Kind: captions Language: en what let me ask a romanticized question what is the most beautiful - you silly ape the most beautiful surprising idea in the development of artificial intelligence whether in your own life or in the history of artificial intelligence that you've come across if you built an AI it probably can make models at an arbitrary degree of detail right of the world and then it would try to understand its own nature it's tempting to think that at some point when we have general intelligence we have competitions very evil that the AIS wake up in different kinds of physical universes and we measure how many movements of the rubik's cube it takes until it's figured out what's going on in its universe and what it is and its own nature in its own physics and so on right so what if we exists in the memory of an AI that is trying to understand its own nature and remembers its own genesis and remembers lex and Yasha sitting in hotel sparking some of the ideas of that led to the development of general each other to wear a kind of simulation that's running in an AI system is trying to understand itself it's not that I believe that but I think it's a beautiful I mean you kind of return to this idea with the Turing test of intelligence being of intelligence being the process of asking and answering what is intelligence I mean what why do you think there's there is an answer what why is there such a search for an answer what so does there have to be and I can I can answer you just had an AI system that's trying to understand the why of what you know understand itself is that a fundamental process of greater and greater complexity greater greater intelligence is the continuous trying of understanding itself no I think you will find that most people don't care about that because they're well-adjusted enough to not care and the reason why people like you and me occur about it probably has to do with the need to understand ourselves it's because we are in fundamental disagreement is the universe that we make happen was that looks yummy and I see oh my god I'm caught in a monkey what's that sorry feeling right it's just the government and I'm unhappy with the entire universe and I find myself in so you don't think that's a fundamental aspect of human nature that some people are just suppressing that they're they wake up shocked they're there in the body of a monkey no there's clear adaptive value to not be confused by that and by well no no that's our air so so you have to clear adaptive value then there's clear adaptive value to while fundamentally your brain is confused by that by creating an illusion another layer of the narrative that says you know that tries to suppress that and instead say that you know what's going on with the government right now is the most important thing what's going on with my football team is the most important thing but it seems to me the like I would like for me it was a really interesting moment reading Ernest Becker's denial of death the you know there's this kind of idea that we're all you know the fundamental thing from which most of our human mind Springs is this fear of mortality being cognizant of mortality and the fear of that mortality and then you construct illusions on top of that I guess I'm you being just to push on it you you really don't think it's possible that this worry of the big existential questions is actually fundamental as of as the existentialist thought to our existence I think that the fear of death only plays a role as long as you don't see the big picture the thing is that minds are soft first dates right software doesn't have identity software in some sense is a physical law but if yeah right so but it feels like there's an identity I thought that was the for this particular piece of software and the narrative it tells that's a fundamental property of assigning it maintenance of the identity is not terminal its instrumental to something else you maintain your identity so you can serve you mean so you can do the things that you're supposed to do before your bad died and I suspect that for most people the fear of death is the fear of dying before they are done with the things that they feel they have to do even though they cannot quite put their finger on it but it is what that is right but in the software world okay they return to the question then what happens after we die because what you care you will not be longer there the point of trying is that you're gone or maybe I'm not this is what you know it it seems like there's so much any idea that this is just the mind is just the simulation is constructing a narrative around some particular aspects of the quantum mechanical wave function world that we can't quite get direct access to then like the idea of mortality seems to be a little fuzzy as well it doesn't maybe there's not a clear and the fuzzy idea is the one of continuous existence we don't have continuous existence how do you know that like that it's not computable because you're saying it's good it's no process the only thing that binds you together with the leg Sweetman from yesterday is the illusion that you have memories about him so if you want to upload it's very easy you make a machine that thinks it's you because this is the same thing that you are you are a machine that thinks it's you but that's that's more and that's the immortality yeah but it's just a belief you can create this body very easily once you realize that the question whether you are immortal or not depends entirely on your beliefs and your own continuity but then it then then you can be immortal by the continuity of the belief you cannot be immortal but you can stop being afraid of your mortality because you realize you were never could never continuously existing in the first place well I don't know if I'd be more terrified or less terrified with that it seems like the fact that I existed also you don't know this state in which you don't have itself you can turn off yourself you know I can't turn you can turn it off you can turn it off I can yes and you can basically meditate yourself in a state where you are still conscious there's still things are happening you know everything that you knew before but you no longer identified was changing anything and this means that yourself and rate dissolves there is no longer this person you know that this person construct exists in other states and it runs on this brain of Lex Friedman but it's it's not a real thing it's a construct it's an idea and you can change that idea and if you let go of this idea if you don't think that you are special you realize it's just one of many people and it's not your favorite person even right it's just one of many and it's the one that you are doomed to control for the most part and that is basically informing the actions of this organism yeah as a control model and this is all there is and you are somehow afraid that this control model gets interrupted or loses the identity of continuity yeah so I'm attached I mean yeah there is a very popular it's the somehow compelling notion that being being attached like there's no need to be attached to this idea of an identity but that in itself could be a an illusion that you construct so the process of meditation while popular is thought of as getting under the concept of identity it could be just putting a cloak over it just telling it to be quiet for the moment you know it I think that meditations eventually just a bunch of techniques that let you control attention and when you can control the attention you can get access to your own source code hopefully not before you understand what you're doing and then you can change the way it works temporarily or permanently so yeah meditation says we can get a glimpse at the source code get under and it's basically a patrol or that you've learned to control attention so yeah everything else is downstream from controlling attention and control the attention that's looking at the attention not only the only get attention in the parts of our mind that create heat where you have a mismatch between model and the results that are happening and so most people are not self-aware because their control is too good if everything works out roughly the way you want and the only things that don't work out is whether your football team vents then you will mostly have models about these domain and it's only when for instance your fundamental relationships to the world around you don't work because the ideology of your country is insane and the other kids are not nerds and don't understand why you understand physics and you don't why you want to understand physics and you don't understand why somebody would not want to understand physics you