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what would you say is the um is the
primary problem or maybe maybe there are
more than one with red meat is it the
you know is it the saturated fats uh
yeah you know so it's a it's a great
question um Everybody tries to pin
things on saturated fats and there's a
controversy now about saturated fats you
know some people say they're not
necessarily as bad as they're not you
don't want to demonize them they play
their role as well um I think that part
of the issue about a heavy meat diet is
really the overage of eating meat and
the way by the way that meat is treated
um in factory farming also doesn't
actually help the quality of the meat
the antibiotic laced Foods Meats the way
they're treated and because some animals
are actually fattened up in with
steroids and other you know artificial
things you're you're not really getting
a Pure Food you're getting a doctored
food uh in a way that's not so good for
you we do know by the way that eating
preserved Meats which I which I didn't
put on my list but not just red meat but
preserved meats you know the the the
deli meats the things that you you know
we probably all grew up with you know
like as kids you know you get a piece of
baloney you put it between two pieces of
white bread and put some you know
artificial mayonnaise on like I mean
everybody has had that experience right
at least in this country that kind of
experience and we know that um
artificial processed meats are actually
rated by the World Health Organization
as a carcinogen and all the data shows
that people who
eat way a lot of processed Meats uh uh
I'm not talking about the naturally
processed meats you know like the
salamis and things hanging in the air in
Italy or Sardinia I'm talking about the
mass-produced stuff that you get at the
grocery store you know that's not good
for you and so I think that um let's
focus this what I tell people let's
focus on the things that you love that
are good for you let's find ways to make
them as tasty as possible I love that
you qualified that because I mean
honestly when I see you know when I read
the statement from the World Health
Organization I'm thinking to myself yeah
it's the Boney that people are eating
you know in between the two slices of
white bread with the Mayo with the soda
with the bag of Sun Chips on the side
you know it's like it's that it's the
millu exactly it's not exactly you know
and and I'm not saying that that meat is
good for you either but it's uh it would
be impossible my view well it's just
like the Leon Story or you know like
it's so easy to sort of find a culprit
and then paint them as Most Wanted and
then send a vigilante team to go hunt
them down like it's it's not that simple
yeah I agree um if you are opting to
because you're absolutely right about
the factory farm system if you do uh
incorporate meat into your diet red meat
specifically uh what what do you look
out
for you know I try to get um uh what I
call kind of conscious conscientiously
raised Meats um I care about the planet
and I care about animals and so I think
that if you're going to go for meat get
meat that's done properly raised
properly and you know and and just a
little side comment uh that I you know
usually I I don't try to tell people
what not to do I try to encourage people
what to do that they enjoy right but I
will tell you um I I I scratched my head
a little bit about these plant-based
burgers that are genetically engineered
and um and you know they're they're
Ultra processed a lot of times and it's
like look man if you really love a
burger you know and you and you got to
eat a burger and that's what you really
love take good care of your body eat
really good stuff that support your
health defense systems most of the time
and then if you're going to eat a burger
get the best freaking Burger you can
find with the best quality of meat and
just go for it knock yourself out just
don't do it all the time I love that you
talked about foods that can help us
regenerate our tissues our organs um
with the help of stem cells that we
produce endogenously what are some of
those regenerative Foods yeah so um
first of all just so that everyone knows
how we know that our bodies regenerate
we have stem cells that actually live in
our bone marrow they're kind of like
bees living inside a hive and when a
when our um organs or tissues need to be
repaired or regenerated they send a
signal to our bone marrow the bone
marrow is kind of like the brown stuff
if you break a chicken bone and you can
see in the middle of it that's all um
that's so those are all stem cells we
actually were made from stem cells in
the womb um The Leftovers are just
packed into our bone marrow and a few
other places um and and uh when there's
a signal that your organ need to be
repaired basically the damaged area
sends a text message to your bone marrow
and says hey I need a few stem cells
come on and what happens is that that
message will send out the stem cells
into your bloodstream and your Genesis
like bees coming out of a hive and those
bees go they make a beine literally
right for that organ and repair it
replace it it's pretty amazing uh if I
you know a lot of people don't know this
but if you had your liver some some of
our organs really regenerate if you had
a liver problem and uh I removed twoth
thirds of your liver most of it the rest
of it a third will grow right back the
rest of it right back if I clipped off
the top of your lung it would just
regenerate grow right back and and like
you know people go whoa I I didn't know
that but guess what our hair grows back
our skin grows back you know you got a
little dandruff on it's because you're
they skins falling off the old stuff
being replaced by stem cells so um what
are the foods that can actually help
augment boost activate you know amplify
this process well um there's a whole
bunch of them one of my favorite ones is
to talk about is dark chocolate cacao uh
which is a fruit pod um actually and and
dried and and uh usually fermented um
cacao has all these polyphenols and some
of the cacao poly fos which are called
proanthocyanidin actually have been
shown when they're when they're given in
dark chocolate like really dark high
flavonol cocoa okay um specifically the
study was done with hot chocolate made
with ultra dark chocolate um High Flav
on Co cacao um you give it there was a
study in people who are El older 60s
with heart disease okay they had bad
circulation bad hearts and and um they
gave them just two cups of hot cocoa to
have a day for 30 days at Baseline they
measure their stem cells in the
bloodstream so we can actually withdraw
a blood like go to a doctor's office and
we can count the stem cells um in your
bloodstream under a microscope okay so
we know one two 3 four five we know
exactly what you started out with
Baseline everyone with heart disease
starts out with fewer uh stem cells
that's probably why you in part while
you have the heart disease you're not
repairing Yourself fast enough 30 days
of having two cups a day of hot cocoa
with high flavanols like dark chocolate
it doubled the number of stem cells in
your bloodstream and when you actually
measure the blood flow using a blood
pressure cuff and an ultrasound it
doubled the Improvement it basically um
uh improved your blood flow as well so
again powerful stuff and and nailed
right down to the stem cells barley can
also do it and there's also even a
substance in a fruit peel called ursolic
acid um ursolic acid uh is is found in
the peel of um apples and peaches and um
cranberries um and it's really hard to
eat or an acot really hard to eat a lot
of fruit skin like doesn't sound that
appetizing but if you get dried fruit I
don't know if I would regularly eat six
whole apricots but I could easily eat
six dried apricots a day okay so lots of
easy ways of actually getting fruit peel
or solic acid that also helps to
regenerate your organs is it not true
that some of the most polyphenol Rich uh
Foods in the supermarket are we know
that they're of course produced but that
they're bitter they tend to be bitter uh
or sour um you know herbs spices uh dark
chocolate coffee tea wine you know
really sort of um because these
compounds correct me if I'm wrong
they're generated as plant defense
compounds which are not toxic to us in
the doses that they appear in our uh in
our diets but their tastes generally are
meant to ward off smaller
organisms yeah like the plants Mother
Nature put these bioactive chemicals
okay which is what all these things are
carotenoids and polyphenols um they they
they mother nature kind of um put them
into the plant to protect the plant the
plant protects itself and it's a little
bitter a little sour or a little you
know floral or whatever it is um because
insects don't like that that scent right
um and and so um when and so it's
actually like natural insecticide um and
so when humans started to eat
plant-based Foods those natural plant
defenses suddenly had a new job
description they had to interact with
our human cells and I think that's where
over Evolution over tens of thousands of
years we intuitively started to figure
out which foods are actually better for
us and so we are not the only generation
that has um talked about how good
plant-based foods are I mean this goes
back you know probably back to the troit
you know they they understood um how how
important it was to eat you know um
fiber rich plant-based Foods um I think
we are rediscovering at a much deeper
level and understanding with science why
it's so important so do people who
advocate for the carnivore diet just
make you cringe like what what's what's
your take on that now you know what
listen I I have a I take the Long View
towards things um first of all I regard
food as something that's very intimate
it's one of the most intimate parts of
our Lives why because when we when you
think about food everyone has some
association with the smells and the
tastes of what they in the house you
grew up in what your mom cooked right uh
your relatives your your holidays um and
it tells us something about our
communities and our culture and you know
in this country we all came from
someplace and so there's everybody has
their own you know unique um influences
and I think that's wonderful because in
every culture um that you can get food
in there are elements there are
ingredients that are actually been shown
to be plant-based and healthy sometimes
it's Seafood based and not just fish but
even shellfish you know you can pick
your way through more than 200 different
ingredients that are um good for you um
look most people uh before uh the the
middle of the last century before the
middle of 20th century were not eating a
lot of meat they didn't have the money
the meat wasn't scaled up to the factory
farming um you know it wasn't that easy
to get Access Transportation wasn't that
great and so people were naturally uh
had more abundance of plant-based foods
and seafood if you live near the shore
and it was much harder to get meat and
if you go to other countries like
certain places in Asia or certain places
in Latin America and many places in
Europe you know the the natural agrarian
Tendencies of communities is it's easier
to get grow and easier to get plants um
and and I think what happened is that
we've lost this connection with our our
planet frankly and and so you know oh
you just wheel your thing into the meat
section of the grocery store you can
start you know like just putting car
packages shrink wrapped plastic packages
into your into your grocery and then
freeze it that's not how we used to live
and so I think what we're just kind of
getting back to Common Sense is you know
like okay you know like some people
think meat tastes really good some
people really crave it but honestly the
body of evidence science evidence but
also kind of the tradition of
humanity we usually ate mostly
plant-based foods and for people along
the shore adding a lot of seafood it's
all better for you um let's get Back to
Basics and I think that's what we need
to do is strip ourselves down a little
bit away from the industrialization and
and and think about our own bodies yeah
I love that I definitely I love plants
and I love not plants I love both so uh
so I'm I'm I'm definitely right there
with you um you mentioned the microbiome
briefly uh which we haven't really
talked about in quite some time on the
podcast do you want to uh for listeners
that are maybe unfamiliar with the
concept of the microbiome the gut
microbiome specifically go into that a
little bit and then uh I guess yeah
let's talk about how to nurture nurture
that aspect of our health yeah such an
important topic because our microbiome
our gut bacteria which I'll explain in
in a second really um helps to influence
lowers influence in our body helps to
boost our healthy protective immune
system and and also powerfully
influences our metabolism how well we
use glucose in our body and our insulin
sensitivity and also um amazingly
triggers signals through one of the big
nerves in our body the vus nerve into
our brain and influences
neurotransmitters which actually
influences our mood so here's the
microbiome microbiome is our gut
bacteria when I went to medical school
many years ago we were frankly taught
that um bacteria are bad kill bacteria
must kill bacteria right and that's
where everybody learns how to bust out
their prescription bad and write
antibiotics well you know it turns out
that um our gut has most of the bacteria
in our body and most of our gut bacteria
is healthy bacteria good bacteria in
fact we've got about 40 trillion cells
human cells in our body you know the
cells that make up our heart and our
brain and our lungs and our face and
everything else we've got 30 trillion
bacteria okay so almost a one to one
we're about half bacteria and half human
there's even a term Max for this for an
organism that's composed of multiple
organisms an ecosystem that's composed
of multiple um organisms it's called a
holot h o l o b i o n t doesn't sound as
cool as being a cyborg which is part
machine and part human but part bacteria
and part other organism part human we're
Hol we're not even fully human anymore
right so if our gut bacteria protect us
okay and there's lots of different kinds
um recently um there's been some
discoveries that there are tens of
thousands of new viruses discovered in
our gut that are not dangerous viruses
like the one that causes covid you know
or HIV but healthy viruses that actually
keep bad bacteria from overgrowing so
you know we don't even want to get rid
of all the viruses we coexist with all
these these really important organisms
in our body and we've got to um and what
do these by the way in in health what do
they do when we feed our gut bacteria
when we feed ourselves um our human
cells absorb the nutrients the vitamins
the minerals all the things that we need
and then again when I was in medical
school we were taught you know like
fibrous Foods our body doesn't absorb
them it just passes it down to the colon
and because they kind of irritate the
colon it keeps you moving regularly you
go regularly so to speak the old prune
juice uh thing it turns out that's not
quite true after we get fed first okay
that leftover stuff that our human cells
don't absorb goes to feed the bacteria
and so every meal we have we're feeding
our human selves and our bacterial
selves and again very important when we
feed our bacteria good things they
Thrive and when they Thrive what do they
do they actually produce metabolites
their own metab olites they're called
short chain fatty acids or scaas you
know there's a lot of signs to this but
the most important thing is that when we
feed our gut bacteria well they have
their own metabolism and what they kick
out as part of their metabolism are
these little fatty acids that are
healthy what do the healthy fatty acids
do they're released from the gut they go
into our bloodstream they lower body
inflammation they help our our own
muscles and cells use glucose more
effectively they effectively help to
prevent diabetes um they um maintain our
blood pressure uh and uh again oh they
speed up wound healing they even keep
our hair and our skin um in good healthy
shape uh and they can stimulate
neurotransmitters like Gaba serotonin
oxytocin oxytocin by the way is a social
hormone when you've been isolated in
quarantine and finally get to see your
friends and family again you know like
you just have this Rush that Rush is
your brain producing oxytocin it's the
same hormone by the way when you get a
good kiss your brain releases oxy toin
when you see somebody you love same
thing the brain also has this massive
surge of oxytocin during orgasm okay
that's how important this is our gut
bacteria helps to control that so when
we do good by our gut bacteria they good
do good by us and they help us relieve
our stress as well so disbiosis which is
a problem with our gut bacteria UND does
all those things raises inflammation
which is the opposite lowers our
protective immunity which is what we
want mucks around and screws up our
metabolism so our glucose goes up you
know heading towards that diabetic State
um uh our our healing our ability to
heal wounds goes down our skin doesn't
look good our hair doesn't look good and
our brain neurotransmitters aren't
aren't functioning and that's why
disbiosis problems with the microbiome
um that can be easily fixed with food
okay are are are associated with
depression schizophrenia and even autism
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