HARSH TRUTH About Wealth, Power & Happiness: Life Lessons Everybody Learns Too Late | Tai Lopez
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the biggest mistake you could make is to
allow people to convince you that power
is a dirty word if you want to become a
strong and capable person worthy of
respect you should pursue it
aggressively but before you do you need
to develop an understanding of what true
power actually is is it the ability to
get laid and get rich or is it something
far more profound find out right now as
my guest Tai Lopez and I map out the
true nature of power wealth and
seduction
as somebody who has seen the good and
the bad of money and power up close what
is it exactly that you think people get
wrong and why does it matter so much to
learn and get it right let's take them
one at a time
wealth yeah I've been poor and I've been
rich and I've been in
between wealth is better probably but
More Money More Problems too I always
tell people think about life as like a
curve and you call the kind of the
efficient Frontier when I had no money I
was sleeping on a couch in a mobile home
I remember seeing $47 in my account and
going and had very little
happiness then I built my first funnel
and I was one of the first people to use
Google AdWords it was 2 months old and I
went within 9 months I was making
basically 8,000 a month on autopilot W
my happiness went really high then I
remember really when you really start to
make money make a million bucks a week
or whatever it is I lived in Beverly
Hills the first month I was there it was
a big house 17,000 sare ft so you needed
a a fleet of maids and I used an agency
a maid came worked one day month later
get a lawsuit she said she slipped on a
banana peel wanted money wealth that's
the banana peel effect of wealth in the
US all of a sudden you become a Target
so what happened on that curve my
happiness went up all a sudden I started
make you can make too much money then
all of a sudden your happiness plateaus
then you're like Mark Zuckerberg who
last year spent 32 million on private
security Jesus that means you have
credible threats against your children
kidnapping you're spending 2 and a half
million a month on security his
happiness has now gone over the cliff
and he's you can actually be so wealthy
you're back to where you were when you
were poor Rockefeller there's a book
called Titan he's the richest man in
modern times 600 billion net worth in
the book you can read in about the 1890s
he reached the Pinnacle of his success
but he was attacked by the US government
there was a news reporter this woman
that was the thorn in his flesh always
saying he was a scam and blah blah blah
and he lost all his hair in his 50s from
stress all of his hairs eyebrows
eyelashes hair and he he had a Moment of
clarity where he said all of the money I
have made has not compensated me for the
stress I've gone through meaning it's
too much
so that's my answer on wealth find the
point which for most people is going to
be you know six figures of profit maybe
seven figures when you start going to
make eight figures the banana P will
affect your somebody your best friend's
going to try to steal your money the tax
guys come and show up and go well that
did you was that a real business expense
so try to find the optimal point on the
efficient Frontier now you asked about
power my main Mentor in the last 10
years has been Dr David bus he's maybe
the most respected living evolutionary
psychologist and I have a fe I like to
always have one male mentor and one
female and Dr Helen fiser who's also one
of the preeminent scientists I came to
them one day and I said you know there's
four M of motivation for everybody I
said what do you think of my theory Dr
bus he said I think it's a decent theory
he always has his own improvements but
the first m is material things the
second m is mating the third m is
movement SL Freedom the fourth m is
Mastery SL status what we get wrong
about ourselves and others when it comes
to power or
wealth is not understanding that almost
every wealthy person that I quiz into
their unconscious mind x-ray into the
mind they're not really driven by
material things there's a lot of people
who seek money because they like the
fourth M Mastery status or power so when
it comes to men men are much more driven
by power I'm already seeing the results
first time I launched this quiz 6,000
people took it the first day in about
190 countries so I'm getting good data
and I'm finding a pattern I ask at the
end is your sex male or female I don't
get into genders sex okay I notice a
consistent Trend men care about Mastery
status power women do occasionally but
rarely um and that makes sense our
ancestors the men you know n maybe the
second smartest person I've ever read
you know n said the will to power this
is the force that drives Earth Donald
Trump Joe Biden they are there because
they had the will to power they were
like I want Power um the lobbyists the
pharmaceutical companies we think they
just want wealth but there's men sitting
there that want power more than
everything very few men if you give them
a choice and say do you really love
money like I'm going to give you
material things you get all the jewelry
you want okay you get all the jewelry
you get all the luxury designer clothing
but you have no power status very few
men will take that but if I say to you
look bro no jewelry no
roxes but you walk in a room and men
fear you want to be you men 80% of a
time take that so power is a very sex
specific thing
women uh um or at least the female sex
don't seem as driven by that but but to
be clear I find about 20% of women are
also driven by status now if you hold
your hand up I've never seen your hand
can I see are you right or left okay so
this is digit index ratio pretty good
science some scientists disagree with it
but there's about 40
studies you have a lot of testosterone
you're a very driven ambitious person
this you're very similar to me this is
higher this is prenatal
testosterone Androgen kind of recept
when you're in the
womb you get like this dosage which sets
the course of your life you are probably
more driven when you see a hand like
this and you and also you can do other
testing to to find this out driven a
little bit like n the will to power the
will to be known the will to be
respected you have a podcast you're
building a personal brand by the way
there's nothing wrong about it sometimes
people try to go no that's not me I'm
not
materialistic I'm more like Einstein I
don't believe that much in free will you
know if you read the the Walter Isaacs
in book on Einstein pretty smart guy
he's like that a free will doesn't exist
now that's if you're a Quantum physicist
you'll probably disagree and say that
Free Will does exist if you love power
some of it's predestined you can see it
in the womb and so I think men have to
come to grips with their Will To Power
because the will to power also can drive
you can be your demon you know it can be
your angel sitting here or it can be
your demon wealth and power are like a
pitbull and when they're on your side
they're wonderful guardians but if they
ever turn against you they'll rip you to
shreds that is very succinct so the
thing that I I agree with all of that
and the thing that I would add is once I
came to understand that the true nature
of money is to be a facilitator in and
of itself it doesn't do anything I mean
if you really think about it and this
the analogy I'm about to make made a lot
more sense before uh crypto but what I
used to tell people is money cash only
has potential heat energy in and of
itself you can burn it it will release
heat that's really all it has except for
the fact that we all say that thing is
valuable and therefore as long as we
believe in it then it will carry um some
further potential in it but the
potential that it has I think people
always think it's going to make them
feel about themselves the way they feel
about other people that have money so
they look at that person and they admire
them they want to be them they're driven
by Envy I've heard you say that I think
that's pretty accurate and they think oh
all this envy that I have for that
person if I get the money I will feel
complete powerful amazing but the
reality is Money Can't Touch how you
feel about yourself yeah and so
ultimately I think the thing that people
strive for is to feel a certain way
about themselves which is why if you say
to somebody you can be feared and
admired I think there's something about
that that and there is an element of I
think part of that particular question
the thing that turns them on is oh
they're going to fear me yeah because
people instinctively know that they will
then be able to wield their power yeah
because if I were going to Define power
I would say it's the ability to manifest
your will and I don't mean manifest in
like a woo woo sense I mean manifest as
in you close your eyes you imagine the
world you want to exist you open your
eyes and you actually go make that world
come true and so the person
who that I mean maybe Putin is even more
so just because he controls the country
but when I look at somebody like Elon
Musk and he can seemingly kick off
billion dooll companies uh at will I
mean it's
bananas and that is somebody who
imagines going to Mars and builds the
thing necessary to get him there
including the legal battles and things
that he's going to have to go through uh
to make it all come true the just
brutality that is something that
difficult that expensive that high risk
and so all right you've got wealth which
is really it's just a facilitator it's
it's not going to touch who you are but
everybody thinks it's going to change
how they feel about themselves then you
have power which is really about the
ability to make things happen in the
world right and on that one I think
people tangle up because everybody not
everybody it's become come so
commonplace to be disgusted by somebody
like me who says I'm here seeking power
right I come seeking power I am trying
to get as powerful as I can now if you
think that means I'm trying to hold
dominion over other people and extract
from them so that I can myself have I
get why you would think that's gross but
if you understand power the way that I
understand it which is you power
agnostic I could use it to manifest a
will that is horrible Hitler enters
stage right right or I could try to make
the world a much better place I can
bring things to the world that are
wonderful Gandhi Mother Teresa right
they had a Will To Power that was
extraordinarily strong it just manifest
in a way that we can all get behind
versus somebody who's doing horrible
things but if people are able to tease
the sort of emotion that they have
around what they think money is without
ever really thinking about it or what
they think power is without ever really
thinking about it from the reality of
these evolutionarily granted
tools like if they can tease that apart
then they can say okay I'm going to
bring these things on I'm not going to
pursue wealth for the sake of having
money I I there are things in my life I
need to facilitate and money is the
great facilitator therefore cool I'm
going to need some amount of money and
then hey I have a vision for a better
world and I want to have impact and so I
need to get good at manifesting my will
but I don't think people understand that
you need to read the denial of death a
famous book on this subject I would just
say I agree but remember the Pitbull
analogy power wealth absolute power
corrupts absolutely and so the denial of
death is an interesting book on the
subject of when we what happens when we
seek power so you recommend I read that
as a warning uh not a warning but a a
deep dive into the repercussions one of
my I think my mentor Joel Salon used to
say the worst thing in life Tai is to
grow old and realize you got good at the
wrong thing so I'm a big fan of what's
the go deep and what's the unconscious
motivators that everything that we think
we perceive we want power and we want
money is the conscious mind but like
Freud said by the way much of what you
said was Freudian and nian you know but
the mind is like a Iceberg 10% above
water 90% sitting below so I would say
you have prob the way I would see you if
I might be so bold please in the
unconscious mind is you have a genetic
predisposition towards Mastery and
Status your mind your conscious mind you
brought this up we justify to ourself
this is kind of the concept you know the
kind of outdated forian concept of the
ego the Su you know the had the ego and
you kind of have this super ego which is
like so Collective Society but the
simpler way to think about it is our
genes make us want something
unconsciously and then our mind
justifies it everybody just momar karfi
you know Kim Yung Kim Jong Un he does
not see himself as a bad man he sees
Adolf Hitler if you there's a very
famous story about Adolf Hitler he kept
a picture of a guy behind him and this
was an English soldier in World War I
there was a battle I think it's called
Yi breze is how you pronounce it in
Belgium
a young Adolf Hitler unknown to the
world s foot soldier comes out of a tent
or a little Hut no gun he comes out with
no
gun an English Soldier has a
rifle and Adolf Hitler young Adolf
Hitler says Don't Shoot Me I'm unarmed
and the man said for a split second I
thought I'm going to kill him anyway
he's the enemy but he said I didn't like
the morality of killing an unarmed man I
let him go that was a Hitler that man
felt guilty on that that's 19 17 16 17
about
1939 okay guess what happens that man
feels guilty every day Adolf Hitler
keeps that man's picture calls him on
his birthday annually no joke thanks the
man and Hitler perceived that in the
conscious mind is proof that God was on
his side he had a vision for changing
his people was the time when people were
more nationalistic all countries were
nationalistic for the most part so Adolf
Hitler had this he used his he had a
genetic predisposition he had a horrible
family upbringing he had a dad who was
abused him physically high levels of
narcissism if you read there's a new
book about the family of Adolf Hitler I
just read it about two months ago you
know his dad if you know how to read
people his dad had NPD narcissistic
personality disorder we now know under
fmri machines you're missing gry matter
in your brain so you don't even know
you're a narcissist his dad's a hyper
narcissist has all the attributes of it
um Adolf Hitler we know now narcissism
is like 78 hered
heritability it's insane so we think so
I told you I don't believe in Free Will
Adolf Hitler is born this man who is the
product of a narcissist he then goes
through Wars put on by big governments
which caused PTSD for people he comes
out of this already with a genetic
predisposition to be a little bit wacky
on top of that he sits through World War
I probably has literal artillery
reverberations it like causes Mental
Illness but he never saw himself that
way he saw himself as a god Warrior and
he had proof If he was on the show Adolf
Hill would say what do you mean I could
have been shot the English man the hand
of God came down and said I have a
special purpose for this man so you have
to we always have to I have to be
careful that I'm not justifying my
proclivities my genetic
predisposition and
saying by golly this is the right way
now I'm not I'm not saying your way is
wrong I'm just saying I try to think 360
about myself Adolf Hitler was wrong he
was a madman and he um his will to power
uh was a complete lose lose he lost his
life Germany lost lost my grandma's from
Germany my grandma met Adolf Hitler in
1936 out of park her sister I mean her
best friend Molina meshman who wrote a
bet New York Times bestselling book you
can read um and is dedicated to my
grandma in the forward asking my grandma
for forgiveness cuz Mita meshman turned
my Grandma's family in and the SS kicked
down the door my grandma always told me
she remembers it before she came here to
California she escaped um my grandma
knew it was a mad man in 1936 my
grandma's read people he came in a park
Malita meshman that were both about this
was in 1936 this is when Time Magazine
the mass media was stupid back then they
made you know Adolf Hill was the man of
the year on the cover of Time Magazine I
think it was 1936 so my grandma's born
in 18 so she's 18 years old Molina
meshman says
Maryann there's an amazing man you need
to meet he's giving a small talk in our
local park my grandma goes there she
says a car pulls up there's 50 people
100 people there there's no top on the
car you know it's convertible Mercedes a
lot of billionaires made in the uh in
the Nazi regime and War and he starts
yelling my grandma's like I hated the
guy right away I don't my grandma didn't
like people who
yelled will the power
jeans we think we have free will did
Adolf Hitler have free will Einstein
said no now I when I say this on social
media every Tom Dick and Harry writes Ty
you don't know what you're talking about
I'm like oh yeah I'm supposed to believe
you over Einstein I'm like Believe It or
Not Einstein was a fairly smart guy um
now there's newer physicists that
disagree quantum physics kind of shows
that things can appear out of nowhere
which is closer to our conception of
morality that people make a choice but
there's still a lot of machines that we
literally have that show before you take
an action it appeared in your mind in
the unconscious 10 seconds before or
10th of a test second before meaning
what you perceive your conscious mind to
say to do your unconscious told you to
do it we're the [ __ ] of our brain so
going back to you this is a long- winded
some people say I Yap but hey I'm a
professional yapper you might be
listening every once in a while in a
yapping session there's something to
take away
um I think you are and me and everybody
in this room we suffer from something
called fds frequency dependent selection
ction nature says I like to diversify in
every country in the world women when
they give birth is about 50% male sex
50% female sex there's a value in sexual
reproduction that's why there's two
Sexes some species don't do it ferns
don't do it lesser evolved species ferns
earthworms they don't have male female
sex but it's a
diversification in a community like in
this room I know in this room not
everybody sees the world like you you're
more of a Will To Power about 25% of the
world especially men was distributed the
genes to seek Mastery status power but
nature or God is smart if there's too
many people and I'm more like you if
there's too many people like
us can you have all Leaders with no
followers you must have people who
follow you can't have only Architects
for a beautiful house like you live in
you need somebody to be able to build
the house so nature fds frequency
dependent selection says all right we
got enough of those guys let's present
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v.com impact I just did a did a with
women's CEOs it was amazing women
sometimes score as their unconscious
motivators 95% mating some men do too
there was so nature goes I want some
people who care about love and family
but I don't want them all because I need
a few gangas
cons I need a few I I need sometimes
population gets too big I need the
scourge of God that comes through and
modulates a population so they don't
overeat Nature's been doing that for a
long time a Tilla the Huns stalins Putin
I'm not justifying what they do I'm just
recording history this is the known
history of man nature says I want about
25% of people who actually like material
things there are people who get
tremendous
pleasure from holding a stack of cash
it's not me and you do you keep a lot of
cash in your wallet nope yeah I have a
cousin he is of that fds nature said I'm
going to give you the jeans he likes
physical things you know who those
people become those people become
sometimes are great artists because
artists is holding a thing like a
sculptor they like the thing
Michelangelo was probably a thing driven
person he says I saw in the sculpture he
said I saw in the Rock the treasure he
could see that's a material driven
person me and you I I don't care like if
if I didn't wasn't on camera I I'm I
don't know what I'd be wearing right now
remember wearing a tank top I'm not when
I did my here in my garage video people
didn't believe me when I said here in my
garage but here's my new Lambo but you
know what I like more the material
things knowledge because I am a movement
Freedom person so you it'd be
interesting I haven't quizzed you but
you may be let me ask you this you got a
choice I wire you a billion dollars okay
you're already rich but let's say I wre
you a 100 Bill okay
cash no after tax but you must be
celibate No Love No romance for the next
years and and your wife you got a great
wife I was just talking to her you guys
got to live apart for 10 years you're
just a solo
man or you have a massive love and you
got a million bucks is all you'll ever
have in your bank account which one are
you taking million bucks very easy
okay next so that's mating h higher than
material okay
next you can have the
love this million bucks in your bank
account at all times not extraordinary
wealth but
wealth no Freedom you will have to go no
further than one mile from this house
people can come to you no freedom and
you must work on a 9 to-5 schedule
normal 9 to 5 Monday even if you work
for yourself Monday to Friday okay
so you get the love no Freedom or you
get the freedom but your wife got to be
aart no sex for 10 years which one you
take I like this I would really need to
understand the I mean the the reality is
I would trade nothing for my wife so if
we had to be apart for 10 years
basically you could do anything but Rob
me of my health and I'm always going to
choose my wife but that's my wife versus
if I were single I would be say the
first month you met her uh first month I
met her I was not in love yet so but no
women no sex 10 years that would are you
taking the
freedom that would be that would be what
I would advise myself unless I'm no no
but I care about the unconscious where
are you going um what would I have done
back
then even now fast forward pretend you
had been single all these years you just
met your wife you're getting along three
months but you going have to break it
off and you have ultimate Freedom you do
what you want no schedule you travel you
got a little bit of money not much but
life has nothing better to offer for you
than love so I'll take love okay love
last you keep the love but you're an
unknown Soul you wield no power you need
will no respect you have no real impact
on the world you might have it on your
mom dad you know friends you're
anonymous but you got love or you have
the Ultimate Will To Power you are both
loved and feared as Conan the Barbarian
would say or King is
gone the thoughts in your mind become
real and you change the world but you
are celibate for the next 10 years
assuming you had just met your wife now
which one yeah I mean assuming that I
had just met my wife I would and didn't
know I you have to kill my now
understanding that life has nothing
better to offer you than love so now
from this perspective for sure the love
okay but at the time in no no way shape
or form would I've chosen anything other
than being able to build and create the
things I wanted to build and create for
sure that's what I thought because
notice the way you speak of the world
and the conscious you just gave me a
long talk before I gave my long talk
about how you can change the world with
power and money gives you more Mastery
you don't want the material things you
just what we just talked about just
unfolded I would say you're primarily
environmentally you've now become mating
driven you were born Mastery and status
and you taught yourself to be wiser
okay very few people do that you're more
advanced than the average person but
these are very strong impulses and this
one's so strong that if I talk to your
wife she's not here one day we'll have
to have a round table with her there you
probably naturally continually pull this
way there's probably a tension in your
marriage that sometimes she has to check
and say no love is more important you're
you're trying to influence too much the
world she wouldn't say it in in that
term but you're 100% correct so I in my
marriage because we agree that our
marriage is our highest priority yes
because there's nothing I value more
than what my relationship has given me
not success not adoration literally all
of that pales in comparison to truly
being seen and loved and building
something together and sharing a life
just really is if you're wired like me
it is the peak of what life has to offer
you and it's extraordinary and I could
never have imagined something so
wonderful however that doesn't stop me
from having this incredible drive to
want to have impact I mean obviously
it's called impact theory for a reason
so that really really matters to me and
being able to balance the two and this
is I think the core of my thesis because
all I'm saying is I want people to
understand what money and power actually
are right because once you know that
that thing in your hand is a sword and
not a hammer yeah but that a hammer
exists then when you need a hammer go
get a hammer when you need a sword go
get the sword and I think people are
really delusional about what they are
because from the outside the only way to
map the territory is with your emotion
about how you feel about people that
have that thing and so it gives myself
very much included a warped sense of
what it is so for the first decade of my
entrepreneurial career I was just
chasing money MH and it made me
profoundly unhappy now had I not gone
down that road of chasing money getting
money and still being unhappy then I
never would have realized oh wait this
isn't the game so to your point of you
traed Mastery from day one that's what I
would have told you you I would have
told you to be I would have told you to
be like a Tony Robbins I would have told
you to be a leader of men that's fine
look man it's here's what's interesting
now the ultimate scam in this world mhm
is I literally am one of the only people
talking about this all the [ __ ] a
million therapist what the [ __ ] are
therapists and psychologist doing
sometimes people when I do a talk like
this they go to are you a do you're SP
speaking on health are you a doctor are
you you're speaking on psychology are
you a psychologist are you you know
you're speaking on business do you have
a Harvard MBA I
go have you
noticed doctors have failed us nobody's
healthy in America almost nobody psych
everybody's unhappy psychologists have
failed us have you noticed that most
people are poor economists and business
teachers have failed it so I've gone on
my own and it's a tragedy that I have to
do this but I do this with opportunity I
make my mess my message you and I are
the victim of a time in history The Rise
there's three Trends I just wrote a new
book The Three Trends Trend number one
is the rise and fall of governments it's
still it still corrupts us now we went
through government schools you know we
went did you go to college yeah okay I
dropped out you know that they charge
you 80 to 200,000 of debt to go to
college and university and they never
take you they never have you take a quiz
or do anything [ __ ] career counseling
[ __ ] they don't do [ __ ] they don't
help you know the unconscious mind it
would have been better for you to seek
Mastery first and the good news is
you've come full circle like a boomerang
you're back to it I could have predicted
that 10 years ago no matter what you'll
come back to the will to power what
would your mom and dad
like uh you'd probably have to ask me
question to get an answer my mom is sure
they're right more neither of them no to
their
detriment who overthought things my
mom how would you describe your dad um
very um he doesn't know how to manifest
his will he feels like you make the best
out of life he's he had a thing on his
desk that I remember to this day in his
office that said the beatings will
continue until the morale improves and I
remember when I first saw it I found
that absolutely hysterical and then as
I've gotten older I realized oh my God
my dad believed himself to be a cog in
the machine and his only Outlet was a
serbic humor and but are you sure your
dad didn't have a will to power but at
the time in history men were emasculated
and there wasn't social media there
wasn't the ability to start your own
business are you sure your dad didn't
have the will to power I think everybody
has the will to power to there's many
people that don't so you don't see it as
a spectrum you see it as a binary oh no
no for sure there's a spectrum but at
some point on a 1 to 100 scale my dad's
low for sure very low I'd like to meet
your dad yeah I'm guessing yeah I'm
guessing you take that because genetics
play a big role in your world view no no
because he was
conscious of the fact he was making
jokes there's an ancient proverb much
truth is said in g m your dad would what
we make jokes about what we s deprecate
is often our unconscious mind that we're
not powerful enough to do so many men I
saw this the second I put a Lamborghini
video
out all the virtue signer men said I
don't care about Lamborghinis who's this
douchebag those guys specifically
commenting they were the ones who wanted
the lambo but they couldn't get it so
they how do you it's called pain
avoiding delusion you see it ultim
timately sometimes people have full
psychotic breaks with reality but how do
we cope with the pain of this world we
pretend we don't want that thing but the
fact that your dad had a joke on
his desk means it was it was coming
bubbling to the top yeah so I I think
everybody has the will to power for sure
now you may I don't think they do okay
so just a second going to go ask you is
this on a spectrum yes no or is it
binary because if it's on a spectrum
then I will give you some people are
going to be way lower on the Spectrum
I'll even give you that it probably
breaks way more men are way more will to
power than women all of that makes sense
anecdotally with what I see out in the
world but uh and look I have not sat
down and like broken down my dad but
experientially I will say that my dad is
so content in his life now outside of um
he's no longer working he's retired and
he loves his life now his life is the
classic puttering around the house what
did he do uh he was a purchasing man
manager so about your grandparents uh
now my grandfather on his side he died
when my dad was 6 months old so I never
met him but from just what he did in
life was very high on the will to power
which is what uh he was an inventor and
he um had some patents and ended up
getting in a scandalous relationship
with my grandmother who was 44 years
younger than him at a time where that
was like clutch the Pearl dad was
DiCaprio
I oh yeah yeah yeah my grandfather yeah
sorry your grandfather dicapri bill you
yes exactly so um he ended up having to
sell all his patents and moved to a
small town which is why by the time I
got to my dad there was no money and he
grew up without a
daden terms uh yes and I don't know him
so I literally have no idea people go
deep into your jeans you're 25% people
parents are 50% related to you
grandparents are 25 you tell people that
because you want them to understand them
it's interesting so you and I I agree
that's super powerful you need to
understand yourself amazing but I am
fatalistic when it comes to genes so I'm
just like look you're you are 50% of you
roughly is hardwired you're not going to
be able to change it so understanding it
very useful but the 50% of you that's
malleable is where I focus so if you and
I were being interviewed separately you
would tell a tale of know your genetics
understand how this all plays out don't
fight in fact one of the quotes that I
pulled from you
was it's something like uh here it is
biology is God and Society is man-made
and you were basically saying don't
fight the FED don't fight biology like
you are a slave to your genes now that
gives me hives I agree with you it isn't
that I don't like it so here in fact
everybody says that uh you if you are
not religious you do have a God I have a
God and that God is Effectiveness I am
OB obsessed with Effectiveness now all
of that for me is predicated on I
believe that your goal ought to be
honorable so that you don't end up with
a Hitler who's very effective at killing
people that is not interesting to me I
don't celebrate that but if you're
trying to build something honorable now
I'm like hey [ __ ] if you are not
paying attention to what works and what
does not work you are making a huge
mistake so I get it there's some amount
of me that is absolutely hardwired and
there's nothing I'm going to be able to
do to stop it cool I'm not going to
fight that because I think you're right
but I am going to spend an inordinate
amount of time focused on the part of me
that can change and now if you
understand you are both things you can't
change and so you better understand them
and be able to contend with them and do
not become their slave this is why I
tell people to become you must get
emotional control because evolution is
[ __ ] with you but over here there are
things that you can change and just all
of my thinking everything that I do is
optimized for the part I can change so I
don't disagree with anything that you're
saying I just I what I'm trying to get
people to focus on is please don't think
you're a blank slate which is I think a
big part of where you're coming from the
the just Madness that I'm watching
unfold with what's happening in society
when we're no longer being chased by a
lion and so people can indulge any
intellectual fantasy that's totally
detached from what's effective you know
who predicted this by the way crazy uh
nii for sure marks so I'm not a
communist in fact this weekend I'm going
on a debate where I'm the capitalist
predict he basically predicted if you
create too much wealth and ease people
go cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs that was one
of his things against capitalism he's
like communist we're all going to stay
Farmers now communism failed in his
conception but he was right about that
thing I give a man Credit Now when you
it's maso's hierarchy of needs at the
bottom when we're all kind of farmers
like the Amish they have 500% less
depression than modern society because
everybody's like I got to Milk The Cow
and you just stay you don't try to think
you're more important but as we move up
M's hierarchy of need the top is
individual expression so I saw I saw an
art Exposition in New York City where
somebody was there was a group watching
them and the art was he was using his
body as a cheese
grater and somebody was lifting him up
and down and he was grating cheese and
people were like wow this is magnificent
art and I was thinking km marks was
right Mar this guys in saying he needs a
farm he need this guy needs to be
milking a cow or cutting down a tree for
firewood I agree with you on that by the
way on on
genetics it's domain specific IQ is like
mostly IQ height eye color skin color is
like 80 plus% heritable some things
aren't heritable at all if we all are in
a car crash at 100 miles hour uh there's
no inherit you can't have inherited a
gene to withstand that if you don't have
a seat Bel on so there's you always got
to think about there's things you can
change you know that there's an AA
Alcoholics Anonymous prayer I don't
remember it's the Serenity Prayer it's
like you know God give me the strength
to change the things that I can change
and the whatever Serenity to accept the
things here God grant me the serenity to
accept things canot change the courage
to change the things I can and the
wisdom the wisdom to know the difference
that's kind of a woo woo way of what we
know scientifically is there's some you
can't but but my thing about going to
your ancestors we don't have to talk
about this forever this is a we need to
do a psychology talk at one point
but the re everybody's lost in this
world I rarely find somebody who's on
the right path now a simple thing can
you to find the right path first know
thyself first piece of self-help in
modern world the Oracle of Delia you go
to Greece there was a there was a cave
and they rode on the wall the best
advice that mankind had added up to that
point and the first piece of advice was
know thyself but back then they didn't
understand what nii said the mind's an
impenetrable Fortress you only learn
about yourself through friends and
enemies that's why you know the best
advice practical advice you can have on
what career to take what enemies
compliment you on because an enemy never
gives you a false compliment so I have
people who love my brand people who die
for me literally I had somebody hack me
the other day and a random guy wrote me
on what's happened I know how he got my
number he's like I hacked the hacker and
I was like who are you he's like dude
you've saved my life you'll never know
you never have to know I am you've made
me millions of dollars [ __ ] that guy I
destroyed him so a bigger hacker
attacked some random hacker so people
love me and I have people who I I'm a
I'm a force I split people down the
middle and the people that don't like me
I still listen to their accomplice like
[ __ ] that guy's just a good marketer but
he doesn't know what he's talking about
then I become a marketer [ __ ] that guy I
don't agree with anything he said on
that podcast he's damn entertaining to
listen to then I become an Entertainer
so for go back my mom who's sitting
right
there my mom used to even your own
parents will give you compliments when
they're madest at you I'm so I'm so mad
at you she my mom says you're a bulldog
when you believe in something you won't
stop well that's my strength too when I
build a business you know if it if it's
failing I'll stick with it till I
rebuild it so know thyself listen to the
compliments of thine enemies that's one
I used to say you do this thing called I
call it ulian Destiny like geometry you
take four circles where they all
connects what you should do with life so
number one is the compliment uh of
enemies or the compliments uh the uh
compliments of your mom when she's mad
at you also count the other circle is
thine ancestors when we say no ourself
what is our self we are the DN DNA is
some scientists think the most magical
thing on earth Einstein said the most
magical thing on Earth was compound
interest other smart people and I agree
with them said the most profound thing
they haven't figured out is what is DNA
where did it come from did Alien seed
the planet we don't understand it's the
closest thing to having been Immortal so
when I say I'm Tai Lopez am I Tai Lopez
or am my mom Andrea and my dad Ernesto
and his father and so Know Thy ancestors
because in ancestors you will find the
clues to your strengths and weaknesses
and so in my ancestors what are
strengths I mean one of my my
great-grandfather was a great well I
have many great scientists in my family
Martin burkenroad my mom's dad was a is
a famous scientist he was a child
prodigy and taught at Yale before he had
an undergrad degree so
teaching now what's the weakness is
there's much mental illness in my family
my dad had MPD narcissistic personality
disorder probably a level of psychopathy
too he ended up in prison you can see
the prison from here Long Long Beach
terminal
Island um so he had a temper my dad will
kill you no problem you know everybody
has this thing about I grew up talking
back to my parents I didn't grow up with
my dad all the time but a't nobody ever
talk back to my dude come out of prison
my dad was a o gz blind in one eye like
knife wounds and all this stuff from
Harlem but that's a weakness you have to
control I have to control rage and anger
so the second Circle you draw you got
your compliments of enemies and you draw
your ancestors and make sure you at
least I like to go back to
great-grandparents great grandparents
have 12 and a half% so you have eight
grand great grandparents that's 8 and
half% they're as related to you as your
two damn parents who are 50% your
parents are just is a more concentrated
version of that okay so then the third
one is what you talk about consciously
on a Saturday night when you're not
working I talk a lot about psychology
when I'm not working it makes sense for
that I became a marketer it became sense
that I became an entrepreneur
entrepreneurship you make money when you
know people isn't it ironic that the man
consistently the richest in the last 10
years is you know if some of them Jeff
Bezos Zucker these people did a lot of
psychology courses too psychology make
you wealthy Elon mus the best applied
psychologist on this earth oh he read I
watch
him effective altruism um manipulate the
soul of mankind and hopefully like you
said for the world of power it's for
good but don't ever think he's not a
master puppet man who's now he bought
Twitter so he now has 5% of the globe
check his app and he can weave the web
he's the Spider-Man not the Batman so
you need to what do you talk about on a
Saturday night that's the third circle
and the fourth circle what youve been
doing because there's a lot of Clues on
what have you been doing what were you
doing before impact Theory Quest what
before
quest uh it was a software company none
of those things will get you where you
want to go thing before that what were
we doing at 14 film making film making
yeah yeah that Mastery status to be
known to be it is it's an expression
well so ironically yes to I didn't think
of it that way so I'll I'll explain it
how I thought of it and then you can um
help me go a layer deeper so the way
that I understood myself at that time
was I have I clearly have a much bigger
emotional reaction to uh film than other
people I'm more drawn in I have a
stronger emotional reaction um I
remember them longer they really began
to shape my sense of the world so for
instance the Matrix to me is a perfect
metaphor for The Human Condition so when
I saw that movie it actually gave me a
framework with which to think and so I
often tell people I think in movies so
there's a whole series of things where
I'm a hyper responder to that art form
but I also at 14 was a hyper responder
to poetry so I remember one day going
okay do we become a poet or do we become
a filmmaker and the reason I became the
film maker you're going to love this is
because there was no money in poetry and
I could get rich in film because this is
like the 80s early 90s when Hollywood is
still popping off when Hollywood had
status yes oh for sure you're a stat
you're you're not a money guy I don't
think you don't have jewelry you're
dressed nonchalant you're a status but
mating is there so it's like like like
you said it's like I want to be a poet
what do poet do well with all if you're
an ugly dude become a poet poets do well
with women my friend man you know some
Pablo nuda I mean you read Pablo nuda to
a woman all a word smithing I mean yeah
not all poets but many well what do you
think Drake is what do you think what do
you think I think a pop star I do not
think he's a poet now he is word play
yeah but he uses ghost writers and so
I've heard I am not a drake scholar but
um yeah that's interesting CU going back
to your earlier point he's somebody that
can control culture now people that
understand people
they understand the cultural movements
mating Mastery it's very possible um
that would have been a good that's
you're in your thing you did it you did
it life came full circle you tried to
move away from your ulian destiny and oh
I did not try everything you went after
my life because so here's the tales
funny we were just talking about this
before I started rolling people do not
know me for the thing that I consider
myself I consider myself an artist I am
obsessed with storytelling video games
film making comic books like that's that
is my life it has been my life since I
was 12 years old from the time I was 12
I knew that I was going to be a
Storyteller yes now the bad news is that
graduating in the late 90s from film
school I did not know how to break into
the industry YouTube doesn't exist
there's no cell film with a camera a no
budget film was $100,000 I'd never met
anybody with that kind of money uh so
end up teaching film meet these two very
successful guys they're like look you're
coming to the world with your handout
and if you want to be a filmmaker you're
going to have to control the resources
and so I was like okay word I need to
get rich I'll go into business business
I thought it would take 18 months it
took 15 years but it worked so all of
the like chasing money and all of that
was just so that I could do what I'm
finally doing now now if I were to
recommend to somebody a strategy this
would not be the one right go straight
what you want correct which back to my
God which is Effectiveness you needed my
ulian destiny this talk I did I needed
it too where were you 25 years ago I
needed it you know why I became what I
am when I was 19 I went to a talk one of
the first millionaires I knew was a guy
named Alan Nation he spoke in a little
town of Virginia and I came up and I had
questions what do I do and what and I
said nobody seems to have the answer I
said nobody seems to have the answer and
he said that means you have to become
that
person and so I've spent my life
becoming the person that could give me
the answers that I couldn't find from
the world at 19 I found my destiny
too you found yours that's why I said
nature laughs last
or you ever heard of the movie Of Mice
and Men yes of course famous movie yep
famous book famous book well the full
poem goes something like the best laid
plans of mice and men go
arai it's like we have our conceptions
but in the end God laughs last and says
in my frequency dependent selection I
need you to be this you will be this and
some people become it which is you you
won and some people don't I think that's
your dad but your dad won through you
your dad it would have been very
interesting you should ask your dad what
did he want to do at 14 your dad you
might be the winner your dad you know
what I bet you it is I'll tell you
something interesting that people don't
talk enough about that's crazy
mind-blowing to me we can read people in
many ways you know I my cockiest thing
about myself is I will put a million
dollars down and go head-to-head anybody
at Cold reading people I think I'm the
best person at reading people and I
don't even think the second best is 50%
is good at me and I will put money and I
will swipe money anybody want to go to
Vegas and lose their money put a million
bucks down we'll go cold read along
Street of people now that's my
narcissistic side coming out okay I have
acknowledgement of this uh but you're
allowed to be a narcissistic in one
thing and people will give you that if
you start getting too narcissistic
people get mad but um
um Yung you should listen to Yung on
YouTube YouTube is a gift to mankind
before he died somebody some interviewer
interviewed Carl Young the disciple of
Freud one of the greatest men to ever
Liv and and there's a quote I keep on my
phone this is if you ever want to write
a quote down and get a tattoo write this
quote down he wrote a textbook by the
way the concept of introvert extrovert
was invented by by Yung he invented the
worm he also invented the word psyche
that we use now or sorry Persona so
listen to this this is a mindblowing he
wrote a book called psychological
types in respect of One's Own
personality one's judgment is as a rule
extraordinarily clouded so I meet people
one of the ways I read people is I'm
like tell me what you think of yourself
and I'm like okay that's what they're
not so I've cut out 50% of the thing
your dad self-conception he's probably
opposite and but he remember what thoro
said the mass of men lead lives of quiet
desperation what's called resignation is
confirmed desperation your dad
eventually resigned
himself and he's like I he was stuck in
he was he was stuck in a matrix in time
where you it was very hard to be an
entrepreneur when Jeff bezo started in
'94 he had to borrow from his parents
about
$250,000 to put a website up that was
the rise of corporates it just there's
three Trends every man and woman needs
to know to create wealth the first Trend
in modern civilization was the rise and
fall of governments there was a time
where government carried about you there
was a time when the US in the 1800s
there was less than 1% income tax the
government wasn't out to exploit you
there was a time when there were men
like Abraham Lincoln who was no saint
but he wasn't there trying to get rich
he wasn't going to retire from the
presidency and make a million dollars
with a Netflix thing or a book special I
forgot one of the recent presidents made
aund Obama has $100 million book deal
after there was no opportunity Abraham
Lincoln died so did JFK so there was a
time when governments were there for you
they weren't overreaching there wasn't
much
taxation they weren't printing too much
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