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and the greatest lie ever told is the
complete fabrication on the information
of human nature when 99% of human
Generations disagree with us we should
think about whether or not we're wrong
jenzi has 90% less buying power at the
same age that Boomers had you can
correlate inflation with social collapse
if you were to look back at 2010 and you
were to write up a story what would a
15-year period of America's descent into
a civil war look like I could not tell
you how it would be different from what
we've
seen what are the historical parallels
that you see that make you believe that
we're going to have As Americans a civil
war in the next 5 years that's a good
question to start on
and there are four historic conflicts
that I think are proxies and for those
who aren't familiar with my work um I
predict that the world is on the verge
of two crises a political and a
demographic and psychological so I look
at for the political crisis the thing I
look at is the English Civil War the
French Revolution the fall of the Roman
Republic and the American Civil War and
the way my mind works is I have multiple
simulations in my head and then from
that I figure out which of these
simulations uh the new facts I see fits
into so I say this is a parallel to the
fall of the Roman Republic this is a
parallel to the English Civil War
and through that uh I I like one of my
catchphrases I'm betting against God and
what what do you mean by that so the
world is infinitely complex it's
infinitely big to be able to predict
facts accurately in the future
accurately you have to predict all the
variables because everything's connected
that's impossible so my standard is I
don't I'm just figuring stuff out I'm
going to be wrong and I accept that and
so I operate under the assumption that I
don't have complete knowledge and so
I try to look at the new events that hit
me every year with eyes as unclouded as
possible and so I don't have any
pretentions to getting the answer right
all the time or even being correct I'm
just trying to figure stuff out Once the
mind is not enslaved to its own
Creations it can be free if you know
what I mean okay so with that you're
willing to be wrong but you're looking
for these parallels in history and I've
heard you say that you're not looking at
history to know where we're going
tomorrow you're literally just making it
up exactly so you gave us the events but
now connect them for me so if those are
the events that parallel us on a
demographic level what is happening at
the demographic level what happened back
then and how does that make you draw the
conclusion that Civil War is inevitable
a book that really really changed my
life was The Great Wave by David hacket
Fisher and I read it the start of 2020
and it was just it shook my world and so
David AET fer is one of my favorite
historians his other books are brilliant
as well and it's a history of inflation
for the last thousand years of Western
history and that sounds boring but it's
actually one of the most interesting and
best written books I've ever read and he
found that you can correlate inflation
with social collapse and so every 250
years the West goes through a period of
social collapse and with the previous
example in Western Europe and its
diaspora being the French Revolution the
uh Wars of religion in the
1600s uh and people forget out those
Wars but they killed a third of the
world's population as some historians
say then the black death in the 1300s
killed half of eurasia's population then
you have the fall of the of the abised
copit in the Frankish Empire you can
trace this every 250 years as far back
as we have records going to the
Babylonians and so from Fernand browell
and uh David hacket fiser from that
those authors Peter turchin established
a computer model which can predict when
these crises happen and he ran this
computer model in 2010 and it showed
that the Western World and America
especially would experience a social
crisis on the scale of the 30 Years War
the French Revolution or the black death
in the 2020s and he if you're interested
I can talk about more but he has three
different variables that are predictive
for us where he plugs these variables
into uh over a dozen in historic crises
and looking at them he can predict these
historic crises to have wars the exact
years they took place in and then he's
got about 20 other variables which are
also uh they're not predictive but they
are variables that you see once these
sorts of crises happen and so all of the
flares are going off right now and the
scary thing is that if you were to look
back at 2010 and you were to write up a
story what would a 15-year period of
America's descent into a civil war look
like I could not tell you how it would
be different from what we've seen all
right explain it to me like I'm five so
we've got the um the the demographic
ties to the um areas in history that
you've mentioned we've got the
predictive model that has three
variables it gives us the
250e cycle yes uh but if I were a fifth
grader 5-year-old whatever the the
statement is how would you break it down
for that's a good way of phrasing it
because lots of people have knowledge
closer lots of very intelligent educated
people have levels of knowledge on this
topic equal to a fifth
grader uh I don't blame them for that
there's a lot of things like science or
math where my knowledge is Middle School
too but um
so the way I'm going to phrase this is
in times of peace and in times of
prosperity the population grows and
that's an obvious enough thing um people
can afford to have kids and so they do
so but the problem is that labor or
people working and capital or money for
investment they're in permanent
cooperation and competition over history
much like men and women and so once the
Val once there are more people the value
of their work goes down and from that
inequality skyrockets so over periods of
prosperity as the value of the working
man goes down the ability for Capital to
buy things goes up this has a series of
end points where once inequality
increases competition for good jobs goes
up because there are fewer good jobs and
then secondly wages stagnate so that
people can barely survive um and then so
that's the third variable so you have
inequality wage stagnation and uh
competition for elite jobs and so these
are the three variables that predict
when societies have Civil Wars and so
this isn't all Wars the world's Wars for
example don't fit this pattern the Punic
Wars don't fit this pattern but this the
wars I described before do and so what
happens once the amount of good jobs
shrink um then people start to compete
for them more feverishly so if you lose
your position you're just screwed
forever and so then from that the
society splits into different factions
so for our society it's the right versus
the left and for each of these historic
parallels they fit an underlying ethnic
or class or Regional interest for us the
right and the left is college educated
cities versus non-college educated
countrysides and so you can add a bunch
of other things that stack on top of
that you could do male versus female you
could do high agency versus low agency
um or bureaucracy versus Merchant class
and so what happens is that the right
will push the interests of people
without college degrees and the left
will push the interest of people with
college degrees and they fight each
other over uh which of their social
groups the society should support and so
previous examples of this are the uh
Cavaliers and The Roundheads in 17th
century England that was the nobility
versus the uh Bourgeois and the
merchants uh in the Russian Civil War it
was the uh C the center of the Empire
the industrial core versus the fringes
and in the fall of the Roman Republic it
was popul
versus the Deep State and so for each of
these it's these
underlying interests that but that split
apart the population and when things get
desperate enough for normal people the
active people have the incentive to
start a
war okay
um why is it that that level of
dysfunction is solved by a war that's
the part that I always find I recognize
it in history but just seems
crazy because so many people are going
to die in War I mean war is like as
horrible as it gets people are rational
in that they search for their own
self-interest but you can often get
horrifically irrational results from
that one of the things I read about
World War I is it's a series of tiny
rational steps that adds up to Madness
where World War I was the Germans
thinking we need to fight the Russians
now or the Russians will grow stronger
than us the British and the French
thought we need to fight the Germans or
the Germans will go stronger than us you
add all of those rational calculations
up and it was a war that killed that
rendition of European civilization the
calculation going on here is that
there's overc competition for labor and
the supply of labor has gone up and I
can explain why this happened the supply
of labor has gone up 40% faster than the
actual demand for labor so that pushes
that pushes um the supply of labor down
and
um so when I grew up I would I'm going
to take a brief tangent which explains
this point well when I was growing up
I'd sometimes forget to feed the cats
late um because my parents had me feed
the cats and so when I'd forget to feed
the cats late the cats would fight each
other and blame each other for a mistake
that I made and so what happens when the
total environment gets harder is people
kill each other for resources and so
what these factions are trying to do is
for the conservatives or the leftists
they're trying to control the government
to first of all remove their competitors
and then secondly use the government to
push their self-interest so if the left
wins they would have the government push
various bureaucracies so the college
educated would get more jobs if the
right wins they would dismantle the
entire managerial system which would
give jobs for their supporters and the
really unpleasant thing is that in these
crises it's you you can view it in a
very Mal Fusion way and Mal malus was a
thinker who said that overpopulation
happens and then it population crashes
and we're not overpopulated that people
are starving but there is an over supply
of labor and then in these crises for
example the Black Death half of
eurasia's population died the crisis of
the 1600s a third of the world's
population died and so it's it's this
natural biological Rhythm that you can
see paralleled in the animal kingdom and
where I grew up in Pennsylvania this
happened to the deer where the deer
became overpopulated and they just
started there was deer plagues the Deer
uh there was mass deer famine and if it
happens among the deer why doesn't it
happen Among
Us okay so um that all of that makes
sense the only thing is it all hinges on
this idea that we have an increase in
supply of labor uh that is more than we
need right now but everything that I'm
looking at says that we have a massive
demographic problem in that we have a
ton of old people and we don't have the
young people to support them we have
just rapidly declining populations yeah
so if you had said this is a declining
population problem and we can't support
the old people I would have understood
um but you're saying that instead it's
an over supply of labor how's that true
so that's a great question because it
leads me to the point I was trying to
get to where uh I say that there are
actually two crises going on hitting us
at the same time the first is this uh
demographic issue I described um and
then the second one is uh is the
population crash and we're having both
of these the same time and so the the
crisis that I described before it's a
natural historic cycle that occurs every
250 years I'm going to call that the
secular cycle because that's the term
for it and the other thing which is
something I've teased out in the last
two years I call I give it a variety of
names I call it Mouse Utopia I call it
the psychological Black Death I call it
uh a variety of things and what I found
there is that there is that this very
very Stark popul
crash where if the current demographic
Trends continue there will be six
Koreans for every hundred alive today
and that's the pattern among every
single industrialized country where um
the birth rate is crashing faster than
anyone thought was physically possible
and these computer models have pretty
wide standard deviations and so it's
crashing faster than any of the computer
models predicted and that's a scary
thing in of itself that almost NE no one
talks it seriously in our society and so
we are unlucky to face two demographic
crises at the same time where I say that
the secular cycle is hitting because all
the variables wages have stagnated to
the point where a majority can't pay uh
can't pay a $1,000 emergency Bill and
40% can't pay a uh $400 or $500
emergency bill so people are barely
getting by quality of life statistics
have crashed people can't afford Dev
families there's massive inequality
there's massive uh political
polarization so all of the variables
that uh I would use to predict the
secular cycle are happening and we have
a de facto over supply of labor but then
aging is about to hit us like a truck
and so both of these will get entangled
inside the other and one of the biggest
issues that we would get with aging is
that you have a smaller population of
producers versus a larger population of
dependents and that's an ugly situation
to deal with because whenever the pie
shrinks people get violent
yes they do uh but how did we get an
over supply of labor while the
population was crashing so we have a an
incredibly bizarre demographic curve
it's like nothing we've seen before so
the world's population in 1940 was a a
little over two billion we're past 8
billion now so what we saw was the
quadrupling of the world's population in
less than a century and so from that and
so we have our Elite has done literally
really everything it can do to increase
the supply of labor and these are
complex things that are both good and
bad but they all on a statistical basis
increase labor so the America's
population is more than doubled since
World War II through natural population
growth uh the US has taken in something
like 50 million immigrants we've
globalized our economy so we're doing
labor competition with Malaysia and
Mexico and China and uh automation one
of the really huge ones that people
ignore automations remove a lot of Labor
Supply um women's entance to the
workforce is another so all of these
variables have increased the supply of
labor and Peter turchin looked at the
statistics on this and so we are in this
absolutely bizarre bulge that crashes
and so the demographics are remarkable
where the world's population increased
on an L curve it's insane and then it
immediately crashed and so we are
dealing with things that historically
should probably happen over the course
of 500 years in like a 150 year time
time frame and that's due to the social
effects of the Industrial Revolution
where you have rapid population increase
but then for complex reasons Urban
societies can't replicate their
population so you have these rural
populations form into cities with health
and uh infinite food and all that stuff
but then those cities can't replicate
and so if you want to look at uh England
for example England in the
pre-industrial world had a population of
like 10 million people now it's up at
like 60 million and then in 50 years
it's going to crash precipitously um and
so it things are happening so fast that
you can have a labor we have an over
supply of labor now but then it's going
to start crashing very quickly and so
there are a lot of other weird variables
like AI is kicking in a lot of
automation is getting worse and so we're
getting slammed by a change of a massive
and so I I don't think in 20 years there
going to be there's going to be an
oversupply of labor but as of now just
looking at the wages it's
true okay uh we we are setting a very
complex table yeah um so just to plant
some flags for the audience here really
fast because I I obviously coming into
this have done a fair amount of research
okay
so uh what you have is the incredible
population swell that you were talking
about that brings in way too much labor
but on top of the population swell we
also introduce women into the labor
force which already just doubles not
quite doubles but has a massive impact
on that uh we're going to go through the
thing you just um went by quickly which
is that cities have some natural inbuilt
mechanism that sort of self-destructs
their uh population growth uh which is
the whole Mouse Utopia psychological
black death which will be next on our
list uh but just for now dear audience
know that the belief on the table is
that as you bring people together in
cities it it is a natural occurrence a
predictable occurrence that the birth
rate will begin to drop and they will
create their own population um we also
have something that we haven't put on
the table yet but I know is a big part
of your thesis which is um as the left
leaning people take power morality and
religion things that have kept us in
check and kept the sexual tension
between men and women that goes away and
is replaced with kindness and kindness
oddly enough has this wildly
self-destructive quality and so we'll
we'll be getting into that okay so that
that's the sort of looming thing so that
a lot of people certainly people my age
are like what do you mean bro this is
awesome uh younger people are like how
can that old say that like this
is the worst thing ever um and so now
what we have to walk through is why the
discrepancy between my generation I'm a
Gen X so why the discrepancy in
perception between Gen X and gen Z and
what does that tell us about what you
call the psychological Black Death yes
um for everyone in the audience I'm a
Zoomer I'm 23 uh most people
overestimate my age so I was going to
throw that out um and I mean there's a
discrepancy because the difference is
huge I mean you're looking at people
forget charts are real they look at the
numbers in the chart and they forget
that it actually has to affect them I
see this with economics a lot people are
like yeah we can just like money printer
go Burr which is a meme of basically the
government printing infinite money and
they forget that there's an end result
to it um but
so the baby boomer generation has this
more so than Gen X people and I'm sure
you'd agree with that where if you want
to look at the Baby Boomers uh the
entire economy has been geared towards
their self-interest for their whole
lives where people forget this in 1960
the average age was 25 uh half the
population was under 25 in 1960 now it's
around 40 and so when the Baby Boomers
were growing up and starting families
and getting jobs we had the highest
wages of any period ever in history and
so and that was caused by uh America
having this huge industrial Advantage
due to the world wars um and so over
time though as the Baby Boomers became
adults it continued to reflect their
self-interest where we moved from a
wage-based economy to a capital-based
economy and so we see that with the
Reagan Revolution and Thatcher the
liberal
because when the Baby Boomers were
growing up uh America had an economy to
the left of like Denmark today and then
we removed that and then we saw the
opening up of capital and so 1980 until
2020 uh due to these This Global huge
baby boomer generation saving up money
for retirement you just saw massive
amounts of money and so this was the
period the most people were ever were
lifted out of poverty between 1980 and
2020 and so because all that Boomer
Capital uh supported the the third world
and now as the Boomers are retiring the
money is being taken out of the economy
to pay for their retirement so because
the Boomers were in this very decisive
strategic point in this demographic boom
and you guys should check out Peter's
Ian he talks about this stuff very
eloquently uh the Boomers were able to
first get good wages then use the
government to secure uh to secure uh a
capital good economy and then after that
used the government to support
retirement and so as of now the
governments of the world are doing the
most money printing of any period ever
in history or money Printing and debt
where it took us all the time from the
revolution to 2010 sorry to 2014 to
reach the amount of debt we had in 2014
we've doubled it since because our
ruling class are boomers the incentive
is let's print a lot of money so that we
can retire comfortably and then we'll be
dead so our kids don't have to deal with
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plus okay so that's how the Boomers got
into the position that they're in but a
stat that I've heard you throw out is if
I'm remembering it correctly uh that
jenz has 90% less vying power at the
same age that Boomers had so call it
your mid 20s uh that obviously is brutal
especially when paired with another stat
which is whenever the average age of
marriage hits 28 you're going to have a
revolution and we're at 29 right now um
so this is why we have to walk through
the psychological Black Death Mouse
Utopia as your mental model for how all
of this stuff plays together I think
this is really interesting and this is
the part that as I was researching you
really forced me to confront my own
views of what uh how the world Works
basically and this whole walkthrough
certainly helps me understand the left
in a new light it will be very
interesting to hear you walk through
this so what is the psychological black
death and how is it tied to the
discrepancy between Boomers and gen Z
firstly I want to thank you that you've
put the effort in to actually explain
the logical course of the ideas I get
that very rarely on podcasts most
podcasts I just jump around from idea to
idea um
so
the our conception of human nature is
completely wrong and the the the video I
I just uh it's being edited right now is
the anthropology of the left then I'm
going to write the anthropology of the
right then uh the video I hopefully I'm
going to write after that or maybe a
video after that is the greatest lie
ever told and the greatest lie ever told
is the complete fabrication on the
information of human nature from what I
call the blue pill era the blue pill era
is 1960 to uh 2020 and the blue pill era
believed these like I let's say 10
things they're just completely false uh
progress will continue Forever at no
cost men and women are psychologically
the same there are no genetic
differences between race sex or class
that there is uh that human nature is
naturally uh a blank slate that you can
just write whatever you want on to that
human nature is perfect um and that we
are gradually moving towards Global
Unity these are things that because
Society was ludicrously wealthy we
believe the things wanted to hear
because there was no pressure to believe
the unpleasant truths and
so uh I've invented an acronym called
saw and saw stands for studies in
ancient wisdom and so there's this huge
convergence of social science since the
start of the 21st century with what
every previous Society in history
believed
and when
you're uh one of my friends has got is
saying if you're the only sane man in a
mad house you're the crazy one
and um and so when 99% of human
Generations disagree with us we should
think about whether or not we're wrong
and so what saw has consistently found
is the factors that matter the most for
personal happiness are relationships and
religion and so if you view modernity as
the removal of relationships in religion
everything else is all the massive
wealth all the safety the health is a
side effect and it's clearly true
because I mean we are the wealthiest or
until 5 years ago or 10 years ago we
were the wealthiest safest most hygienic
uh whatever Society in history but our
society is miserable listen to the pop
culture uh listen to the speeches the
politicians get read the literature for
every single cultural form you could
analyze your Society through we are
miserable and so that demonstrates that
our previous assumption that if you
improve people's material conditions
they're going to get happier
and I am going to jump so actually how
am I going to say this would you prefer
I start the psychological Black Death Or
Mouse Utopia knowing that their nested
dear audience will start with mouse
Utopia one of the things I like to say
is that uh I I said before that I think
there are two crises that are hitting
our world the secular cycle and mouse
Utopia and I I say that like I have made
hundreds of hours of content trying to
explain both of those crisis and so
you're trying to intuitively figure out
an event that will only make sense in
retrospect where historians before a
historic event happens it's difficult to
explain if you explained the world wars
to someone in 1900 they think you were
insane uh and so that's how the world
works and so psychological Black Death
is a theory that I invented myself uh
and I found it from looking at actually
Zoomers uh because Zoomers have such
stunningly poor mental health that it
scares me and I again I'm 23 and people
might age a lot of them they can't go on
phone calls themselves they can't go to
the doctor themselves it's difficult for
them to work a job they can't date it's
just they're completely dysfunctional as
individuals they have crippling anxiety
and the mental health statistics for
Zoomers are horrifying I think like 80%
of Zoomers are lonely 80% have anxiety
like a quarter have a diagnosed mental
condition and for women the numbers are
horrifying if you want to look at women
of the age of 25's mental health you
need you'll need a shot of vodka um and
and so I know a lot of these people
myself and I I've I've been in a couple
different weird positions where I get to
interview a lot of young people and it's
just once you interview young people
with their lives you realize there are
very serious mental health issues that
uh are just ignored and no one's got a
good Paradigm for it so I was trying to
go back and figure out why do young
people have such horrible mental health
and this is something John height has
looked into John Height's one of my
favorite authors I definitely recommend
you guys read all his books but one of
the biggest issues our society has is
that we think human nature is this like
roadblox that you build you put a brick
here you teach the kid algebra the kid
remembers algebra you put the kid into
Chinese classes the kid's going to
remember Chinese and human nature is a
and so we view human nature as a machine
to cut up and it's really a garden you
cultivate over years so for for people
or children you have to put them in a
setting where they can play where they
can make friends where they have a
belief structure and these kinds of
structures um
they create psychological stability so
people can be creative and develop and
this is something we've completely
forgotten and so when I was growing up
for example and my parents weren't like
this not out of any principle they just
didn't where I knew lots of kids where
their parents would walk them to school
every single day they'd walk them four
blocks to school until they were 18 or
they'd read their text until they were
18 or control their spending money or go
they would they they were going to go to
college in they were going to Mo to the
state their children were going College
to to follow them there or walking them
to job applications and so it this is a
huge issue and it hits the um it hits
the the ruling class the hardest so
these issues are the worst among ivy
league kids among people at the top
companies Etc and so I look at this this
is something the elite not the elite
everyone ignores but it if for me it's
it's a it's an elephant in the room that
how the hell are these kids supposed to
like fight against the Chinese how are
they supposed to build new railroads how
are they supposed to start families in
economic situations and so I tried to
figure it out and the conclusion I came
to is that um humans were very much tied
to the environments we grew up in and so
for example I I when I had a researcher
I paid him to figure out the underlying
statistical drivers for populations that
have reproducible birth rates and so
you need to have two things to have a
sustainable population so those are you
need to be a rural and a religious
society and this goes back to the
ancient world in the Middle Ages cities
couldn't reproduce in the Roman world
cities couldn't reproduce and so for all
of history uh keep in mind
pre-industrial World 90% of humans live
in small intact social communities where
everyone knows each other where there's
this shared sense of community and the
most industrial societies are the
inverse they're 90% Urban and so we as
humans have never evolved for urban
societies and so what happens once you
hit the urban society and you passed
dunbar's number is 130 people it's the
number at which you can um at which you
know everyone in your village and so uh
there's a unit in the military that's
130 people Roman Centurion the average
company uh the average uh Church size
all of these numbers Crest around 13 30
because that's the the size a human mind
can comprehend and once you get past
that number you can't hold people to
social standards and people get very
lonely and so there's not this once you
get past that number it becomes
impossible to enforce social standards
the cities of Italy in the 14th century
were atheist in the ancient and Medieval
World um and sorry back in the Greeks
and the Romans that was true too and so
cities and countrysides create this
Duality where the city is creativ ity
it's the ability to have
cosmopolitanism it's libertine the
countryside is uh stable uh kind of
bigoted uh it's very Community oriented
uh not as creative but they create this
Duality and so what happens when you go
overnight from a 90% rural Society to a
90% Urban Society is that you have a
burst of creativity from putting all
these rural people together in uh in in
cities and then after that they lose the
replicability and so you see population
crash and so for examp we we can track
this today where the reason America has
one of the most stable birth rates of
any developed country is America is the
most Rural and religious society and
those are the same things almost
basically every Urban Society in history
is either uh agnostic atheist or
doubting and every rural Society is
religious and so it creates this Duality
what happens once you get Urban societ
ities is you lose the ability to
maintain communities religion um and
socialization because you just end up in
uh you end up in Anonymous environments
and then this results in breakdown of
ability for social cooperation it
results in massive psychological issues
stemming from lack of socialization and
loneliness um it stems from basically
humans didn't evolve to be in urban
societies and so I predicted that we
would see psychological crisis and I've
I I've gone back in history through
previous psychological plagues and so I
say that our society is currently facing
a psychological
plague okay so um give me what the
psychological plague is in one to two
sentences super tight French Revolution
Stalin Nazis okay so uh you have let's
take Stalin um you have a revolution
where it's like the ruling class has
gotten out of hand they're stealing from
you dear people yes uh let's kill them
all and then everything is going to be
great and we will have a communist
Utopia and all will be well the problem
is that people end up pushing back
people don't like to be told what to do
you come in and you say hey these uh
kulacs that are a little bit better at
farming than you they must be doing
something bad so let's kill them too so
you kill the coocks to make sure that
nobody has more than anybody else equal
outcome everybody uh but then the equal
outcome becomes starvation because you
killed the people that actually knew
what they were doing and now you have a
real problem yes okay so now what I want
to get into because I have drawn from
you in fact let me lay out what I have
taken from you and you tell me where I
go wrong so as I was trying to put
together what exactly the um
psychological Black Death is um I leaned
on what you were talking about with
mouse Utopia So for anybody that doesn't
know Mouse Utopia can you give me that
quick
and then I'll dive in with what I pull
from that uh Mouse Utopia was a study in
the 60s that was run about 30 times by
uh by Calhoun and the study was based
around the population growth of that
time period And so that was a era when
everyone was terrified of overpopulation
and so what happens is they put nine
mice in a container that could hold
6,000 mice perfect conditions no disease
no Predators perfect temperature what
happens each time the mouse population
goes from nine to 2,000 and again the
cage can hold 6,000 then it crashes
precipitously and so with that you see
um the mice start to break off into
different dysfunctional communities you
have keep in mind autistic wasn't a buzz
word in the 60s so was actually what it
clinically meant a lot of mice become
autistic lose the ability to socialize
there's these mice that groom themselves
all day but they don't mate called the
beautiful ones um there's there are
sociopathic mice who just kill other
mice mice um then there's other mice who
uh W lose the will to live and they end
up homeless wandering around the the the
community getting attacked by other mice
mice refuse to have families or uh breed
and the mice lose the ability to
socially cooperate with each other
female mice become more aggressive and
they attack their own young and male
mice become more feminine and so what
you see is the mice lose the ability to
socially Co operate and each time the
mouse population crash to
zero and uh because once they stop
having children the community just dies
okay
so uh that that is something I think
people will see a lot of parallels in
but there's one quote that you have that
once you pair that with what you just
walked us through with the mouse Utopia
you begin to really understand how your
worldview hangs together and the quote
is history is a biological cycle now
there's something I have said many many
times to people in my University that I
want on my Tombstone which is if I'm
going to bring anything to the world it
is one very simple idea and that is you
are having a biological experience yes
and so when I heard you say hey all
these bad things they they're actually
mediated by a biological response to
call it Society at large okay if that's
accurate it's deeply troubling I really
hope it's not accurate and I hope that
you get proven wrong because boy is this
horrible uh and at the end hopefully
we'll have time where I can tell you
where I think we go based on feelings
and then you can shoot it all down uh
but okay so you Mouse Utopia uh by the
way I've heard you say and it's
important that our audience know this
has not been replicated outside of this
guy so this guy ran this experiment a
gaggle of times getting the same result
every time other people have tried to
replicate it so take it for what it's
worth a lot of these things fail to
replicate go ahe uh the reason I use
Mouse Utopia a lot is that uh I I
normally don't go after studies like
that because I frankly don't trust I
don't trust the capability of a single
study to create a coherent worldview the
thing I see with mouse Utopia is that uh
it our society has lots of parallels
that don't fit historically that do fit
with mouse Utopia so for example our
society is trying to commit
civilizational suicide um nihilism um
degrowth um a lot of the social
movements we have in our society like
feminism or um a lot of you you don't
see something that parallels a lot of
the social changes we having hap having
today in history or at least their very
muted form you do see it in Mouse Utopia
so once I got past let's say 2022 I
started seeing things in the world that
I could only find a parallel to in Mouse
Utopia uh and
so with history being biological one of
the quotes I'd like to just keep
repeating in future videos is we're all
a bunch of crazy monkeys I mean all of
us are uh most of most Americans are
hairless albino Apes um and so once you
see humans as animals and we are uh you
can view human society as an Animal
Planet thing where I used to watch a lot
of Nature Documentaries as a kid and so
you see there's desert in the grassland
the baboon start killing each other they
fight over mates and humans use
rationalizations to push their
biological self-interests um and lots of
ideology is basically a a masked
self-interest for the group
and history is history is biological
everything we do is biological um there
is also
um ideas do exist but they're I think
ideas do exist independent of biology
but they are in they're sorry that
statement is too complicated it's both
interdependent and dependent um and yeah
I think it's very useful to see all of
human history as a reflection of the
crazy animals who live in it so I think
uh a quote that you've said that's
really important you touched on it sort
of at the edges just a second ago is
society is rationalization not
rationality yeah and so once you
understand that we're doing a thing and
then we come up with a post Hawk
explanation of why we did that thing but
that thing is actually driven by a
biological cycle that we call history
yes okay so looking at Mouse Utopia your
hypothesis goes something like this uh
the reason that even though the cage
would hold 6,000 and we crash every time
at 2,000 is that baked into the cake of
evolution is a protective mechanism
against the ecosystem as a whole and
that you don't ever want one organism to
become too successful such that it ends
up gobbling up everything and
essentially killing itself yes that
that's a great Point uh and we like to
think there's always easy answers but
going back through history uh there's
like 10 things that could have caused
the fall of Rome and what you choose is
basically a RAR shock test for uh what
you care about so you could say that uh
you could say that uh climate change
caused the fall of Rome changes in
military structure demographics
degeneracy uh and there's like five
other things and population decline too
um and for Mouse Utopia you can trace it
on multiple levels of causation and for
example if you want to see the Earth as
a self-enclosed basically uh I don't
want to say conscious but it it is self-
adaptive you want to see it like that
and there's a significant amount of
evidence for that what mous Utopia is is
the natural order basically shutting
down human um shutting down one species
from getting too powerful as you said
and and so it's comparable to the the
body where if one let's say uh viral or
cellular Clump in your body is growing
too fast we call it a disease or a virus
or a Cancer and then the body's white
blood cells naturally crush it and we
have this um we it comes from dayart uh
we have this uh idea that the soul and
the mind is buffered from the body but
the reality is the thoughts we think are
reflections of our chemicals inside our
body and so we think what we say is
objective but the reality is that if the
chemicals are changing in your body and
if for people who have had physical
illnesses I know I'm pretty sure you
guys can have known this if what's in
your body changes what's in your mind
changes and so with mouse Utopia the
scary thing is we would rationalize
Mouse Utopia so that every single thing
in mous Utopia would make it appeared to
us as if we were making the correct
choice and crazy people don't know
they're crazy that's the problem if
you're stressed if you're crazy you're
probably not crazy if you completely
believe what you say all the time even
if it's ridiculous then you might
be yeah distressing but true okay so uh
if that is accurate and what we have is
a biological cycle sort of a biological
kill switch if you will that makes it
hard for us to grow beyond that then you
start looking at the things that are
going on right now and suddenly the
parallels make sense that this is a
biological response to the rapid growth
and that biological response is the
thing that's creating the secondary uh
crisis that's crashing so you get um
crisis number one is is the demographic
financial crisis of Labor ends up
becoming too abundant because we're just
growing so fast becomes too abundant it
triggers some sort of well the financial
thing just triggers uh inequality which
as you laid out earlier is going to
create a problem but then also that
rapid expansion trips this switch and
now you begin to get a population
decline which creates a secondary
problem which is you have way too many
old people not enough young people to
take care of them but I think maybe the
biggest one and this is where I want to
lay out how I've interpreted your thesis
of the psychological black death and I
want to see if you uh agree or if you
think I'm crazy all right so you said
let's see if I can find the exact quote
that basically um I'll I'll get the
quote in a second but basically the idea
being that when
you start moving towards this uh
population explosion it means you're
doing well you don't have these outside
threats when you don't have these
outside threats suddenly the breakdown
of traditional Norms that we would find
in the rural areas you said Rural and
religious those are the things you need
for a stable birth rate so that begins
to break down because now women can uh
come into the workforce they don't
necessarily have to have children and
you said uh I don't I don't think it was
an exact quote so I'll give you the
paraphrase uh which was women need to
have kids they don't need to be pursuing
their artistic dreams so
that's that's not what I said that's
what I said the general folk wisdom is
for most societies say more so that's
not a reflection of uh
societies tend to develop these concepts
of social norms that you should follow
uh for society to be stable and so
that's generally the collective wisdom
over history and the collective wisdom
for most people over history unless
you're Aristocrat is like you work and
have kids and so once you get a
wealthier society you move past what
that folk wisdom is um
and and so like another thing I said in
that podcast was the collective wisdom
for most pre-industrial societies is
that you have rigid sexual mores to
build up tension between men and women
to incentivize men to work or you have
uh social social institutions that make
people tough for example uh in Islam
they have a one-month period where they
fast what I think is going on there is
that to force people to fast for a month
builds up delayed gratification um and
so what cultures do normally is that
they build up
these uh social standards which give
them a competitive Advantage versus
other
societies and do you think that that
again this is a part of a biological
Loop or is this how does that come to be
basically yes I think it's spiral and
this is something my favorite author
amori dur Aur uh says that history I
call history a twisted mirror I think of
it like DNA um where
it's our era of History in every era of
History reflects things from the far
past and the far future um and so for
our era I gave the four different time
periods that I I pull us from and I see
it as a parallel and there's little bits
of the parallel and
so it appears as a loop as if you get
these Cycles but the world clearly does
change 2,000 years ago there was no new
world there was no anti-malaria medicine
uh and so we do learn things as this
continues everything we see around us
this city of Los the size of Connecticut
it was built up in the last cycle so you
see the patterns return every moment is
both its own perfect indivisible second
but it's also infinitely connected to
everything else at the same time um and
so my attitude is I don't want a strict
return to the pre-industrial social
norms we've done all this crazy modern
stuff so let's find a new integration of
the old pre-industrial social norms with
the current thing because we've done so
much learning through this process all
right before before we get to the how do
we escape this I really want people to
understand your thesis on how we got
here yes uh so like you I would not just
take what I'm about to say and go cool
this is what we need to go back to but
it is extremely informative if true
about the way the human mind works so
you and I don't know each other so I'll
tell you the way that I approach the
world I cannot fathom that people don't
have one single Guiding Light and that
single Guiding Light from where I'm
sitting should be I want to believe
things that have a high degree of
predictive validity so if I believe this
thing it allows me like the computer uh
simulations you were talking about they
allow me to predict what the outcome of
my actions will be at a personal level
at a societal level uh I'm going to
believe things not that I can prove you
know just down to the microbe that this
is true I want to prove that when I
believe this it has predictive validity
so Newtonian physics is actually wrong
but has a very high degree of predictive
validity so anybody that bought into
that for however many hundreds of years
that stood I'm here for that that made a
lot of sense until they could get down
to the quantum level there was no way to
really believe anything else nothing
else is going to be useful so uh I don't
know that what I'm about to say is 100%
like this is going to stand for the next
thousand years as being accurate but
this feels like it has a lot of
predictive validity that you have to
keep humans in check that you need
people to have uh sexual roles that for
humans to thrive and by thriving I mean
fulfillment uh that you are going to
from an evolutionary perspective make
sure that you don't get conquered and
slaughtered which if you're not a
student of History you do not understand
how often that happened where literally
gangas KH and roll into your your city
and at the end of his visit all of you
would be dead except for some of the
women and your city would just be gone
pyramids of skulls yeah liter just the
the level of Devastation people just
can't not comprehend yes so there was on
an evolutionary time scale it really
mattered that you were having enough
children that you could replace your
population that you could be strong that
you couldn't just be outbred and
conquered that very simple fact sits at
the bottom of what researching your work
hit me with okay so if that's true again
we're tying this to Mouse Utopia I know
that I need a replacement rate otherwise
I get population collapse no know
waiting for me on the other side if I
grow too rapidly too fast I'm going to
hit some sort of trigger point that
causes this to collapse now I don't
think that there's actually a biological
kill switch designed to make sure that
we don't overpopulate what I think we're
running up against is you stop being
Rural and you stop being religious yes
now the reason I think that those things
are stabilizing forces is when people
have maximum Freedom they will not
choose to do things that are in the long
longterm best interest so for instance I
don't have kids why don't I have kids
because one I wasn't thinking through
any of these problems and I looked at my
life and I really wanted kids but I
wanted to not have kids a little bit
more than I wanted to have kids and so
not thinking there's any tie to like oh
this will be a problem just like yeah
word this is the choice I'm going to
make in my life I know that I have to
find meaning and purpose I will find
that in other ways okay we'll set that
aside but now a lot of people start
making that choice and all of the sudden
my wife who loves that people want to be
mothers and have kids just isn't making
that choice you get a lot of people not
making that choice and the unfortunate
long-term consequence of that is that
you have a declining population now
we'll need to get into immigration at
some point but that will complicate
things too much right now so I'm just
going to set that aside so you get a lot
of people that are making different
choices that when we are freed from the
shackles of uh a guy really wants sex
woman leverages sex to get access to
protection and resources and so you have
this forever dynamic between men and
women of women going I'm a sexual
gatekeeper go be cool go be awesome go
be a great hunter be a good provider
take care of your kids do all that and
I'm going to sleep with you and for the
guys from an evolutionary perspective
it's like word that's a good trade I'm
going to go become hardcore so that I
can have sex with you I assure you that
is a huge part of why I became the
person I became because my wife was like
don't I mean she never said this but it
was effectively don't you want me to be
impressed by you and the things you're
doing right now do not impress me and so
I went hard in the paint to impress my
wife and so I realized wow she actually
made me a better person now I always say
she made me a better person in the ways
that only a wife can and by that I
largely mean that she would reward me
with enthusiasm and sex and all of those
wonderful things uh when I was acting in
a way that subconsciously she could will
lead us to being successful she wasn't
thinking of it like that it was just hey
I'm oh when you're powerful I find it so
sexy when you're leading all that so
cool right all those things so now you
start getting a breakdown of that so you
get women coming into the workforce you
get men now having to compete with more
people you get this massive increase in
labor wages are starting to go down
equality inequality is going up uh the
sexual gatekeeping women realize well
hey wait a second I don't need uh to
sleep with a guy I can get my own stuff
I can make my own money I can protect
myself the guy starts going well wait a
second you want me to die in a war for
what reason like I don't get to have sex
with anybody like this is not
interesting I think people fail to
understand at a biological level how
driven by sex men are and of course it's
complicated it's the love of a woman
it's the having a partner it's children
all of it so I'll round it to sex but it
is obviously that very complicated nest
of ideas all right all right once that
begins to break down now you get the
whole weak men phenomena women are going
their own way men are going their own
way and you are now ripe for either just
population collapse being overtaken
through demographics by a different
culture that doesn't have this problem
or just straight up being conquered and
that is the loop that we see over and
over and over that I think your mouse
Utopia and psychological Black Death so
eloquently outline thank you I think you
got that you nailed it down and I really
want to Hammer home on the point that
you touched on that uh the most
important thing socially is balance and
having a counter vening force and it's
why America became the most successful
country in history because America both
has checks and balances inside his
government system but also in its social
structure America has a very Diversified
Elite uh between different parts of the
country between different social classes
watch my American civilization video if
you want to know more um and so um once
people are not held in check they
subconsciously start to do crazy stuff
and you can make it too far in the other
direction though and this is something
where I disagree with a lot of
conservatives is I do think the social
Moray of uh the prouse Utopia world were
too constrictive and I look at Asia and
I think we need to form a new synthesis
with the things we've learned now with
the past and what happened in Asia where
around a thousand ad Asia was the most
advanced place in the world World India
China Islam were massively economically
technologically socially Advanced but
then what happened over the course of
the Middle Ages is that Asia's societies
became too socially constrictive so it
became impossible to be creative in
China China was about to have an
industrial revolution in the 11th
century um and then the government
overregulation
the the Uma and the church shove shut
that down and so you need to have this
Duality and the reason the West was so
successful as a civilization is that it
combined this balance of competing
different social groups where in the
west the church the uh monarchy the uh
sorry the church the monarchy the
nobility and the merchant classes all
competed against each other thus forcing
them to act their best so you have to
combine enough social institutions to
keep people on their toes but not not so
many that you crush and oppress them
under the weight of
culture yeah striking that balance is
hard so given that religion has been so
successful at this what is it about
religion that is the countervailing
force that's been so effective religion
accomplishes like 10 different tasks
that it's there's the there's the whole
neurology to this but modernity can only
really think in boxes and religion
accomplishes lots of things outside of
boxes so uh first of all religion
creates a goal through which to orient
your self-development as a person or a
society where the religion tells you
what you should and shouldn't do number
two religion establishes communities
based off social trust off shared values
and moral
prescriptions number three um religion
establishes some I guess this is still
part of one religion establishes some
kind of social standards um that you
can't cross and so religion mitigates
the worst parts of of like a tragedy of
the common behavior um where people are
behaving in short-term self-interests
that hurts the whole group uh number
four religion establishes Mystic paths
and this is something we forget about
religion but every religion has a Mystic
tradition where people go to the spirit
world and talk to God and that stuff um
and religion religion does a variety of
things between establish psychological
stability where it wires people's brains
um religion wires people's brains
towards positive uh the mind's an
ecosystem remember ideas flow through
the mind and the mind can be filled up
with ideas in the same way that the
human body filled with different germs
so religion uh establishes good thought
germs in your mind where for
Christianity as an example uh the idea
that God loves you um and that you you
should you will fail but uh if you fail
God still loves you and you should keep
trying because you're going to fail
that's a good that's a good mental Loop
for your mind to have and so religion is
a combination of establishing good
mental germs in your mind allowing group
coordination um and also establishing uh
a general framework and uh psychological
concepts for how the society should be
orchestrated all right one thing thing
that I am now beginning to ponder is uh
what huge role the dynamic between the
sex as plays uh women anchoring men to
want to be better so that they are
prepared to serve Society but really
they're doing it to get laid yes and
then it made me ask the question has
Christianity and societies that are
Christian in nature have they been so
successful because they get the most men
laid let me think about that so this is
a video I've been meaning to make for
like a year and I I've had the ability
to write it I just haven't gotten around
to writing it and one of my favorite
books and one of my favorite books ever
is sex and Power in history by Amor
duror and it's a history of the rise and
fall of civilizations from the
perspective of uh the relations between
men and women and so the masculine and
The Feminine is a proxy for order versus
chaos how a society deals with the
feminine is a proxy for how it deals
with chaos so for example around a
thousand ad Asia became incredibly
restrictive to women where um all the
Asian civilizations Islam India China
women were completely shoved out of
private life they had to basically wear
burkas they were forced in the house and
so by giving women so little authority
these societies fossilized they lost the
ability to be creative because if you're
shoving it's it's an archetypal symbol
where if you want to shove the feminine
give it no power you're going to over
prioritize order for Western Europe
Western Civilization um in the
pre-industrial world almost every
Christian Society treated women better
than almost every non-Christian Society
um
and and so Western Europe had the best
treatment of women for any
pre-industrial society ever and so West
and so what happened was the West had
this ability to deal with chaos and
creativity where women were given enough
social Authority that they could uh that
they could ask men to work harder to
appeal to them and another thing is that
the Romans the Greeks European societies
are monogamous uh and monogamy basically
creates significantly better societies
than polygamy because more guys get laid
because what happens with polygamy is
the Emperor has 100 watt women and then
every other guy then there if the
emperor is 100 women or even more than
that that means there are 99 other guys
who aren't getting laid so they don't
have an incentive to cooperate in the
system so they could start wars or
become criminals and that stuff and so
the West Was was able to strike this
really good balance of giving women
enough social Authority that women could
hold men accountable but there was also
this social structure of Christianity of
the village of uh of the village and of
social traditions that could keep toxic
femininity in check all right what is
toxic femininity and how is it manifest
in today's world we can all agree that
toxic masculinity is a thing and toxic
masculinity is let's say I'm a pirate
and I used my physical Force to beat
someone up um or it's using social
traditions to push male interests at the
expense of the society so with toxic
masculinity comes toxic femininity and I
boil down toxic femininity to an acronym
called GSR or gossiping shaming and
rallying and so GSR is the use of
relational Warfare to get stuff and so
an example of it is let's say a woman
wants to get a job and uh she's not
qualified is that she threatens to say
that the job hirer sexually harassed her
if she doesn't get the job um and this
is something that the clinical research
has gone into and we've proven it that
women will use uh basically language and
shaming to get what they want and um and
so the whole thing about you should
believe like with me too that you should
believe every single thing a woman says
that's ridiculous because if you
establish a princip people will abuse
whatever principles you let them abuse
so if you have a social system where you
can't question sexual assault
allegations you end up with just this
magical wild card that a woman can pull
to push her own self-interests um or so
gossiping shaming and rallying where um
you can you the way it works is that you
establish uh these kind of ideas that
exist as proxies to push your
self-interest and so
um and so envy and social ostracization
is another example where uh something I
know a lot of women have talked about is
that if you're more attractive or smart
or Pleasant than other women is other
women will make up lies about you and
tell you that you're ugly and try to
ruin your life because your competition
the women who get bullied the most are
the most attractive and um and so
undermining is another aspect of it or
crabs in the bucket thinking where if
you see uh and I've made a video at Envy
it's of older video but it's one of my
favorite it where um if if you see
someone who's doing well and you try to
tear them down that's an element of
toxic tox of toxic femininity as is
overc consumption for social signaling
so if you blow all of your man's money
on Jeweler to make yourself look better
at the expense of the whole family
that's another element of it so it's
gossiping shaming rallying undermining
Envy hyper consumption using emotions
when logic is necessary
magical thinking of just wishing things
happen so it's this crystallization of
negative female behaviors which are
paralleled by the masculine basically
being a pirate and beating people
up the the masculine is a little easier
there to summarize okay so uh how is
what's going on today feminine uh toxic
femininity
um every single thing in feminism is
pushing for a woman's self-interest um
and feminis
Left Behind the idea of equality like
let's say 10 years ago and I've seen the
definition change four years ago if you
were to go on we uh like the dictionary
website they would say feminism is
pushing for female male equality but now
a majority of people in college are
women uh among people under 30 women
make more money than men um all those
sorts of things and so once you they got
past equality it wasn't about quality
and now it's if you look up the
definition it's for female advocacy um
and so I mean there's like 15 examples
of it and uh the it's funny that you
said it's hard to explain toxic
femininity because that's an element of
toxic femininity an element of toxic
femininity is to make it impossible to
talk about toxic femininity uh and so we
H I have to take forever to explain this
because our society if we were 200 years
ago I would just have a we would have a
bunch of cultural words where I could
just say the word and you be like oh
yeah I understand this concept but not
being able to talk about toxic
femininity is an element of toxic femin
minity where um where if you criticize a
woman for anything you can be called
sexist um the the Ware State and we
don't see it this way two-thirds of
two-thirds of the people who take money
in the welfare state are single moms
it's a form of redirecting income from
male to female and you can argue about
whether or not that's toxic but it
definitely is the dispossessing of
resour it definitely is the transfer of
resources me too is another example um
if you ask so we've reached the point
where it's basically physically
impossible to have expectations of
socially sanctioned expectations of a
man to a woman and so a man is still
really expected to make more money to
support the family to be masculine but
if you tell a woman I'd like you to and
let's say the man Works a job the woman
doesn't if you tell a woman I want you
to cook clean take care of the kids
that's considered toxic in of itself and
so toxic femininity has been basically
the complete abdication like can we
think of a single social that it's
acceptable to hold women to
today I'm too old so I would have listed
off a whole bunch of things that my
generation wouldn't miss a beat on but I
certainly understand uh what you're
saying about today my bigger question is
all right how is it that that ideology
whether pushed by men or women how did
that take over so many institutions
wonderful question um the bureaucracy so
one of my favorite books ever is the
Leviathan and its enemies by Sam Francis
and it's so if you lived in the Middle
Ages you would not know what feudalism
is in the Middle Ages the nobility owned
the land and then they would predate
from The Peasants you would just think
this is how the world is the Lord
protects me I pay you limit rent to the
Lord it is what it is leviathan and its
enemies is that for modern society where
modern society is this bureaucratic blob
and every major institution is a
bureaucracy the um the governments a
bureaucracy religious institutions are
bureaucracies the military is a
bureaucracy Corporate America is a
bureaucracy any single thing you could
think of is a bureaucracy
and you think what kinds of people staff
this bureaucracy
and the left is an ideology which
rationalizes the continued growth of the
bureaucracy
because they the left is capable of
establishing this utopian goal that's
really impossible but you can use said
utopian go to get infinite bureaucratic
funding uh there's no amount of money
that could that the West could give to
Africa to make Africa wealthy because it
would just get stolen by the dictators
uh and so if you look at the funding for
uh for Charities that go to Africa most
of it skimmed off by the dictators
because the dictators have no interest
in the people getting wealthier because
then uh if you keep people in grinding
poverty the they they're not going to
Rebel because they're too poor to rebel
and so it the left jumps on these issues
that can never be solved like male or
female differences or poverty in Africa
whatever and then if you have an issue
that can't get solved you have infinite
funding forever because you just say hey
I need more money and so you can keep
your job you can hire your friends you
can raise raise your social status and
people do what Their incentive
structures tell them to do and they'll
develop very complex rationalizations
and in the leftist worldview it's
perfectly Justified because you're
you're building the Utopia and so what
happened is that and woke people are
about a 10% of America's population so
America statistically is onethird red
onethird blue uh onethird politically
non-affiliated um and the politically
non-affiliated from studies aren't
centrists they just don't care and so
woke people in that blue third of
America woke people are about 10% the
other 2third of the left are moderates
and that is an infinitesimally small
amount of the global uh of the global
market share for companies like Disney
or Google or whatever but that 10% are
the people who run the bureaucracies and
so they could get social Authority
because the bureaucracy has the power it
has the guns um or has the guns for now
um and thus the kinds of PE the kinds of
IDE ideologies that rationalize the
bureaucracy are the ones that win and
the bureaucracy founds that women make a
very useful Ally um because women are
naturally weaker than men and what the
bureaucracy's deal is that we will give
you everything a husband would have
provided in the pre-industrial world um
no strings attached because in the
pre-industrial world your husband and
your family um they protected you they
provided you resources they provided
social insurance um in exchange for sex
basically and so the bureaucracy told
women we can set you free we can
liberate you from the tyranny of custom
and culture and in exchange you give us
your loyalty so the welfare state
provides an insurance the police provide
uh protectors and the military provide
protectors the bureaucratic governments
provide work and so the bureaucracy
built this deal with basically single
women if you look at the Democrats of
the statistics of the left it is largely
single women where they would replaced
the role men had in exchange for
unalloyed loyalty and this deal was made
about a century ago um and and so as
this time has passed further and further
on the bureaucracy has had to entrench
itself more so and more so in their base
of support so it's kind of spiraled off
into greater and greater degrees of
silliness over
time okay uh so is it that whenever uh
uh the feminine mode of being gets power
of the institutions that that's when we
have this um weak men make hard times
moment where everything goes Ary or have
there been times in history where no no
no this is not when um the female way of
being has control of the institutions
that does not necessarily mean that
something is going to be bad and have we
seen moments in history where female
matriarchies have just done well by the
society there's a correlation there it's
not causation so there are weak
societies that are hyper Mas that's
funny called them call a weak Society
masculine but you look at India before
the British the British were able to
conquer India outnumbered 100 to one
India was a society where women
basically couldn't leave the house and
so there are very weak societies that
don't give women Authority um every
single Society in history has been a
patriarchy uh that's just an
anthropological fact and there was a lot
of pseudo science and Ling that went
into this in the post World War II era
so there are no matriarchal human
societies there are strong societies
that give women Authority so um Anglo
Amer English speaking societies are a
great example of this english- speaking
societies are the societies English
speakers rule the world today but
they're one of the Societies in history
that gives women the most Authority same
thing with the Romans same thing with
the Vikings um or the Spartans and
interestingly according to mysticism all
all things lead back to their self so if
you push a society too masculine it will
end up a feminite and if you make a
society very feminine it could Circle
back to masculine because if you're in a
society where women have a lot of
authority it it it's often hyper
masculine men because the men have to be
hyper masculine to impress the women
well if you have a society where uh
where women have no social Authority the
men become effeminate because they don't
have to try and so you have these
dualities where the best system is one
where men and women are both strong and
the worst system is one in which men and
women are both weak all right it feels
like we have a system right now where
women are strong they're coming into
their own they're performing very well
in the job market pulling ahead of men
there's a wage Gap it is certainly on
the side of women uh women that have not
had kids uh out earn men of the same age
group yes so why then have we not made
hyper masculine men um that's a great
question um
so it's because there's very little
incentive for the men to do so um and so
what we're seeing now has happened
before in history it's just we are the
greatest example of it it happened uh
ancient Greece had a feminist movement
um there's a really funny story here I
can get to if you'd like ancient Greece
is the feminist movement um then the
Romans did uh the Arabs had a feminist
movement a thousand years ago too uh we
forget about that uh there was a point
when Islam with the society that gave
women the most rights of anyone in the
world um unexpected yeah a thousand
years ago Islam went through their whole
separate Arc like the fall of Rome that
no one knows about um
and and um so what happens in a society
like that is that you've removed
responsibility for women inside the
system so if you have a system where men
and women are responsible to each other
they have to play into each other but
what's happened instead is that the
bureaucracy has strategically enabled
toxic femininity for their own benefit
and so our society has the worst female
mental health of any record we have of
in history because through doing so we
women have isolated themselves from
their communities families value systems
and it's like um SSRI use is super high
um the female mental health is collapsed
um just if you give me a metric it would
prob would be bad now women are less
happy now than any time we've had
records for uh going back uh at least to
World War II um and so it's clear that
it's not a system that's working it's a
system based off a lack of
responsibility if you look at the
current social order and this is true
for both men and women um there's no
reward for being pro-social uh if you're
the kind of person who cares about your
community and you want to serve your
nation militarily or invent a new
scientific discovery if you want to be
earnest our society will ruthlessly mock
you um and I think that's a that's a
very bad
sign yeah I very much agree with that um
none of this feels like it leads to
Civil War this feels like a world that
ends in a whimper it feels like honestly
if I just step back and look I go
America's birth rate is plummeting uh
whatever societies are keeping their
birth rates High they're just going to
uh ride the wave of the decline which
will be ugly for everybody but they'll
ride the wave of that and then they'll
just repopulate um why after hearing all
of the sort of case for weakness mental
health issues and all that do you come
to the conclusion that we will have a
civil war in the near future yes uh the
parallel I'm looking at here at the fall
of the Roman Republic and this is around
100 BC and around the fall of the Roman
Republic um Rome had started out as
these Allied city states in Italy and
they had conquered the known world and
they were a reluctant superpower uh they
conquered the area from Spain to like
turkey and Syria and Greece and with it
there's a lot of parallels to our
current Society the fall of the Roman
Republic saw the massive rise in
inequality the rise of Mega corporations
the death of the Roman middle class the
collapse of birth rates um the rise of
feminism massive social
liberalization uh there was massive
political polarization between the
optimates and the popes parties
um there was uh so Rome spiraled into a
civil war there were the rise of
charismatic Cults of strong men like uh
Elon or Donald Trump or Mark Zuckerberg
or whatever um and and uh and so there's
a tremendous amount of parallels
and what happened over time is that Rome
had a series of Civil Wars which turned
it from a republic to a uh Empire run by
an emperor and
um something I should have thrown in
there too is that Rome had a huge
immigration at the time a third of
Italy's population were immigrants
mostly slaves and so that killed the
Roman middle class and so the uh the
Roman civil wars were started by uh a
populist politician basically running
off the let's rebuild the Roman middle
class agenda and rebuild make Rome great
again and so actually he got
assassinated which is how I could have
predict I predicted Trump would get
assassinated or an attempted
assassination two years in advance and
so I was looking off that parallel um
and so why do why do people want that
figure type Dead uh so the left want or
the left thinks that they are on the
moral Arc of History the left's
basically religious worldview is that
the moral Arc of History demands they
win and so when they see something that
goes against the moral Arc of History
their immediate thought is not that
there's some underlying like demographic
or like systemic issue that's causing it
it's that bad man stopping progress and
so the left has the left has projected
all of the reasons they're not
succeeding onto Trump as an individual
without looking at I've never heard a
leftist I'm from Pennsylvania I've never
heard a leftist talk about
de-industrialization or uh or stuff like
that or the ISS the the financial issues
that the left really dropped class as a
social isue um and so uh and people are
desperate and so when you're desperate
you look for anything that works and so
I think they would see the death of
trump as a way to dis to stop the right
forever and I mean the problem is that
the right doesn't actually have any
coherent leadership besides Trump when
Trump dies and he's an old guy it's
going to happen sooner or later uh the
right has no other leadership structure
uh and so that's the answer I give if
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