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uh the Dancy made that impossible for us
they have um band us Shadow band us kept
us off stages manipulated polls used
lawfare against us sued Us in every
possible State they've even planted
insiders into our campaign to um disrupt
it and to create actual legal issues for
us I mean the extent by which um the
sabotage uh they've Unleashed upon us
it's it's mindblowing I mean we're still
learning new ways that they have
sabotaged us um I really wanted a fair
shot at this election and I believed in
the America that I a little girl pledged
an allegiance
to all right you said that we need a
plan what's your guys' plan if you get
into office first and foremost we need
to reduce spending then we've got to
audit our agency spending our
priorities and we've got to be
intelligent about how the
government uh thinks about its role in
the lives of everyday
citizens um we've got to figure out how
to stimulate the economy and increase
productivity you know I've heard you
talk very positively about Bitcoin and
AI uh and innovation in
general but you know the inflation
reduction Act was supposed to add to
stimulus in the economy chips Act was
supposed to add to stimulus in the
economy it neither one has actually done
that both have resulted in inflation due
to such massive amounts of
spend so um there's you know we have
this agency called the government
accountability office who is designed to
track and audit this stuff but they've
never been properly looked at or
empowered uh to produce the kind of
reports that are honest um I'd imagine
that if we put in you know real Auditors
into the government we'd see some pretty
scathing reports about abuses of budgets
um there's you know let's just talk
about military spending alone we spend
an enormous amount compared to any other
Nation on Military and and security
Agreements are are you know if they
actually produce security for the
country it'd be one thing but right now
they seem to be antagonizing our enemies
um so reduction of military spending is
really really key the next big budget
item is Healthcare and um we have too
many sick people in this country we
spend $4.6 trillion doar on healthc care
it it's not producing the results we
need so we need to be reassessing how to
get our kids and our families healthy
because it it is bankrupting the country
that's I mean that's why when I talk
about chronic Health it's not it's not
this woooo concept it's it's really like
tangible in terms of of our country's
priorities and if you're a single isue
voter who cares about the
economy we we need to fix how much the
government is spending on Healthcare and
we need healthy people who are
productive okay so uh longterm I get it
get people healthy fix the soil that's
going to bring down those costs
dramatically but in the like immediate
call it 100 days do you guys have a
thing you're going to go after to reduce
spending the military budget on day one
is really a priority and then the second
is is agency conflicts um many of our
agen IES have massive leadership issues
as it relates to contracts that are
between the government and these private
corporations when we talk about
corporate capture that's what we're
talking about is that the people running
our agencies are the same people that
are benefiting from those positions by
moving government dollars um into
corporate coffers and we need to audit
every single one of our agencies
starting on day one it's not going to be
an easy task but it is a task of utmost
priority and what do you guys think
about the amount of Regulation that we
have now good bad and
different it's it's it's interesting
because you know citizens united not
sorry um the Chevron uh the Chevron
Defence uh was just overturned by the
Supreme Court recently and basically
what the Supreme Court said was that
we're not going to defer to the agencies
on certain things anymore we're still
going to allow the courts to go through
a regular judicial
process um on on issues related to those
things such as you know what the EPA
regulates and we're not going to defer
to the agencies
to to make ultimate
calls um anymore and I actually think
that was a good thing because if the
agencies were doing
what they should be doing we would want
Chevron deference which is deference of
the agency to um oversee and Implement a
a order uh but the agencies have been
gutted by corporate capture and I think
returning to regular judicial process
you know related to an oil spell or
related to River contamination is a good
thing um and and I would say
overall I mean is there a piece of
Regulation that you're particularly
following regulation around Bitcoin or
yeah crypto is the one obviously that's
most on my mind but I just have a
generalized thesis that we are facing a
cold war with China and if we are going
to dial up rhetoric and get into a hot
war with China I would say that's really
stupid and if we want to win an economic
War the way to do that is I mean the
20th century gives us a Playbook and the
Playbook looks something like
dramatically reduce uh regulations to
make business just easier uh and
dramatically reduce taxes so that
businesses are able to reinvest into
their businesses and that's so hot
button now I know people going to hear
that and be like yeah this is a business
guy just talking his book uh but just
look at what we did historically when we
were in the cold war with Russia um that
is the Playbook and so as you increase
regulations business just gets harder to
do this is why we haven't been able to
build the railway here in California is
just one restriction after another after
another it is a a literally like 15,000
page book on how not to get things done
um so yeah you're going to reduce if
regulation made sense and it was
economical from even the government
operation of these regulatory
bodies that wouldn't be a problem but
massive inefficiency and Corruption
within our regulatory bodies is why we
are here
today Regulators being able to control
corporations is just another way for
them to have power in times of Elections
it's it's just another tool that
politicians
use um to
maintain
the control of political Financial
coffers um so there's a few ways to go
about this one is I mentioned citizens
united in corre in the incorrect context
but I'm going to mention it here
is the corporations being able to buy
politicians to change laws that either
benefit them or restrict um the growth
of their competitors this is a huge
issue if we eliminated corporations from
being able to fund
elections we would see regular the whole
regulatory framework change um because
there wouldn't be this abuse anymore of
government and regulation to get what we
want to play this game to use the
government as a form of controlling our
competition it's effectively what it is
it's why the big corporations end up
seeming to just Skip by while you know
competition becomes harder and harder uh
to to to make profitable like you know
competition like Rumble was a great
example um Rumble just wasn't able to
compete in uh through a natural growth
curve because Google was restricting its
access um in search results so they
weren't able to increase their exposure
anywhere even though they were covering
topics that should have been indexed in
search
results um and and why do they get away
with that
well I think in part because Google is
massively involved in the government but
we recently saw uh a court um order that
said Google couldn't do that and that it
was uh antitrust and and now the FEC is
looking at it but will the FEC actually
do the right thing probably not
um not the FEC sorry the FCC Federal
Communications Commission so so there's
you know you end corporate
involvement in elections regulation
starts to seem more sane and fair
there's less rigging politicians don't
have a lot to gain
financially by creating a fair playing
field yeah um what about inflation was
what's your take on managing
that again this is this is going to be a
really hard one and this next
Administration is going to have
to reduce this renway inflation they
cannot continue to use um the current
interest rates uh to boost up the
economy um our stock market cannot be
the reason for a
voiding uh monetary good monetary policy
we we absolutely have to figure out how
to reduce government spending government
spending and inflation are directly
tied and secondarily we have to figure
out how to increase Supply and
productivity in this
country
um again the actual correction that we
need to do is going to be a hard one
what is the actual correction though
there's a few paths to it so Israel in
the
80s um changed monetary policy that
actually increased inflation for a fixed
period of time um which allowed them to
manage their debt um because they had
runaway debt and they had to get their
debt under control so inflation and debt
go hand inand when you correct for your
debt you can reduce inflation at some
future
period um but you often times will have
to go through certain adjustments and
there's a number of these adjustments
that can be made reducing spending is a
really important one um there's been
talks of changing how we issue
entitlements which is a really touchy
subject but none of these are
comfortable right you know your reaction
to moving to the gold standard was you
know a shock right it's super
uncomfortable yeah just because I don't
think people will go for it that's the
thing like having money backed by gold
uh I love it I don't love it as much as
having it backed by something that's
truly um impossible to inflate so if
gold were a static commodity instead of
one that inflates at roughly 2% a year
um I would like it a lot this is where I
think anybody following along needs to
understand inflation and why it matters
uh so this was the thing that really
blew my mind inflation is and I put if
you don't like the words I'm about to
use by all means you'll get a chance to
say your words my words are that
inflation is theft it is a um it's moral
degeneracy and I think that the
government of Any Nation owns its people
a means by which to store their value
that cannot be inflated now the way that
inflation happens is you print
money and it I'm going to keep it that
simple yes for the the uh econ heads out
there I know is far more complicated
than this but this is close enough uh
government prints money and that causes
inflation and by printing money what
they do is they spread losses across
anybody that owns US dollars or
treasuries or bonds and debt uh and so
hey China gets to participate in our
invisible tax and it hits their buying
power just like it hits anybody else's
so you may still have $100 in your bank
account but only buy his $90 worth of
stuff maybe 80 maybe 70 maybe 60 uh and
so those losses are socialized across
everybody that holds US dollars or US
debt uh and that's how they fund Wars
that's how they deficit spend that's how
they Ron Paul calls it counterfeit money
yeah it it is literally counterfeit
money it's just that we sanctioned the
government to create
it yeah we can't do that anymore oh but
we can and we will and so I see us
driving off of a Cliff uh this going
back to your point about why I made the
face when you said that going back on
the gold standard uh right now you have
a Fiat money supply that you can inflate
infinitely which means that the
government can literally steal my words
as much money from the people and other
debt holders as they want to uh and they
can trick everybody into thinking that
they're getting something for it and so
in what Universe would they be like like
yeah let's go back to the gold standard
it happened once back in whatever
1930 uh but it certainly has not happen
again because we're supposed to 1971 we
go off the gold standard supposed to go
right back it's been a minute still no
gold standard been decades the other
option is
Bitcoin and
you the challenge that I'm seeing people
and like Elizabeth Warren is poster
child for regulating Bitcoin and control
you set it up top yeah it's it's it's
about control so the federal government
would have to let go of some of its
control
over that it has enjoyed for decades now
over fiat
currency um this is why we need to
re-elect a new generation of leaders
that have faith in private markets to
self-correct and who can also stop
subsidizing the things that
prevent private markets from
succeeding we do not have that kind of
leadership it's interesting that the
exact same kind of people that like to
control narratives that like to control
the media that like to control
censorship are also the ones that are
obsessed with controlling our fiat
currency same group of people same
mentality this is why it is a
fundamental shift away from that model
because that model as you so wisely
pointed out is running us off a cliff us
being the remainder of those very few
corporatist Elites that um have hacked
the system for
themselves okay so I'll give you my
overly simplistic take on one thing that
would help so we both agree that you
have to get spending like balance the
budget plain and simple immediately that
that's a level of uh panic and suffering
and pain though that I don't think
people are going to go for but just know
I actually don't think it has to be that
painful you need to say more my friend
say so many more words how is that
possible how do we balance a budget that
adds a trillion dollars in debt every
100 days yeah what do we stop paying for
that gets us to I that's almost three3
trillion do uh a year that's crazy in
fact it is three trillion dollars a year
that's insane uh how do we balance the
budget without Revol
it's it from where this Biden
Administration was and how they thought
about money very very different it's
it's almost
generational
Boomers they and even Gen X have had the
benefit of living these really gilded
existences you know um they it was it
was very it's very different than
Millennials I don't know how old you are
I'm an gen xer you're a gen gen xer okay
so you graduated from college and you
know you and your peers looked around
there weren't too many wars going on
there were jobs there's job security you
believed in Social Security generally
right your generation generally believed
Social Security you pay into the system
it will be there for you as an
entitlement one day when you
retire Millennials very very different
mindset we graduated to um 9911 the Iraq
War Afghanistan
that was high school then it we
graduated from college into the great
financial crisis that whole Boomerang
effect that didn't exist for your
generation you're welcome Millennials
gave you the boomerang effect not
because we wanted it but because there
were no jobs or promises or systems for
us to pay into in 2008 and 2009 the
standard path of going into work was
significantly Limited
um the I don't know many Millennials
that think about social security in the
way that Boomers and gen aers do it's
just different mentality we've had to
treat money differently um and we had to
get very very creative we had to invent
all of these new different ways of
looking at money and saving it and you
know Robin Hood came from Millennials
and and looking at the stock market
differently and thinking about how we
were going to spend our money and and
you know these uh uh group you know uh
communities right all of a sudden
communes came back in style for you know
because Millennials needed
roommates um so Airbnb is a great
example of that too so there's all of
these interesting creative things that
Millennials have created out of
need uh and and to serve the realities
of the economy you put Millennials into
the federal government and it's going to
be different as long as we don't get
influenced by the way the boomers are
running the federal budget just here's
an example um our campaign has been very
loud about p and contamination in
water uh the Biden Administration got
hold of this and they said wow look at
all these people who all of the sudden
know that their water supply is
poisoning them and they're really pissed
off we better do something about it they
have the EPA then announced that they're
going to put a billion dollars into
taking P Out of
Water Dead Silence after that where's
that billion dollars going is the
government accountability office
actually paying attention to that is
there any organization that's keeping
track of every single dollar that the
government's
spending previously it'd be very
expensive to set up these organizations
to track government accountability but
now we have technology and this is where
I am an AI optimist
we can use technology now to really set
bench posts for the spending that the
government is doing some of it's
important but if it's going to groups
and organizations that are not actually
meeting their Milestones um there needs
to be accountability none of that exists
today there's almost zero government
accountability and you know maybe
Boomers and Gen X could get away with
that millennials we typically haven't
been able to get away with lack of
accountability we either produce or we
get fired and that's why Millennials
tend to jump from job to job to job
because it's very clear when it's not
working out um often times you know you
can't just scoot by and hang out in
middle management as a millennial and I
think that that culture is is why you
see JD Vance running alongside Trump and
not a gen xer and I don't want to make
this like a generational argument but
there are some cultural
differences um it's it's why I think you
know Bobby like picked me out of the
bunch to run with him is because you
know I keep track of every penny I take
it very seriously I think there's a
moral um commitment you make when you
both give money and take money and I'm
very strict about that um immigrants
tend to be really strict about about
that too and I'm a child of an immigrant
like we don't live on the principles of
Keynes and economics and borrowing and
credit we're very much living Our Lives
to the principles of Austrian economics
it's either there and it's real or it's
not and you got to go out and
work
so you know I think again government is
is more than just a bunch of people with
policies what government actually is is
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you plan to use technology to overcome
what I think is going to be the big
problem so everything you just said I
love it it sounds great if I'm
Millennial or gen Z that's going to be
music to my ears yes those guys had a
gilded existence we've had it tougher
but that means that we know how to like
spend a dollar and how to save um but
the problem is that right now you're
you're in inverted pyramid territory
where you have a lot more old people
than you have young people to take care
of them and so you can't just say sorry
Boomers we're not going to fund the
liabilities that you've paid into your
whole life and your owed um so now is
the only thing I see as being an option
is you either have to completely
overhaul the
benefits um which I just cannot fathom
we can't for Boomers right we can't so
then it becomes you're going to have to
money print to cover those costs and now
you're back where we started which is
you're not going to be able to balance
the budget because one of your biggest
line items is just a it's non-negotiable
well the the the line is is that boomers
are going to be paying for their care no
matter what they're going to be paying
for it because
inflation right it's their just isn't
worth as much so the dollar that they're
getting in entitlements is just not
purchase it does not have the same
purchasing power um so there's some
recognition about that and then there is
the you know where do the other Cuts
come from and it it is true that we need
some bit of easing to get out of the
situation um I I would love to see a
voluntary system in play where
you know there's there's some balance
between
um and again remember Boomers have a
huge amount of wealth of any retired
generation they're the wealthiest and
they're still getting the benefits so
there's access wealth there and we need
to figure out how to turn that access
wealth into
stimulus um and we're either going to do
that by either changing like the
inheritance tax a little bit and making
sure that if it is that inheritance tax
can be toyed with in a way that goes
directly into economic stimulus versus
to the government because you know the
minute you transact to the government
there's transaction costs there's
bureaucratic costs there's an unknown of
like if the government is going to even
spend that wisely if they're going to
send it overseas would you feel good
about that if we didn't have a balanced
budget would I feel good about cutting
inheritance tax cutting you didn't say
cutting I thought you were saying
specifically the opposite which is that
you would increase inheritance tax in
some way and make sure that that money
was then no I think it would economy no
I I think it would be a voluntary system
related to inheritance taxes that would
be earmarked to towards some kind of
stimulus package volary
how um well you can either pay it to the
government or say you want to pay it to
your child's first
home right that that would be a volunt
agreement so the change there would be
that you have the option to put it
towards the home versus paying it to the
government I kinds of really really
interesting let them control their money
as long as it's going into something
that you consider stimulatory yes very
interesting okay and we've seen schemes
like this with homes first home second
homes there's like all these different
ways to move money around that are tax
efficient um and so there's there's we
have the ability to be creative around
it rers are very wealthy they are going
to be leaving around a huge amount of
wealth and it is on us thinking through
the long-term economics of where that
money goes I don't think it should just
go into the coffers of the government
because the government has failed to put
dollars into actual stimulus the
transaction cost of getting it into even
stimulus bills is in and of itself
extraordinary do you want to see the
government shrink at all yes yes I think
we all do I mean I don't think we all do
who does you and I do yeah um I I don't
know if either the Trump or Biden camps
want to shrink the
government they for sure Harris I don't
sorry I said Biden denight the Harris
Camp I don't think does at all in fact I
have a feeling that they want her
policies require big government corre to
bail out and feed people and I'll be
interested to see what Trump because he
printed the life out of money when he
was in office so he literally I mean
like literally like like it lost
substance he says words that are better
around that in terms of wanting to upend
certain departments but I don't know
that yet to be seen yeah but uh okay
that's very interesting that you want
smaller government I well I want
efficiency and if you look at the role
of the government today it's not meeting
its basic criteria in my definition we
don't have clean Food Water Utility
public goods is a freaking mess like
that's the basic function of government
and they are failing at it um where
they're spending their money these are
auxiliary functions these are not real
functions of government they are over
they are overreach they are part of
either these large money laundering
schemes corporate capture schemes
schemes for power in politics they're
not act
functioning so first and foremost we
have to make sure that the dollars we
are spending are addressing these
critical functions of government like
public goods we've talked about what we
see wrong with the Harris approach to
economics what do you see is the problem
with Trump's approach you know Trump's
Achilles heel in his first
term was really big farm and I don't
think he
understood that it would [ __ ] his
entire reputation and Legacy as much as
it did and it was this perfect storm of
him kind of being like Oh I'll take the
fizer million dollars for my
inauguration event
to selling out to fouchi in operation
warp speed in the lockdowns who knew who
knew just taking a million dollars from
fizer would open the
door to one of the most catastrophic
decisions the United States and a United
States president has ever made in
history fouchi or warps speed I mean
they're all part of the same package but
capitulating to fouche's vision for the
government under you know and under
project warp speed in with the lockdowns
the
masking um the supply chain
disruptions then there was the um
stimulus
package the eight trillion dollar in the
stimulus package which was really
for um
PP P PPP and PPE and all all of the PE
you know all of those there were so I
mean it was such a
massive uh spend for something that in
retrospect was not necessary at all and
and started us on this trajectory what
do you uh I haven't heard a lot about
Trump's policy yet Economic Policy if he
were get to get elected this time uh
have you is anything changed is he
making new sounds what's what's his uh
approach what we're hearing from the
Trump Camp is very positive we are
hearing that he wants to distance
himself from Big
Pharma um we are hearing full
acknowledgment that you know he didn't
he he now in retrospect should not have
fallen prey to the pressures in
Washington to capitulate to the
lockdowns and and then the needed
bailouts um he his his record was
reasonable prior to
that those massive
mistakes um in
2020 and and I don't see acknowledgement
I mean he's not doing it publicly but
privately I don't see much
acknowledgement from any political
leadership that has contributed to the
problem uh like I've seen from Donald
Trump and and I I see him wanting to do
things like he he wants to create a
container he definitely wants to bring
in an
Administration that you know I see him
working with Tulsi very exciting sign
that he wants to
deescalate uh the wars deescalate and
withdraw from the enormous amount of
military spending I mean that's that is
the lowest hanging fruit and he is right
ready to go on it what do you think
about his pick of JD
Vance you know I like I like JD Vance I
I think his statement on cat ladies was
misguided
uh but other than that I think he wrote
a great book hillbilly elogy which
really connects to a much forgotten
population and a much left behind but
important and wise and Soulful
population of the United States that um
you know I think is the greatest
potential for Revival and and and I
think there's you know when I look at
small
businesses and small business um small
business economy I think about farming I
think about Rural America I think this
is the largest untapped opportunity we
have right now and I think JD Vance is
is grown from that and he gets
it uh and I I love I love what he's done
with his career I I think that he you
know has done some interesting I don't
love his Pharma stuff I don't love some
of the stuff he's invested in I'd like
to see him um explain some of it I mean
I've I've not had the perfect investment
record either um but I think those are
things that as long as he shows growth
from I think he is going to have great
potential leading this
country
um when you look at some of the pundits
on him one of the things that you'll see
is a potential nefarious line drawn to
Peter teal uh that there's if they see
him as the future of the party what does
that mean in terms of corporate
governmental um interconnectedness and
do you think that there's anything to
that or are these just
rumors look I Silicon Valley Peter teal
and the PayPal Mafia they're very well
known
and they're reasonably
predictable it's uh these are
individuals that
made a huge amount of
success thinking through how to use the
internet for optimizing Financial
transactions with PayPal PayPal was a
massive success they went on to invest
in a whole number of things a lot of
them really are Liberty oriented school
choice oriented
they they mirror many of the things you
hear from Liberty Republicans which is a
population I tend to like a lot um they
believe in free
speech um you know some of their more
transhumanist things
are I I I I don't fully align with um
and you
know they're very close to paler which
is a massive government contractor so
that's something to keep keep an eye on
but overall in terms of
totalitarian like nefarious agenda I
don't see that it doesn't terrify me as
much coming from that group um I I'd
love to see them talk more transparents
Le about what you know their overall
agenda is and hopes and goals for the
American family I think that would
alleviate a lot of
concern um but I I find that this group
of people is
smaller you know those around Peter teal
they believe in individual liberties
they believe in
sovereignty um I don't see them doing as
many of these intelligence
agency Partnerships as maybe some of the
other Silicon Valley groups that I'm not
going to
name um but I I will say that if we are
splitting hairs I would much rather I
mean obviously I'd much rather see Bobby
and I in the white house I think we do a
much better cleaner transparent less
corrupt job around all of these things
but um if we're splitting
hairs I I would say that I trust the
future of this country more under the
leadership of the Trump and the Theos
and the JD vces than I do right now of
the Harris's and Reed
Hoffman's very interesting all right
then what do you think about walls as a
VP I love his jazz
hands I will say they're really good at
branding over there
um Walts is somebody I think was a
relatively safe choice but um you know
he only sells in an environment in which
Stolen Valor is not like a big deal
right he did he has lied about his
military background and if you are a
veteran you look at Waltz and you're
appalled that this is this is not a
patriate this is somebody who has lied
who was terrified of being deployed who
was kind of sneaky and and and um you
know tried to use his military service
as a political talking point um and his
peers in the military have only negative
things to say
so that matters a lot to people who care
about these things unfortunately there's
a massive population here in the United
States that thinks about Stolen Valor as
no
biggie and and so um my concern is more
about that that that there's so many
that aren't taking this
seriously um than I do about the man
himself but obviously if the man himself
then becomes elected by this population
I think we're in trouble this is not a
good this is is not like the values the
moral
compass um that is being just accepted
as
normal by by by this segment of the
population is is scary to me I hear that
all right there were rumors going around
that um RFK was in talks with Trump that
he was in talks with the Harris camp for
a potential endorsement to either of
them if they could give him uh I presume
spot in one of their cabinets is there
any truth to it um would love to hear
about that definitely not in talks with
Harris uh definitely never have brought
up this idea of an endorsement with
Harris definitely have never brought up
a cabinet position with Harris so those
those are the MSN just taking something
and and spinning it in a way that makes
you know their chosen political group
good fake
news um with you know that being said we
have offered to talk to everybody about
what your policies are who's going to be
in your cabinet do you want to hear any
of our takes on policy and what might
work we've op sourced our platform very
proudly and I will say that Trump has
taken genuine sincere interest in our
policies around chronic disease he takes
it
seriously for that reason I think it
behooves us to sit and see if we can
actually make some real change and if
that is a Unity party I think that it is
something that we absolutely owe to the
American public um to explore what would
a Unity party look
like I I think it would be on day one
making sure that our
health the the arm of the government
responsible for health HHS is directed
by someone we can trust someone without
ties to Big Pharma someone who
understands the foundations of and
preconditions of healthy life uh
somebody who is not going to sell out
our children to um profiteering
okay when would you guys make that
decision there's obviously huge concerns
that you guys are a spoiler uh candidate
and so I understand there'll be a public
facing message but I'm very curious how
you guys think about that we did not
start this campaign I did not put in
tens of millions of dollars to be a
spoiler candidate I put in tens of
million dollars to win to fix this
country to do the right thing um I will
say that clear choice this pack this DNC
aligned pack that was created
specifically to take us out has spent
millions of dollars to take us out they
have unfortunately turned us into a
spoiler um and we don't want to be a
spoiler we wanted to win we wanted a
fair
shot uh the Dancy made that impossible
for us they have um band Shadow bandas
kept us off stages manipulated polls
used law fair against us sued Us in
every possible State they've even
planted insiders into our campaign to um
disrupt it and to create actual legal
issues for us I mean the extent by which
um the
sabotage uh they've Unleashed upon us
it's it's mindblowing I mean we're still
learning new ways that they have
sabotaged us
um I really wanted a fair shot at this
election and I believed in the America
that I a little girl pledged an
allegiance
to and that is not that is not where we
are today and it's not because
of the Republican Party taking us out it
is exclusively because of the democratic
party taking us out and I am so
disappointed I ever helped them I am so
disappointed
that I helped Chuck Schumer in that
Georgia runoff um SEC secure majority
it's probably one of the biggest
mistakes of my life
and
um it's it's really devastating so to
answer your question we we are not
spoilers that was never our motivation
we really wanted a fair shot I think had
we had a fair shot had we had a fair
shot we would have won um
I still would love to see in the last 80
days of this election some miracle play
out where we get a chance to
debate I don't think they're going to
let
us and you know given this I think we
are taking a very serious look at making
sure that the people that have corrupted
our fair and free democracy do not end
up in office in
November um it's hard I mean it's really
hard talk to say these words because
it's also acknowledging how bad things
are yeah it's hard to hear the words uh
do you guys see any path to victory at
this
point I mean technically if uh if we can
stay on the ballots you know we've
qualified for all the ballots now which
is like an enormous feet like it's you
don't understand the system was designed
to after Ros pero to keep this from ever
happening again and we accomplish it so
technically we could win we uh we we
could absolutely win still um the
problem is is if you censor a candidate
as we've been censored people don't get
a chance to even hear
us um there is there
are things that could happen that would
still allow us to win in
November um even in this environment
and it it would it could you know any
you can't predict the number of
variables um but as long as we remain on
the ballots we could win um the question
is
is you know is the risk
of a Harris Waltz presidency worth us
staying in and that's the question we
have to ask ourselves right now is one
do we trust Trump and in his personal
sincerity to really do the right thing
for our country and chronic and chronic
uh disease balance the budget and these
forever
Wars uh is he somebody that's going to
continue to
invite um people like Bobby and I into
the
conversation uh or is he going to fall
victim again to the things he fell
victim to in his first Administration
um so these these we're we're waiting at
all it's not an easy calculation we want
what's best for this country first and
foremost and and and it
is um you know it's it's an interesting
place to be I won't lie like it's you
can't make this stuff up as somebody who
understands that we're connected to
something bigger that spirituality and
politics are intertwined what does your
gut tell you about how this is going to
play
out
H you
know this election is so important but
so is the
2026 uh governor race in
California and my gut tells me that
sometimes you need to go to the source
of where all of this stuff is coming
from it's coming from right here in
California
it's coming from the influence Silicon
Valley and Hollywood has had on the
Democratic party it comes
from this idea that you can manipulate
people with lies uh to get their votes
it comes from this lack of
accountability that just seems to
continue to
spiral and I think that what my gut
tells me right now is that we just have
to keep being honest I gotta just keep
being honest I gotta keep focusing on
what matters the most outside of party
lines I need
to
um focus on a vision that goes beyond
November and if that means that we stay
in and you know there's benefits to
staying in if we get over 5% of the vote
we actually establish ourselves as a
party
71% of Americans want a strong third
party with a real shot at
winning um there's even public funds
available if we get over 5% of the vote
so we could get I think it's like 13 A5
million dollar um in public funds to
keep the party
going and and that's you know that's
worth something um that means that we
can position for a real thirdparty
uh election in 2028 where we don't have
to go around and spend tens of millions
of dollars on ballot
access which means that we can spend all
of that time and money
campaigning um so you know there's two
options that we're looking at and one
one is staying in forming that new party
but we run the risk of a KLA har KLA
Harris and and Waltz uh presidency
because we draw votes from Trump or we
draw somehow more votes from Trump
or we walk away right now and join
forces with with Donald Trump and and
you know we walk away from that and we
explain to our base why we're making
this decision
um not
easy clearly yeah not an easy decision
now are you saying that if you did end
up deciding to back out that you would
run for governor or you would back
somebody for governor oh you caught onto
that piece
huh I don't know yet I I think that I'd
be happy to
support uh somebody great to run for
California Governor so that we can nip
this
dynastic um lineage in the butt uh I I
would consider running as
well I I want to be involved in
California I think you know we're the
sixth largest economy in the
world we have every opportunity to get
this right we produce a third of the
produce for the rest of the
nation um so all of the the policies I
care most about really do apply to
California directly Innovation AI
farming clean water water systems
efficiency of government efficiency of
cities um clear border policies well
closed border it's not it's not that
this is not rocket science you just got
to close and manage the Border wouldn't
that be nice wouldn't that be simple and
nice and straightforward for all of us
and then you know you think about
immigration policy differently too and
and there's ways to do that at the state
level so I think that we could model
California brilliantly as the shining
example of how to bail out of the
catastrophic State the nation is in
right now we just model California for
the rest of the federal government all
right if you guys did end up teaming up
a trump for a Unity party what role
would you play What role would RFK
play I am not in talks with with Trump I
just want to make that clear um so it
would be you know I couldn't Envision a
situation in which Bobby goes and he
does an incredible job with you know for
example
HHS um and
uh Human Health Services it's it's
oversees a massive portfolio of of
budgets over a trillion dollar budget it
really has far reach so I think that
Bobby in a role like that would be
excellent I fully support it I have High
Hopes um and you know just in my
personal life I'd love to see the state
of science Go
uncensored and
uncorrupted um I don't want my child to
be subject to this
anymore and this being the censorship
dehumanization yeah and the misstating
of of what's actually happening like
there's you know there's all of these
great research who want to do the
science but they can't there's all of
these clinicians that want to speak the
truth but they
can't they they actually can't they will
lose their
licenses if they speak outside of the
central
scientific Paradigm and how do we stop
that um there's I mean it's so simple
you government stops colluding with big
Pharma it's really
simple and it doesn't cost any money
that's the best part it's both good for
the economy saves money and allows
people to access the information they
need to to live healthy
lives we've covered a lot of ground what
message would you want to leave to the
American people whether you are staying
in the race or going out I imagine there
is a simple idea you want people to hold
on to what is it Go independent join the
51% of Americans that have
release themselves freed themselves from
the gridlock of this two- party thinking
you will find yourself happier you will
find
yourself um more honest with with just
your needs and your wants and and the
things you're seeing you invite back
critical
thinking and guess what you're going to
make a lot more
friends it's just a happier state to be
in and you can vote for whoever you want
want and you can believe what you are
experiencing through your own lived
experience um so invite back critical
thinking go independent I love it where
can people follow you and uh see what
you end up
deciding follow us on X you know thank
goodness for X it's allowed us to at
least speak freely with the people that
have found us and
uh follow our podcast Bobby has a great
podcast I've got one called back to the
people where you know long form
discussions like these are so important
and allow yourself to listen to everyone
no matter what their political I mean
anyone who interests you right on the
topics um listen to both sides awesome
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