Kind: captions Language: en You talked about moral victory. Can you explain how your morality contributes to the way you see the value of winning? Sure. Uh I I think there's absolutely such a thing as a moral victory. And sometimes people that uh are trying to manipulate you or trying to get you to buy something will tell you differently. And you know there is there it goes in two directions. For instance, let's say you're a blue belt and you compete against you know a real black belt. And there's plenty of people running around black belts that are not particularly at this point. But you know let's say for instance you're a blue belt and you compete against a real black belt. the likelihood of you winning is almost zero. However, if you go out there and you try hard and you do your best and again, whether you come off the mat, you know, a winner, which would be very fortunate and unlikely, but or you come off the mat, you know, on the other side of things, if you went after it and you tried and you, you know, let's say you had some nerves, but you kept that in check and you fought hard and you didn't let it get the better of you, um, you know, that would be, in my opinion, a moral victory and and there would be nothing wrong for recognizing it as such. Now, that's not the same thing as an actual physical victory, but there's nothing wrong with saying, let's say you're your opponent's 260 lbs and you're 120 and you tie, they get the decision. Hey, you know, I mean, remember that happened to me at the uh quarterfinal or not the quarterfinal rather in the third round at the absolute in the worlds in uh 2008. Um, you know, and you know, it was against a a heavyweight or super heavyweight and ended up 000 and I wasn't happy about losing by any stretch of the imagination, but looking back, I'm like, "Oh, okay. Well, you know, generally speaking, if you end up level considering that I have all of the resources and you don't, that is, you know, you definitely performed a little bit better than I did. Now, at the end of the day, you know, wins and losses do matter and you do want to try to make sure that I'm not shooting for the moral victory. I'm shooting for the actual victory. But every now and then it's very very important to keep in mind that you know am I just asking myself am I conducting myself in a way that I respect that hopefully other people of value or respect and also a way that I believe is going to produce actual victory and actual positive results in the long run as well. Uh I think it's important to recognize that because sometimes you'll see people get very frustrated. Let's say for instance if I box against people that are much more experienced than me all the time. you know, I'm not going to win. And anyone that tells you differently has is either not training with people that are very good or B, they have no idea what they're talking about. But what I can say is, hey, did I do a little bit better today? And better doesn't mean that I did I land more punches necessary. Was I more under control? Was I more able to kind of keep my keep my focus and and execute what I wanted to execute? And if the answer to that is yes, you know, I'm moving in the right direction. So, as far as I'm concerned, there's all sorts of different types of moral victory, but it would be the the same thing as, you know, let's say, for instance, you know, Fedor slaps your mother. You got to hit him. You have to. He's going to kick the out of you almost certainly, but you have to hit him. It would not be It would be a technical like, well, I didn't get hurt, so that's a win if you ran away, but that would be the opposite of the moral victory in that case. Trying your best and losing would still be, I would say, the honorable thing to do. So what you're saying is sometimes you have to pay the price for a moral victory. Absolutely. But the reality is that martial arts doesn't just teach us about how to beat someone up or technique or this or that. That's really not the core of the martial arts. The core of the martial arts is heart, discipline, dedication, focus. And if you have those things, there'll always be people better than you and there'll always be people lesser than you. But that's not the only metric by which you can judge performance or judge a person.