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hTa1HzI4228 • Motivation or Garbage? An Impact Theory Original Game Show
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Kind: captions Language: en welcome everyone to motivation or Garbage the soon to be viral hit show coming to you from the impact Theory studios in Los Angeles I'm your host agent Smith and this is the show in which two players face off as we Plum the depths of The Human Experience by looking at phenomena around the world and asking one big important question motivation or Garbage nice why do we do this because we have nothing better to do and because we have we and over 18 million other people on Facebook were inspired by a little clip called motivation is garbage which was taken from an episode of impact Theory recorded in this very studio and if you've seen that video you'll certainly remember our contestants so let's meet them now contestant number one inspires and educates large audiences the world over as a speaker writer and commentator she's the author of The book's the 5-sec rule and stop saying you're fine a contributing editor for Success magazine an impact Theory Alum a foot we fashionista ladies and Gentlemen please give a warm welcome for Mel don't call me motivational Robin yes you're going down wow that escalated quickly contestant number two is a Serial entrepreneur the co-founder of Quest Nutrition and the former king of remedial jobs he's a self-described brain fanatic who hates working out even though he does it religiously ladies and gentlemen the man who used to stand outside of Cheesecake Factory on Saturday mornings waiting for it to open the White Rabbit himself and your host of impact Theory Tacoma's finest Mr Tom Bilu [Applause] yay that was amazing that was the best intro I've ever heard that was pretty good all right one quick announcement the T beat the hair though so White Rabbit you better watch out the turtles all right easy contestants Mel will be doing a live cast with Success Magazine from this studio and just a few hours so be sure to check it out she's going to show you how to build the life of your design and use the tool to of confidence courage and Clarity to make it happen tune in at 5:00 p.m. Pacific Daylight time go to success.com impact we'll drop the link in the comments all right here's how to play the game it's very simple I'll present a topic and each contestant will hold up a card showing motivation or Garbage then each player will follow up explaining their responses now for those of you watching at home you too can play along by sharing your answers to each question in the comments we'll be giving away prizes along the way plus if you write in your own top I that you want the contestants to respond to put it in the comments and the one with the most likes by the end of the show will be chosen for the final question and you will win our grand prize featuring 25 books from Tom's reading list plus a sign copy of Mel's smashbook the 5 second rule two impact Theory t-shirts one for you and your boo a 15minute call with Tom Bilu and a one-year audible subscription so you can level up your life so get those creative juices flowing and start submitting your topics now now are the contestants ready I want to know what I win when I beat Tom we'll we'll we'll have a great priz ready for play all right then all right let's get started with our first topic Dwayne The Rock Johnson All Right contestants get your get your cards ready how do we do this and on three reveal your answer motivation all right we'll start with contestant number one Mel Robbins why is the rock motivating to you um well if I have my facts straight which is questionable um uh he was once homeless and he came from literally the bottom in terms of hitting rock bottom and clawed his way out and followed his passion and I also love the fact that the Fast and Furious movie franchise was something that everybody kind of snubbed their nose at and laughed at and now they're laughing all the way to the bank by following their intuition and I also love the fact that he said even though Tom doesn't want to talk politics he did float an idea out there that he might just run for president go rock motivation we love it motivating Tom what do you think um to me anybody that can do what he's done to his physique is utterly astonishing that kind of physical transformation comes with a mental transformation so my boy forey gets motivation all right two motivations for the rock let's go to our next and by the way if he runs for president I'll vote no question there we have it there we go let's go for the next topic and it is the concept of no days off All Right contestants get your responses ready all right and Tom let's start with you on this one he's giving him motivation yeah is it true that you need days off yes occasionally um but to make it something that you celebrate I think is a mistake I think people should be going literally as hard as they can trust yourself if you're screaming for a day off take one um but as like a standing thing I think it's okay not to all right and it's inspiring in fact all right now would I think it's Insanity the science is against it and it's complete and utter garbage uh I was just with brandan brashard and the guy said on stage that he takes 17 weeks off a year and it was the first time in a while that I've been really jealous of a dude and I thought there is something wrong here because I have been working too hard I'm running two companies and and and I'm I got three my husband and I have three kids and and you one of the things that has really struck me as an entrepreneur is that without the downtime without the ability to take a day off from the grind the push the stress the move the push the build the drive you do not have the ability to reset your brain you don't have the ability to do the productive kind of procrastination on ideas that you're noodling and so I think it's really critical for your success to be intentional intentional about taking time off whatever that means for you I've actually wiped out the whole summer I'm doing four speeches this summer that's it because I haven't had the ability to focus on Creative projects because I have no time off so I think it's complete garbage complete all right there you go difference of opinion all right let's move on to our third topic money contestants get your responses ready and what do we got two motivating let's start with Mel um you know I'm just really motivated by money not not that that's the number one driver but it's a such a fun game and it's to me I just have a lot of fun making a lot of money however all of the research shows that most of us are not intrinsically motivated by money that's really not the reason why I do what I do I do what I do because I love um connecting with people I love the moment that people have an Awakening but the idea that I can make money lots of money doing the things that I love and provide for my family that is so motivating to me but if I hated what I was doing money alone wouldn't be a motivator but yes very motivating it's a great answer Tom what do you think um I pretty famously chase money for a long time only to come up emotionally empty so I can say having been on both sides of the equation that people will forever chase money because money is real once you understand what you want to do with the money it's no longer just an inert lump of cash which can do about one thing and that's release heat energy which if you light it on fire will keep you nice and warm um but really truly the things that the grandest things that we're going to do as a society or even as an individual are going to need resources so you're either going to be asking for them from somebody else or you're going to be accumulating those resources yourself but at the end of the day you need that and if you've read the book the rational Optimist by Matt Ridley he talks about specialization and how basically Society is ever going to move forward towards specializing and once you specialize you need some sort of economic vehicle to make that happen uh we're not trading seashells the thing that we've decided to trade is money um so there is tremendous tremendous power to money because of its ability to facilitate so I think when people Lament The Emptiness of money it's because they don't know what they're trying to do with it I'm shocked that you said this really well I'm shocked because I've heard you say that that you I I I can't remember the exact sentence that you say but i' I've seen you say it online I've seen you say it on a stage and it has it was something about the fact that that money isn't what's important to you and so I find it really interesting maybe it was when I I don't remember the the exact part of the story but I I'm very surprised to hear you say that it's motivation I expected you to say it's complete another garbage because I also know you're the kind of guy that is truly following your heart and throwing your hat over the ring so anyway just got to throw that out there yeah love it let's move on to our fourth how are we scoring this by the way it the points are made up the rules don't matter so yeah there we have it okay we got some Applause welome everyone all right number four Millennials Millennials okay give you a second to think about it and answers all right uh-oh we have a split decision here well let's start with Tom and then we'll get to you Mel um I at the end of the day it's a large group of people and anytime you're getting a large group of people together you can Count Me In there's going to be an endless number of Fascinating People um I don't Subs like I am of the goggin philosophy of tough and the [ __ ] up buttercup like that at the end of the day like that's where I'm at what is that from what is gogin Goin go what is that I don't know what that is what is the goggin goow a brief tangent here nice goggin was our most recent episode of impact Theory just dropped yesterday in fact today today see now I have I was on a plane so I'm sorry they didn't have tot totally get a pass but he's a Navy Seals from the book living with a seal He is unbelievable this guy is is literally like my hero I want to be this guy when I grow up he's absolutely please don't cuz we need you Tom we need you to be you if if I could be gogin at least briefly that would be deeply emotionally satisfying so anyway he is he is looking for people to really step up and toughen up and I think I'm a huge huge huge proponent of that having said that like having worked with as Millen many Millennials as I have like anything there's just an incredible number of awesome people in there so um yeah as as any huge swath of people get my thumbs up um well I kind of had a split decision because on one hand there are aspects to the way that Millennials get typ cast that I find really exciting as an entrepreneur and you know the ability to really figure things out professional googlers super techsavvy uh in in a in a good way being self-driven and and understanding the importance that an individual uh can make and an opinion that you can have and that's something that a lot of generations it wasn't instilled in us because we were not uh raised with social media and so at the age of 18 I didn't have a platform to broadcast myself unless I was standing on a table drunk at Dartmouth screaming you know something like that or arguing with my mother at the kitchen table so there's a there's psychological shift that I really love the reason why I said garbage though is because I'm torn because I think whenever you take a large group of people like Tom was saying and you typ cast them and now you got all these people going out into the workforce saying oh I'm going to tell you how to talk to Millennials and and I think human beings at the end of the day are human beings and maybe some of the characteristics that that millennial s get trashed for whether it's the self-centeredness or the inability to be managed or thinking you're going to be CEO the second you graduate from college those things tend to get magnified as general General is that even a word you know thank you um and so I hate that aspect because what we're seeing in Millennials is that they've just given themselves permission to really bring the things that we all want which is recognition and feeling a sense of importance and wanting to make a contribution they have the they they've been raised in a environment where that has been brought to the surface and for your elders like myself I'm not going to necessarily lank yank you into this because you look like you're 30 but we were I was not raised that way and so it was a learn skill so I don't like typ casting everybody but there are attributes that Millennials have that I love so I don't know now you know what it's like to be almost 50 and menopausal completely confusing all right great answer know what it's like to be menopausal but you know I appreciate that all right let's move on to our next topic for this one we're going to be giving away a copy of the 5sec rule Mel Robins book so if you participate and put your answer in the comments we will choose a winner at the end so contestants answers and oh is that the that's the is the it's garbage man this was a complete gimmick that I created in order to try to to get rich because I'm motivated by money smart that's what that was right it's good strategy how'd it work um it's been fantastic actually it's been really incredible not I mean just because of the difference that it's making for people it's been beyond my wildest dreams frankly really cool excellent Tom what do you think I'll be really honest when I first heard the idea I didn't think it was like a get rich quick scheme but it did seem too easy and I was like oh God like when they were pitching you I was like is it really like enough meat on that bone the response that we've gotten from people who are like this has changed my life it it's just undeniable like people can say whatever they want but we alone have had hundreds and hundreds of comments of people saying like this changed my life it's crazy you know the thing and that was a joke obviously what I was saying but so the hardest thing for me because like you I'm so interested in science and as much as I joke around I'm also a nerdy kind of serious person so when I came up with a concept that's so stupid sounding it was a little weird to talk about it because I'm basically saying you can change your life in 5 seconds no really and know it's not the same as just do it it's actually a tool and there's science behind it so it it's on its face it sounds like the dumbest Concept in the world but when you get somebody to try it and they instantly start breaking the habit of procrastination it's just like motivation or anything you're on a fast right now and so you could tell somebody go on the is it keto is that how you say that keto keto keto is that how you say it keto yeah keto diet yes I don't know what the keto diet is but I know that you're on it right now and I saw that you were eating some sort of uh the how do you say that shav lamb stuff that you're eating that was not that was technically a cheat by the way I didn't eat well so that was going into the the the fasting period so during a fast is water only but you're so you're on water only I better win cuz you you're basically delusional at the moment right so um when when you give somebody a a formula to follow even if it sounds simple like yeah go on a fast it'll cleanse your body you'll be like yeah that sounds whatever you actually Implement something that sounds simple you realize that holy cow these simple Concepts work they really do we over complicate everything meditation another another practice that you have that you're adamant about it's really simple most people don't do it but it really works and I think that some of the most powerful things in life are the simplest things I mean I think we all know that if we were just a little bit more kind to people particularly our spouses your marriage would be better I think we know that the more you cheer for people you you 100% like that's the only management philosophy you need cheer for people that's it assume good attention that's all you need to know and if you put that simple idea into practice Yeah lotss of Harvard scientists will write about why and there'll be bestsellers that have written about it but it it does come down to the smallest stuff that we don't do and so this is one of these ideas that making 5-second decisions I think we all know we overthink and I think we all know that we have these moments of intense wisdom and yet within 5 seconds flat our minds talk us out of it and so I'm trying I'm desperately trying to teach as many people as possible that every every single change comes down to a 5-second decision and that you can change everything and that as resigned as you are or as defeated as you are or as tired as you are the answer really is do what you say you're going to do if your wisdom speaks and you start to talk just 543 2 1 and push yourself if you can find power in that tiny moment you will win every single time and slowly your life will start to change nice well said There It Is it Is Well earned Applause I think go check out the book and do we have a winner from the comments anyone judges we do have a winner that would be Sandra Sandra signed that book for you Sandra you've won a copy of the 5sec rule congratulations let's keep it going here oh my God we got more we got more aesome we have more number six kicks and I did not wear mine today all right still a what do we got here what are our answers motivation we're to alike Tom tell us about kicks to me it's you know a nice simple question of personal expression and uh you I I actually really get into collecting which is probably bad but from comic books to kicks like I really enjoy that process so yeah finding uh some cool kicks and having something to set your sights on and go for it you you know it's it's motivating to me and you know both Tom and I share an affinity for shoes we have different taste in shoes I haven't seen you in glitter ones yet but you have worn some some with spikes you have worn some with spikes um what's interesting as a woman is that when you take ownership over kind of how you want to present yourself that is motivating and powerful and you demonstrate something and one of the interesting thing is things about um just the fact that I tend to wear a lot of high tops on stage nine times out of 10 nine times out of 10 when somebody says something nasty it's usually somebody complaining about the sneakers really yes that a woman shouldn't dress like that and so I find it very motivating to make personal choices about how you want to present yourself so that it demonstrates who you are and for me that's about authenticity approachability a sense of fun and you know that kind of thing and so a surprise and so that um it's really interesting it never fails never fails at all by that it's great all right let's move on a woman okay none of the none of the women here are shocked by that yes it's Madness let's move on to our next topic suffering and pain with by the way that's David of David gogins all right really the legend how old is he Goins uh I'm going to guess mid-40s sounds about right all right contestants what do we got here uffing in pain motivating or garbage I don't know where the strong response from Tom B huge I think I have to just go and like not do the same as you all right Mel we have here let's let's have you start it off why is suffering and pain garbage um because we spend too much time there too many of us have a habit of dwelling uh in self-inflicted suffering and it is garbage you don't have to all right great Tom what do you think I think that you only meet yourself in suffering and while I understand what you're saying about the way that people will get themselves in a Twist mentally and that's super counterproductive um I think we spend our entire lives moving away from suffering and once you're able to put yourself into self-inflicted suffering like a fast um you really or working out or running doing a [ __ ] Marathon like whatever it is like in those moments you really realize who you are and you realize how close your boundaries and your limitations and where you tap out are like I can't tell you the number of people that like started the fast until they got hungry and then they're like you know back channeling dming me like what do I do to actually get to the other side and the answer is not tolerate that [ __ ] from yourself like literally not tolerate it and that's the answer to have a hard fast bright line about who you are what you're willing to tolerate from yourself but you don't know that easy to say until you have to put it to the test and then it's like who are you really that's suffering baby there we well see I think there's a difference that see you're in the goggin high right now plus you haven't eaten in two days am I not like this all the time though like this you are pretty intense that is true that is true but but so there but see I think you're talking about intentional suffering versus the unintentional self-imposed suffering now let's yes if you want to get really complicated let's take when you were obese okay so what category was that in well so now like oh God I'd never call myself truly obese because I think that's unfair to make it seem like I've clawed my way back from that deficit many many people have struggled way more than how happy were you we'll decide if you were a beast okay maybe not yeah you're kind of no I've trust me I've seen obese and um sadly it is almost sad for me that I've never been obese just so that I could prove to my so I could prove myself the clip that will go viral right there no you're ready for the clip that's going to go viral I wish I'd been addicted to heroin because then people would see like if if it wasn't super dangerous and really stupid I would get addicted to heroin just so I could get back off of it you he ha first like you would actually try heroin if it wasn't insanely stupid yes but I recognize how stupid that is which is why I'm not going to do it but in terms of in terms of giving yourself something like a fast something to prove your level of discipline yeah it would be pretty amazing it would be stupid I'm not going to do it don't panic this reminds me of like a David bla is that his name moment yes and what do you think like extreme motivation garbage oh total motivation 100% right yes because the guy is like coming up with these problems to solve like could I possibly be submerged in ice for 25 hours and still survive that I I don't your your your wife's going to come running in here in a minute and shut this down if I keep pushing the heroin thing but seriously like do you think that if you you think that you could beat an addiction like that yes of course really of course you're it's been done right so other people true but I'm just wise enough to recognize how stupid that would be and the the devastating physical emotional and lifestyle effects that it would have so would I ever really do it no of course not because that would be [ __ ] absurd but could I do it yes of course see I don't think I could do it I I guess the reason why is because I maybe I could I I um I've met too many people that are struggling with the opioid addiction that turned into a heroin addiction and I've read too many studies about the fact that those drugs completely change your neurop Pathways and so you're haunted for the rest of your life with that trigger so it would be a lifetime of self-discipline I mean I have a hard enough time truly walking past the booze between 5 and 8:00 at night when I say to myself I'm not going to drink tonight and I don't drink but it is a haunting for 3 hours straight and so to sign up for a lifetime where I would be like that 24 hours oh my God I think I could do it but I wouldn't want to try that's an interesting question you're the kind of guy that I could see doing something like that like being that I'm not saying that you should but I I I I really like you're the kind of guy that is you want to inspire people and you want to teach people and unfortunately in today's world most people only pay attention when it's extreme here's the great news tell me that doesn't hold interest for me I would never do this for anyone else ever under any circumstance like that would really be [ __ ] so do I like that the things that I've learned are useful to other people yes but I don't consider myself a teacher you don't nope connected to mobile device what does that mean some technical difficulties bear with us folks oh that's all right I thought we were having a call-in show all of a sudden I'm like we're back to my radio days come on let's go that's going to be the next thing is to let people call into these live that would be that's an that sorry I've never that's an interesting question I bet somebody's done it I bet somebody has gotten addicted to some type of drug in order to show people that that you can get off it be crazy but impressive it would be totally crazy well I think that leads into our next topic which is an interesting one psychedelics oh oh motivating or garbage all right um we have Tom's response Mel I'm not sure well I don't really like them okay two garbage responses we'll start with Tom since he was very I I don't have the courage to find out if it's motivating so that's the truth because I've never done it I don't feel I have the right to say that it's motivating it might be amazing it might be transformative life-altering um but I'm too big of a chicken to find up so so he's definitely not doing heroin in other words if you can't take shrooms then you definitely are not doing her no Let Let There Be maximum Clarity I'm never actually going to get addicted to because you don't like to lose control see the thing about psychedelics is that that's for somebody that wants an experience where they want to go out of control I'm not worried about losing control that's not what freaks me out what freaks me out is permanent brain damage 100% I'm so brain protective I'm never going to head a soccer ball I'm never going to do a kickboxing match like any anything that has potential brain trauma at the end of it nope why because it's there's two things that once they happen I can't retrograde the loss of my wife and brain damage you can take money lose a business all of that whatever doesn't matter you can build your way back brain damage that's it done yeah it's true I remember my dad had um my dad they found a uh uh what's it called an aneurysm that hadn't blown up yet and they found it just ansor he had collapsed on a golf course he thought he had vertigo they did one of these scans and they're like oh no vertical but guess what you have an aneurysm and we got to take it out wow and I remember asking him because he's a doc he said um is this was one of these 5c moments I I called him or he called me to tell me that this whole thing was going down and um I remember being on the phone with him and he was explaining that he was going to go have surgery at the University of Michigan and they were going to cut his head open and pull off the top and do all this stuff to try to get to this aneurism and I and I had this feeling rise up where I thought I wonder if he's scared and then I immediately my mind started saying don't get him upset like you don't want that thing to blow like don't be the reason don't ask him a question that and that's immediately what I thought like you you could make this aneurism rupture if you get him upset and I went you know what 54321 I said Dad are you are you scared and he said you know Mel he said I I uh I've had a really incredible life he said I I grew up I got to do what I never thought I'd do I became a doctor I married your mom we've we've been together for 50 years you and your brother turned out he said I've really gotten to do what I've wanted to do with my life and he said the only thing that you could ever ask for is more time and he said you know watching my dad have a stroke and see him so debilitated and then caring for our best friend Susie who died of ALS he said I would never ever want to live in that state and so am I scared no he said I'm really lucky I'm lucky that we found it I'm lucky that we have a chance to fix it and I'm lucky that something didn't happen that completely debilitated me I'll tell you it was one of the most intimate conversations I had ever had with my father I almost didn't ask the question because I was afraid of upsetting him I was afraid of the intimacy as so many of us are of asking like the scary questions of upsetting some body and um I learned a lot about him and that's exactly what his fear was the same as yours and the surgery went fine and he's doing great but um yeah I think it's important to know who you are and what you want no questions lovely response would you like to expand on anything with well like Tom I've experimented I'm not going to give you the long laundry list but um I didn't like them like at the end of the day um through all the the experimenting I really at the the end of the day don't like feeling out of control and so that the wave that hits you if you take a psychedelic drug that would create a majorly stressful unhappy situation for me at this moment so I think they're complete garbage but for those of you that love to be completely out of control and out of your mind they're probably very motivating there you go all right for our next topic we're going to be giving away another prize all right the motivation is garbage clip you've probably seen we're going to give away this shirt our do shirt in the impact Theory store cool because if you seen the clip you know motivation is garbage and you just need to take action so let's hear from our contestants there it is there it is no no no nice and easy Tom we'll start with you um is motivation garbage no I get how it's meant and it winds me up to no end in fact where's my a camera will some are you my a camera all right let let me just say this right now if you have any intention of going to that clip and leaving a comment about how you're actually motivated and this woman is dumb because she's saying motivation is garbage that is to totally look at the world from how can I shut things off how can I close my mind how can I not be open to a piece of information because the clip is amazing it's resonated with a lot of people motivation will let you down at the most inopportune moments and so to not look past like just the binary statement of motivation is garbage which obviously she's saying to make a point to get people's attention to not look past that to the message that she's trying to convey it winds me up when I get those comments I want to just like crawl through the computer screen you do oh I laugh yeah I laugh cuz you're a sucker you fell for a headline and you know what else we know I know anyways you probably didn't even watch the clip you just sound it off in the comments and if you're somebody that does that you are robbing yourself because you're not actually trying to learn anything the point of that clip is to make you understand that the major mistake that everybody makes is waiting waiting to [ __ ] feel like it waiting for somebody to pick you waiting for the right time waiting for you to feel motivated it's not coming for the big stuff for the hard stuff it requires a push always has always will nobody is coming to save your ass it is up to you and so if you want to change anything about your life stop sitting around and wasting your goddamn life and start pushing yourself whether it's a fast or it is starting a business or it is changing how you talk to your spouse or it's changing the kind of parent that you are you got one life and all you need to do is turn on the freaking news and see the kind of [ __ ] that's going on in this world it's both amazing and terrifying you never know when your time is up but I do know that you've got time right now to change things things and so the thing you should change is you should take 100% responsibility for your future you should decide what is it that you really want your life to look like because you only get one of them and it's not going to start again but you could start building your future right now and that begins the moment that you realize that you're never going to feel like doing the things that are hard you're never going to feel like stepping out of your comfort zone and the second that you do the second that you push through you win you you win because you see yourself becoming the kind of person who takes action you see yourself believing in your ideas you see yourself disregarding your own excuses that is the source of confidence it's the willingness to try it doesn't start with belief it starts with the push so do yourself a freaking favor and stop thinking about all this stuff and stop commenting and push yourself do something who's going to win the shirt I think uh well I guess the shirt we have a winner Amy B on Facebook you just won yourself a do shirt oh yeah and dear audience aren't you glad you tuned in today because this is some powerful stuff all right now let's get a time check from our judges can we keep going we have several more topics awesome all right let's keep going next topic artificial intelligence where's the one that says terrifying I'm I'm going to do this one cuz it's it scares the hell out of me so artificial intelligence is obviously so there's an incredible Ted talk I'm sure you've already seen it about the biologist from Harvard who talks it's a he he just gave a talk in Vancouver where he wrote a a letter to a young scientist and it's all the things that he wants scientists to understand and one of the things that he talks about in this particular Ted Talk is the fact that the pace of technology is and you talk about this all the time is is eclipsing our ability to keep up with it that we cannot right now even predict what the technology will be like 10 years from now artificial intelligence is going to be the thing that changes the next 10 years of Our Lives when I when you think about just the technology of talking to Siri or the augmented reality of of what they just released on Instagram or what they've had on Snapchat or you think about the learning intelligence of of these apps that we have that start to serve up things to you this is only going to get exponentially more significant in terms of your daytoday life that's going to have profound changes for jobs for how people behave for what's required of you how much you're relying on machines and so you know it scares me because I don't know what's coming and I don't know I mean I know Elon Musk is worried enough about it that he's starting to dig into the ethics behind it but it's exciting because it makes life easier and it's exciting because it will help doctors diagnose you because artificial intelligence and can crunch 50,000 records at once and then using predictive modeling and the Watson technology to IBM help with the diagnosing of your particular cancer which is amazing but there are implications that I can't even wrap my brain around in terms of humanity and ethics and that scares the hell out of me fair enough I think a lot of people live there I think a lot of people if they can't understand it then there's um an automatic bias to the negative that people to I mean just think about it from an algorithmic perspective as a human being to make sure that that thing rustling in the bush uh isn't a lion instead of someone that you love and care about very much we immediately go to negative assumptions but um for anybody who's read miio kaku's book on basically um what the future looks like and he talks about the different classifications of societies and I forget it's like a level five Society can harness the power of a star um that's where it starts to get interesting and I'm telling people look Beyond like yes it's going to cure illnesses yes it's going to do a lot of amazing things yes that it's going to change jobs but it's like look beyond that to when as a species we're able to fully transcend biology live forever oh my God yes it's going to be want to do do you want 100% you do body who says that they don't want to that's total that's crazy talk because all you've ever known is life well I'm also going to be trapped like by the time they figure that out I'm going to be 80 so I'm going to be in the diaper and like everybody else is going to be of a party for a life let let me let me Enlighten you to the Future that's coming so first of all every year that you live your life is going to be getting better so by the time you're talking to a person that can hardly believe that a Ford Focus can self Park I see these commercials so like where you're going with all of this okay so tell me what's coming yeah so every year it's going to get a little bit better so by the time you're I mean you're talking better me meaning like the botox is better so I don't R you won't even have to think about Botox because first of all with a skin gun you'd literally be able to do a facial peel it can determine how deep to go cuz each layer of the skin does different things and they'll be able to 3D print the skin on you this stuff is amazing the world is only going to get better my friends technology is a one-way Street towards hope and prosperity so if I can just balance people out know you're going to go in and into like some sort of tube and step out as gag gag gag Goin Goin Goin Goin whatever the hell his name is yes not quite but I like where it be like Freaky Friday only you know with you and gagan go I am hopefully not I think it's time to move on to our next topic all right yeah I this one's going off the rails all right next topic who sex I didn't see that coming this is not a family show ladies and gentlemen yeah all right Mel we'll start with you it's amazing it gets better especially it gets better well having been married now I'm having a hot flesh having been married for 20 years one would think that it would suck to only have sex with one person for the rest of your life but it's actually pretty incredible and it gets better all the time all right great answer Tom and it's work it's not natural to be monogamous you got to want it you got to be committed to it you got to like be intentional about it but it it's amazing great nice um I'll just take it from a neurochemistry standpoint it is amazing it uh the The Rush from vasopressin which makes you feel connected and pair bonding and trust and all that wonderful stuff to just the the physical sensation which is utterly astonishing so it is Nature's greatest TI you should try it on psychedelics I don't know I've been told it's not that great but I'm just kidding all right hey you guys pick the topic toic I love it next topic hater I was told the only thing we wouldn't talk is politics okay haters what do we got Tom why are haters motivating um it's my 8020 rule so 80% of the time you should spend it in looking at the things that are beautiful the people that support you all that good stuff but 20% of the time knowing that people out there want you to fail is actually incredibly potent for me like the moments where it's hardest the moments where I'm in real pain those are the times where only the darkness will do and focusing on the beautiful things that I'm trying to create it's just not enough for me at those moments I really do need to know that somebody wants me to fail they want to drag me down so that I can push back against it all right now what do you think um well I find haters really motivating and I put them in a couple C atories I'd put like there's a whole especially when when you're in a kind of a public job whether you're on television or you put stuff out online there's a lot of trolls out there so there's a lot of nasty people that are probably living in their parents basement that have nothing better to do than just slang garbage online so those folks I don't find motivating I find them kind of sad but the true haters the people that engage you intellectually that don't like your ideas that you say something and it triggers something I find that so motivating because if you trigger somebody else there's a kernel of Truth to what you said because most of us don't care about the things that that don't matter to us you know you could call me a lousy parent and I would be non plused at all because I don't believe that but if you you know I don't even know what you could say that would rattle me at this point but um if you when when you have somebody that really engages you with your ideas it shows me and is very motivating because I'm reaching people I've got ideas that are provocative you don't want to just listen to people that say the same old [ __ ] that you believe otherwise you're not going to grow when somebody says something whether it's Tom that says something about you know us living forever that pisses me off and scares me there's that moment where I hate him and then there's that moment of expansion where I stop and consider wow what if he's right and so I think it's a natural part of the process of growing and when you get that kind of push back particularly when somebody engages you intellectually as a hater what that tells me is they're at step one of changing their own opinion now they might not never come fully to your side but you've made them stop and consider and react you've interrupted the autopilot and that's really cool now I also love when you do things that people agree with and they're inspired by and they are empowered by so that the response is more positive I certainly prefer that but I don't necessarily see the haters as negative I see it motivating both great answers I will award you each 1,000 points wow the first points of the game just made them up right now all right next topic The Matrix all right wait we're giving away a shirt impact Theory shirt for this one so be sure to put your answers in the comments and you can win Tom we'll of course start with you because we know this is near and dear to your heart yeah I mean this movie is to me the perfect metaphor for what it means to be a human so the Matrix is the mind uh you have all these limiting beliefs that either you've adopted yourself or been handed to by society and the people that you love and care about you and all that um and once you can get past those Shu them off then you see the way the world really works and then you can do just a lot more more than you probably ever thought possible all right great Mel your response um well I'm just going to say garbage because I like it you know didn't you say it was a documentary well that's a shirt yeah yeah that's what I thought I saw you wearing a shirt that said it the Matrix was a documentary very true um I honestly I saw the Matrix so long ago that I can't really remember all that much and if I had to be told on asked on the spot what's the difference between the red and the blue pill I wouldn't know uhoh yes so I off the set right now I feel like I need to rewatch the movie the next time I see you so I can actually talk turkey with you it it it is a great movie but certainly don't mind that most people probably don't remember it the way that I do so we'll have to hold a screening I think yes and invite all friends and family okay oh my gosh you know what the next time we do a show together can we do a screening of the Matrix where you see Tom's head in the background in the front row you know like that show where they have that yes do Mystery Science Theater with that and you do the commentary that would be fun let's do that all right we have a winner who got the impact Theory t-shirt Jessica T Jessica congratulations you just won the shirt thanks for playing next topic cat videos motivation or Garbage Tom is going to say garbage and Mel motivation Mel Why cat videos motivated um well I I I just find them really funny and if you intentionally watch them as long as you're doing it on purpose not for procrastination I just find them motivating because I get a short burst of dopamine I laugh it makes me love my cat a little bit more not going to lie uh I do have a dog too but um anyway I don't know I think they're kind of fun all right little break motivating tom cats are like inviting an animal into your house that does not care about your well-being at all like I literally do not understand people that have cats that is some Madness like what about cat videos H we can talk cats that's okay cat videos waste of time mildly amusing at best uh I literally can't believe that cats have taken over the Internet like that's crazy town to me but so yeah cuz they're more intelligent than dogs that's why is that it cuz I like to think with intelligence comes compassion and one thing that cats lack is some compassion there's nothing that's not intelligent see dogs are just I have an Australian Shepherd too so I have a very smart dog he gives less shits about me than the cat let's put it that way we have a mun cat a rescue cat who I think is so happy that somebody rescued him from the cage that he's not going anywhere um I don't know I guess I just feel like dogs are happy and lovely and loyal and always there with you but cats have a personality I got to respect that I respect the fact that they get angry at you I respect the fact that they're like just cuz I am feline and I am of the animal world does not mean you get to treat me like that wow yes that was good yes thank you I made that up I like that all right before we go to our next topic I want to remind everyone that you can win our grand prize by suggesting a topic for our contestants to answer it's going to be our final category you can win 25 books off of Tom bil's reading list 5sec rule signed copy from Mel Robbins two impact Theory t-shirts an audible subscription it's huge put your comments in now the most like liked comment will win so let's go to our nice penultimate category wow social media oh oh God that's a hard one Mel your response oh I feel like I'm so wishy-washy on all of these things that's okay well I'm very conflicted about social media okay well let's start I I was just at a party last night for my we were back in Boston it was the last game for my daughter's varsity lacrosse game and we were at a big after game party after they won at somebody's house and it was a big potluck with the whole team and and there were literally 30 girls sitting in a circle with their phones out and I know the studies I and and in fact Instagram is the one that causes the greatest depression because it's so curated and there filters and it's Visual and I am really worried about the consuming side of social media and even and I know better and I find myself getting jealous like I'll see you guys doing all this cool stuff and these incredible sets and I'm like [ __ ] you know Tom is crushing it and I'm I'm I'm a loser I'm behind I need to get going I need to I need to get a game show I need to like I need to be doing more more more more more right we all feel it I don't care how old you are and so in that regard I think it's garbage I think we're going to look back on this era the way we did with smoking and say were we crazy to let the cigarette companies advertise to children were we crazy yes we were because it was addictive and because there was no kind of social conscience con like Consciousness about it and so I worry about this tremendously both for my own mental health and for my kids and the kind of people that they will turn out to be as a business person I love the fact that I can connect with people I love the fact that and as a human being I love the fact that I can connect with people I love that people can comment I love the real-time feedback I love that we can go live and be connected to people around like that is the power of it to do good to connect to um facilitate your dreams to get you information it is the single most revolutionary force in the world I mean look at look at the Arab Spring and all the revolutions that happened that were fueled by social media look at the way that Manchester after the bombing at the Ariana Grande concert immediately social media like uh just just got together and they were putting up free housing for people and Facebook has now got the get so there's pieces to this that are so important for us as a society and as individuals I'm terrified for all of us so I don't know what the answer is all right great answer there we go whoops we do have one more category you're Tom what's your answer um I optimism is is my default setting so um I certainly understand your concerns and I think if I had kids maybe I would be more concerned um but social media has only given to me it's never taken anything away and that's something saying that who has people that write him and say I'm an idiot I'm a Fool whatever but like the overwhelming number of people um are connecting with each other helping each other um they're able to reach out to people that otherwise they wouldn't be able to I've been able to connect with people that I never would have been able to and when I when I think back to how for lack of a better term landlocked I felt as a kid like not knowing how to reach out to somebody not knowing like how to connect or get out of Tacoma it was like I felt so helpless and now it's I mean Wes is here and Wes and I connected on social and there's Ibrahim we connected on social I mean literally all of our interns are people that we met socially first and they've become real people in my life and I think that's the one criticism people normally leverage against social media and say Well they're not real relationships well they are if you pursue them and so like to me the the amount that it's given me is TR tremendous and the amount that it's taken away is so infinitesimal as to not be relevant it's true like if you think about like what would your life be like if all of a sudden all of that disappeared the lack of connection like the inability to find the information that you need the the the like as you said like that sense of isolation that so many of us can feel I agree with you that at the end of the day the benefits outweigh a millionfold I just get really concerned concerned about our individual psychology and not just for the kids for the adults yeah all right let's go to our last category now we have to announce our winner Leanne on Facebook congratulations you've won the grand prize wow Le the top liked comment that you want our contestants to answer and the topic is genius sorry it was a random choice but we like your topic like uhoh the topic is Gen genius motivating or Garbage you don't have to get them you can just respond all right all right Mel genius is being a genius motivation or garbage I think it's garbage because to me that um when when I hear the word genius I think about somebody that has a particular expertise and to me what's really motivating is people that have and I know Tom I think believes the same thing too have a growth mindset meaning you're really focused on the effort so you're not focused on a knowledge Bank you're focused on the effort the effort the effort always trying always getting better and to me genius is sort of a state that you reach on a topic so I think it's garbage to try to go there way better to cultivate this ability to keep working harder and harder all right great answer bless you Tom um so here's the really bad news I think that genius is real and I think that there are some people that are are just and I'll Define it as the ability to process data very rapidly and there are some people they can just process data very very rapidly and if you took somebody who was a genius and somebody who wasn't and they put in equal amount of work and effort and all that the genius is just going to win there's no two ways about it um but having said that the number of people that qualify for that and then actually do anything with it is so small and I think people let themselves certainly I did I let myself get trapped by that and I felt like well I wasn't born a genius at anything and so that felt like a death sentence for a very long time and I found myself doing weird emotional contortions to try to be genius at something just so I could feel good about myself and what do you do when it's like you really like run the math and if you run the math boys and girls guess what you're average right that was a hard Awakening for me and so to realize that just mathematically speaking I was average and if there was anything that like running the wrong math why do you say that well calculate the odds that you're even born sure but you're playing that against all people in the same scenario so that sort of washes to zero no it doesn't we're a relativistic species we're looking at how we fit people around but you were just saying earlier even on social media like you're looking at other people and you feel that steam but you know as well as I do that the power is in here and that based on your ancestry based on your unique DNA based on the fact that you have two brains that's right two brains from the recent research from the Human Genome Project they've actually figured out that when you're being formed in an embryonic State the clump of tissue that separates when your brain is formed one clunk becomes your brain one Clump becomes your gut yes the same DNA that forms your brain forms your gut in fact your gut has more unique DNA in it than your brain than the rest of your entire body it has a the same neurotransmitters that your brain has so when we talk about body intelligence there is now crazy amazing science that explains why you feel things before you think them and so between your situational intelligence the experience of your life the unique DNA that you have that is unique to you you bring this totally unprecedented amount of wisdom to the experience of life there's never going to be another you never and so the secret to life I believe is having the clarity to actually hear yourself to hear that unique wisdom that that makes you you and to listen to it to act on it to take action on it because what makes Tom tick is different than what makes me tick and you could measure US based on money or based on how many people work for us or how long we've been married or how what our grades are all this artificial [ __ ] the thing that truly matters the people that you admire most they all have one thing in common they've all figured out how to listen to their own wisdom you think Jay-Z holds a caucus before he makes a business decision I don't think so neither does Oprah Winfrey or Bill Gates or Richard Branson or any of these people that you hold in high regard as you should or whether it's a poet or a writer whomever you love and adore they have one characteristic in common they've figured out who they are by listening to their instincts and taking action on it and so can you that's the answer passion and and living an Engaged life and and figuring out what you're supposed to do it starts in here not out there word I'll give you a slightly different take uh there's nothing special about you you are average in every way conceivable and your life is going to be the answer to one question what are you willing to become and what price are you willing to pay to get there that's it you are a blank canvas my friends and you can become anything you want but that dual brain that she's talking about every [ __ ] bu has it everyone you love everyone you hate they all start with the same boring lump of Flesh spread out yes from their head down to their gut how wonderful but now it's going to become a question if you want to be a snowflake snowflake then you better start synthesizing a lot of [ __ ] information read a lot of stuff watch a lot of things experience a lot and then have the guts to have an individual reaction but to think that you were born special is a mistake is that clear not to me I think that that I I think that is the biggest hunk of horseshit I've ever heard in my entire life yes that was not that was garbage you have something unique and amazing to offer to the world that nobody else can do it is your job the purpose of your life is to figure out who you are and the way that you do that is you tune out you tune out the world and you tune in here yeah you you got to go read you got to go read you got to watch a ton of videos you got to tune into the show every week you've got to explore you've got to experience you got to fail but then you've always got to calibrate it against what are your instincts saying what energizes you what depletes you that's it's really that simple follow the things that energize you follow the things that you're naturally curious about don't buy into the [ __ ] he's telling you because you are you are not only unique I think it you're BL Miracle the fact that you were born who you were born and there's a reason why you're here and it's time you start to figure it out you build yourself Brick by Brick like anybody and if you want to be special you must become special that's the joy of life is to decide who you want to become and become that person doesn't matter where you start doesn't matter who you were born to doesn't matter what your DNA is nothing you can become anyone you want to become so I have no doubt that you can become special I have no doubt that you can do amazing things that other people simply believe are not possible but it's a choice and it's based on your actions and what you do and your willingness to suffer and grow and fail and learn from it and get back up and Claw your way to the top but it's in your control so the current state of your life is all your fault whether that's good or bad but you can become anything you want just have to set your mind to it and with that we're going to have to WRA it up cuz I won join us for another bonus round where it's a battle royale oh but thank you to Mel Robbins and Tom Bill youu thank you guys for for our first ever our first ever game show on the set of impact Theory Studios uh thanks to our live audience for joining us and for participating and playing along be sure to follow Mel Robbins and Tom Bilu online subscribe to all the great content um and don't miss a very special event coming to you in just a few hours from the studio Mel is going to be doing a live cast with Success magazine showing you how to build the life of your design and use the tools of confidence courage and Clarity to 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