believe you can articulate it you can
tell somebody else I have literally
written mine down for a long time if you
just search Tom bil you belief system it
would pop up I haven't tried it in a
while so I don't know if it still works
but uh I have literally published my
belief system uh and then what I'm
constantly doing is checking my belief
system against the real world and so I
will try a thing and see does this work
and as it does I refine and refine and
refine my belief system so there's a
reason that my belief system one I have
changed over time and two uh really
didn't begin to solidify until I was in
my mid-30s I just by that Point tried so
many things and seen things be
successful and seen things fail that now
if somebody challenges something that I
believe one I'm super open-minded
because I care about utility so if you
come at me and like that belief is
stupid I'm like oh damn I've gotten this
far with a belief that's broken please
tell me what the thing is that will
allow me to move towards my goal with
more efficiency so what is a thing if I
believed it would better predict the
outcome of my actions cool that's all
I'm looking for and so when something
comes along like um when we went through
what was a very disorienting moment for
me where it was like men and women are
the same this is all a cultural
construct I was like what the [ __ ] like
that has no predict validity in my life
whatsoever and so from looking at
toddlers to looking at adults when you
assume that the boys and girls are going
to act the same there's literally no
predictability it's super [ __ ]
bizarre everything will be very
confusing to you the second you go men
and women are different and they're
different in these ways then it was like
oh my God this is all so predictable uh
so yeah it it's you're looking for
predictive validity and hopefully you're
using your value system to move you
towards building a world that would be
better not just for you but others I
love it all right the next three
questions are kind of the same question
ask in different ways so there this is
from Joshua ishma just lump them
together I just want to shout out their
names Josh ishmail 9312 Paula Gutierrez
and Raina Martinez 13 thank you
guys basically how do you invest in the
stock market when you don't have enough
to pay bills how can I own equities if I
make $19 an hour in California Drew and
Tom both agree the game is rigged but
I'm too broke to get into it so if
somebody's feeling this way that they
want to get into it but they're
struggling to make ends meet they feel
like they don't have enough to get ahead
they don't feel like they have enough to
invest in the stock market what's your
advice to them all right there there are
two levers before us and that is it
don't spend any time lamenting this this
is how the world is you either need to
reduce your expenses or make more money
period full stop end of story I want to
break people of this belief that a
minimum wage job is meant to set you up
for Life get more [ __ ] skills get out
from under that minimum wage job if you
are not capable of getting out from
under that minimum wage job then you
have to find a way to reduce reduce
reduce your expenses there is no other
answer that's the bad news the only shot
you've got is AI drives the cost of
energy so low that everything becomes
cheap as and we're post capitalist and
you don't have to worry about it in
which case you're pro-innovation you're
not pro government you need Innovation
to get to that point let's be very clear
about that okay now assuming that you
can reduce costs or make more money then
we're going to siphon some of that even
if it's $19 we're going to siphon some
of that off and start slowly investing
in whatever you think is safest what
would I do and people should be very
careful this is not Financial advice but
this is what I would do right now the
sort of the lowest risk highest
volatility there is still risk I want to
be very clear you can lose everything
but the lowest risk highest
volatility thing is
Bitcoin okay it's not a pro Bitcoin
pitch that is a pro Bitcoin pitch it's
what I would do just to be clear but
look man I I want to be very clear
investing is gambling investing is
gambling there are no shets anyway it uh
because it's now been been around for
roughly 15 years because over the course
of that 15 years it's gone up by
60% annual rate of return year after
year after year any one moment you could
look at it could be a [ __ ] disaster
for a couple of years but when you
stretch it out to the 15-year time
Horizon it averages out to
60% average rate of return annual rate
of return excuse me so uh that is
unbelievable but this is not a pitch for
that this is a pitch for creating a
differential between how much you make
and how much you need to live so if I'm
making $19 an hour I'm racing to build
my skill set up as fast as humanly
possible because I don't want to be
making $19 an hour forever and again if
you can make somebody else money or you
can solve a problem for somebody you're
going to get paid so focus on skill
acquisition like crazy and if you have
to live with a bunch of other people
then do it I used to have roommates for
a lot of years I used to manage
apartment complexes for a lot of years
nightmarish but it kept my rent really
low so there are all kinds of ways if
you're willing to do a ton of research
ask around there are ways that you can
like and of course very few people are
ever going to manage apartment complexes
so don't take that as like go do that
I'm just saying there are many things
like that that you can do uh so find
ways to reduce your expenses move back
in with your parents get a ton of
Roommates get a job that's near where
you live so that you don't need a car
you don't need insurance you can walk to
work I mean just if this were really the
situation that I was in I would be
thinking of every everything I could do
to make sure that my lifestyle was a $12
an hour lifestyle and I was making $19
an hour I'm going to take let's say $2
to play and then the rest of it I'm
going to be socking away in something
that I think is going to return I'm a
big believer as much fun there's a
[ __ ] meme about me sitting on
multiple chairs listen everybody that
thinks it's [ __ ] stupid to sit on
multiple chairs you do you baby because
I'm telling you over a long enough time
period you want to make sure that you
hedge your [ __ ] bets unless you
believe you somehow are uniquely capable
of seeing the future whoa that is just a
crazy strategy I don't have that risk
appetite and I have an appetite for risk
now look if people bet on one thing and
that one thing pays off yeah then they
make gargantuan wins I'm happy for them
I don't get mad I don't do shot in FLA I
want to see them win go get your bag
baby but I'm not going to [ __ ] do
that and people can laugh at me all they
[ __ ] want I have a strategy based on
my beliefs and my value system and I'm
going to stick with it so I highly
encourage people to take a similar all-
weather strategy as Ray Delo would call
it uh and that's what I would do Angela
Marshall 4179 said I created a reading
program for pre-readers about 20 years
ago it's 100% done and ready to go but I
got scared and I just stopped it's been
in my attic for 20 years as a
61-year-old limping woman with no money
what is my next step in this day and age
this question breaks my heart okay but
they're giving me a chance so I want to
reach inside their soul and see if I can
invigorate
them the thing that kills dreams is fear
and boredom you are going to fail but
failing does not make you a failure
failure is the most information Rich
data stream on planet Earth the only
mistake that you can make in life is
standing still if she had put that out
into the market and it had failed fine
she's going to learn so I put my video
game out into the market and the first
round was trash and everybody told me it
trash I was cool in what way is it trash
awesome I'm going to make it better put
it out again still trash awesome put it
out again oo this is starting to get fun
but it's still too small I can only play
for a couple of hours then I start
getting bored okay cool like all this
feedback is great I have long believed
drew that my real superpower is I can be
laughed at longer than the next
person and I understand that this is a
game of skill acquisition I just have to
get better and better and better and
better and on a long enough timeline I
can get a 100 times better at anything
and when you start thinking about being
hundred times better at making money a
100 times better at software development
whatever it is that you're trying to do
you could get a hundred times better at
it now it's like pour yourself into
getting good at that thing iterate
quickly be absolutely Fearless put it
into the market see what happens come up
with the next thing when that one fails
you are going to fail a lot a lot a lot
this is why that Michael Jordan
commercial from so many years ago was so
brilliant he goes through all of the
things that he [ __ ] up I've missed
this many game-winning shots I've missed
this many shots from the free throw line
ah I've lost this many games and then he
was like and that's why I win because
you're willing to take the shot you're
willing to push yourself to put yourself
out there to get better and that is the
only path forward so success is a game
of attrition what I mean by that is a
big part of the reason that I've won in
my life is just most people that are
smarter than me more talented than me
they're more emotionally fragile than me
and so they quit they don't like the way
feels they've built their self-esteem
around being better faster stronger
smarter now if instead you build your
self-esteem around learning around being
willing to stare nakedly at your
inadequacies in fact let me share an
embarrassing stat uh in the interview
that I did with sailor um I asked is it
Riot games because he kept mentioning
Riot Riot Riot this that and the other
has uh Bitcoin on the balance sheet and
I was like Riot games is that what
you're talking about and uh there was
Collective laughter in the Bitcoin
community and somebody put in the
comments dude that's so embarrassing you
should go delete that moment I was like
why the [ __ ] would I delete that I
didn't know the answer so I asked the
question now if you're a [ __ ] [ __ ]
and you want to say stay Stupid by all
means be so afraid of embarrassing
yourself that you don't ask a question
if you want to grow powerful ask the
question let people laugh at you and now
you have the answer and remember skills
have utility so when I get that piece of
information I can now do something maybe
not that that exact one but when you
stack this stuff up you can outo things
that other people can't do that's how
you end up outperforming but if you're
afraid to do it then you're never going
to make progress now first of all 61 is
young baby it's young she's got a lot of
good years so I'm really hopeful that
one she ditches the identity of limping
if I've got to tell myself I shattered
my
femur I walk with
swagger dude reframe it man I get it's a
lie I get it's total [ __ ] that
letting that you limp be a part of your
identity you're a woman that was able to
code this thing or build this thing
whatever it was and that could help
people just tell yourself I'm the type
of person that's willing to learn I've
got the guts to put this out there get
feedback make it better iterate and now
your identity is that of the learner
it's antifragile Yeah the more people
attack you the stronger you get when you
have the fear of like I need people's
validation now you're stuck because
people will be able to shut you down
just by laughing at you they'll be able
to shut you down by pointing out that
you don't know something it's an awesome
quote awesome quote as the island of my
knowledge grows so grows the shore of my
ignorance meaning the more you learn the
more you realize oh my God there's so
much to learn I'm never going to learn
all this stuff so I know I'm never going
to know everything obviously so again
I'm trying to stack skills that have
utility that will move me towards my
goal but you have to know what your goal
is you've got to Define it say I'm going
to get there by this date and then I'm
just going to run a bunch of experiments
to get there I am not going to hide in
the closet I'm not going to worry about
people that make fun of me I'm not going
to worry about embarrassing myself in
public which I am undoubtedly going to
do I'm just G to [ __ ] learn and
failure is the most information-rich
data stream on planet Earth meaning
failure is the fastest way to
learn I love it love it and joen joen
7309 said I would love to know more
about how you use the dot system with
your employees how you influence
adaption by your team and what are some
issues you had when you implemented the
system all right so dots is a a feedback
system created by Ray doio Ray doio is
the largest hedge fund manager of all
time uh so nobody's been more successful
betting on the market than Ray doio
absolutely [ __ ] insane okay so he
creates a saying where he knows I'm
blind to something so Rey is a classic
example of somebody who thought he was
right about something went all in and
lost everything so Tom does not play
that game uh Rey realizes I don't know
everything and as much as I do know I'm
gonna get blindsided by something so I
want to surround myself with very smart
people and put them in a cultural
situation where they are compelled to
tell me what they think so if I'm doing
something stupid or they think that I'm
blind to something they are culturally
compelled meaning if you want to stay in
this company culture you are going to
say what you think is true even if
you're worried that that's going to
upset me or hurt my feelings or make me
mad or put you at risk of getting fired
if you believe it to be true you are
going to say it and so we implemented
that system here I would say look it is
not perfect it is very hard to get
people to say hard things I also tend to
attract people that have an easy time
hearing hard things but have a hard time
saying hard things uh so we are
constantly I'm constantly reminding all
of us hey give that critical feedback
the reason that I do it is because I
know I'm blind to things and I need
smart people to tell me what the things
are that I'm blind to and that just
makes me better gives me more skills
allows me to do more in the real world
so that's why we do it that's what the
system is it's a it's it is a system of
giving dots on a whole host of traits
that somebody might have uh could be
work ethic could be demonstrated Mastery
things like that you give them a rating
from one to 10 one being your absolute
garbage 10 being oh my God this is
unbelievable and now none of us take any
one dot seriously but we all look for
patterns and so it helps us get a sense
of what we're actually good at what
we're not good at uh and so that's
really really use
when you can get people to do it I love
it uh last thing we have a special
comment this has happened since we first
started Tom show the Tom bill you show
officially um when we were celebrating
Trump's Victory there was a lot of
comments talking about the comparisons
between Trump Hitler fascism
authoritarianism totalitarianism so we
asked a friend of ours to kind of jump
on I want you to kind of queue up this
next segment that we're going to yeah so
listen you guys when I said that I
thought it was absolutely r ridiculous
that people were comparing Trump to
Hitler people were like ah but you can't
compare Hitler at the end when he's
doing the concentration camps and the
Holocaust you can't compare that to
Trump now you Trump is on a slippery
slope to becoming that so you've got to
compare early Hitler to current Trump so
we brought on what if Al his and another
historian that he knows named Merck to
answer the question is early Hitler like
current Trump and I'll let them take it
away and answer it here it is enjoy
remember you guys asked I want to I want
to go back and and really take a second
to define something very clearly what
does it mean to be Hitler
like what it means to be Hitler like I
would say is to have a vision to
structure Society in a way that
benefits the the core of some
ethnonationalist vision
right and I think there are a bunch of
traits that we sort of add on uh to that
to to you know make it look more like
Hitler in particular but I think when
people right there's the peripheral end
of somebody who's loud and obnoxious and
racist right and I think that's mostly
what people see right and if that's if
that's the only Vector through which
you're measuring that this then sure
maybe Trump is loud and obnoxious and
racist right but if you dig a Little
Deeper that doesn't line up anymore
right Trump is not envisioning a society
where he concentrates power in his hands
and develops an ethnonationalist State
he's not taking any steps in that
direction project 2025 if you look at it
is really about decentralizing the
government as possible somebody who's
trying to become a dictator is not
trying to decentralize power right that
just wouldn't be the
case Okay so we've got loud obnoxious
racist and uh this is Hitler and
centralizing power uh rard would you add
anything to that list of what it means
to be Hitler like I'm going to just
rephrase what merik said where people
don't use the word fascist correctly and
this is that really gets under my skin
because there was this big psychological
survey called the authoritarian
personality about 1947 and this book has
had incredible historic influence
because the thesis of the book is that
socially conservative value
and traditional family structures are
the cause of
fascism this is a huge origin of how our
modern society conceptualize politics
and culture in a way that's just
completely incorrect because you have
communist societies that are the most
bloody authoritarians totalitarians ever
there's loads of leftist
totalitarianism and then you have lots
of socially conservative uh free
Societies in fact you do need a certain
degree of social conservatism in order
to maintain a free society and when
people think about Trump they're
thinking this guy is a racist and being
a racist Makes You Like A Nazi what the
people fail to realize is travel the
world almost every country in the world
is racist by their definition you go to
Africa go to China go to Poland go to
mexic or Cuba and you'll see stuff that
if you're a leftist you'll see as
horrifying racism on a completely casual
basis and Trump is very very unraced by
the standards of 99% of
humanity I mean there's some statements
you've made that can be kind of constr
con uh kind of portrayed as it but if
you go to like some non-western country
if you go to Mexico if you go to if you
go to Turkey even I don't know like
Hungary people are going to that that
sounds completely innocuous our racism
sensors are so finely tuned that we're
just completely hysterical and what I
would say separates Hitler from Trump is
Hitler as mer said has this very
coherent sense of this is the German
race and everything is structured around
it where your work your religion your
social life how your children are raised
is all controlled by the totalitarian
state which serves the German race and
it's this massive vision of the
colonization of all Eastern Europe in
the genocide of that area for the German
Laban realm Trump has none of that stuff
Trump is not a totalitarian who has this
vast ideological scheme if Trump was
truly
Hitler he would have a map in the White
House of America conquering all of North
America and the settlement of Central
America with American settlers that's
what Nazism stands for right now what do
you say though when he's now started
talking about uh Mexico and Canada
becoming the 51st and 52nd States that's
just a joke that's never going to happen
everyone's everyone who's not insane
perceives that as a joke right well and
the thing is is of course these people
want to take it seriously because it it
helps their argument right but yeah I
mean there's no way you can see that as
anything other than a joke realistically
right those it would not be practical
nobody would support that kind of a move
and Trump is a really fast America one
thing I want to make sure that we don't
do is um we don't want to say he'll be
stopped we at at the end we'll get to
even if we think that he is a fascist
and he's authoritarian and everybody's
right to be worried will American
democracy hold I think that's a very
fair argument to keep in your back
pocket but first I just want to go
through some of the things that we've
already put on the table so uh to be
hitler-like is to be loud obnoxious
racist centralizing in uh wanting to
centralize governmental power
expansionist by Nature um that
expansionist by Nature was definitely on
my list in terms of what was Hitler uh I
for better or worse I wrote a screenplay
about uh cult leaders and so I
researched Hitler and I read minec comp
so I've seen firsthand it's absolute
Insanity for people that haven't readd
it uh and he was very hellbent on
expansionism you know this is all coming
after World War I the Treaty of
Versailles was so brutal to Japan or to
Japan was so brutal to uh Germany that
he was like we're not paying these
people back I'm going to rise you all
back up we're going to you know um get
our economy running again and basically
understood that he had to eat up a bunch
of Europe and going into Russia uh to
create for him what was uh basically the
the west of the United States where you
could just expand expand expand and
people could find their fortunes and
have property and build homes he was
like that's going to be Russia so we're
going to be able to go into Russia and
just take it all over and and people
will be able to push into the vast
Untamed territory there so uh to your
point it's a very clear Vision it's very
expansion in its uh orientation but I
would say if you're not saying the use
of force to get what you want you're not
getting close to Hitler first he comes
out of the military uh is uh wounded in
World War I is certainly no stranger to
violence he has the brown shirts like
this is somebody who is going to get
what he wants and I can't remember
hopefully you guys will remember but it
was uh Hitler that
burn down the building I don't know if
it was Parliament but they they go in
they burn it down they say that the Jews
were the ones that did it and if I'm not
mistaken that's what leads to Crystal
knocked which is the whole night where
they go and smash everything that the
Jews own but using it as this excuse
which is another thing that I would say
uh is that the the Just Fish control
manipulation of the media which I will
say is one thing you guys are going to
have to combat because Trump may not
have control of the mainstream media but
he's done a phenomenal job of using
alternative media so has he been
truthful I think you guys are going to
have your hands full uh with that one
but I think that's also uh an extremely
important thing to be Hitler like uh
creating a common enemy this is another
thing that I see Trump doing that I
think is very hitler-like when you read
mine comp and he's like you know we need
to give people uh an enemy it gives
people something to Rally around maybe
I'll make it the jeice I mean it was
like just somebody going through this
like well we're going to need to do this
they've always made a good enemy
historically I'm probably going to use
them like it's absolutely bananas the
cold and calculating way that he laid it
out
uh cries of election fraud so trying to
use the democratic system against itself
to abolish democracy is another thing
that I would say makes you Hitler like
uh Hitler wanted dictatorial power so we
wanted to centralize you've already
covered that um so those would be the
things that I would put on the table as
making you Hitler like do you guys think
I've missed anything in addition to what
you guys have already said I think that
about covers it uh the way I'm going to
triangulate this is I'm going to throw
in a third variable let's pick a random
crappy third world dictator let's look
at maab the dictator of Zimbabwe who
made their currency so worthless it was
valued in the trillions and when I look
at maab what I fundamentally see is
someone who you would never compare to
Hitler uh just because Hitler was so
much more vastly effective when you look
at again I can't overate the
totalitarianism in Nazi Germany the
state was literally everything and in
maave it was a bunch of thugs with
AK-47s who barely held on to power and
just predated from the population and so
a lot of these things that I'm hearing
are Hitler likee I'll compare either to
some third world dictator or to the
Democratic party today how many of the
things you described have been things
the Democrats have been doing where
interfering in the media the Democrats
are legitimate or the the left is
legitimately totalitarian today which is
something that the difference between
totalitarianism and
authoritarianism is that
authoritarianism is you're in charge and
you give out orders to people but you
don't really care totalitarianism is you
control every single element of
someone's life between school between
romantic relationships between work
between how the streets are maintained
and total authoritarianism is super
common over history totalitarianism is
pretty rare over history where wokeness
is legitimately
totalitarian in a way that Nazism is
that Trump clearly is not and I see this
incredibly strong
totalitarian totalitarian desire on the
left which is the biggest disconnect I
see between Trump and between Hitler
where the the left does want to dominate
every single element of someone's life
like what I just said and when I look at
Trump there is no cohesive cultural
force that is maga maga is not uh it's
not a ideology Maga is like a bunch of
strong
together mer am themes but there's no
Maga ideology there is no Maga thought
there is no uh
magga when you look at the left leftism
is a religion that consumes every single
aspect of your life and there's no
parallel to that for Maga there aren't
Maga colleges in the same way there's
Progressive religious colleges to kind
of piggyback off that idea I also think
that people run the risk of
of attributing things to Hitler that are
true of a lot of dictators right where
like the the idea of having a common
enemy that's not like something Hitler
invented he thought it was a really good
idea and he spent a lot of you know he
spent a lot of time talking about that
but like you can go to any point in
history and find a leader who's like
okay let me rally the people behind this
I mean the pope did that in the Crusades
right this isn't like a uniquely
hitlerian trait you know so I I don't
think it's fair to attribute that
specifically as well Trump is like
Hitler because he finds a common enemy
like yeah anybody who's trying to to
motivate a group of people will find a
common enemy that that's that's a really
easy psychological tactic to try to use
for a group right I I wouldn't you know
people see that and they're like oh well
it's Hitler and it's like it's not
really Hitler people did that way before
Hitler was on the scene right and again
right I I'm totally in agreement about
the totalitarianism right the left if
you look at the Democratic party and the
fascist party in Italy they have a lot
of the same ideas in terms of s you know
supplanting corporate interests to
government interests and you pretending
to care about the workers but really
just sort of fitting them into this
scheme on our behalf and going through
and breaking through every single
institution in society to make sure it
conforms with our worldview because our
worldview is morally correct right
Trump's not doing that and he's not
promoting a worldview that looks like
that sure certainly he's authoritarian
in some sense right but he's not
totalitarian he doesn't cross that
threshold okay and so when you guys say
that he is authoritarian you're saying
uh this is a strong man who uses very
aggressive language uh he wants to be
the best he wants to win against the
rest of the world he's going to tell uh
China don't tread on me he's going to
tell North Korea uh will [ __ ] bomb
you into the Stone Age or what he didn't
say that but he said some crazy [ __ ] uh
so is that what you mean when you say
authoritarian
yeah he's he's he'll tell you right he's
a fighter he likes to throw his weight
around and he's
he's he likes attention right so he does
this inflammatory rhetoric on purpose to
draw attention to him um certainly I
think that he's also authoritarian that
he likes to exert Authority right he
likes to get things done right he's a
doer um and I'm sure that you know he
likes the idea of being dictator on a
day you know he doesn't I don't think if
you said hey let's make you king of
America Amer he'd be like oh that's a
great idea right I think he'd kind of be
like what are you talking about but I'm
sure he has days in office and I'm sure
every president has days in office where
they're trying to push some policy
through and they're like man I wish it
didn't have to negotiate with Congress
right like that's I I think that's a
pretty clear frustration that anybody in
power has right if I have an agenda that
I think is going to help people well of
course I don't want to have to go
through all these legal processes to
make it happen I just want to make it
happen right and I'm sure that he he
definitely has a temperament that that
feeds into that but he doesn't have this
plan or desire to break down Society to
you know fit his image right it's it
might be a a fleeting desire that hits
but it's not a plan and it's not
something he's actively working towards
in office all right that feels like a
very succinct summation of certainly
Merck's take on this rer does that idea
sum up exactly where you're coming from
as well or do you think there's
something more cuz I what I hear from is
he basically checks let's call it eight
of the 10 boxes but the ninth and 10th
box are the only boxes that really
matter for Merck's argument you'd get
two out of 10 not
eight well we'll see I'm gonna go
through them here and I I think that I
think I can get Merck to sign off on
most of these that Trump is these but
maybe to a lesser degree but the ones
that really matter in fact let me just
go through them so here Merck this is
what I heard you say so uh going back to
our list we've got to be Hitler like is
to be loud obnoxious racist to have a
centralizing impulse to be
expansionist um to and then I added and
I think you guys agree with these uh to
use
force uh and manipulate the media
and uh using the democratic system
against itself so you said that he is
loud obnoxious I think you'll even say
racist uh obviously Rudyard you want to
temper that and say yeah but it's by
International standards it's not super
racist nobody uh is going to sound the
alarm too hard they certainly shouldn't
uh you do not think that he wants to
centralize government that he does not
have that impulse uh that he is not
expansionist uh but in terms of using
the media I think we'll all agree that
he certainly does that he has said he
wants to be dictator uh for a day for a
day for a day uh and but but at the same
time Merrick you said that you would be
surprised if he didn't at times want to
be dictator and the only thing that's
going to break that down is he doesn't
have this
overarching uh narrative that says this
is exactly the world that I want to
create and because he lacks that he's
never going to actually go down the path
of being a dictator and while that may
not be exactly eight of 10 that's got to
be six or seven uh am I misunder
standing your take what you said is just
the argument equivalent of saying you've
been raped for being kissed oh man can I
not wait to hear how people respond to
this uh rard are you saying that Trump
is uh kissing us unsolicited it's not
rape but he is kissing us unsolicited is
is that a reasonable way to characterize
your view of him without connecting to
Hitler you make him sound hot
I mean you make us like a romance
character
um I don't know what that statement
means and also like what do you mean
you're the one that said it you said so
when I said that there were seven or
eight things I will cut you off here I
understand okay so the point I was
trying to convey is that getting kissed
on the cheek isn't that bad it happens
in loads of countries around the world
um you're not going to die if it happens
to you once or twice in your life you'll
be fine and what I'd say furthermore is
let's compare the people who say this to
the thing it is being said to because
one of the points I'd like to convey is
that we are assessing the global
condition through a 1% of the global
population who are deranged
schizophrenic Kens who are completely
removed from the other 99% where you
look over human history and there's a
certain expectation about things you're
allowed to say there's a certain
expectation about social values there's
a certain expectation about just how the
world works and one of those
expectations is that you
prioritize the your nation and the
dominant ethnic group of your nation
just out of practicality sake you have
to take care of the majority population
the deranged Kens say that being against
immigration is racist and even
suggesting stuff about like um certain
Nations obviously being at a higher
level of development than others is also
racist that's not a moral code the rest
of us agreed to saying that making
because most of them complain about
Trump they complain about his rhetoric
no one else in history would care you
are just schizophrenic and deranged and
the things they say about Hitler are
things if you took 99% of leaders in
history and we are so obsessed with
studying people in recent western
history who are
so domesticated like our entire Media
frame in the western world is so
ridiculously domesticated and it's
removing from the harshness and just the
savagery most people experience in life
where if you're a peasant you're not
going to care about this sort of thing
it's such a differentiation in scale uh
and I didn't agree to those as the
Hitler terms either where uh it's such a
differentiation of scale that it's
ridiculous I beg you to go south South
of the Border into Latin America every
single Latin American politician even
the most ethical and the most democratic
will fit into the things you just said
and none of them are Hitler there's
never been a Latin American Hitler so
you get to have like um I'd like to
stress the authoritarian totalitarian
distinction because it's a very
important distinction where uh 95% of
leaders in human history are
authoritarian where you could say FDR is
authoritarian you could say can you one
more time Define authoritarian I got
totalitar
authoritarian is that um you exert power
over others directly so uh an example of
this is that in medieval Europe people
would have feudal Lords and the feudal
Lord was basically your landlord who you
would pay tax rents to your landlord
wasn't involved in your life in almost
any way except for taking some tithes he
was completely not involved in your
family life your church life that stuff
so having a government is in some ways
always somewhat authoritarian and having
a government that's not Democratic is
always definitionally authoritarian so
you have States in human history that
are authoritarian but are generally nice
places to live like I've been in Egypt
or Thailand or loads of countries where
in some ways they're Freer than America
some ways but at the same time it's a
military dictatorship and totalitarian
societies are very historically rare
it's the Nazis the
Soviets and like a handful of ancient
Chinese places and so it's very rare to
get an actually totalitarian society and
the effect on daily life in a
totalitarian Society is vastly different
from anything else because totalitarian
societies are the only Societies in
history where the government destroys
every social institution of the society
and then supplants it into the ruling
ideology
the irony though is the modern left is
actually authorit they they are actually
totalitarian you look at the Modern woke
world and it's funny funnily enough that
Britain is a totalitarian Democratic
Society it's a democracy but the
totalitarian ruling government does not
allow any institutions that go against
its agenda
and you need a lot to make the jump to a
totalitarian Society because
authoritarian societies o very rarely
commit large genocides because they just
don't have the political will to do so
and most totalitarian societies do
commit genocides and so unless you're
dealing with a totalitarian Society
you're probably not you're just not
going to get hitler-like traits and
Hitler manifests literally zero of the
traits of a totalitarian
leader okay uh the obvious question that
begs is uh over the last and still
currently while we're recording this we
have a uh I would say aggressively left
leaning government but there are no
genocides in
sight so I said most genocide most
totalitarian governments have genocides
I didn't say they definitionally go
together you can have a totalitarian
Society without a genocide um do you
think that we're at risk just to
calibrate my sense of how concerned you
are about the left in America we're not
going to have a
genocide I don't think any side's going
to do a gen icide in America um
because I just don't see why they would
so you can remove the genocide comment I
I don't see that as a thing uh but
secondarily um what I would say here is
let's remove Hitler from the table let's
compare Trump to some boring Latin
American
dictator I think that would be of course
I do not support said comparison I think
that would be a fairer comparison and
every sing trait you just said Trump
could it be tra the the dictator of
Argentina or Colombia or whatever and my
question from that is okay most humans
have lived in crappy dictatorships over
history there's no genocide there's no
control of the press or there is control
of the press but it's you can do a lot
in most dictatorships over history the
the government doesn't really interfere
in the regime there are definitely
dictatorships and of course I love
democracy and Love Freedom and all these
things of course there are
dictatorships that have more personal
freedoms than totalitarian Democratic
societies today I would much rather live
in Vietnam today than live in Britain I
would rather live in uh turkey than live
in Germany why is that oh because uh so
there's a solid enough chance Britain or
Germany literally send me to jail for My
Views and there and T turkey and
Thailand would never do that it's it's
also the cost of living is prohibitively
high in those countries and I'd live a
much better life but the thing about a
lot of second because I've lived in six
countries and the thing about a lot of
second and third world countries is that
you in your personal life you actually
have significantly more freedom than a
first world country you can drink in
public you can say ethnic slurs no one
will ever give you crap for a word you
say the cops are a lot less difficult on
you your HOA will never give you crap
for anything on your daily functional
life you often have significantly more
freedom outside the first world than
inside it now what is it about the
structure of those societies because
obviously those are all anecdotal so
what is the structure the structural
nature of those societies that leads to
more freedom oh it's the structure
nature of our society it's that we're
controlled by deranged Kens where just
the deranged Ken ruling class has
destroyed any degree of social
flexibility in the West in Mexico they
have a wonderful street life you could
never have that here because Karens
would call the cops and uh the deranged
kinism is destroyed most of the west
where I'm a Canadian Citizen and Canada
has gone completely crazy same thing
with a lot of Western Europe According
to some stats Britain sends more people
to prison for political crimes every
year than Russia does I don't trust
those stats but at the same time the
fact that they could exist at all is
insane
right yeah I I will give you that and I
want to I want to kind of piggyback off
a point rard made as well about like
okay so Trump's a more apt comparison to
say a a Latin American dictator right
but let's also right let's let's say you
have 10 things on your list there sure
maybe six or seven of them line up
between Trump and Hitler right but let's
even take somebody that we know right
let's take Alexander the Great how much
of that also lines up for Alexander the
Great how much of that would also line
up for like Winston Church right the
rhetoric Winston Churchill uses is
significantly more racist than anything
Trump has ever said right but nobody
sees him as a threat to democracy
because the time passed and he didn't
threatened democracy but certainly there
was a lot of people in England who had
concerns about Winston Churchill and his
egotistical nature and him being in
charge of Britain right and of course he
got them through World War II so he's a
hero now but at the time there was a lot
of grumblings about do we really want
this guy the guy who failed in galipoli
to to come over here and lead the
country right so sure yeah maybe six or
seven up between uh Hitler and Trump but
I think you can also line up six or
seven or seven or eight between Trump
and Alexander the Great or Trump and
Caesar or Trump and you know Churchill
right so the the idea that these certain
traits are you know hitlerian is kind of
ridiculous when you look at other people
right and say well a lot of these o
right am I going to call Winston
Churchill hitlerian because he thought
that you know Indians were less
civilized than the English well well no
right like that that seems a little
ridiculous right I wouldn't call
Alexander the Great hitlerian because he
saw the Iranians as you know which he
conquered as you know less uh less
civilized than the macedonians right and
again Trump's rhetoric compared to these
people is League not even in the same
league right like he's way less racist
than these people and so yeah sure again
maybe six or seven of them check out but
I think you can check off six or seven
boxes for a good chunk of world leaders
at any point all right there's a couple
things I want to touch on here this is
getting so fascinating it is going to be
very interesting to see people's
response to this okay so uh one the
there is a massive movement to Dethrone
Hitler in the historical context to say
he really was evil he was Sinister and
the fact that all of these things apply
to him is exactly why he's trash and we
should not venerate him okay I certainly
am not in that camp I'm Blown Away by
what uh Churchill was able to do during
World War II character flaws in all
obvious character flaws
um taking someone like Alexander the
Great I think there's a very easy case
to be made that he was a complete and
utter
sociopath uh that was just hellbent on
conquering and destroying and so I would
not use him as my justification uh for
Trump let's compare the Biden
Administration to these hitlerian traits
to Trump because Trump has the rhetoric
and the Democrats are all with always uh
very passive on their rhetoric they're
always very guarded with their words uh
but then you'll hear leftist Jos say
completely racist stuff you'll oh yeah
Biden said complete Biden has said stuff
that's basically racist he is uh there
the left has done vastly more to control
the media and to
manipulate um manipulate that with uh
really easy examples being the collusion
with Facebook or Twitter with the FBI
die
and what I see with the Hitler
appointing is the left in its attempt to
be a mirror image of the Nazis and then
the not the left in their attempt to
completely reject the Nazis in many ways
to give a mirror image of them in ways
where they are closer to each other than
most Societies in human history the left
and the Nazis are both incredibly
totalitarian they both support control
of the media they both support the
establishment of a racial cast system
they support collusion between the state
and the private Enterprise creating caps
on prices and uh probably wages in the
future they uh a Nash a uh public sector
focused economic system redistributing
income based off race you could go
through all of these and the great irony
is that in their attempt to be the
opposite of the Nazis the left became
their mere image because they only
stared at the Nazis when they built
their moral
code that makes a lot of sense uh so the
way that you just broke that down
Rudyard I will assume is you had earlier
said I don't necessarily agree with what
I had outlined as being the hitler-like
characteristics so I assume what you
just went through comparing the left to
Nazism uh are the traits that you're
saying would count is that
accurate yeah I agree with that okay so
um certainly as it manifested as policy
which is I would say the side of things
that you just went through and those are
extremely meaningful things to get into
um my take on this and and uh we'll see
if we can tie this up with a bow here is
that I think merik you are correct that
there are elements of trump that do line
up with um what we'll call Hitler likee
tendencies in in the more grounded uh
being
let's see the exact words here again
being loud
obnoxious um the racist side I don't
know that one I'm I'm less convinced by
as evidenced by the reaction from uh
Hispanics uh finally a swing in
blackmail voters so I'm I'm less in
that's well that's my point right that's
mine and rudyard's point right is like
we're not really sold on the whole
racist thing because yeah sure in the
context of our our current society and
the way leftist frame rate he's a racist
but if you compare him to all societies
across the world at any given point he
he scores significantly less racist than
any of these people right I think Trump
if anything has a sort of go ahead yeah
th this to me is like um morals morals
have to be grounded on something so to
me being racist needs a grounding and I
would say if you believe uh that one's
worth is tied to their race you are
racist so Trump either is or is not
racist in my book um I suppose you could
be more hatefully racist you could be
more aggressively racist um but anyway
I'm not a trump scholar but I certainly
have not seen like my alarm Bells do not
go off around Trump based on his take on
Race uh my my alarm bells on Trump go
off with the um they're poisoning the
blood of the country uh pitting people
against immigrants like there are things
that he does that I think are worthy of
concern and to me the only question is
is this a slippery slope or is this just
somebody that I disagree with their
stance or their approach on certain
things so uh I think chant getting
excited when people chant lock her up
regarding Hillary bad move uh not
pursuing her when you're in office good
move if he is with his C with his
cabinet nominations if he is trying to
put a cabinet of people that will go in
after his political enemies bad [ __ ]
move and I will be really bothered by
that uh if on the other hand he is
simply trying to make things transparent
streamline government uh reduce the
amount that we are spending foolishly
and my cost for that is I have somebody
who is very uh uncareful with his speech
who thinks out loud sort of through
these ridiculous ideas to me the perfect
example of what he's doing is he talked
about like could we inject bleach into
people I watched that live and live I
wasn't like oh my God this is insane I
was like this is like a writer would run
through ideas for a story where you're
like hey look no bad ideas like let's
just throw this out and see like what it
triggers and maybe it takes you in a
better path and writers will say all the
time bad idea dirty pitch whatever just
so that they can throw the idea out so
I'm watching it going yeah like I do
that in business all the time like no BS
what would it take you throw out crazy
ideas you sort of you go through the
wheat for the
chef and that is it comes with a price
because it's easy to make him look crazy
and I think that he does bluff and I
think that he is aggressive and I think
that he does uh bully and I think all of
those things are a mixed bag and it's
the same way I feel whenever I read
about Churchill this is a mixed [ __ ]
bag like this guy Churchill almost
certainly really was racist so that is
like a whole thing but as the only guy
that would actually stand up against
Hitler you have to say godamn those are
testicles of Steel like this kid
literally said this is chge Hill said I
want to be known for my physical courage
I want that to Define my character and
when he [ __ ] up in galipoli he says
put me on the front lines of World War I
on the front lines in the [ __ ]
trenches man and so uh is he a wildly
flawed character yes but would he make
the other soldiers nervous because he
was so unafraid of being killed yes and
is that the kind of person that says I
[ __ ] up put me on the front lines and
whatever happens happens and I'm going
to lead with courage and then that
person says and I think I know how to
run the government and then that person
is the only one that stands up it's like
yeah all of these people are mixed bags
man so now I'm just trying to get to
Dear people on the left who I love and
want to meet you in the middle I just
want to understand do you should you
actually be concerned that Trump he is
flawed but should you be concerned that
he is on a slippery slope to actually
being a scorpion and stinging people and
doing the kinds of things that Hitler
actually did and I that's where I'm like
I even after this discussion come back
to the three four five whatever the
number of things is that he does not
line up with those ones matter a lot and
so I think redard one of the most
important important things that you've
said today is that the difference
between authoritarian so I'll just say
Trump's a bully okay and as he has said
I'm your bully but he's a bully and
that's going to rub some people the
wrong way he doesn't have a totalitarian
impulse that I have seen so when I look
at that when I look at him when I look
at all the things that people say he has
said and go watch them for myself I walk
away with somebody who he's going to
play the bully he's going to tell you to
back the [ __ ] off or he's going to bomb
you into the previous Century uh but
then he governs as a moderate now I look
at everybody with a suspicious eye so I
will judge him by his actions when he
comes into the White House again uh but
I don't think he has a desire for total
control over people's lives I think he
wants to fix the economy I think he
wants to see people thrive and make
money uh and yeah so in the final
analysis for me
yeah there there are things that you can
say this man does that rhyme with Hitler
but on the important ones not so much
and man if people have actually read
about Hitler like for real for real
dude it it's it's insane and you don't
see from my perspective any of that in
Trump there's two points I
want there's two points I want to
interject here the first is why do
anglos treat being a buz kill is a moral
virtue where the more you look at like
Latin American politics the more you
realize Trump's rhetoric is so tame look
at the stuff Sylvio burone says look at
the stuff they say in like Brazilian
politics or Mexican politics it's
hilarious or in French Politics the
constant Mistresses and the constant sex
scandals anglos are anglos get so worked
up about like dialogue and stuff and
then in Latin America or mid the middle
least they'll say the sunnis are demons
publicly on TV um so I just throw
dialogue out because uh I know how
ridiculous the rest of the world gets
and then secondly um there's a really
really huge difference between right now
and 1920s Germany and that's something
that going into this I wanted to really
bring up because I think it's one of the
most important variables that being that
Germany's deep state was conservative
and they were looking for someone like
Hitler to take power so in our current
Society the elite is all leftists you
see it between the media
Academia a lot of major corporations
parts of the military the Catholic
church every single institution is
dominated by the left and often
politically very radical ones while in
Germany due to their unified empire that
they got through a series of bloody wars
their leadership were all very
conservative not even moderate
conservatives these are hardcore
nationalists or the old nobility and the
reason Hitler got into power and able to
become a totalitarian leader is that he
was the
shared Coalition leader for the
industrialists parts of the trade
unionists the Imperial
bureaucracy and the military so all of
those were socially conservative and
Trump was a nationalist lead leader who
they could pick who that they would
agree we want this nationalist in charge
Hitler got off really lightly due to uh
for his attempted coup because the
Judiciary were all hardcore right-wing
nationalists who gave him three months
for launching a coup which is ridiculous
today our entire deep State and the Deep
State's a contentious word our entire
ruling class are leftists so Trump would
be physical physically incapable of
doing what Hitler did
because there's just not the
institutional backing for it at all yeah
that's definitely the hey he might be
Hitler but he's never going to be able
to pull it off uh argument which I think
is is reasonable so regardless of
whether he is he's not going to be able
to do it because of the American system
but one thing I'm just trying to channel
the comments right now uh let's see if
we can preempt some of this so one thing
we haven't talked about is his obsession
with loyalty uh what do you guys think
about that oh I'm obsessed with loyalty
it's a relatively it's a very normal
trade like I reward loyalty tremendously
um I mean if if we say like being
bellicose and obsessed with loyalty are
like hitler-like traits then like the
entire nation of Italy is
Hitler right and the thing is is if you
look at any leader any leader ever at
all of course they put a premium on
loyalty they might not announce it all
the time but yeah when you're in
positions of power and you're in
politics it's a very backstabbing game
you want people around you that you can
trust to some degree right and only in a
world where they're like well you the
only people you should trust is
experts you know that that's the only
Society where they're like well he
shouldn't want loyalists around him why
because I disagree with those Loyalists
and I don't think they're experts on
fields and the experts are really just
people who fall within my ideological
line right what I look for and my real
final point for all this is I look for
logical consistency are you mad that
Trump is a philanderer well then you
should also be mad that Bill Clinton is
a Flander are you mad that Trump is
trying to you know bust through his you
know plans for the economy and stuff
well you should be equally mad that FDR
did that right so whenever the leftists
are mad about something Trump is doing
right and and it tends to come down to
rhetoric and I'm like look man if
rhetoric's your big problem I don't know
what to tell you I feel like there's
worse things going on right
now when you when you have a problem
with Trump if that problem EX exists on
your side on the left with one of the
characters there and you're unwilling to
condemn them for that just cuz they're
on your side you are not making a
logically consistent argument you're
just mad because someone who's not on
your side is potentially in power right
that's what I dislike from a lot of the
rhetoric around this is it just sounds
like people are like well he's not on my
team so therefore he is bad right I'm
I'm with you Tom where it's like yeah if
he was trying to be dictatorial and
overthrow American democracy I wouldn't
like that I wouldn't be huge fan of that
I wouldn't be a huge fan if anybody did
that because it's against American
values to do that in the first place
right that is the problem not who's
doing it and I think some people on the
left don't always aren't introspective
enough to consider that point when they
make these
accusations okay what do you guys think
about Lincoln so when you were saying
that uh I like loyalty I reward loyalty
uh made me think of Lincoln and the idea
of a team Team of Rivals now maybe those
Team of Rivals existed at a different
time and there was just a sense of um
shared fraternity for the government
that maybe doesn't exist now I don't
know but I I've always resonated with
that idea I build my companies around
that idea that I want people who think
differently than me I want people that
challenge me now they need to share my
values so that I know that we're trying
to uh reach a shared outcome um but I do
worry that Trump will blind himself
intentionally
because what he means by loyalty is you
Echo back what I
say yeah I think that's fundamentally
true but also doesn't make him Hitler uh
you are a CEO I am a CEO I understand
how difficult leadership is and so I I I
often don't blame other leaders for
doing different strategies than me
because I know leadership has to Echo
the leader and their personality and
then the people they're working with and
then there's the situation they're in if
it's 1700 Warfare and we got to charge
muskets uh blind loyalty is the best
trait to have um and then there are
other traits where you want different
kinds of leadership but I mean I can
accept a dozen different personality
flaws in Trump uh and then you still
have to make the decision is he a
worthwhile leader against the
competitors the conclusion I came to is
yes yeah and and on the point with
Lincoln I think that Lincoln in most of
those instances is exception to the rule
right he basically spent his entire
career as a wartime president where the
Democratic party which was in control of
the South broke away almost as a party
and so he was trying to make this you
know Coalition with his rivals in order
to show that that party should not break
away from him that they should put their
trust in him and keep the nation
together that was an incredibly extren
circumstance that I I think there's a
good lesson in there you know and I like
your your style Tom with I want people
have different ideas but same values
right and I think that's how that's how
Lincoln would have seen it too right our
value is we want to keep the nation
together right even though the Democrats
have different ideas about how to do
that but certainly I'd say that he was
in an extren circumstance and that was
an exception to the
rule very fair all right gentlemen how
do you want to take us out what do you
do you think we've covered all of this
or do you have any final messages to
people that are losing sleep over the
fact that he is Hitler in the
making so my problem is that that kind
of person would lack enough rationality
so that anything I could say up to this
point would not affect
them what about uh any anything for the
moderates in the crowd who uh they they
respond positively to a new angle on um
your so sense of what's true my attitude
here is I'll State this
um I do not believe Trump would like to
take authoritarian power I do not
believe he is a dictator however making
the jump from he is Maduro to he is
Hitler is such an enormous jump that it
just seems ridiculous I mean I would ex
saying because he has some bellicose
Tendencies Trump is one of the worst
dictators in human history is just
hysteria it's just this pre-established
emotional attachment that they're
addicted
to that's very concise Merrick what
about
you right I think that again the left
largely dominates the rhetoric in our
country and so as such when they're
not when Trump isn't playing by their
rules they get really mad right because
his rhetoric doesn't match what what we
want to see and so he's Hitler because
one he's not playing by our rules and
two I think the elites feel threatened
right he is threatening interests and
then trying to mobilize the the working
class poor people on their behalf to
protect their interests but I would say
I'm from Boston I know a lot of leftists
and I would say if you look around the
left is not in working in your interest
right now either and I'm not going to
guarantee you that Trump will I think he
will I think that's his plan right
whether or not he's able to execute in
the way that he wants that's his plan he
wants to help Americans out but
certainly the left is not making any
moves to help you out right now and in
fact they've intentionally taken steps
to make things worse for you so for the
moderates I would say whatever your
problems are with Trump just make sure
that you're also looking at whatever
problems you have on the left and not
falling prey to the the media panic over
this guy and being more clear on you
know what is actually going on in
totality well said all right uh I will
leave you out there I assume if you're
watching this that uh like me you
believe that the center is a destination
and you hope to meet uh a whole bunch of
lovely people there with intention and I
will just say this the future is unknown
and anybody that tells you for sure they
know what Trump is going to be uh no one
can know that now we've had four years
with him so I hope that people keep
their heads cool and remember the
following that the preemptive strike is
uh comes from somebody who believes that
they can see the future there is a movie
uh about this very thing where people
are com convicted of crimes that they
have not yet committed because
supposedly uh they have these precogs
that can see the future it's called
Minority Report it is well worth seeeing
uh my only ask of people is that tell
the world what you believe is true and
distrust yourself enough to know that uh
you nor I cannot see the future and a
preemptive strike against somebody uh
would be the only mistake to make that's
it for our annual Extravaganza of I hope
you guys enjoyed it I hope you guys
enjoyed the comparison between Trump and
Hitler make up your own minds as always
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peace if you like this conversation
check out this episode to learn more if
you think you've seen it all think again
did Elon and V just use x to back down
the government our billionaires
blatantly rewriting the rules of
politics or are we the people simply
making the government afraid of us again
Trump says the government knows about
the drones and XC