NOVA | Part 3 Doctors' Diaries Panel Discussion
bR6z4ckEbVo • 2009-04-06
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I wondered if I might say or actually to
Michael to follow up a little bit on
what he had said earlier about his fear
that we're gonna have words which is
this I really want to thank Michael
because I have not made this easy for
him along the way I've been very
sensitive to the idea that Nova wanted
there to be a storyline and I very much
didn't like the idea that my life was
gonna get turned into one I didn't want
to be playing some kind of part and I
think Michaels actually been very
sensitive to portraying us in a way that
that is I can recognize myself I think
he's done an excellent job and he's it
had been a very hard project to bring
together and I really have a lot of
respect for what he's done so I wanted
to for all the hassle I've given him and
all the times I told him he couldn't
film when I was with patients I wanted
to thank him there's a question sorry
there's a question back here hi I think
this documentary or this series is is
stunning for a very simple reason and
that is that you know I'm an average
person I you know I go to see my primary
care physician and I have a few
specialists and have a few degrees of my
own and I think I've worked hard in my
life and then I see this and I think to
myself that the American public has
absolutely no concept of what it takes
to become a doctor and the interaction
is diminished in some ways to the visit
or the insurance payment or the premium
and we really have to elevate the
conversation I think in some level from
the standpoint of respect to really make
change in the system because you know we
talk a lot about health care finance you
know and all of that it's not it is
about so much more than the numbers
despite the fact that the numbers are an
important part of the conversation and I
think this you know just this glimpse
that I have gotten from seeing this
piece inspires me to understand that in
a whole different way and so I you know
applaud everybody whose effort went into
this because you know I just never knew
I was quite so clueless I don't think
I'm right David you've got a question
yeah I did you just triggered a thought
which was been talking about what it
takes to become a doctor I'm wondering
for all of us given all you've been
through what does it take for us to be
good patients and to have relationships
with you that make for good health here
Jane's thoughts I think it's one thing
that's changed a lot and the time that
I've been a doctor is the web I really
am glad that patients talk a lot to each
other nowadays and if you've got
something that you're seeking a doctor's
help with it's much more possible at
least it seems to me that it is I wasn't
I was a lot younger back before the web
but it seems to me that people are
talking to each other and there's a lot
of consumer education buying for other
consumers and I think that's really
helpful it keeps us getting asked very
smart questions so question um so almost
none of my patients have computers or
the web and are legal immigrants or
whatever so um I actually have not even
thought of that but I for the for the
group in the audience here I suggest
reading a book by Jerome groopman called
how doctors think and I read that book
and I was like this is exactly it and I
think he has really captured very very
nicely that and I you know would put a
challenge to people to kind of read that
and get that same message in other
digestible forms that people can have
and really understanding that your
doctor is a human and that you know
where they're coming from like maybe
they lost a patient
with something cuz they under diagnosed
so now they're like super hyper about
getting all sorts of tests like you mean
they may not you know and here's the
psychiatrist next me but they may not
have conscious feelings why they may
make certain choices and that it's your
sort of job as the patient just a really
question and and really advocate for
yourselves but I think reading that book
is is really helpful have you guys yeah
I think it's really quite enlightening
so this question is mostly for J given
the emphasis on on boundaries in
psychiatry I'm wondering how often or if
it comes up you know oh I've seen you
over the last 20 years and patients
wanting to talk about that or bringing
things up not very often though it
spikes so we'll see but it is true
there's a there's a big issue about
separating one's own personal life from
the work one's doing in therapy which is
the main part of what I do and most of
my patients wouldn't otherwise know an
awful lot of the stuff that appears in
this most of the stuff that's here would
otherwise not be available for people to
know and from time to time that's come
up and I it makes sense to sort of be
frank about what's out there it's
obviously public at this point but I'm
I'm sort of surprised on both sides
because sometimes sometimes when the
show's been on recently a whole bunch of
people will come up in the same week and
say oh I recognize you and other times
you know years will go by and no one's
mentioned it so it it's both there and
not there there's a question in the back
two questions actually
hi there I'm a medical student right now
actually there's actually a whole table
of us over here and a bunch of us are
about to finish medical school and go
off on to our internships and residences
and we were just kind of wondering what
advice you have for us as we're about to
embark on this journey I assume you're
talking to Jay and I might go and follow
other Edisto so when I was a fourth-year
medical student I took a trip with a
neurology resident who I had met on my
rotation we went to the Grand Canyon and
Santa Fe and you know in the southwest
and I remember she said to me at the
time remember this moment and hold on to
it and when the times are really dark
just remember how beautiful it was here
and so I would suggest in the next few
months or if you've had something do
something really wonderful and really
imprinted on your mind and then you know
and just hold on to that and every year
on your vacations plan something really
wonderful your best vacations of your
entire life will be those you take
during residency because it's just it's
like you went from Hell to heaven and
and and really let those imprint on you
and then the other piece of advice is
when you feel like you're really not
like yourself don't worry when you get
to the other side you will become
yourself again you know and that's okay
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