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I am being joined today by a master
storyteller none other than dr. finesse
what is up my friend
good to see you super excited about this
and and as I was just saying the
preparation for this was a lot of fun
because I'm going back so this is we're
gonna be focusing on 80s movies which
you and I grew up in the 80s and so
going back and seeing some of the things
that really impacted me and sort of
beginning to realize how much of my
worldview has slowly been being put in
place okay by these sayings was a lot a
lot of fun so we're gonna share some
clip did you pull clips or stills thank
you pull stills okay I actually live
yeah which may or may not be good we'll
learn if the clips are too long and feel
like they're dragging out then we'll
just put up a still image and go you
know I think it's a good shake-up to
have clips images us it's a variety so
nice good all right so to finish my my
thought so the whole point of the studio
side of impact theory is to create
content that at its core the themes that
it deals with the characters that you
look up to that you aspire to they have
a certain belief system and I believe
that that's where much of the cultural
belief system begins to take root is in
the pop culture all the things that we
aspire to the people that we elevate the
people that we look up to so I want to
bake into that and believe that by
baking into that we can influence the
sort of cultural subconscious if you
will which then goes out to be part of
the belief system that people build to
themselves and these are going to be
things that you'll see I would assume
from you certainly for me things that
played a key role in my development so
and this will be really the things that
we're doing moving forward we've got
three segments of impact entertainment
today which is a teaser not the physical
for max we're building out a whole set
for this but giving you guys a sense of
the way that we'll be engaging what
content to build that audience that will
really understand what we're doing so
that when we do start releasing
traditional narrative content books
comic books movies TV shows video games
longer term on video games that that
audience will already be built into our
community all right so our giveaway
today is an 80s movie 80s movie basket
and the sad face is because this is us
only us only because this is one that
would have to be mailed but technically
wouldn't young and reckless also be
accessory mail anyway we'll worry about
that later but the eighties movie basket
unfortunately is us only because of
horrific international shipping costs
but there are certain things that are
going to be open to everybody so all
right and we'll announce the question
later or what the question is gonna be
why don't you kick us off Christopher
what is the first movie that you want to
talk you know I'm gonna start with I
don't know if you noticed I never were
printed t-shirts as you know you know
what's weird
it hit me funny it seemed different but
I never would have said you never wear
them yeah I mean yeah it's almost next
to never we had that Star Wars
Celebration worthy yes COBOL Death Star
yes you did
of magic no I mean have nothing against
it I just don't wear them so but I'm
making an exception today and if you
notice what that says Miyagi Dell karate
yes yes the Miyagi dou dojo so those of
you who don't know this is from the
Karate Kid and we should clarify you and
I did not know the movies the other
person was gonna pull oh no this is
gonna be a complete surprise to the two
of us yeah and I can't tell you enough I
can't wait to hear what your movies are
and I'm sure there's gonna be some type
of I can die exactly but yes the Karate
Kid man let me tell you I'll begin by
saying this movie set the stage for my
love of going to movies really yeah I
was already going the movies by the time
the Karate Kid came out in 1984 but I'm
the youngest of three brothers and I've
been oldest brother who is five years
older than me and I have an Irish twin
so to speak who's a year and a half
older than me and the two of us did
everything together my oldest brother he
was big for his age so he always got to
go out beyond his years
and I remember he'd went he'd gone to
see the Karate Kid
out with some friends and he came back
and he's like oh my god you guys got to
see this movie and he dictated
everything that happened in that movie
and my brother and I Gavin the other
brother we could not wait to go see this
movie by the time we
saw it it was exactly how he said it was
gonna be and we were just beyond in love
with the film and this film because my
brother set the stage of his experience
it became like popcorn so to speak that
adventure of going to the movies and
having popcorn and having candy and
having soda and I'll never forget it
that was the beginning of the full movie
going experience for me was to this
movie now this movie how it impacted me
I got a number of reasons I mean you can
break it down and I know you could break
it down the object of rising above the
bully are rising above the naysayers and
just pushing yourself and you know
daniel-san here meets mr. Miyagi and mr.
Miyagi shows him the way of karate but
he also karate okay but he had to do I
mean he learned some lessons along the
way and we all know the the wax on and
wax off we you know the floor when he's
waxing the floor you know you learn some
lessons but to me it's just it was
rising above and overcoming your fear
and that except the stage for me right
away in my life I was like okay well if
daniel-san could overcome his fear when
he's being bullied by like six or seven
Cobra Kai guys then I can overcome my
fear and I could imagine that movie had
an effect on you too I mean if you want
to chime in on that yeah so I did this
is also one that I pulled in fact if we
can bring up the clip that I've heard
from this movie which is into we had the
entire decade of the 80s and so it's
really interesting to me and I'm curious
to see if we have more than one movie
that overlap because this is my [ __ ]
point if you intentionally set out to
make a movie like this it's really
possible this movie has echoed through
my life in a way that I can't tell you
to the point where not only did I go get
you know the headband and a book book
after book on karate and then practice
in my front yard with my friends so it
it became like so important to me this
notion of martial arts no I'm sad that I
was a kid that had a fixed mindset and
so I didn't go like officially trained
cuz I didn't want to look stupid or get
hurt but this planted a seed that it's
like
terrifying to think how much more
entrenched in a fixed mindset what I've
been without things like this that
really do become those anchor points
that later echo into a larger world and
if I had had an adult that could have
echoed something like this back and told
me like you can take this movie these
are the lessons that you should learn
from it end and really help me see
because that the my idea behind doing
impact entertainment is to show people
by the way we need a better name for
that so put names it's going to be
things like this where we're showing
clips talking about what you can learn
in real life if you have ideas for the
name we'd be all open to that we're on a
time clock so the sooner the better
that if you had you know somebody that
was really showing you how to extract
the value that wasn't brushing it off as
just entertainment that that you could
really get some momentum Oh [ __ ] I'm
going home man and your son don't your
son what come here
show me sander floor I can't move my arm
all right what are you doing
what ow
how old are you doing Oh surely sanding
the floor
how did you do that sure say the floor
stand up
show me Thunder flora Santa that Sandara
Thunder floor big sucker sander floor
sander fraud show me wax on wax off
Hey
wax on wax off next anniversary wax on
that wax off
concentrate look at my eye laka hand
thumb in stay back son
hot wax off wax on that backs off that
wax on wax off show me Pinta fence up
done up done up done other side look I
always look I saw me paint the house
sighs I
knuckle east i5z show me wax on wax off
Josh that dance that show me pin defense
catch bass back Beth
show me side of faith yes that's -
that's only son da fraud Thanks look I
always cry
come back tomorrow
[Music]
pamphlet man
[Laughter]
[Music]
we kill the clip there alright so that
even while we were watching it there it
makes me emotional got me too and when
things make you emotional it Prime's you
to remember it yeah so to give you an
idea and this is a real story we
actually got to some video I'd have to
see if I ever if I could find a copy of
it but when we started quest we were we
had to buy all this equipment and the
truck backs up we rented this or not
rented yeah we rent but least long-term
leased this facility
the equipment's backing up door drops
down and we realize nobody knows how to
drive a forklift except me and I was
like actually guys I know how to drive a
forklift
I am literally a certified forklift
driver or I was I'm sure it lapses after
a period of time and I thought we were
everyone was like oh my god what are we
gonna do and that and then I was like oh
my god wax on wax off and so I get into
the the forklift and I I pull out and I
start pulling the equipment off the
truck and I look at the camera and I go
cuz my dad always made us work right we
always had to have these stupid jobs
during the summer and I hated them so
much and my dad always told me like you
know the stuff's gonna be useful one day
if nothing else is gonna teach you that
you want to go to college and not do
manual labor and I look at the camera
and I say wax on wax off because that
like that's how this stuff sticks with
you dude that was like 30 years after
I'd seen the movie and in that moment I
realized acquiring skills man acquire
skills there's this awesome quote when
you know the way broadly you will see it
in everything when you know the way
broadly you'll see it in everything when
you're trained in all this different
stuff when you have broad knowledge all
of a sudden you find these answers
everywhere because there is a path
because you have so much knowledge I got
a [ __ ] movie about a kid in the
valley right learning karate but it's
thoughtful it's a thoughtful entertain
and this is where this movie is pure
purely entertaining right yeah millions
of people have seen this they don't
necessarily go deep so they can watch
the movie on the surface if they want to
because this is where people always go
with where we're headed with impact
theory that are people really going to
get that I don't give a [ __ ] like if
it's entertaining and it's there for the
people that want to take it and it's
there for the people that want to show
up and watch our content and it's there
for the people that are out there
creating social content right now that
need great movies that need great
entertainment to fuel their pipeline to
say cool [ __ ] about the world what you
can learn did you know that Forbes did a
whole video series on what you can learn
about leadership from Game of Thrones no
no that so I mean it's it is there man
it is there but people aren't creating
the entertainment that's thoughtful
enough for there to be anything to talk
about now that's not universal there's
some great things we're gonna be talking
later today about Game of Thrones we're
gonna show some amazing movies that did
it but it's not a surprise that at least
this one overlaps I think we there was
one that I think I ended up leaving out
I can't remember now if it made it or
not because I heard you talk about
something and I thought just in case
he's talking about that because it's one
of his movies all state government but
the fact that we like came in on the
same movies tells you there were people
that just figured it out low you know
the way to like get you emotionally make
you feel empowered and you walked away
feeling a certain way and that's my
whole thing about Disney Disney made you
feel the the magic of childhood that
like you know the the most magical place
on earth like they captured that
nostalgia for a better time and like how
you felt as kid they just nailed that
and so when you walked away from one of
their piece of entertainment you felt
good there was that hope that optimism I
think there's now an entire universe
like that to be created about
empowerment and I actually the other day
was thinking and one of my like
obsessive phases about how we build this
where we go and I was thinking I don't
think we would ever do an impact world
but it would be the most empowering
place on earth and it [ __ ] rings the
same way right we're like yes I want to
feel that way yeah so anyway that's the
the magic of this for me that moment is
real
that moment of you're learning something
and you don't understand why you're
learning it but learning and training
will come together and I mean it's funny
just a little side bar on that scene and
I'm sure this happened to every kid I
remember going home with my brother and
being like just punch me he's like what
try to punch me and I was gonna try the
wax on wax off thing on him and try to
go up and get him he just came under
yeah and punch me in the face that's
like oh my god it didn't quite work but
hey it's still stuck with me right I
remember thinking I mean just that look
on his face when he realizes wow I just
learned something right there was a
lesson here and everything in one
element before we move on to the next
movie that I wanted to mention that a
lot of people forget to talk about or
haven't talked about when they talk
about this movie I talked about him
being the underdog being bullied by
Cobra guy because that's obvious it was
on the surface but if you really look at
the movie and I'm sure he could you've
realized this also Daniel is a jerk like
beginning it like god this kids a jerk
like he's mean to his mom he's like come
on mom
I don't want to go my glasses he's just
pissed pissed off at her all the time
she's like let me see your baby Browns
leave me alone mom come on and then you
know so we all think Cobra Kai is the
jerk but Daniel was the jerk also he
picks the fight sort of at the beach
where he gets his butt kicked even when
that has when he's moved on from being
bullied he's at the party in Cobra Kai's
and their skeleton outfit and what does
he do he takes a hose and puts it on
over the Cobra Kai guys over Johnny and
sprays him and get some wet yeah he gets
his butt kicked but that's what mr.
Miyagi has to jump in and save him he
punches the guy he sucker punches a guy
on the field who kind of slide tackles
him where trips on when he's playing
soccer but Daniel throws the first punch
so the point I'm trying to make is I
think that was intentional I think it's
something that most people overlooked
because he did learn a lesson other than
learning karate in learning how to
overcome his fear he learned discipline
from mr. Meighan how to control his
temper and just how to control his
emotions and that's one thing that I got
from the film because I mean he was this
kid from Jersey and I think it was hard
for people to to notice that because you
know not to say that Ralph Macchio was a
weak kid but he kind of
like oh you know that um nice nice
nature this very calm demeanor but yeah
he kind of was a jerk so he also gained
a discipline that's actually a really
good point that that's a recurring theme
with martial arts films is to find your
humility to find the in fact I don't
want to give too much weight but I
I'll stop myself there there's another
clip that we'll get into later that will
remind me and we'll come back round to
this because it is very on theme for
right all right we have a fan question
here so Angela Manette Smith this movie
is the epitome of someone believing in
you more than you believe in yourself
how impactful is that agreed so comment
more than a question
Rosabelle Capasso loving the expressions
on their faces so enthralled after all
these years you know that's actually a
really interesting point so when when I
was watching the clip and I was going
back and looking for clips one thing
that really struck me is the filmmakers
took this film seriously and even if it
was never intended to elevate to the
form of art they take it seriously
enough that it gets there and I think
that's one of the reasons that it's
remembered and one of the things that
I'll want to be a hallmark of the stuff
that we put out is that we take it
seriously and no matter what your
material is if you take it seriously and
treat it like it's art yeah I mean you
can really do something exceptional do
you know the stories behind
risky business behind the filmmaking um
yeah I think I did kind of know at one
point but I don't know so this always
intrigued me it's very similar to what
happened with Star Wars
so with Star Wars everyone's like this
is stupid it's a kid's film but he took
it seriously it gets elevated to art
people were walking off the film saying
you know this is like crap it's the
cinematographer quit I mean it's just
people were really you need to eat your
mic a little bit more people were really
convinced that it was gonna be terrible
same with risky business so actually a
little bit different so he was shooting
it like a European art house film back
in the 80s okay which was like unheard
of for a u.s. blockbuster or not
necessarily blockbuster but for a big
u.s. film
so same thing cinematographer walks off
the films like this guy doesn't know
what he's doing this is crazy the way
setting but it's now it's remembered
because he took it so seriously he was
like I'm not gonna do your typical teen
comedy I really want there to be a
cinematic quality to this and so if we
can do that so that these escape the
fate of like becoming cheesy or trite
they need to be layered they need to be
interesting you need to like you're
pointing out Ralph Macchio you need to
deal with the other layers of emotion
it's not the perfectly good kid who
learns karate it's not the perfect bully
versus good guy like life isn't like
that so how can you be more nuanced how
can you really get people in sites like
the 8020 rule right it's not just always
be good always focus on the bright the
positive there there's a reality to be
faced and the usefulness of the dark
side and how do you tell a nuanced story
like that so that'll be our challenge
because I think one of the things that
that served the Disney was it's very
black and white
it's very good and very bad so we'll
have to be really thoughtful all right
we have another fan question here from
Carrie Gormley Tom is your long-term
plan with entertainment to include
children's preteen books so I talked
about this on Joe Rogan so he was
heckling me a little bit and basically
saying like you really think you can
impact adults with this and I asked him
like do you think this will only work
for kids because I actually have a fear
that that's who it'll most impact and
I'll be very curious to see can we reach
adults or is this gonna be my Geoffrey
Canada realization where you have to
give up on adults and you don't want to
and I think this will be like in fact
going back to talking to drama in the
last segment about you know how true do
you have to stay to a brand's mission
like when can you go off and I think you
have to stay true to the mission but the
path is is sort of irrelevant and let's
say for instance that we're putting out
this content and 1% of the adults that
watch it are impacted the way that we
want the other 99% are just going to buy
it but it's wildly successful
entertainment I would keep doing it
because that's an example of it's still
on brand it's still
doing what I wanted to do it's just not
hitting the scale that I want now I
would start leveraging the financial
success of that to find other ways that
we can actually pull more people out of
the matrix but in business you've got to
move from strength to strength yeah
so if we had something that was winning
in one way and I felt good about what
the content said but it wasn't
necessarily pulling as many people out
as we wanted I would keep doing that so
that's pretty interesting but yes I
think children's stuff is is the one
thing that I know is a guaranteed
because I think they're a much easier
based on where their brain is in the
development cycle based on where their
belief system is and the development
cycle I think they're much easier to
impact so there are for sure I'm curious
to know what your alright movie so well
my next one why don't we pull up the one
that I was going to allude to anyway can
you pull up no retreat no surrender
yeah the surrender man yeah I haven't
thought of in years
since a li li Dargo you call me shall I
begin begin begin what your training you
asked me to help I'm ready I have
studied a little man and I I know you
can't do better utilize what's up here
as your way that's how you win
come over here
[Music]
it's your beginning you must be like -
so we called martial arts the character
is made up of 4 which means violence of
force plus discourtesy meaning stop we
practice how to stop violence what you
learned from me is for defense only and
should not be misused that's the idea
it's your move you don't want to listen
then bye
I don't wish revenge I always want to
learn you and he the cup first
[Music]
this cup as you represents your
knowledge this cup is what I offer the
cup of my knowledge is more than your
cup holds no heat again
[Music]
the cup now is clean you understand yes
I'll get in the stance punch and power
punch no this hand no power now get here
[Applause]
stand up what was the mistake
punch wasn't fast enough easy to defend
against are you asking or telling me now
say that to me again
not fast enough easy to defend against
how so me where to improve it show you
listen to the war inside move in our
counter thing of your technique it's
straight now my journey is a long move
see wishes first again I know why you've
been getting hit no leader guy you live
with the soda and when you saw the moves
I see it
you'd be quick and direct utilizing Chi
the result its power you suffer alright
so that the reason that I put that movie
in is that despite its atrocious quality
from a filmic standpoint it's really
about philosophy and there's actually
some really deep stuff if you start
really listening to what they're saying
so the first part is the definition of
martial arts is being to stop violence
so the breakdown of the actual Chinese
characters for violence and stop and
going back to your point about the
Karate Kid where it was that right
Daniel learning to control his emotions
Daniel learning to not start the fight
oh yeah and really finding
to control that to channel that energy
into a useful fashion was something that
and I'm surprised like this I would have
been young when I saw this and it really
really resonated with me man you know
it's funny because we talked about this
before if you were a boy in the 80s you
loved martial arts films you loved ninja
films I'm anything of the sort Chuck
Norris films whatever and I think the
industry knew that they were clearly
we're aware if you watch our look back
at any of the 80s like a lineup of films
that came out specially the action films
I would safely say most of the action
films if they weren't some type of war
film obviously it was a ninja a karate
film whether it was mainstream or
underground but they all had those
themes even though it was just pure
adrenaline and entertainment if you
really paid attention they all had those
themes that you mentioned every single
one of them and even alluded to it
earlier that it was always about that
character learning discipline and having
the lesson and and I think it introduced
a whole big generation of folks in the
martial arts because of course the 70s
had the Bruce Lee films and the 70s had
the blaxploitation films which it just
so happened that a dude in Harlem new
martial arts which I loved which is
amazing but III think it's safe to say
that in the eighties so many people took
up karate because of all the films that
you know Hollywood was spitting out that
had ninja and martial arts things and
the theme of overcoming fear and you
know in gaining discipline I actually
when Karate Kid came out it would came
out in 84 and I ended up moving towards
the end of the year in 84 to Japan
I'd already lived in Japan for three
years and I was living there in an
additional three years when I moved
there and I remember I took karate very
short lived as a karate and I remember
the sensei there was Japanese and there
were a couple other guys adults in the
class who were Japanese and they took it
obviously very seriously and I I just I
didn't have the discipline for it and I
kind of look back and wish I didn't drop
that drop down but I just got my butt
kicked every day but I clearly at the
time wasn't primed for that discipline
but I got there eventually
yeah that what's interesting is so you
watch these movies and they then have an
in real life correlate for you the same
is true for me so I was obsessed with
Steven Seagal movies obsessed and when I
moved to LA finally there were Aikido
classes we always his thing about
martial arts and it's interesting
because so what I loved about that clip
in a stayed with me all these years was
that whole its violence and stop put
together right and that martial arts is
really about standing up for yourself I
think we maybe turn that down a smidge
and I really resonated with that and the
thing about Aikido is it's about using
your opponent's aggression against them
so it was never about starting something
that was something I loved like with I
think the character's name is Niko
Toscani
and he does is saying where he's like
breaking up a robbery which man in those
movies is like always the most
ridiculous minute to get in there's a
crazy fight yes but there was a one in
like the grocery store or whatever and
the guys like I'm gonna cut your heart
out man and he gets on his knees and
he's like come on right is so awesome
and then he just dismantled these guys
but he always puts himself in like a
weakened position mhm and it uses their
aggression against him and I loved that
because I was not a kid that just wanted
to fight I wasn't that kid yeah there
are some kids that like they loved
fighting I didn't so being in a position
where you could defend yourself if
somebody like came and attacked you that
that really appealed to me and so then I
started taking Aikido lessons and the
catch was man like you I tried some of
it in real life and it never worked and
because I'd be like like oh let me show
you this wrist lock so you would just
flip them right yeah I'm strong but
exactly so that's what's fascinated me
about the MMA movement because that [ __ ]
has to be real oh yeah so there
certainly is like a real corollary at
the end of that rainbow there is a
training style that really works
unfortunately I didn't find it and like
you at the time I just didn't have the
discipline for it yeah but it was so
interesting to see how this stuff really
like got into a deep part of my
consciousness led me to do things in
real life and I think had I had
something like this where people that I
respected were breaking it down and
explaining to me how to use it we're
also giving me other elements like
discipline and how to think and build a
mindset that it might have turned out
very different all right we have a
question from the audience which is not
I feel serene okay put the red light on
the red light means question is it all a
big lie all right here we go so giveaway
question what day and year did Marty
McFly go back in time to what day in
question well what day and year did
Marty McFly go back in time - so can you
end the sentence with no that's the
preposition that's you can't innocence a
preposition but we hopefully understand
he sets the clock and goes to a
particular date what date is it what
date is it all right we have is this
mom's I guess there is move on to this
film Back to the Future let me tell you
about Batson feature that is my favorite
film of all time
people always pose the question what's
your favorite film of all time if you
ask most of the people most people will
always say oh my god it's a tough one
won't film industry flat say I can't
choose people always say that I mean you
can't choosers look at abhi 100% yes and
this one stands out for me now I was
already in full gear with going to the
go to the movies and enjoying the
experience when this film came out let
me tell you it blew my mind I was
already in love with the narrative of
time travel already had seen the time
machine and any other time trail saw the
time machine that's a movie machine yeah
they have a movie version yeah that HD
is a chi well yeah so yeah ever since -
now they even have enough to read did it
yes exactly yeah
yeah it was fantastic and and I loved it
at the time I loved it but then this
came along and it gave this feeling of
it made it relative and to me it was
brilliant because it took the you know
the popular notion of time traveling and
made it very relative because all the
other previous time-traveling stories
were about how you can affect the world
the butterfly effect or how you can just
go get from A to B and get back to a but
this movie not only was the main
character Monty McFly was his life
affected by going back in time he runs
dead smack into his a pick his parents
his mom and that's not his mom but you
know yeah so he runs into his mom and
that only does he run into his mom his
mom falls in love with him and not only
does his mom fall in love with him his
existence will never happen if he can't
keep his mom from Vong love of them
because he has to get his father to take
her to the dance but he can't get his
father to take it to the dance because
his father is a wimp and he doesn't even
want to ask her out and he's getting
bullied by Beth and so on so there's so
many themes in there first of all I'm
getting into filmmaking theory now but
just there are so many themes though
that I absolutely love that the theme of
continuity the continuity in this film
is superb if you ever get a chance to
break down the continuity take a look so
many minor details in the film can you
give us an example
oh god I'm sure some people know you
mean by continuity okay well I mean
people who are not watching continuity
it's basically stream streamlining the
script and making sure everything is in
place nothing is out of sorts you don't
look back and think like okay how could
that have happened
you're gonna mean but instead constantly
connects the dots and it connects the
dots so finally what's the name of the
guy that he says oh you should run for
mayor one day or your mayor Cody Wilson
isn't he like in the present day his it
drives by and he's campaigning or
something a minor detail you hear
they're like
the call and the horns and this car goes
by and you just see like almost like a
flyer a poster on the side of a car Mary
Gaudi Wilson and then this woman says
something about the election then they
go back and he sees this guy is sweeping
the floor and he sees him and he goes
that's right you're gonna run for mayor
and he goes I mean it stuff like that
but I mean but little minor details and
they just go on and on and with just the
story itself about again it goes back to
overcoming fear how Marti teaches his
dad overcome fear of course the typical
rite of passage is your father teaches
you how to overcome fear or how to be a
man so to speak but in this case the son
is doing it to the father and their
peers on this stage because they're the
same age and that element to me just
blew my mind so it managed to be a movie
about time travel but they created this
just amazing story of Family and
belonging and overcoming the bully if
you can see there's a big theme of
overcoming a bully in all my movies I
really think that's all my movies
involve a bully but I can go on and off
but I before I go too far I wanted to
get your take on yeah it's well one I
love the movie and definitely think that
there's some incredible themes of
empowerment with like you said the the
father learning to stand up for himself
and to what you alluded to earlier the
reason I think that's so powerful in
this movie is that it has a massive
knock-on effect so normally in a movie
you don't as a screenwriter you can't
really take the time to show how that
echoes but this without having to you
know belabor the point you get to see
that in learning to stand up for himself
his entire world reverses and by gaining
confidence and having that moment of
standing down the bully that now he's in
just a dramatically different position
emotionally financially like everything
so yeah I love that absolutely and you
know I'm gonna move on from this movie
because there's so many of the movies I
want to get to and I know there are
movies you want to get to yes I'm a few
in a skip by this even though it's my
favorite of all time curious to see what
your next film is all right why don't we
just for
eze you guys can pull up I guess the one
that you tried to put up was rad so why
don't we go with Brad yes so for those
who don't know while we get that answer
before we played the clip rad is a movie
about BMX bikes and I was obsessed as a
kid with two things ninjas and BMX I was
just gonna say if you're a boy a tease
you loved two things ninjas and be males
for sure and this movie if I'm not
mistaken the directors like Hal Needham
and he'd done like a bunch of like big
sort of landmark movies so him to turn
his attention to BMX I think probably at
the time was a little like what the hell
is he doing it did not do well at the
box office but ends up getting this
massive cult following in VHS it had
really pretty universal appeal the
reason I've seen this movie so many
times is it was the only movie that my
sister and I could agree on so when we
were at the video store and there wasn't
something new out that you know
everybody wanted to see because we
hadn't seen it the one thing that we had
seen that we could agree on was rad and
so this led to me really getting into
not BMX because technically I was into
freestyle which rather was a highly
featured in this movie yeah what are you
nuts
[Applause]
you over-rotated no [ __ ] all right I
spent over an hour trying to find like
that whole sequence because this is the
cecum set really stuck with me and the
reason that this sequence stuck with me
so much is it's one where he's learning
to do the back flip which now with the X
Games and stuff doesn't seem like that
impressive yeah yeah that seems so
impossible to see him practice because
everything else in the movie he's
already good at yeah so you come into
the movie and he's good he's good it's
good it's just that nobody believes in
him so now he has to prove how good he
is but then you get into the middle part
of the movie and it gets to the point
where now to win he's gotta like up his
game and that's where it really got me
is when you get not only are they the
underdog but they have to do something
to become the worthy underdog and that
is that is a [ __ ] thing like if that
is a theme that people recognize in my
life this obsession with gaining skills
getting better at something practice
being able to improve like that is like
this is my jam and so this was one of
those things that when I realized okay
I've failed as a filmmaker because I see
myself as being either inherently
talented or not this is one of those
things that like comes back right yeah
and it's like wait like crew and to show
you how obsessed I was with this movie
so the lead character's name is Kru have
no idea why but today we are you and I
when I thought it was gonna have kids I
was naming my son crew that was like
that's the degree to which I was
obsessed with this and literally at one
that was the first name that I threw out
to Lisa and we shut it down but like my
whole life I thought I was gonna name my
son
that's how into this movie I'll be may I
set up a ramp and try to jump my BMX all
the time and I would think I would get
so high off the ground but it was
probably just two feet off the ground I
couldn't get up there I didn't know how
to hike my butt my butt my bike up once
I got off the air
it was terrible was absolutely terrible
yeah that's that's a great choice it was
a big movie and so this clip is you see
him practicing getting hurt like he's
doing it over and over so at first he
under rotates and then he is right and
that line is you know one of the most
famous lines and I show that to my wife
and she was like no [ __ ] is one of the
most famous lines of movie I said well
in context the first thing you
over-rotated and then he goes no [ __ ] so
yeah amazing to see that practice and
rad is short for radical if I'm correct
right yeah isn't it funny that people
actually used to say that dude all the
time that's radical is crazy and I would
say even more people said rad that's so
rad that's the funny thing is yeah
people still say rap but I wonder if
radical is ever gonna come back that's a
fool right I wonder if that may come
back I bet it does I think really
another went on record and stand it's
gonna come back you plant that flag yeah
I'm gonna try to bring it back all right
what what's the next for me I'm gonna do
I'm gonna skip to if it's not next on my
original list it's gonna be a one-two
punch so to speak I could not get
through this without mention in Rocky 3
and rocky 4 okay there is no way I can
get their lists about 80s films when
that talk without talking about Rocky 3
rocky for Rocky 3 to me was as someone
it's not mister is mr. t 2 or 3 3 ok
clubber Lang clubber lang
man there's so many things about that
film first of all clubber Lang terrified
me terrified me mr. t for you oh my god
mr. t those of you know mr. t of course
he was in the 80s real some people on
this feed may not even know who mr. yeah
mr. t you speak of but yes he terrified
me with you know with this mohawk and he
was a mean opponent opponent because of
course Apollo Creed before it was
debonair and he was joking and there was
a bit of finesse to him but clubber Lang
was just pure anger didn't even have a
train in the squad he just trained
himself but there's so many elements
about that film I guess the first one
I'll get to with rocky 3 is losing your
way in finding your way back so those of
you don't know this
dori of rocky rocky going back to Rocky
one and to which those films are in the
70s on a little side note the first
rocky came out the day I was born
really it premiered the day I was born
well first rocky came out November 21st
1976 yeah and but just another thing I'm
gonna throw in I love that we have this
shared love for 80s films because we're
both Bicentennial babies Tom and I were
both born in 1976 so I guess we were
right at the prime age of loving these
movies in the 80s yeah but yeah in Rocky
3mn the race I was challenging everyone
to a race after this after this scene
but rocky lost his way because he was an
underdog in the first rocky and he got
his shot at the title and he doesn't win
Apollo beats him but he he goes the
distance so to speak even the theme song
is going to miss Lynch an awesome choice
for a mainstream Hollywood film he
doesn't win dude yeah he loses in yeah
loses in the end but he goes the
distance and of course in the second one
he gets a rematch with Apollo Creed
everyone around Apollo says do not fight
this guy again because I saw a beast in
the ring he will kill you and of course
rocky wins in the second one so Rocky
becomes the heavyweight champion the
underdog through two movies becomes a
heavyweight champion so we begin Rocky
III was shown that this guy's not only a
champion he's just slaughtering all his
opponents and owned as he saw during all
his opponents he's rich now he has the
big house he has the nice car the robot
represent as a robot that like really
hit me yeah my god everything is going
well for him he's on a motorcycle you
know I mean and I have a tiger by
survivor as playing until this day that
saw him pump me up dude let's go son
yeah but he loses his way that's rocky
for which I'll get to in a second but he
loses his way but he has to get back and
he loses to clubber lang clubber Lang
knocks him out and then Mickey admits to
him like everyone you've been fighting
you know I wanted to keep you safe in
the ring finals get busted up in the
ring it's there's no longevity to it
you've been fighting losers for the most
part you fight you're finally fighting a
worthy apartment opponent and you lose
so he asked to get that strength back
and there's a scene on the beach
after the first race with Apollo Apollo
is running in the rocky slow and Impala
saying man what's wrong with you man
what's wrong there is no tomorrow there
is no tomorrow and I remember one time
my friend Rosenbaum and I were sitting
in his trailer watching up in Vancouver
I was visiting him once said and he had
a guy do a scene afterwards and they
were going to come and get him whoever
comes and get the actors I don't know
who does that and we're we just were
playing football with the extras so I
had taken a shower and then he had taken
a shower not together and we're sitting
in the trailer wet and in our towel was
watching the scene of rocky tellin
Adrian that he's afraid I'm afraid is
that what you want to hear cuz she's
saying what's wrong with you why aren't
you practicing why can't you get your
head in the game because I'm afraid all
right beside you out of here I'm afraid
and we were like crying in our towels
and then they came - get him - get him
on set and we're just sitting there
bawling our eyes out it was I mean that
scene ours resonated with me but it's
the first time that it hit me so hard
here's this grown man his grown ass man
admitting to his wife that he's afraid
and I remember at that moment I was like
oh my god I can't wait till I'm married
and I can't wait till I'm able to talk
about my fears with my wife whoa that
moment I cannot wait to just drop that
masculinity and talk about my fear again
I'm a crier I'm a born cry and it's like
my wife knows that and I'm glad that I
can open myself up that scene it's like
for anyone who knows that scene I know
you know it look at it a different way
and understand you can drop the
masculinity you could drop it so way
deeper than I was expecting that tell me
what thatis that whole movie but that
scene for sure and the shorts everything
about it I love so yeah so and then
rocky 4 same deal like Apollo gets
killed and he has to fight even an even
scarier opponent someone who kills your
friend in the ring and just to save face
it's the height of the Cold War of
course we were as Americans got there's
so many things in films there was like
oh we're Americans you know we got to
fight the Russians and they did it with
rocky 4 but hey that's what marketing is
you know but um but it worked for me at
the time I was living in Japan when
rocky 4 came out
and there was always the threat of the
Cold War we're in striking distance cuz
I was on military bases in Japan and I
was like oh my god they're gonna kill us
how do you get back with them
we beat Ivan Drago I'm telling you I
just loved everything about it like so a
guy who kills your friend you have to go
in a ring and take him on and it's just
there's so much might behind that I have
a not mild obsession with revenge films
and this is something that I have to
reconcile with impact theory and I've
thought like how do we handle this
do we literally bifurcate our company
into the 80/20 rule so 80% of it is
beautiful things you're moving towards
grateful all that and then we literally
make 20% movies that are like revenge
oriented I don't know man I actually
don't have the answer yeah but I would
be lying if I said that like revenge was
not a thing for me it is very much a
thing for me and revenge is at the heart
of the the net and we'll talk about it
after this but revenge is at the heart
of one of the films that I'm going to
talk about and it was secretly at the
heart of no retreat no surrender
I knew bring it up so no retreat no
surrender he kills his brother right
yeah and so he goes crazy my favorite
set up to a Steven Seagal film is hard
to kill where they kill his whole family
oh and then the rest of the movie is
laid-back like a mofo dude it resonates
man it resonates and I don't know what
you do with that because I want to give
people a certain feeling at the end of
our content right you have to feel a
certain way the most empowering place on
earth so I don't know I don't know if
there's room for darkness in that so I
really do that but God revenge like it
does it for me man I love a revenge from
love and rocky 4 was on my list oh god I
can't remember I think in fact can I um
ask if I can get a yes or no from
whoever has hooked up to walkie talkie
did a rocky 4 clip make it into my thing
I don't think it did I think it was it
was too hard to find like a single
moment okay so the only thing you could
really do is play the montage where he's
working out and I suppose like the high
tech
low tech and the Casio yeah but this
movie was one of those like hyper
impactful movies for me why is this one
so big for you I'm telling you just I
mean so much so many elements so many
elements again I mean it's pushing
revenge yes because we all love a good
revenge from and just pushing yourself
and I mean in in getting creative so to
speak because he gets to Russia and of
course they don't give him the
facilities to work at it he's used to
working out in these great facilities
again Rocky's become rich and he has
access to the facilities to work out but
he gets there and they put him in a
cabin in the snow and he has to get
creative and say okay I'm gonna take
this guy on I'm just gonna have to work
out as rugged as I can it was the Tough
Mudder before Tough Mudder right Rocky
is running through the snow a lot of KGB
for some reason is following him in the
car and he's like you know I'm gonna
take up off the mountain up the mountain
and run through snow I'm gonna go on a
barn and friggin hang from some type of
slat and he do sit-ups like this while
someone is smacking my stomach I mean he
just went rugged and I remember like I
was already in the fitness I was already
into you know feeling good not actually
looking good because I wasn't trying too
hard but I have to see Iraqi for and
seeing him rugged you know I just
remember thinking I can create a home
gym until this day you know anyone who
knows me knows that I do not mess with
gyms I do not I'm a germaphobe so you
wouldn't see you wouldn't catch me dead
if you saw me in a gym just know it's a
bodies bodies net like in at impact
theory we have like a whole list of
things if you see dr. finesse doing he
has officially been body-snatched
being in the gym is one of us course
bars sports bars and no but you love
sports not words but I don't like sports
bars but yeah it's the germ thing but to
this day everything I do when I workout
is in my home I do a home gym one of my
friends always laughs about my home gym
so I just taught me discipline to with
just working out and being rugged how
about you so what I love about this is
the DIY DIY DIY attitude where it's like
he's got the super high tech and so put
me in context right I'm a kids from
Tacoma I don't have access to all this
cool stuff
I fantasize about being a part of a big
city I am in absolute terror of the Cold
War and for kids me I don't think they
realize doing the 80s that she was
terrified I was and I remember
thankfully that the only thing that gave
me any solace and this is kind of scary
the only thing that gave me any solace
was the notion of mutually assured
destruction and so that concept
resonated with me I thought well we've
got the time right well their missiles
are coming to fire back yeah and here's
another one that I had on my list that I
just couldn't find that clip that really
explained a guy yeah
Red Dawn no okay but [ __ ] you're so
right but that one back then scared the
life out of me
so it was the only movie ever that I had
to leave so we were watching it on VHS
and remind me to come back to what it
was so watching it on VHS and probably
about 20 minutes into the movie
everyone's getting slaughtered and like
this just town right they just show up
you're sitting in class and they start
paratrooper in the town in water no but
it looked like okay maybe it was I don't
know I guess hey long enough to find out
I don't think so though and everyone's
just getting slaughtered and my dad
looks over at me and sees the look of
like horror on my face and he was like
you can leave if you need to alright
without further ado --xs I know we're a
little bit over time dr. finesse thank
you so much for joining us it was
amazing have you looking forward to
impact entertainment ent hey whatever
else title yeah we're gonna come up with
a better name for that so please let us
know what you think we should be calling
that all right Thank You Man thanks Tom
absolutely thank you
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